WWJ II: Welcome to Lower Tadfield. The Apocalypse has Now Begun.

[malkatoj]

The Rules for this game of Werewolf:

A village comprised of 15 people. Roles are as follows:

Wolf: Works with other wolves to decide, each NIGHT, who to kill. Tries to kill as many of the villagers as possible without getting killed. Wins when the number of villagers equals the number of wolves.

Seer: Each NIGHT, dreams of someone and finds out that person's role. Tries to aid the village in finding the werewolves and protecting the other special villagers.

Ranger: Each NIGHT, chooses one villager to protect from the wolves.

Hunter: Each NIGHT, chooses one person to kill if he is killed. If the hunter changes his or her mind during the day, he/she can then choose a new person to kill in the event that he/she is lynched.

Mythomaniac: The second NIGHT, chooses one person in the game. He/She assumes the role of that person for the rest of the game.

Ordinary Villager: Completely innocent. The Villagers win when they have killed all the wolves.


We have:
-3 wolves
-1 seer
-1 ranger
-1 hunter
-1 mythomaniac
-8 ordinary villagers

RULES:
Votes will be NON-RETRACTABLE. Once you vote, you cannot change your mind and vote for someone else.
There WILL be double lynchings. If the same number of votes is cast for two players (and that number of votes is higher than that of any other number of votes that DAY), then BOTH of the players will be lynched. Be careful who you vote for!
If you know you are not going to post on a day, you must post in the planning thread saying so and giving a good reason. If you do not post in the planning thread with a good excuse AND do not post for a two-DAY period, you will be lynched.
Votes shall be cast as such: ++NAME. They should be a new line and the TITLE OF THAT POST SHOULD BE "VOTE". If you do not meet these rules, your vote will NOT BE COUNTED.
Wolves are not allowed to talk during DAY hours. Nobody is allowed to talk about the game outside this thread unless their role requires PMing, in which case they are only allowed to talk about it in those PMs.

It is now NIGHT. Wolves, you may being to PM to discuss strategies, etc. I need a name from the Seer. DAY will begin at 9:00, regardless of when my death is posted.

[malkatoj]

The rain thudded on the windshield as Malkatoj and Abercrombie headed back from a long, infernal day. The car was filled with idle chatter as the two discussed different methods of creating a Pinja (pirate ninja). The moon was fully visible through the clouds and rain, perfectly round—it looked exactly like cheese. The night soon grew dark as clouds obstructed the path of the moon’s light, making everything outside the car impossible to see. As Malkatoj searched for the “Heavy Loam” setting on her windshield wipers, Abercrombie screamed. She pointed outside the car, stuttering madly. “It was—I saw—It was a werewolf!” she finally managed to gasp. Malkatoj glanced over her shoulder, searching for the so-called wolf. “I see nothing,” she replied calmly, sure that her friend had gone mad. “That’s funny, I could have sworn I saw something,” Abercrombie replied, much calmed down from before. After twelve minutes of silence, another creature darted in front of the car, confirming Abercrombie’s relative sanity. “See? Wolf!” she exclaimed, determined to prove herself. “Oh no, that’s not a wolf. Much too big to be a wolf. That there—that’s a rabbit, that is,” argued Malkatoj. “But—No! It has big, pointy teeth! It couldn’t be a rabbit!” Abercrombie, distracted, swerved off the road and into a small ditch. “Great,” muttered Malkatoj. They were now completely lost. A long silence followed the accident, as the two stood outside the car waiting for someone to rescue them. Finally, “It wasn’t really a rabbit,” Malkatoj stated, fear evident in her voice. “Malkatoj, what do you mean?” questioned Abercrombie as her face paled in fear. “That—that’s a Balrog, that is. I know a Balrog when I see one.” At this point, Abercrombie could not help but laugh. “Silly Malkatoj, everyone knows that Balrogs have wings!” “Have you ever seen one?” questioned Malkatoj, all too sure of herself. “They don’t have wings. But they don’t not have wings. They have…one wing.” Abercrombie stared in horror. “But that sounds like—” “Exactly.” Malkatoj looked around and then muttered quietly so the creatures would not hear what she was about to say: “One wing—to wule them all!” Abercrombie again laughed. “Now you’re being ridiculous, Malkatoj,” she said as she pulled out her sword. She attacked Malkatoj, who was too fast with her parry. Soon, Abercrombie had no arms, but her determination remained. “Your arms are off!” yelled her opponent, who remained completely confused as to how Abercrombie had not died from blood loss. “It’s just a flesh wound,” she said, charging toward Malkatoj. “Have at you!” Malkatoj, however, dropped her sword in horror, staring open-mouthed behind the bleeding Abercrombie, who turned around just in time to see a giant creature devour the both of them. Before each died, she tried to explain what it was in case any villagers were nearby, but Márcolië, who was waiting to aid them in their passage, could only hear “It’s the creature from Aughhhhhhhh” before DEATH saw them collapse.

ALIVE:
Bergil, m. A 'Superstitious Guy.'
Rune Son of Bjarne, Traveling Cheese Juggler
Wilwarin538, f. that crazy girl who wants to be a butterfly
Glirdan, m. Baker.
WaynetheGoblin. Scientist.
Gurthang. Peddler.
Sleepy Ranger. Explorer from out of town who gets stuck in Lower Tadfield.
Sotty. School teacher
Tar-ancalime. Crone.
Márcolië Lamen, unknown. DEATH.
Eonwe. Friendly undertaker.
Holbytlass, f. tanner.
Hiriel. Connoisseur of pointy objects.
THE Ka. Ophelious Philosopher.
Kitanna. Historian.

DEAD:
Malkatoj (mod) Eaten by one-winged Balrog or Wolf or Something, Night 1
AbercrombieOfRohan (backup mod) Eaten by one-winged Balrog or Wolf or Something, Night 1


DAY has now begun. You may start discussing. The DAY's death will be posted tomorrow at 9 PM, GMT-5.

[WaynetheGoblin]

Two tragic deaths in one night this is not good.

[Márcolië Lamen]

*out of breath having run back to the village* WOLF OR BALROG OR SOMETHING ATTACKING. I HAVE MUCH WORK TO DO. HAD TO WARN VILLAGE FIRST THOUGH. SOMEONE MUST HAVE BEEN AFFECTED. I DON'T WANT TO WORK MORE THAN NECESSARY THOUGH SO DON'T MAKE OR LET INNOCENTS DIE. PLEASE. OH AND CAN ANYONE BRING A POOR DEATH SOMETHING TO DRINK?

[Eonwe]

Headlines: MOD KILLED AGAIN ON DAY ONE OF VILLAGE INFESTATION!

i can't really say that came as a surprise, but ill drink to both their healths (and burials!). both fine citizens of this here Lower Tadfield.

here follows what must be said every Day 1:

nothing is known, but in the coming days, we will be able to piece together little things from what people say. those will all come together near the end. as our evidence grows and our number decrease, our chances of catching our quite friends will become greater and greater.

and here follows what i say every Day 1:

please, please, try to back everything up. in every game ive played, no one tells me WHY something is suspicious, just that it is. WHY was henry's voting yesterDay suspicious? Why would a wolf want to hide in this manner? WHY do you think such and such? i realise that sometimes, you just have nothing other than a gut feeling, and that's all right. just whenever possible, try to tell me WHY.

that is all...

[Gurthang]

Márcolië, I'll see what I can rustle up from my cart, although I'm not exactly sure what DEATH would drink.... But I'll find something anyway. And while I'm at it, I'll have to see what I've got in store as far as weapons and anti-thing tonic. I don't ever carry much of those, but I think I've got a few sitting in the depths of my wagon.

*Hustles to wagon, comes back with paper, a rusty ax, and a flask.*

Here, I've found this... It looks to be directions or a how-to guide or something. It says:

In the event of an attack by werewolves, the best way to react to the situation is to kill the person most likely to be a wolf each day, usually by lynching.

