Odd Battle Out

[The Perky Ent]

Well, i really like O_O's, and this seems like a good one. So, welcome to Odd Battle Out! The rules are as any other Odd _ Out! I give several battles, and you have the task of finding which one stands out from the crowd! When you give the correct answer, you get to give the next set! Here's an example:

Battle of Pelenor Fields
Battle of the Peak
Battle of Helms Deep
Battle of Bywater


The correct answer (althought an answer can be right, it has to be the one the person asking the question was thinking of) would be the Battle of Bywater because Gandalf was not present. Any questions? Good! Let's get started! The first set is....

Battle of Helms Deep
Battle of Pelenor Fields
Fall of Gondolin
Battle of Azanulbizar
Dagor Bragollach

Have fun!

[Fingolfin II]

Battle of Azanulbizar- the only one in which Men didn't fight?

[The Perky Ent]

Nope!

[Bombadil]

The battle of helm's deep was the only one to not have a king die in it?

Battle of pelennor fields, Theoden dies.
Fall of Gondolin King Turgon dies.
Battle of Azanulzibar, Nain dies. (Or Azog the Goblin)
and during the Dagor Bragollach, Fingolfin rode to face Morgoth in combat, and died?

[The Perky Ent]

nope! try again :D

[Mithalwen]

Is it the Dagor Bragollach because it is the only one when a strong hold of the Enemy is beseiged - in the others it is the Free peoples who are beseiged by the forces of Darkness?

[Lindolirian]

Well technically the Dwarves were laying seige to Moria in the Battle of Azanulbizar, so I'm gonna try somthing else. No Elves were at Azanulbizar and no Dwarves were at the Fall of Gondolin.

[NightKnight]

Battle of Azanulbizar was the only one where nobody fought on the same side as someone from another race:

Pelennor - Orcs and men/Men, elf and dwarf
Helm's Deep - Men, dwarf and elf
Bragollach - Men and elves/Dragons, balrogs, orcs etc.
Fall of Gondolin - Orcs, dragons, balrogs...

Azanulbizar - Dwarves vs orcs. Plain and simple! ;)

[The Perky Ent]

Mithalwen is on the right track...but wrong. And I say that the Battle of Azanulbizar isn't a seige, because it was in front of the gates. Lindolirian, you actually stumbled upon the ansser, although you didn't say it. And NightKnight, you're just wrong.

[Bombadil]

The battle of Azanulzibar was the only one where powers of good attacked forces of evil?

[The Perky Ent]

Um, no. It's about seiging. Just think about it and it will come to you!

[Bombadil]

WAIT A SECOND!

both said by perky ent:

Um, no. It's about seiging. Just think about it and it will come to you!


And I say that the Battle of Azanulbizar isn't a seige, because it was in front of the gates.

therefore the battle of Azanulzibar is the OBO because it's not a siege?

[The Perky Ent]

You're verry close, but think broader. It's got the right ingredients, but not the right name.

[NightKnight]

Dagor Bragollach - the only one where someone broke out from a siege and started the battle.

[The Perky Ent]

No. Think seige. It's not a seige, but think general. It can't be more obvious

[Bombadil]

Dagor Bragollach is the only one where the battle was started due to an army breaking a siege, rather than marching on an enemy stronghold?

-dagor bragollach is started when Morgoth breaks the long siege of the elves.
-helms deep enemy sets off towards Helm's Deep
-Pelennor, enemy marches to Minas Tirith
-Azanulzibar dwarves set off towards Moria to fight
-Gondolin, enemy marches on Gondolin

It's kind of hard to see what I'm getting at, but if it's right you'll know perk!

[The Perky Ent]

No, you already have the answer. BTW, it's the Battle of Azanulzibar! You had the answer. Just find another way to phrase it! The answer contains seiging, but it isn't a seige itself. Woops. Did I give it away. Oh well, you've basically had it all the time. Just follow the hints and you'll get it and slap yourself in the head.

[Bombadil]

hmmm...BAttle of Aznulzibar only one not to incorporate a siege?

[The Perky Ent]

...We have a winner!!!! I yield all thread powers to you!

[Mithalwen]

Foiled again1 this time by the haziness of my knowledge of dwarvish history.....

[Bombadil]

Battle of five Armies
Scouring of the Shire
Battle of Pelennor fields
Battle of helm's deep

Lots and lots of possibilities in this game! But I think mine is pretty obvious...

