Contradicive statement

[Telchar]

Hi.
I dont know if the thread-title is fitting, but the idea is to come up with a confusing statement + a question.

For exsampel:
Statement: My name is Haldir, but Rumil is not my brother!
Question: What was my fathers name?
Answer: Halmir

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Statement: My name is Barahir, but niether Beren or Dior was my son!
Question: Who was my grand father?

[The Perky Ent]

Faramir! :D


Sounds like this could get interesting...

[Telchar]

Yep Faramir is correct, his grandson Barahir was accounted as the one that wrote the latter part of the tale of Aragorn and Arwen.

You're up Perky :)

[The Perky Ent]

Let me see if I can do this...

Statement: My name is Elendil, but Isildur is not my son
Question: Who are my cousins?

[Telchar]

Excellent question Perky!

Your cousins are: Yávien, Oromendil and Axantur. The latter being the Great Grand father of Hallacar, who married Tar-Ancalime.

[The Perky Ent]

Indeed! Back to you, Telchar!

[Telchar]

Statement: Aragorn is my son, but I am not Arathorn
Question: WHATS MY NAME????

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Gilraen! (If it's not the father, it has to be the mother...) :)

[Hi there, Telchar! Nice to encounter you here! Intriguing thread idea!]

[HerenIstarion]

Or maybe Aravir, father to Aragorn I

[Telchar]

You are of course both correct, Esty was first!

HI Esty, wassup?

[Estelyn Telcontar]

How about this one?

Faramir is my grandson, but I am not Ecthelion. Who is my nephew?

(Busy as always, Telch - both on- and offline!)

[The Perky Ent]

Could it be Meriadoc?

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Applause!! Very well done, Perky! Take it away...

[The Perky Ent]

:) Thanks Esty!

Statement: Voronwë is my name, but I am not of Gondor
Question: What is my surname?

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Do you mean Tréowine in the Notion Club Papers (HoME IX)?

There is a Voronwë of Gondolin, but I haven't been able to find a surname for him.

[The Perky Ent]

Hehe :D No I don't mean Tréowine in the Notion Club Papers (HoME IX)?

And as for Voronwe of Gondolin, look harder :D

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I have found alternate names for Voronwë: Bronweg and Bronwë. That's all so far - no surname(s). If those aren't what you're looking for, could you please give a clue as to where to search?

[The Perky Ent]

Snope, and Snope :D

As for hints, I got it from one of my many resources, so if you want the link I can give it to you, if not, i'll just have to wait

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I do hope it's not a game invention or something like that!! It does need to be canonical Tolkien (i.e. book source) to be valid.

[The Perky Ent]

It is a book resource, but since you are so persistant, consider looking in the chapter concering Tuor and Gondolin

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Eureka! I was just doing exactly that, and I found it! It's Aranwion.

[The Perky Ent]

Correctamundo! I proudly yield the thread to you!

[Estelyn Telcontar]

My name is Fastred, but I am not of Rohan.
Whom did I marry?

[The Perky Ent]

Why that woudl be Elanore, the daughter of Samwise

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Yes indeed! It's all yours...

[The Perky Ent]

Mwa ha ha ha ha!

My name is Ruby, but Drogo is not my son
Who is my youngest uncle?

[Estelyn Telcontar]

It's Carl Cotton, also known as "Nibs".

[The Perky Ent]

'Tis indeed! Your turn :)

[Estelyn Telcontar]

My first name is the same as one of Frodo's friends', but I am not a Hobbit.
Whose travelling companion am I?

[Telchar]

A wild guess would be that you name was Strider and that you were Frodos travelling companion, but also that you were a pony :rolleyes:

[Estelyn Telcontar]

The latter part of your guess is coming pretty close to the solution, Telch, but try a different friend's name...

[Rimbaud]

Bill?

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Nope - Frodo didn't have a friend named Bill!

[Rimbaud]

Ol' apple-chucker Ferny doesn't count as a pal then, eh? Tsk.

[Rimbaud]

Ah, right. Tom's pony Fatty Lumpkin. (Mr Bolger being his 'alter ego').

[Estelyn Telcontar]

And the answer to the question is?

[Rimbaud]

Tom B, I presume. Or am I missing the point?

[Estelyn Telcontar]

Yes, that's what I was looking for. Sorry, but the complicated (convuluted, even!) manner of the questions here required me to be precise (picky, even). Your turn!

[Rimbaud]

My name is Nimloth, although I am no tree.
Who was my uncle then?

[Elianna]

Celeborn.

[Rimbaud]

Quite right, and you're up!

[Elianna]

I am called Turambar, but I did not live during the First Age.

From what country am I?

[Estelyn Telcontar]

You are from Gondor.

[Elianna]

Yup.

[Estelyn Telcontar]

My name is Robin, but I was never a Shirriff. Who is my brother-in-law?

[Telchar]

Both Fastred of Greenholms and Faramir Took ...

[Estelyn Telcontar]

I would have settled for one of them, but you named both possibilities, Telch! Your turn.

[Telchar]

My name is Turin and my father is Hurin... But I slew no worm of Morgoth
Who is my son?

[Telchar]

Correct answer: Barahir, steward of Gondor.

Im going away for a week (to lovely Spain), and won't be back until next monday, so anybody can continue this thread :)