Hmm... I don't know if these be werewolves we are dealing with, but that sounds like good advice to me. I'm thinking Márcolië might be a good choice. Maybe DEATH has become a bit eager and taken to prematurely killing people? Or perhaps we should lynch Wayne, just for old times sake? ;) Oh, by the way, does anyone have a sharpening stone? I think I'll be needing this ax.

[Eonwe]

lol, sign up for the lynch wayne bandwagon here! registrtiona only five dollars! get yours today!

just kidding.

[Glirdan]

Tis a sad day here in Lower Tadfield. Two villagers slain at one time!! Two very dear friends of mine. Oh what person or thing could cause this monstrosity!?!? I say villagers, we need to keep a sharp eye out for those Wolves or Balrogs or whatever it was that attacked the two. I'll be watching all of you very closely. Now I must run back to my shop. The bread is burning!!!

[Kitanna]

One-winged Balrog?! Odd and very frightening. And to lose two who were so full of life. How very depressing.

[Glirdan]

Well, It's awfully silent. I'm surprised that people aren't up and about talking about this monstrosity. Well actually I'm not. I'm an early riser so I don't know who else knows about this awful tragedy.....

I'm going to say right now that I think Eonwe is innocent. Don't ask why, it's a complete gut feeling.

Marcolie is a little suspicious. Is it just an accident that s/he was going there to help our two friends? Or was s/he there for a more sinister reason?

As for the rest, I will have to wait and see...

[wilwarin538]

Two in one night!?!?!?! Even worse, two of my dearest friends. They were the only ones who encouraged my dream of butterflydom(yes that is so a word). They would always say "You can do it Wilwa, one day you will be a butterfly". :(

We must find these fiends, and soon, or we could lose the whole village. But I'm afraid I have to take a nap, then tend to my studies, then I will be back to find these lycans. :mad:

[sotty]

Oh what a sad day indeed poor Malkatoj and AbercrombieOfRohan what a horrible end they met....
Eonwe we will sadly need your expertise in taking care of these poor dead souls, but for now l shall return and search the old school library for any tips and clues on how to recognize such evil.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Two people dead? Oh no what a horrible time for me to be in town. I shall now proably be stuck here for a while. With any luck we'll be able to resolve matters soon. I am really sorry that the village has lost two really good people. :(

May you rest in peace Malkatoj and AbercombieOfRohan

[Gurthang]

*Comes back to the group with a newly sharpened and gleaming ax, among other things.*

Wow, I just recalled that I haven't used this ax since my wagon was assaulted by thieves about a year and a half ago. Not the best of memories...

But, yes, I've got some things that will help us.

First, here's a couple bottles of anti-thing tonic. Guaranteed to keep off any foul creatures of the night! Only $17.46... (note: this is a cheap mixture of 55% water, 42% alcohol and 3% sugar. Roleplay accordingly. ;) ) Also, I've got a small sword, a rather bulky shield, and a couple of breastplates. Any bids on this fine equipment?

Oh, Glirdan, I couldn't help but overhear. I've done some calculating, and it's true that the odds are in Eonwe's favor, but you can never be completely sure about anyone. Don't make assumptions now, because once they are in your mind, it is very difficult to get them out.

One other bit of advice. Look not at those who are loud, nor at those who are quiet... our enemies will surely try to keep away from either extreme.

[tar-ancalime]

I hoped it would never happen in Lower Tadfield. Other places, other villages have been attacked but we have so far been spared.

Let us learn from those who have fought wolves before us. Although we do indeed face the unsettling task of weeding out the culprits, we must never forget that peace may come at the expense of the lives of some of our innocent villagers.

Today, especially, we must be strong in the face of uncertainty. I urge everyone to watch, to wait, and above all to refrain from accusing the innocent.

[Gurthang]

Today, especially, we must be strong in the face of uncertainty. I urge everyone to watch, to wait, and above all to refrain from accusing the innocent.

I feel I should point out that this will not really work. We have to speak up, or else we will never figure anything out. And about the accusing, judging reactions is a big thing. If you accuse someone, you may be able to tell a lot about them by how they respond.

Basically, let the accusations and defenses fly! :D

[tar-ancalime]

But of course, Gurthang! I said that we should refrain from accusing the innocent. But I also know that whomever I accuse is sure to be guilty, so no worries there.

[Eonwe]

well, im glad to be in your good graces, but i can't for the life of me make out why im in. i've only made two post and one was a joke. are you doing this to spite me? just kidding ;) .

Eonwe we will sadly need your expertise in taking care of these poor dead souls
well, i've only played two games, and lost both, so i think i hardly deserve "expertise" status, but yes i will do all im my powers to kill our tormentors.

anyway, lets get this thread rolling...

[Hiriel]

Oh goodness! Two villagers in one night. This is grim indeed. I perhaps need to start cataloging pointy things so we can protect our beloved village from future tragedies. Either that, or blame somebody.

Hmm...no one is suspecious yet. The first day is always very random and baseless, and most of the evidence against people builds from there. Herm, I suppose I slighty suspect Marcolie, just because DEATH is kinda scary, or perhaps Glirdan, just because. I don't think we should build the Lynch Wayne bandwagon just yet. Hmm. I must to class, but I check on the thread later.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Oh goodness! Two villagers in one night. This is grim indeed. I perhaps need to start cataloging pointy things so we can protect our beloved village from future tragedies. Either that, or blame somebody.

As long as the pointy things are not claws or fangs/teeth I'm all for it. As for blaming somebody.....blame?....accuse would be a better word, no? Anyway as long as we don't throw it around randomly and think it over logically I daresay we'll be heading in the right direction. At the moment I don't really find anybody suspicious, I mean its just the first day so nothings clear. I daresay we'll have a clearer view of things tomorrow. With any luck we'll be able to take care of things before they get too messy.

[tar-ancalime]

Does Eonwe's demand for explanations strike anyone else as suspicious?

Is she (he?) attempting to prevent villagers from speaking up by requiring a standard of evidence that is impossible to attain, especially on the first day? A good tactic for a wolf--convincing others to be silent with their suspicions, then preying on an uncertain populace with trumped-up "evidence" when the time is ripe.

I admit that in the first shock of this terrible tragedy, I gave some unwise advice: I believe I advised you all to "watch and wait." This was a mistake, and I hope that I have not cost this village valuable hours.

At the moment, Eonwe is my chief suspect.

Also, I would like to hear more from DEATH. Having been so near to hand at the recent tragedy, certainly she has some observations, suspicions, or inklings to share with us.

[Gurthang]

(Eonwe the odds of being a wolf back-to-back are about 1/22. Hence Glirdan's reasoning. But don't worry, I haven't counted out the possibility. ;) )

Eonwe, I believe that the expertise of yours, the one sotty was refering to, is your skill at undertaking, sadly enough.

tar-ancalime: you're making me suspicious. Don't be so jumpy, and don't flip-flop so much when someone says you're wrong. And to say you have a chief suspect this early (I would consider the entire first day early) is not really a good idea. Unless, both you and Eonwe are wolves, in which case it would be a wolvish strategy. Unlikely, that is, but I'm going to keep my eye on you tar-ancalime.

[Eonwe]

well, i see. :o didn't quite read that right...

well, no ancalime. i don't council not talking, just whenever possible, tell me what you are thinking, that way im on the same page and you don't look suspicious to me. the way i see it, wolves will not have much grounds to accuse people, because they have to accuse innocents. therefore, a baseless accusation registers on the radar as a bit suspicious. but i do realize that everyone will be making baseless accusations, especially in the begining when we have nothing. so if you don't have evidence, say it anyway. if you do have evidence, tell that of course. that's all i was saying.

ps. and im a he :) .

[Kitanna]

(Eonwe the odds of being a wolf back-to-back are about 1/22. Hence Glirdan's reasoning. But don't worry, I haven't counted out the possibility. ;) )
Aye, that is what I was thinking. I'm not counting Eonwe out as a wolf, but his odds of being a wolf two times in a row are pretty slim. But that doesn't mean I think he's an innocent.