[NightKnight]

Helm's Deep - No hobbits?

[Fingolfin II]

Scouring of the Shire- No Gandalf?

[Bombadil]

Fingolfin got it...and i just realized that that was basically the same post that Perky made for an example at the beginning...oops :o


You're up!

[Fingolfin II]

The War of Wrath
The Battle of the Five Armies
The Battle of Pelennor Fields
The Nirnaeth Arnoediad

[The Perky Ent]

Pelenor Fields? The only one where there wasn't an elven force? (sorry Legolas! As powerful as you are, you aren't that good)

[Fingolfin II]

Nope. You're sort of close though......sort of ;).

[Bombadil]

5 armies, only one not against a dark lord (i.e. morgoth sauron)

[Mithalwen]

The Nirnaith Arnoediad? Because apart from being the only defeat for the forces of light, all the others victory was acheived because of requested reinforcements - Teh Elves of Aman at the War of Wrath following the mission of Earendil, The Five Armies (Elves of Mirkwood, Dwarves of Iron Mountains, Pelenor Fields teh Rohirrim.... although the less expected (unless you are Gandalf ) arrival of Aragorn and co may have bee decisive there ..aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrgh

[NightKnight]

Nirnaeth - the elves lost?

[Fingolfin II]

All wrong so far :p.

[Mithalwen]

wedll I think it is something to do with dragons ... but I am not sure which is the odd one out ......
War of Wrath - Earendil slays Ancalagon,
Battle of Five Armies ...Smaug's death is the catalyst
Nirnaeth - Galurung causes devastation but survives
Battle of the Pellenor Fields - the Nazgul's steed could be termed a dragon I think - monstrous winged creature without feathers.......


So Pellenor could be the odd one out if you don't class the feel beast as a dragon:ooo - no dragon

Five Armies OOO- caused by dragon not featuring a dragon

Nirnaeth OOO Dragon lives to fight another day....

[Fingolfin II]

Nope- nothing to do with Dragons.

[NightKnight]

Nirnaeth - the only one where reinforcements didn't turn the tide.

Five Armies - Beorn and eagles
Pelennor - Aragorn & co.
Wrath - Eärendil and eagles

[Fingolfin II]

Still nope ;).

[Elwe Singollo]

Perhaps it was the War of Wrath. There wasn't a king present there.

Five Armies - Thranduil
Nirnaeth - Fingon
Pelennor Fields - Aragorn (although you could count Theoden as well.)

[Fingolfin II]

Nope- think of people and their relationship towards each other.

[The Perky Ent]

War of Wrath? The only one where a king wasn't suceeded?

Five Armies - After Thorin's death, Dain Ironfoot suceeded him and became King under the Mountain
The Nirnaeth Arnoediad - Gil-Galad suceeded his father Fingon
Pelennor fields - Eomer became King of Rohan after Theoden's death

Probably not, but it's a shot

[Fingolfin II]

Still nope.

[Elwe Singollo]

Perhaps it was:

Battle of the Pelennor

Because all the others hadone or more armies of other races against the dark forces.

[Fingolfin II]

Nope- think of races and their relationships.

[NightKnight]

Men fought against men in all except Five Armies?

[Fingolfin II]

Nope. Congratulations on 1500 posts by the way.

[NightKnight]

Thanks. :)

[Fingolfin II]

Anyone else want a go? It's both hard and easy, once you get it.

[Mithalwen]

I am stymied I think... I had a vague idea about dead uncles (Thorin & Theoden ..)iuntill you specified that the relationship was between races..

[Gil-Galad]

Pelennor fields was only battle where men fought versus orcs, no elves came too help them (save legolas)...the others included elves and other races

[Fingolfin II]

Nope- think Elves and Dwarves.

[NightKnight]

Elves and dwarves didn't fight together in the War of Wrath, even if it was only Gimli and Legolas on Pelennor.

[Fingolfin II]

Nope- I can't remember the quote, but it says the dwarves of Durin's line fought on the side of the Elves.

*BIG hint*- the answer is the Battle of Five armies; now tell me why.

[NightKnight]

It says they fought together in the Last Alliance, not the War of Wrath.

