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Meneltarmacil
09-26-2004, 04:36 PM
I'm not sure if this should go in Books, N&N, or Mirth but here it is anyway.
THE SITUATION:
You are walking in the Old Forest when Tom Bombadil appears, singing a song as usual. For no reason, you attempt to pull out a big knife and stab him with it. What exactly would happen? Would the knife go right through and do nothing? Would you be frozen in place and not be able to draw your knife? Would the knife disappear? I'm really interested in hearing your replies.
Boromir88
09-26-2004, 05:15 PM
I don't know what will happen, maybe the knife will burn up or something, I don't know. But, I do know it probably won't phase him at all, he might even laugh at the attempt (figuring the Bombadil character is a jolly, singing, big man). Bombadil is a mystical character, we know it won't harm him, because as we hear from Glorfindel in the Council of Elrond "Bombadil was first as he is last" and it would take all of Sauron's might to overthrow Bombadil, but Glorfindel does think Sauron could defeat Bombadil if all of Sauron's might is forced upon him.
Elianna
09-26-2004, 05:16 PM
I think Tom would hop out of the way of my knife singing:
"Hey now, crazy lass, you put your knife away!
Tom is in a hurry now. He cannot be delayed.
You go attack Willow Man, he's the one to fear.
But if you attack aught else, it's from Tom that you'll hear."
His words would probably hold a strong power over me, so I would immediately put my knife away and not try it again.
The Saucepan Man
09-26-2004, 05:21 PM
He would subject you to an extended reading of his poetry. More than sufficient to deter any recurrence of the incident. :p :D
Boromir88
09-26-2004, 05:22 PM
I like your little rhyme/song from Bombadil Elianna very creative, and when reading it I actually thought it would be something the Book Bombadil would have said, good post!
Estelyn Telcontar
09-27-2004, 01:00 AM
Since this is not a discussion of the actual contents of the book, and answers are highly speculative, with great possibilities for humorous ideas, I'm moving this thread to the Mirth forum. Please continue there.
Eomer of the Rohirrim
09-27-2004, 03:21 AM
If you stabbed him then he would be badly wounded. However, Tom would probably use his deceptive quickness to jump out of the way of your stroke. He would then tie you up with vines and toss you into the river, whilst muttering something about 'bloody hitchhikers'. You would be left to fend for yourself in the Old Forest, thus you would perish.
Nimrodel_9
09-27-2004, 04:31 PM
This brings up another question. Can Tom Bombadil die? We know he is immortal, but do you think that he could be killed physically? Hmmmm...
Boromir88
09-27-2004, 07:41 PM
If we believe the words of Glorfindel, then yes Bombadil can be beaten.
Council of Elrond
"But in any case" said Glorfindel, "to send the Ring to him would only postpone the day of evil. He is far away. We could not now take it back to him, unguessed, unmarked by and spy. And even if we could, soon or late the Lord of the Rings would learn of its hiding place and would bend all his power towards it. Could that power be defied by bombadil alone? I think not. I think that in the end, if all else is conquered, Bombadil will fall, Last as he was First; and then night will come."
So you got to ask if you believe Glorfindel's words, because this is only his speculation. What HE thinks, and HE thinks Bombadil would die/fall. I don't see any reason not to believe Glorfindel, he is one of the more powerful elves left on Middle-Earth, and grew in wisdom with his death an "reincarnation."
Nilpaurion Felagund
09-27-2004, 09:44 PM
Hmmm . . . perhaps the director would stop the filming process and say "Hey! You're not in my movie!"
Pallando
09-28-2004, 03:33 PM
I think you'd wouldn't be able to get the blade out, or if you did, you wouldn't get a chance to harm him. If you think of it, Frodo and Sam seem to have been entranced from the first moment they heard his voice!
"Hey now! keep that silly blade in its sheath! What be you a-thinking of? Old Tom's in a hurry now, and you'd better not hinder him!"
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