So, it has been a few hours since I was last on and yet there is not much. It's expected of day one though, but I'm going to go ahead and accuse everyone who's spoken already. Baseless, accusing using people's occupations, but just to get something out there.

Wayne~ A scientist who most likely didn't believe in werewolves until he became one.
Márcolië Lamen~ Death, well mmm, let's see Death is always looking for more lives to take. So naturally she must be a wolf.
Eonwe~ Our friendly undertaker, psssh, undertakers are not friendly. He probably wants to see innocents die so he has more work.
Gurthang~ A peddler, never trust a peddler.
Glirdan~ Our village baker, well it's always the baker you last suspect, keep on eye on him.
Kitanna~ A historian, they're good for nothing. She was always a shifty character anyway.
Wilwa~ Wants to become a butterfly, but was disappointed when she became a wolf instead and went after the two innocents who really believed she could be a butterfly.
Sotty~ A school teacher. Teachers tend to like making things hard on their students, so now this wolf is making things hard on the rest of the town.
Sleepy Ranger~ An explorer from out of town? Funny how all this trouble starts when you arrive.
Tar-ancalime~ A crone is an unpleasant old woman. Unpleasant old women like to make things terrible for everyone.
Hiriel~ Connoisseur of pointy objects...like teeth and claws!

[sotty]

Sadly Eonwe I was referring to your skills in burying the dead.

well, i've only played two games, and lost both, so i think i hardly deserve "expertise" status, but yes i will do all im my powers to kill our tormentors.

Any experience will help in these situations, I can only hope that your “help” will be in the best interests of the town as a whole. ;)

Kitanna your list certainly is interesting and since you have posted I'll add your name on to the bottom here....

Kitanna – Historians are known for burying their heads in books and so has learned from the past on how to keep her wolfish tells well hidden

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Two dead people, the first day I am in town !

This will not be good for buisness! People just dont want to pay for cheese intertainment, after experiencing a massacrer.

And I who have spend the day rehearsing my new Cheddar, Camembert and Crotin du Chavignol. Juggling act.

I think I better stay and help sort this mess out. Cheese can be used for everything you know. Although I might have gone a bit too far when I made that Chesse kayak!

As for the moment I have no suspects, but I will go carefully throug the posts and inform you all later.

[Márcolië Lamen]

Márcolië Lamen~ Death, well mmm, let's see Death is always looking for more lives to take. So naturally she must be a wolf.

IT'S DEATH. CAPITALIZED. DEATH ALWAYS SPEAKS IN CAPITAL LETTERS :p. [AND MY GENDER IS UNKNOWN, I MEAN I'M DEATH]

KITANNA- QUICK TO BLAME EVERYONE BUT HERSELF, 'STUDYING' FOR HISTORY, MORE WOLFISH TO ME THAN MERELY BEING A HORSEPERSON. ;)


OK NOW THAT THAT'S DONE. TAR, I FEEL IS FLIP FLOPPING TOO MUCH, ESPECIALLY SO EARLY ON...

COULD JUST BE LACK OF EXPERIANCE WITH WOLVES, I MEAN WE HAVEN'T HAD THEM HERE BEFORE. TOO BAD THEY TOOK ME OUT OF RETIREMENT.

EONWE HAS THE SAME CHANCE AS US ALL 3 IN 15, OR RATHER 3 IN 14 COULD I SAY?, OF BEING A WOLF, STATISTICALLY. JUST HAD TO MENTION THAT YOU CAN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT PAST ACTIONS FOR STATISTICS.


ON THEIR DEATH, ALAS I GOT THERE TOO LATE TO LEARN MUCH OF ANYTHING. JUST THAT THE WOLVES/BALROGS WERE IN FACT IN THIS VILLAGE. BINKY'S GETTING OLD AND NOT AS FAST AS HE WAS PREVIOUSLY. I'M SAD THAT I HAD TO...HELP DEATHIFY, 'CAUSE ITS NOT KILL...TWO DEAR FRIENDS OF MINE. MALKA AND ABERCROMBIE HOPE YOU CROSS THE DESERT QUICKLY AND REACH WHATEVER AFTERLIFE YOU BELEIVE IN.


WE PROBABLY SHOULD TALK ABOUT STRATEGIES TO SOME DEGREE. JUST BASIC ONES AS NOT TO HELP THE WOLVES THOUGH. LIKE THE WHOLE TALKING. ITS HARDER FOR A WOLF TO HIDE AMOUNG SILENTS SINCE WE KNOW NOTHING.
GIFTED SAYING EARLY ON, BE CAREFUL WITH HINTING AND DON'T START TOO EARLY. DON'T HINT YET ON THE FIRST DAY I DON'T THINK.
AND TO THE MYTHO, PLEASE MAKE A CHOICE WHICH HELPS US.

-DEATH

[Kitanna]

KITANNA- QUICK TO BLAME EVERYONE BUT HERSELF, 'STUDYING' FOR HISTORY, MORE WOLFISH TO ME THAN MERELY BEING A HORSEPERSON. ;)

Ah, but I did blame myself.
Posted by Me:
Kitanna~ A historian, they're good for nothing. She was always a shifty character anyway.

Besides it's day one, we need to start somewhere.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Besides it's day one, we need to start somewhere.

Granted we need to start somewhere but accusations off occupations are rather baseless since the occupation has no meaning. I'm going to do what I did in the last game and just observe for the first day before actually devoting myself in the next when we'll have some harder evidence.

Anyway I'm out for now but I'll be back later in the day and will probably vote then.

[Márcolië Lamen]

Ah, but I did blame myself.
Besides it's day one, we need to start somewhere.

SORRY I MISSED THAT ONE. US APOCOLYPTIC HORSE PERSONS DON'T HAVE THE BEST OF HEARING, ESPECIALLY NOW WITH THE RUSHING BECAUSE OF THE ONCOMING APOCALYPSE AND MISSING ANTICHRIST. SORRY I MISSED THAT.

BEYOND THAT, YES WE NEED TO START SOMEWHERE AND THANK YOU FOR STARTING THE BLAME GAME.

[Holbytlass]

Sorry to be so long, salting hides does take awhile. And sorry we meet under these awful circumstances. This being the first day, we all realize not much can be deciphered, therefore I have split the village in two categories. As things progress, a more accurate (hopefully) list will emerge. In the meantime.....

suspicious list
Hiriel. Connoisseur of pointy objects
Bergil, m. A 'Superstitious Guy.'
Rune Son of Bjarne, Traveling Cheese Juggler
Wilwarin538, f. that crazy girl who wants to be a butterfly
Glirdan, m. Baker.
Gurthang. Peddler.
Sleepy Ranger. Explorer from out of town who gets stuck in Lower Tadfield.
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not suspicious
Sotty. School teacher
Tar-ancalime. Crone.
Márcolië Lamen, unknown. DEATH.
Eonwe. Friendly undertaker.
WaynetheGoblin. Scientist
THE Ka. Ophelious Philosopher.
Kitanna. Historian.

absolute innocent
Holbytlass, f. tanner.

[Kitanna]

accusations off occupations are rather baseless since the occupation has no meaning.

Of course they're baseless. But this is how I see it. We can spend today sitting around, everyone afraid to say anything for fear of being attacked by an angry mob of villagers and then when someone is killed tonight we start right back the same way tomorrow. Or we could just start blaming people on gut feelings or occupations or what have you and see how they react to them. I don't really plan on using my list of occupations again. It was just a starting place.

[Hiriel]

Herm...Just on on my lunch break and things really haven't changed all that much. But here's my thoughts right now.

Kitana: Wonderful list. :) Your implication of everyone, including yourself, though,doesn't help much though, unless someone gets suddenly very defensive. Which no one did. At least this village has a proper sense of humor, is all I can say.

Marcolie: Hmm. Two things : First you seem to be echoing what Sleepy said about Tar, which interests me, and Kitana did include herself in that list, actually. Second, this is a personal request with no baring on the game, if you could not write in all caps, I'd be very much obliged. It's just kinda distracting to me, entertaining though it is (Blinky!). I think we'll all refer to you, Master DEATH, appropriately.