[Gil-Galad]

only place the 4 races defended a place which they fueded for, showed unity in them and the end of Gundabad Orcs

[Fingolfin II]

Really? Sorry about that, but it still wasn't what I had in mind NightKnight- my bad. Anyway, Gil-Galad has gotten it.

[Gil-Galad]

oh goody...



battle of sudden flame
Fall of Gondolin
wakening of the Balrog
battle under the trees (ask me if you don't know what this is)

[Fingolfin II]

What is the battle under the trees?

Anyway, I'll say it is the battle I don't know, because there were no fire-breathing creatures (dragons) or fire-scourges (balrogs) present?

[Gil-Galad]

Battle under the trees was the Silvan "donation" to the war of the ring, Celeborn lead the lorien elves aganest Dol Guldur and during the battle he met Thranduil, who was leading the mirkwood elves, after the battle Galadriel threw down its gates and cleansed the land with her light...in the fourth age it was added to the land of LothLorien and called East Lorien, while Thranduil gained all the forest north of it...and no sorry

[NightKnight]

Wakening of the Balrog (Durin's Bane?) - No elves.

[Gil-Galad]

nope!

[Mithalwen]

Well I am going to say it is the battle trees because it led to old strongholds / territory being regained. The elves reagained their old lands in Southern Mirkwood. But the others involved the loss/ destruction of stronghoilds/territory.... Gondolin self evidently, Awakening of the Balrog meant the Dwarves had to leave Moria (and many elves fled Lorien), the fortresses of Angrod and Aegnor and Maglor's Gap were lost during the battle of Sudden Flame...

[Gil-Galad]

though they really didn't have any strongholds/territory there in the first place....nope!

you are actually rather close

[Mithalwen]

If you mean southern Mirkwood, I think that in UT it says something about Oropher having to move his people northwards from Amon Lanc ... but I don't have it on me and Oropher is one of those slightly iffy characters who complicate matters by going against what is said in the primary texts...... but I'll have another think..... but I fear that was my best shot....

[NightKnight]

Wakening of the Balrog, then.

There was a great fire under the trees in Mirkwood.
Battle of Sudden Flame - Duh.
Fall of Gondolin - There was lots of fire and devastation there...
There is no account of any fire when the Balrog awoke.

[Gil-Galad]

nope!


Hint: its what they did

[Mithalwen]

Don't feel this is different to my previous go but..... but... the battle under trees because it resulted in a place being cleansed whereas the others led to a place being degraded.....

[Gil-Galad]

nope! come on its rather easy!

[Gil-Galad]

Hint : it has to do with elves, so that rules out


battle of sudden flame
Fall of Gondolin

wakening of the Balrog
battle under the trees

[Gil-Galad]

BIG hint: instead of retreating they go forward!

[Gil-Galad]

Hint: its Battle under the Trees, now tell me why!

[The Perky Ent]

Battle under the trees because (long shot) Galadriel goes into Dol Guldur, showing that she charges into the castle/fort/stronghold. In the others, they're going away from it. As I said, a long shot!

[Gil-Galad]

Perfect Aim! Battle under the Trees was the only ones where Elves, or any other free races, actually advance aganest teh evil, rather then retreat or be attacked! good job!

[The Perky Ent]

Rightio! Here's the next batch:

War of Wrath
Battle of Bywater
Battle of Azanulbizar
Pelenor Fields
Fall of Gondolin
Battle of Five Armies


Quite a selection! Have fun!

[Gil-Galad]

Pelenor fields was only place where another army joined in to help the Gondorians?

[The Perky Ent]

No, and because there's so many options, I'll give a little hint with each wrong answer. It has nothing to do with Gondorians. I don't know if that helps, but it's a start :D

[Gil-Galad]

War of the Wrath didn't involve men?

[The Perky Ent]

No. It has nothing to do with the involvement of races

[Fingolfin II]

The Battle of Bywater involved someone turning against his own side (Grima killing Saruman)?

And Perky, do you mean the Battle of Five Armies? :)

[The Perky Ent]

So I did. And as for your question, nope. nothing to do with changing sides.

[Morsul the Dark]

the battle of five armies was the only one that bilbo was present?

[The Perky Ent]

No, and it has nothing to do with the present-ness of people.

[Morsul the Dark]

fall of gondol;in is the only one where a country fell?

[The Perky Ent]

It has nothing to do with a country, so no.

[Morsul the Dark]

Battle of Azanulbizar its the odd battle out because its the last answer! ;)

[The Perky Ent]

Um...no.