DON'T HINT YET ON THE FIRST DAY I DON'T THINK.
AND TO THE MYTHO, PLEASE MAKE A CHOICE WHICH HELPS US.
To the gifteds: I would say hint or don't hint. There is no try. If you feel like you can hint subtly enough without arousing suspecion of the wolves, then please, let us know who you are, so we don't mistakenly lynch you. If you don't feel you can do that, just slink in the shadows and try to do the best job you can.

Also Marcolie, Who's Us? :)

No real suspects just yet. I'm a little suspecious of Tar, but I'm willing to write off his flip flopage (is that a word?) as first day/first game jitters. If he writes up another post like his earlier ones, though, I think he'll get on my hit-list.

[Gurthang]

Gurthang~ A peddler, never trust a peddler.


Never trust a..! I'm terribly offended! You know, it's for people like you that I can never, ever stay in a town for very long. They always get suspicious. I've even had people go so far as to claim I stole from them to get me out of town! I don't see how you can distrust me simply because I love to travel and so made it into a job. I don't like that attitude at all! :p

EONWE HAS THE SAME CHANCE AS US ALL 3 IN 15, OR RATHER 3 IN 14 COULD I SAY?, OF BEING A WOLF, STATISTICALLY. JUST HAD TO MENTION THAT YOU CAN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT PAST ACTIONS FOR STATISTICS.

Technically, you are right. For this game, his odds are not different from the rest of us. But, you have to multiply the other game for it to factor in. Which comes to 9/195. It's like when you flip a coin, the odds for each toss are 1/2, but if you say you'll get two heads in a row, the odds are 1/4. So depends on how you look at it; if you factor the other game in or not.

Granted we need to start somewhere but accusations off occupations are rather baseless since the occupation has no meaning.

What better way to waste the first day and get some conversation started than to banter witlessly about our occupations? :D

[Márcolië Lamen]

Ok, I'll talk normally. It'll be easier for me to, was actually debating switching to normal just because it gets rather annoying to keep switching caps lock while typing up a post and talking in IM.


Technically, you are right. For this game, his odds are not different from the rest of us. But, you have to multiply the other game for it to factor in. Which comes to 9/195. It's like when you flip a coin, the odds for each toss are 1/2, but if you say you'll get two heads in a row, the odds are 1/4. So depends on how you look at it; if you factor the other game in or not.


I see what you are saying. But I just am bothered by the use of statistics in that way because you can't factor in the last game while looking at this one. They are independent events. But you are right too.


Also Marcolie, Who's Us?


Us would
obviously be the village as a whole. You think even Master DEATH would like see people torn apart? I myself would rather die of natural causes...well if I was mortal that is.

[Kitanna]

In a bit I'm going to have to head off to class and there's no telling when I shall return to post again. Before DAY ends, but when, I do not know.

But I did go through and read everything over again and there is not much to go on. Though there were a few posts that stuck out as I read them again...

Gurthang
In the event of an attack by werewolves, the best way to react to the situation is to kill the person most likely to be a wolf each day, usually by lynching.
Yes, this is a good idea, but it also a bad idea. Bandwagoning is just what werewolves want. If the entire village goes after one person and they all vote for him/her then that person proves innocent it is harder to pick the wolf from the voters. I'd say wait to bandwagon until a day or two has gone by. I think it is very dangerous for us to bandwagon on day one.

Glirdan
I'm going to say right now that I think Eonwe is innocent. Don't ask why, it's a complete gut feeling.
A follow-up to this was Gurthang saying the odds were in Eonwe's favor he was not a wolf, but not to count him out. I have a feeling Glirdan knows something.

tar-ancalime
Today, especially, we must be strong in the face of uncertainty. I urge everyone to watch, to wait, and above all to refrain from accusing the innocent.
Gurthang responded to this first by saying we need to talk because silence will not help us. Also though it would be ideal to catch all the wolves in the first three days I fear the odds are not in our favor. It is hard not to accuse an innocent (unless you're the seer ;) ) Tar, you should talk much, do not wait until it is too late.

tar-ancalime
But of course, Gurthang! I said that we should refrain from accusing the innocent. But I also know that whomever I accuse is sure to be guilty, so no worries there.
This made me uneasy and confused. Perhaps it is just the way it was worded, but I felt this statement was a little off.

tar-ancalime
Does Eonwe's demand for explanations strike anyone else as suspicious?

Is she (he?) attempting to prevent villagers from speaking up by requiring a standard of evidence that is impossible to attain, especially on the first day? A good tactic for a wolf--convincing others to be silent with their suspicions, then preying on an uncertain populace with trumped-up "evidence" when the time is ripe.
This is more to say I agree with Eonwe. I think giving reasons for our suscipions is good. But at the same time tar makes a good point about Eonwe trying to get people to back down. The only adivice I can give here is to shout out who you think is innocent and who you think is guilty. Give the best reason you can, regardless of if it is good or not, please do not be silent. It will only cause trouble.

Gurthang
tar-ancalime: you're making me suspicious. Don't be so jumpy, and don't flip-flop so much when someone says you're wrong. And to say you have a chief suspect this early (I would consider the entire first day early) is not really a good idea. Unless, both you and Eonwe are wolves, in which case it would be a wolvish strategy. Unlikely, that is, but I'm going to keep my eye on you tar-ancalime.
I agree with you on tar having a chieg suspect so early. Though for right now I think perhaps the flip-flopping is new day jitters. Though if it continues I will take a closer look at tar. The idea of both Eonwe and Tar has wolves though. Unlikely. Unless these wolves are very confident then I do not think they'd attack one another today.

Márcolië Lamen
WE PROBABLY SHOULD TALK ABOUT STRATEGIES TO SOME DEGREE. JUST BASIC ONES AS NOT TO HELP THE WOLVES THOUGH. LIKE THE WHOLE TALKING. ITS HARDER FOR A WOLF TO HIDE AMOUNG SILENTS SINCE WE KNOW NOTHING.
GIFTED SAYING EARLY ON, BE CAREFUL WITH HINTING AND DON'T START TOO EARLY. DON'T HINT YET ON THE FIRST DAY I DON'T THINK.
I'd suggest keep away from hinting until tomorrow. And if you think you have a gifted pegged don't announce it to the village, you may be right and that could spell trouble for us. Also I don't think we're going to get a strategy in today.

Holbytlass
I'm wondering how she made up her list. Holbytlass, what made you decide to stick some people on one list instead of the other?

Hiriel
To the gifteds: I would say hint or don't hint. There is no try. If you feel like you can hint subtly enough without arousing suspecion of the wolves
I agree.

So that is what I have so far. Not a whole to go on, but hopefully it will be something for you all to go on. I will return in a few hours.

EDIT: Thank you DEATH for turning off your caps. It was beginning to bother my eyes.

[Gurthang]

I see what you are saying. But I just am bothered by the use of statistics in that way because you can't factor in the last game while looking at this one. They are independent events. But you are right too.

Exactly. Which is why Eonwe is not cleared in my mind. Just less... probable. ;)

[wilwarin538]

I have returned.

Now I would just like to say that I don't think people should keep refurring to past games. You can use your past experiences to help you along but you shouldn't be saying "Well in the last game....".

Now random suspicions are already flying around, which is a good sign that we're all very serious about defeating these wolves.

From what I can tell we have less then 5 hours to choose someone. I say we don't lynch the loud ones, but we also don't lynch the very quiet ones, since wolves aren't dumb enough(atleast I don't think they are) to be posting very little. Which leaves us with those who post a moderate amount. Anyway, thats how I'm going to choose who to vote for. :rolleyes: So that gives me tar-ancalime, Sleepy and Glirdan. I will now vote for one of them.

++tar-ancalime

Like everyone else's vote, this is random. I literally put these three names in a hat. No hard feelings I hope.

[Holbytlass]

Holbytlass
I'm wondering how she made up her list. Holbytlass, what made you decide to stick some people on one list instead of the other?
Nothing special, I'm afraid, just split down the middle and shuffled a few names because it is the first day. That's really what everyone is doing toDAY, except the seer on one person.
Except for Wilwarin, that's just for old time's sake. ;)

Just to be clear, we have until 9:00p.m.EDT(1:00a.m.GMT) to vote, right?

[Holbytlass]

I say villagers, we need to keep a sharp eye out for those Wolves or Balrogs or whatever it was that attacked the two. I'll be watching all of you very closely.
I'm going to say right now that I think Eonwe is innocent. Don't ask why, it's a complete gut feeling.
(I added the bolding) I am now highly suspicious of Glirdan and will probably vote for him toDAY. One might say, but he is the seer, I say no because he is being too obvious. A true seer (or gifted) would not be so blatant especially on the first DAY and Glirdan has been around long enough to know. I think he is a wolf trying to come across as the seer so as not to be lynched. Of course, he would know Eonwe is innocent because all wolves know who is innocent.


Ok, I'll talk normally. It'll be easier for me to, was actually debating switching to normal just because it gets rather annoying to keep switching caps lock while typing up a post and talking in IM.
And who are you I.M-ing? Highly suspicious (since of hand I don't know if wolves are allowed to talk during the day) but I'll give the benefit of the doubt until I find out the rule of this village for sure.

Actually, I have to vote now....

++GLIRDAN

[wilwarin538]

Nothing special, I'm afraid, just split down the middle and shuffled a few names because it is the first day. That's really what everyone is doing toDAY, except the seer on one person.

This confused me, probably cause of the way its worded. Did you mean that you put me on the suspect list for old time sake? Or did you meen something else.

I don't think Marc's comment about IMing is to supicious. I don't think she meant it that way. Or did she? :rolleyes:


I agree about Glirdan, he seems to be trying to get himself thought as the seer. I think I real way to test him would be to not lynch him today. Then the wolves would most likely want to kill the suspected seer(unless they already have someone in mind), then if he isn't the one killed toNight then he could be a wolf, not wanting to kill himself. Just an idea, hope that didn't confuse you all.

[sotty]

BEYOND THAT, YES WE NEED TO START SOMEWHERE AND THANK YOU FOR STARTING THE BLAME GAME.

I believe this is the second time the word “blame” has been used (the first done by Hiriel) and I must say I find it a bit disconcerting. Playing a blame game suggests to me nothing good. It could amount in a bandwagon being built against some poor innocent who is quickly buried under by people who are too quick and eager to lay blame. I may be reading too much into this simple misuse of the word but on my re-read it of the thread it definitely stood out to me.


Holbytlass, your list was interesting indeed and now your vote for Glirdan is certainly intriguing. I understand your points and your logic is quite sound. It would be dangerous for the seer to be so obvious so early, but what if he is flying in the face of convention? Would you want to risk the seer so early on? I'm just thinking out loud here for all I know your suspicions could ring true.

As of right now I am wary of DEATH and my vote may rest there

[Glirdan]

Holby, Hobly, Holby. I said that Eonwe is innocent. Just a gut feeling, right? It's becasue of something in, so far, quite a few of the posts I've seen from Eonwe's which makes me believe so. I am not trying to pretend to be the Seer. I'm merely trying to point something out to people, without giving to much away and by the looks of it, at least one other person MIGHT have caught on.

And what about our two wandering folks from out of town? What about Rune and Sleepy? Notice how they turn up when the trouble starts? Coincidence? I think not.

My list of suspicions:

Bergil - not to certain of
Rune Son of Bjarne - high on the suspicions list
Wilwarin538 - she could just be a crazy person. Or she could be acting crazy to cover for her hairy little secret.
Glirdan - innocent
WaynetheGoblin - not sure of
Gurthang - I believe innocent, but not sure. Definetly keeping my eye on him
Sleepy Ranger - high on the suspicions list
Sotty - not sure
Tar-ancalime - not sure
Márcolië Lamen - not completely certain of guilty or innocence
Eonwe - innocent, yet still keeping an eye on. I could be wrong you know.
Holbytlass - not sure
Hiriel - not sure
THE Ka - not sure
Kitanna - not sure

As you see, I'm not sure of a whole lot of people. That's because I didn't have time to read carefully through the posts everyone made. Right now, I'll probably be voting for Rune, Sleepy or Wilwa.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Had I known occupation would play so high on peoples decisions I definately would have picked something else but perhaps people are just trying to back up a random post with evidence that isn't there. Anyway the first day does tend to be quite random and hopefully by the next we won't be falling to things such as occupations and actually going off something solid.

As for who I suspect I don't really want to make any solid statement yet but a few people have caught my eye but I can't know for sure. Expect my vote in another hour or so.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

And what about our two wandering folks from out of town? What about [B]Rune and Sleepy? Notice how they turn up when the trouble starts? Coincidence? I think not.


Well, I do not remember any of the dead beeing choked in cheese!


I realy can't see anything telling me who is innocent and who is not.

This is the people I have as "top" suspects at the moment (just a feeling)

Márcolië Lamen
Gurthang
tar-ancalime
(It does not meen that I will vote for one of them)

but there is still some people who has not even postet, this I do not like!
If they do not post, they do not help the village!

[Glirdan]

Just to let you know, most of that list is randomness and has no real back up proof behind it. Except for Eonwe. As I said, I trust Eonwe, but I could be wrong so I'm going to keep an eye on our friendly undertaker. Who knows, I could very well be wrong about my theory and Eonwe could be the opposite of what I think. I shall wait and see...

Another thing I just noticed while quickly scanning the posts. I'm now really confused at what to think of Sleepy. I'm going to leave him ve for the time being. I'll probably end up voting for Rune or Wilwa as I planned.

[Gurthang]

Reasons, Glirdan? I know it's day one, but you seem awfully sure of yourself.

Oh, and I also went back to check, and you posted your decision that Eonwe was innocent after she had posted only twice. One was nonsense, the other did not contain anything that caught my attention. Please, explain.

Oh, and Rune... same question.

Myself, I have some suspicions. I cannot say some of them, because I might be right and nail the Seer. So I'll not explain those. But here's what I think:

tar-ancalime - flip-floppy. Jumped on Eonwe for telling people to back up what they say. Might be early jitters. Worth watching.

Glirdan - has been accused of trying to send Seer hints. Hinting so drastically this early is not a great idea. Wouldn't want a dead Seer on Night 2. Might be a masquerading wolf, might be the Seer, or we might be reading too much into things. Watch.


US APOCOLYPTIC HORSE PERSONS DON'T HAVE THE BEST OF HEARING

Also Marcolie, Who's Us?

Us would
obviously be the village as a whole.

DEATH, I think you missed which 'Us' Hiriel was referring to. True that us is the village, but I don't think anyone else in the village is an apocolyptic horse person. I think you missed the question because you jumped at the thought of it being a trick. Also watch.

Still no telling about a vote from me. Could still go anywhere, maybe randomly.

Note:
Make sure you read malkatoj's directions on voting in the first post. If it's not correct, it won't be counted!

[Kitanna]

I trust Eonwe
That one little line makes me very weary of you, Glirdan. Only three (four with the seer) people in this game know who they can completely trust. I can see your defense now, "But I said I could be wrong!" But I find it strange you would trust someone so early on.

Now Glirdan, why are you voting for either Rune or Wilwa? I read and reread your posts, but I see nothing. I'm going to guess randomness based on occupation...but if that is the case how is it Sleepy managed to avoid your "might vote for" list. You mentioned him one time a around and then not at all the second. Any reason?

EDIT: Opps, I wanted to ask Rune the same question. Rune, you say it is just a feeling, but what gave you that feeling, may I ask...

[Márcolië Lamen]

I believe this is the second time the word “blame” has been used (the first done by Hiriel) and I must say I find it a bit disconcerting. Playing a blame game suggests to me nothing good. It could amount in a bandwagon being built against some poor innocent who is quickly buried under by people who are too quick and eager to lay blame. I may be reading too much into this simple misuse of the word but on my re-read it of the thread it definitely stood out to me.