[Morsul the Dark]

:eek: aw come on....Well then I know not

[The Perky Ent]

Then you keep guessing until you get close. That's how this game works!

[Morsul the Dark]

i know i am just disheartened is all...

It has nothing to do with a country, so no.
No. It has nothing to do with the involvement of races
No, and it has nothing to do with the present-ness of people.
It has nothing to do with Gondorians
And as for your question, nope. nothing to do with changing sides.

oh wait...The battle of bywater is the only one to come after the desatruction of the ring?

[The Perky Ent]

Right battle, wrong reaons. It doesn't have to do with when.

[High King Fingolfin]

The only battle where hobbits other than Merry, Pippin, Sam, Frodo, or Bilbo were present?

It's a long shot.

[Gil-Galad]

Battle of Bywater was the smallest battle then of the rest!?

[ninlaith]

could it be

The Battle of Bywater was when the first Hobbit was slain in the Shire?

[The Perky Ent]

Not the first. lol, just kidding. I just had to say that. Anyways, right battle, wrong reason.

[Morsul the Dark]

only battle in the shire?

[The Perky Ent]

no, but your starting to get on the right track.

[Morsul the Dark]

ok geography is clser so...only battle west of brandywine?

[The Perky Ent]

it is geography, but not location, so no.

[Morsul the Dark]

it was fought across and near a river

[The Perky Ent]

You're finally on the right path of thinking, but not there yet.

[Morsul the Dark]

a bridge? they had to retake the bridge in order to win the battle...i will get this right eventually

[The Perky Ent]

no

[Morsul the Dark]

Gosh darn it It isthe only battle in which hobbits drowned...i know it has something to do with water

[The Perky Ent]

no. It doesn't have to do with water. It has to do with geography. Look at the Geography of all the places, and then bywater

[Morsul the Dark]

there are no mountains?

[The Perky Ent]

Yes! The battle of Bywater was the only place not in the presence of a mountain! Your turn! Good job!

[Morsul the Dark]

finally :rolleyes:

well I know very few battles

Lets see

Siege of Minas Tirith
Weathertop
Balin's Tomb
Attack on the black gate
Bridge of Khazad-dum

very simple

[Kath]

Um . . . the battle of Weathertop is the only one that involved the Nazgul?

[Tuor of Gondolin]

Weathertop the only one with no orcs involved?

[Gil-Galad]

Which attack on Weathertop are you referring to? well weathertop was hte only one to be attacked twice... by the same "person" too

[The Perky Ent]

The "battle" at the Bridge of Khazad-Dum was the only one where a Balrog was present?

[Evisse the Blue]

At Weathertop nobody died?

[Morsul the Dark]

the weathertop im talkinng about is when frodo is stabbed

not nazgul not orcs not balrog

that is however the right way of thinking(which by the way I accidently made to different ones both of which I shall accept)

[The Perky Ent]

The Battle at the Bridge was the only one fought on a bridge?

[Morsul the Dark]

nope

[Gil-Galad]

more of an ambush at weathertop... but whatever

[Lhunardawen]

Someone "died" at the Bridge of Khazad-dum?

[Morsul the Dark]

well Gil-Galad I'm sorry to offend you

and as fdor bridge of khazaddum its wrong

[The Perky Ent]

Someone did die at the Bridge. Two maia fell, but orcs shooting at the fellowship were killed.

[Tuor of Gondolin]

Attack on the Black Gate.

The only one where Gandalf was not successful?

[Morsul the Dark]

no you were closer when you were thinking about where balrogs were and werent and such they have one person that another battle doesnt

[The Perky Ent]

The Black Gate, because out of all of them, Merry wasn't in it!

[Morsul the Dark]

Its not the one Im thinking of

[The Perky Ent]

Since the weathertop is the one where Frodo gets stabbed, Weathertop, because it's the only one where Gandalf isn't there

[Morsul the Dark]

pulls out gandalf imitation-indeed

Wathertop is correct you're up

[The Perky Ent]

Alright!

Battle of Tumhalad
Battle of Helms Deep
Diasaster of the Gladden Fields
Battle at the Black Gate

It's really simple!

[Morsul the Dark]

Tumhalad had no fellowship members

[NightKnight]

Tumhalad - Barahir's Ring wasn't there.