As of right now I am wary of DEATH and my vote may rest there

I was using blame because of the lack of information in order to have concreate suspisions today. Once we have for information we should work off of that, but before that and getting started so that we can get that information I can currently see no easy way but blaming the deaths of our dear beloved mods upon them.

Your point against bandwagoning is good, but I think no matter how the person becomes the one in that position, it may happen. We need to make sure this doesn't happen.

Oh and everyone please don't take my occupation against me. DEATH or not I care about the village.


On Eonwe, it feels trust comes too soon in general, mainly just from the repition of one name as a probable innocent.

As my fellow villagers will vote, mine will also be random- mostly based off of amount of posting since we have no much else to go on and any suspisions I have now beyond those of living here I am keeping to be watched but not gone overboard with, because first day, and even more so on first game, jitters hit.

THIS IS DEATH SIGNING OFF
(insert hoof print here)-Binky and Master DEATH

[Bergil]

You all dissed me for studying them instead of math, but nohard feelings,I'll help you. the most common way of becoming a werewolf is to drink water from a wolf's pawprint (I read that the stories about being bitten originated in Hollywood, and wouldn't they have bitten abercrombie and malkatoj instead of killing them if it were so). Ghurthang, Sleepy Ranger, and Rune have travelled more and may have been lost in the forest, but this proves nothing. also, I've had strange feelings ever since I've came here, but I'd always put it down to flows of chii, or having met some of the people here in a previous life. I apologise for taking so long to speak,I was delayed. I will not vote just yet, as someone may say something (or perhaps said somthing in the hour it took me to type this. I was forced to leave halfway through)

[Holbytlass]

Nothing special, I'm afraid, just split down the middle and shuffled a few names because it is the first day. That's really what everyone is doing toDAY, except the seer on one person.

This confused me, probably cause of the way its worded. Did you mean that you put me on the suspect list for old time sake? Or did you meen something else.

I mean, at the time of posting, my list is rather random and pointlessly based, just like "what everyone is doing toDAY". But I added about the seer and one person meaning last night's dream (I was being Captain Obvious). As for you, Wilwarin, you are on the suspect list toDAY for old time's sake but of course, that could change tomorrow. Meaning I put you on the suspect list (tomorrow) because I think you are a wolf.
I don't think Marc's comment about IMing is to supicious. I don't think she meant it that way. Or did she?
Ah, the way things are, perhaps a freudian slip, perhaps not. We can't really know till her death.

It would be dangerous for the seer to be so obvious so early, but what if he is flying in the face of convention? Would you want to risk the seer so early on? I'm just thinking out loud here for all I know your suspicions could ring true.
A true seer would not fly in the face of convention with "I'm the seer" neon signs pointing to themselves, getting themselves killed on the second night by the wolves. That only happens when the seer has dreamt of a wolf and exposes themselves to get that wolf lynched.

Holby, Hobly, Holby. I said that Eonwe is innocent. Just a gut feeling, right?
As a wolf you would know he's innocent, but then maybe you're trying to set up a fellow wolf as an innocent in case you do get lynched. But I think Eonwe is just a pawn in your schemes.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Why I suspect people by Rune

Márcolië Lamen: I guess It was it's talk about wolves having harder too hide amongst silence people, I did not understand. Some of her posts has been of topic if you could say so, quite a good way to make your self noticed, but with out making your self look like a wolf.

Tar-ancalime: It was the faumus flip-flop

Gurthang: I cannot say, there is just something about youre post's that makes me vory. (you too I found was of topic)

(I know I don't have any good arguments, but it is day one and I do not like too just pick a person for no reason)

[Kitanna]

Rune, I'm just glad you gave a reason behind why. I know when I finally vote I will not have very sound reasons today either.

Anywho, I'd like to say this about DEATH's IMing comment. It is possible DEATH was talking to friends outside of the game and outside the Downs on AOL instant messager or some other messager service. I do not think we should hold that against DEATH.

[Márcolië Lamen]

Anywho, I'd like to say this about DEATH's IMing comment. It is possible DEATH was talking to friends outside of the game and outside the Downs on AOL instant messager or some other messager service. I do not think we should hold that against DEATH.

Well to be completely truthful despite its lack of relavance, I will not deny the fact that who I was talking to is a member of the Downs, and is actually a werewolf player. But I was not talking about the game, seeing as DEATH can talk to the dead, but not get information from the mods on the identity of the wolves. ;)



I mean, at the time of posting, my list is rather random and pointlessly based, just like "what everyone is doing toDAY". But I added about the seer and one person meaning last night's dream (I was being Captain Obvious). As for you, Wilwarin, you are on the suspect list toDAY for old time's sake but of course, that could change tomorrow. Meaning I put you on the suspect list (tomorrow) because I think you are a wolf.


This I really don't understand that. Could DEATH please get a rewording?


Waybe and the Ka both really haven't posted. Well Wayne had his one liner saying it was sad they died (which is it).
Please talk you guys?

And I have to echo Kitanna on saying thanks for giving reasons for suspisions Rune its early on but it always is more helpful to have more information to sift through.

[Kitanna]

Well to be completely truthful despite its lack of relavance, I will not deny the fact that who I was talking to is a member of the Downs, and is actually a werewolf player. But I was not talking about the game, seeing as DEATH can talk to the dead, but not get information from the mods on the identity of the wolves. ;)
Well, glad you're honest.

So time is drawing on and I still have no clue who to vote for. I suspect a number of people above the rest, but I'm not entirely sure which one of them to vote for.

Glirdan and Tar both hold places on my list.

Glirdan~ Because of his strange posts regarding Eonwe. Now there's a chance he is a very bold seer, but his hints toward it are very bold and very dangerous. He could be a wolf leading off his scent and trying to throw it elsewhere. (piggybacking on an innocent...) Or he really could have a strong gut feeling.

tar-ancalime~ Not so much for her flip-flopping, but because she has said a few things that caught my attention and my suspicions. But I'm going to let flip-flopping and echoing of ideas slide today because she is new and it is DAY one. I am going back one more time to reread her posts.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Since I must leave now I will vote.

++Glirdan

For reasons stated above by others and because I really don't have a main suspect. Hopefully by the next day we'll have a more certain path to head in.

[Hiriel]

Herm. Back again. Things have progressed a little. It seems the main suspects right now are Tar and Glirdan, with Rune, Gurthang, Sleepy, Marcolie, and Wilwa's names also being thrown around. Herm.

Glirdan's certainty disturbs me. Could be he's gauging people's reactions to his vouchsafing of Eonwe, he is a very foolish Seer. As suspicious as I am of his certainty on this first and very uncertain day, I don't think he's a wolf. Calling attention to himself and another player (Dunno why Eonwe. I've seen nothing in his posts to damn or clear him) like this seems a very bald, foolish tactic for a wolf, who's main objective is to stay hidden so he can kill us all. It smacks more of a cobbler to me. As for his "seeing" hints, I doubt he's a seer, either. No sane seer could afford to be this blatant, even as a bluff. The wolves might buy it and kill him and then were would we all be? I'm very interested as to what happens to Glirdan tonight and tomorrow, and he's still very suspect, but he'll not get my vote.

Tar: I'm still a little suspicious of, because of his flip flopage. He's not posted in a while, either. Dunno, but I doubt I'll vote for him. I'd rather keep an eye on him for a while first.

Wilwa and Sleepy...My gut says they're innocent. I've seen nothing so far that would speak otherwise. I guess time will tell if my feelings are mistaken.

Rune: I like his sound reasoning. He made a very good point about Marcolie, which was something I felt but couldn't quite articulate. Still, I have gut feeling against him. I dunno. Maybe it was because I trusted him completely in WWJ I, and now this is a whole new ballgame. I don't know. He'll not get my vote, either, because my reasons aren't good ones.

Gurthang : Also has made some valid points. Not that wolves are beyond doing so. He's mostly echoed what other people have said, and expanded on that a little bit. Not a suspect of mine. Yet.

Marcolie: Some of what he said has struck me as odd. He didn't quite take on my joke about Who's Us, but got a little (only a little) defensive. The IM comment, I think, is benign. If he had said PM, I might think differently. Yet he's sill suspect. I agree with Rune about him being very present yet expanding on little. He might get my vote toDAY, less I see something in the next couple hours that screams wolf to me. It's mostly utter randomness, with a bit of unease thrown into the mix.

The only other suspect I'd add to the list is Holby, for pretty much the same reasons as Marcolie. Some things just strike me as odd, and I've got a bad feeling about this. (perhaps I should've been connoisseur of Star Wars quotes :) )

I mean, at the time of posting, my list is rather random and pointlessly based, just like "what everyone is doing toDAY". But I added about the seer and one person meaning last night's dream (I was being Captain Obvious). As for you, Wilwarin, you are on the suspect list toDAY for old time's sake but of course, that could change tomorrow. Meaning I put you on the suspect list (tomorrow) because I think you are a wolf.

Yeah, this passage confuses me. Which brings it to my attention, which makes me suspicious. If you could clarify, Holby, especially the sentence about the seer and the one person meaning last night's dream bit. That'd help me greatly.

Oh also: some people have brought up my usage of blame. The honest answer for why I wrote that word is that it's shorter and easier to spell than accuse. The two are basic synonyms, and I wasn't thinking about the negative connotations the former might have as opposed to the latter. I meant nothing sinister or to encourage random mob lynches by it. Sorry.

That's all for now. I'll be back with anything semi-relevant and my vote in an hour or so.

[sotty]

Glirdan~ Because of his strange posts regarding Eonwe. Now there's a chance he is a very bold seer, but his hints toward it are very bold and very dangerous. He could be a wolf leading off his scent and trying to throw it elsewhere. (piggybacking on an innocent...) Or he really could have a strong gut feeling.

This is true Glirdan could just be ruffling some feathers and going with the odds just to see peoples reactions to his comments. He could easily be a wolf jumping on an innocent or they could even both be crafty wolves which would be almost as bold of a plan than if Glirdan turned out to be the seer! There is also the more boring option that he could be an innocent villager, but that would be no fun right? With regrades to Glirdan, I'm happy to play a wait and see game, but if I'm around to see what happens is a different matter all together.

Hiriel – There is something about his posts that I can't quite put my finger on but to quote Glirdan it's just a gut feeling, and not even a strong one to boot.

Tar-ancalime- Flip flopping could be but down to first day nerves but more than that, these posts worry me-
we must never forget that peace may come at the expense of the lives of some of our innocent villagers .

While this is true, the death of any innocents would be nothing I would want to see.
But I also know that whomever I accuse is sure to be guilty, so no worries there

I would love to know how you could be so sure about that.

With so little to go on in DAY 1 I will have to vote with the most evidence I have

++Tar-ancalime

After a re-read Tar-ancalime just piped DEATH for my vote as there is a little more to go on. DEATH is someone I plan to watch.

[Kitanna]

Ok, I had time to eat dinner and shower and that gave me time to think. I decided to do as Wilwa did and take my five main suspects and throw their names in a hat and pull out one. (suspects in case you're wondering or even care: DEATH, Sleepy Ranger, Glirdan, Tar, and Gurthang) I closed my eyes, drew out a name and came up with

++Sleepy Ranger

Now...why I suspected SR.

As for blaming somebody.....blame?....accuse would be a better word, no? Anyway as long as we don't throw it around randomly and think it over logically I daresay we'll be heading in the right direction. At the moment I don't really find anybody suspicious, I mean its just the first day so nothings clear.
Granted we need to start somewhere but accusations off occupations are rather baseless since the occupation has no meaning. I'm going to do what I did in the last game and just observe for the first day before actually devoting myself in the next when we'll have some harder evidence.

Now my whole purpose of posting my list at the beginning was to see how people responded to a random accusation. I felt uneasy each time SR brought up thinking logically and not pointing the blame due to randomness. If we all sat around looking at opening posts and trying to find logic in them we'd be doomed. He says "We need to start somewhere..." but if we do not put some form of accusation out there (no matter how random) then we can't really start.

perhaps people are just trying to back up a random post with evidence that isn't there. Anyway the first day does tend to be quite random and hopefully by the next we won't be falling to things such as occupations and actually going off something solid.
I find this to contradict itself. He says people are giving random posts for evidence that isn't there, but right away he says things today are going to be quite random. So then, why is there just a problem for random suspicions and evidence if that seems to be what day one is made of?

And finally SR voted for Glirdan, for "reasons stated by other people", well which reasons? Which people? Perhaps SR is trying to start a bandwagong, seeing as there is already one vote for Glirdan.

[Eonwe]

um i happen to agree with sr. what good is stabbing in the dark the whole game through. logic. tell me why. what is behind it all? that is what we need to see, cold hard logic. we won't get anywere without it. but there is a great derth of that Day one. so........

++willwa there is no logic and this is a completly random vote. i didn't even do the names in a hat trick...

[Gurthang]

Well, I have to leave and won't be back toDay. So I will go with:

++Márcolië Lamen

Because she is the only one who I think is acting strange and who has not recieved a vote yet. See you all tomorrow.... hopefully.

[Bergil]

++Marcolie "DEATH" Laman

I don't suspect her in the least' but I must vote for someone.

[Kitanna]

um i happen to agree with sr. what good is stabbing in the dark the whole game through. logic. tell me why. what is behind it all? that is what we need to see, cold hard logic. we won't get anywere without it. but there is a great derth of that Day one.
I am not talking about taking random stabs in the dark every day. I am talking about the fact on day one if someone does not get the ball rolling then we will start each day as clueless as we were the day before.

[WaynetheGoblin]

Well I missed a lot. It looks to me that it is a theer way tie. If someone dosent vote to break the tie then three die and we cant do that.

[WaynetheGoblin]

Sorry for the double post. After a little thinking I will vote. Mostly I just voted for her bacause it is tar first game and I dont suspect glirden.
++marcolian.

[Holbytlass]

I mean, at the time of posting, my list is rather random and pointlessly based, just like "what everyone is doing toDAY". But I added about the seer and one person meaning last night's dream (I was being Captain Obvious). As for you, Wilwarin, you are on the suspect list toDAY for old time's sake but of course, that could change tomorrow. Meaning I put you on the suspect list (tomorrow) because I think you are a wolf.

Restating:We all are pretty much in agreement that the first DAY is usually just accusations based on random and nothingness (except the wolves because they know who they are and they know everyone else is innocent). We agree that the seer has had one dream about one person, therefore except for the seer's accusation or defense of ONE person, every other accusation is just guesswork. And since we all know this, that's what makes this an obvious statement.

I hope this clears up what I said because I can't restate any plainer.

[Márcolië Lamen]

votes

Tar-2
Glirdan-2
Sleepy Ranger-1
wilwa-1
DEATH-2


So to break the three way tie
++Glirdan
because you've played more of two to choose from and It'd be fairer to let a new person play

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I realy hate this first day. There is nothing "real" to vote by.

You guys are making this realy hard for me, You have made me a bit suspisios of Glirdan and think less ill of DEATH. I will let Tar-ancalime go for this time, but lets see tomorrow.

arrg I will just go with my first thught.

++DEATH
aka
Márcolië Lamen

[Eonwe]

well that didn't do much good. someone needs to rebreak our tie. have at it guys..

[SunniGadi]

Hey!

It's more than likely too late for me to join...heheh....and I hope no one gets mad t me for posting, but just letting you know I'm here. :D

[malkatoj]

Okay, so current voting is as follows:
Tar: 2
Glirdan: 3
Sleepy: 1
Wilwarin: 1
Marcolie: 3


Here is how to vote: The title of your post MUST be 'Vote.' Then it goes like this:
++NAME
Capitals, I don't care so much about. IF THE NAME IS SPELLED WRONG IT DOES NOT COUNT. Simply because they're right there and you should be able to look at it.

Remember that there ARE double lynchings, but no triple lynchings, so if there is a three-way tie then the first two voted for get lynched. Thanks!

[tar-ancalime]

Oh dear, it's getting a little hot under the collar here! It seems I've had an inauspicious first DAY.

I feel the need to explain myself a little.

First, this:

Tar: I'm still a little suspicious of, because of his flip flopage. He's not posted in a while, either. Dunno, but I doubt I'll vote for him. I'd rather keep an eye on him for a while first.

If you will toddle over to the planning thread, you'll see that I noted I am in Asia. I'm at GMT +7, which is exactly 12 hours different from the Eastern U.S. That means I will post when I can, but posting during the most active hours for you would mean staying up all night. This I cannot do. Look for me at the beginning and ending of each DAY.

Next, the "flip-flop issue."

I will admit that when I heard of this terrible tragedy in our village, I felt in my old bones that something needed to be done. I spoke in terror, in horror of the tales of other villages that have turned on their own innocents. As I have stated above, I was wrong. I should not have advised quiet or waiting. Since trying to correct my tragic error, I have been consistent. I have urged people to voice their suspicions.

Unfortunately my errors did not end there. I posted this, which has raised some suspicions:

But of course, Gurthang! I said that we should refrain from accusing the innocent. But I also know that whomever I accuse is sure to be guilty, so no worries there.

This was mere bravado, an attempt to cancel the overcaution of my previous post. It was another error, I can see now.

I do not want to be a silent, helpless (and unhelpful) bystander who watches my village slowly dwindle. Unfortunately, in all my long years I have never had to deal with a menace of this nature. I hope that you can forgive an old woman for what ought to be a young person's mistakes.

I have also fallen under suspicion for having a "prime suspect" so early in the game. Tell me, how is having one prime suspect different from creating a whole suspect list? My accusation is just as valid toDAY as the lists posted by others.

I will wait a little longer before voting, but I hope that you will not consider the mistakes of an old woman to be the behavior of a fiend.

[sotty]

Sorry for the double post. After a little thinking I will vote. Mostly I just voted for her bacause it is tar first game and I dont suspect glirden.
++marcolian.

I think if you want this to count Wayne you need to bold the name and but vote in the message title

cross posted with Tar-ancalime and malkatoj

[Márcolië Lamen]

Come on, break the tie and let me live. I want to at least get a role.
I know I'll be dead by tomarrow so I'll share now.
<- mytho

[malkatoj]

~~~TIME~~~

Expect Glirdan and DEATH's deaths shortly.

[Hiriel]

Crapberries! Sorry all. Thought it was GMT - 6 for some reason. Damn, I ment to vote with an hour to spare! Very sorry, all. :(

[tar-ancalime]

Me too! I think I must have forgotten about daylight savings time or something. Sorry, all!

[Márcolië Lamen]

posting because our lovely mods are writing up my death (DEATH's death :p)

Remember, do not post at night, you are supposed to be asleep, as I would be if not about to be killed.

[malkatoj]

The sun began to set on Lower Tadfield as the villagers cast their votes, hoping that they would kill a werewolf. One by one, Malkatoj's ghost floated through their walls, telling them to hurry up and get outside. She added to each as she left, "It's cold outside, you'll need a sweater. A sweater..." and floated away.

Finally, the villagers gathered in a circle around the two mods, each equipped with a weapon. Two villagers brought up the people to be lynched.

"Two, eh? In the first night? Well, that's interesting," remarked Abercrombie as she surveyed the crowd.

Suddenly a great commotion rose as Glirdan tried to escape. "I don't want to die! I'm too young! I'm innocent, really!" he protested. One of the villagers, seeing this, lost control and fired a 24-carat golden bullet into his chest. Watching him grow cold, they soon realized that they had killed an innocent.

"Well, there's the other one!" yelled Rune Son of Bjarne, hoping that Márcolië Lamen would be their wolf. DEATH was brought to the middle of the circle. The village was silent in anticipation. As Bergil raised an axe, Malkatoj floated forward, pausing the swing.

"Márcolië Lamen..." she said. "Do you have any last requests? Any at all?"

"Yes, Modkatoj, I do." The entire village stared, confused--why hadn't Glirdan gotten a last request? Finally they understood as Márcolië uttered one word: "Shelob."

"Wait--you want to be Shelob? You could have been anything! Wolf, or seer, or hunter or whatever. And you choose Shelob? A giant spider? Disgusting!" Malkatoj was enraged as to why her Mythomaniac would choose to be a spider.

"No, no, not the spider Shelob. The other Barrow-Downer. I want to be her," Márcolië explained.

"But she's not even--Oh. You make me sad. So be it...come, Abercrombie." With that, the Mod and her backup floated away from the village.

"But we have to kill Márcolië!" shouted the villagers, as they stared at their disappearing Mods and forgot about DEATH. When they finally decided to pay attention, they caught her just as she disappeared from existence, completely and entirely. "But that means...if it's Shelob...it was never here in the first place?" questioned one very astute villager. Then another pointed out, "DEATH is gone...nobody can die now."

"But it's not gone. It just...vanished. It's not dead...it's gone for a walk, you might say. We can still die..." ventured Holbytlass, realizing what had happened.


ALIVE:
Bergil, m. A 'Superstitious Guy.'
Rune Son of Bjarne, Traveling Cheese Juggler
Wilwarin538, f. that crazy girl who wants to be a butterfly
WaynetheGoblin. Scientist.
Gurthang. Peddler.
Sleepy Ranger. Explorer from out of town who gets stuck in Lower Tadfield.
Sotty. School teacher
Tar-ancalime. Crone.
Eonwe. Friendly undertaker.
Holbytlass, f. tanner.
Hiriel. Connoisseur of pointy objects.
THE Ka. Ophelious Philosopher.
Kitanna. Historian.

DEAD:
Malkatoj (mod) Eaten by one-winged Balrog or Wolf or Something, Night 1
AbercrombieOfRohan (backup mod) Eaten by one-winged Balrog or Wolf or Something, Night 1
Glirdan (ordinary) Shot with a 24-carat gold bullet on DAY one.
Márcolië Lamen (Shelob/Mytho) Vanished from ever having existed in Lower Tadfield on DAY one.


IT IS NOW NIGHT. Wolves, start PMing. I need a name from the wolves, the seer, the ranger and the hunter. Please remember to look over the rules in Post 1 before tomorrow, and don't post until the NIGHT's death.

[malkatoj]

It was a long, cold night in Lower Tadfield. As day broke, the villagers stretched their arms and rubbed their sleepless eyes. Each one had his fair share of stumbling into walls from being too tired, and some just outright fell asleep. Alas, they were too nervous to stay that way. They knew that a werewolf attack could occur at any time.

The villagers gathered in the town square and began to count. Due to everyone’s constant falling asleep and being bleary-eyed to the extent that they couldn’t see correctly, nobody really got a straight count until finally Hiriel found a solution: “Does anyone have coffee?” he asked. When he saw the blank looks on everyone’s faces, he understood that no, the village was severely lacking in this food staple.

After a little chatting (and snoring) about where to get coffee, or really anything that would wake them up, Sleepy Ranger remembered something. “Guys…that, you know, that guy I was with. With the cart and all…selling stuff…Gurthang. He’s a peddler, right? Who’s to say he can’t sell coffee?” Sleepy Ranger was of course used to needing to wake up, so the villagers listened to him.

Sleepy led the way to Gurthang’s cart, getting a little lost on the way. Everyone was alert in only one aspect: wolves—any movements made by anyone else caught their attention, and when they realized that it wasn’t a wolf, the fell back into their stupor.

Finally they arrived at the cart. A friendly face greeted them, as always, from inside and the villagers started ordering their coffee. But the friendly face did not change. WaynetheGoblin grabbed a long stick and poked Gurthang’s face—was he asleep like the rest of them? Sleepy walked to the back of the cart and opened up the door. As soon as it was fully open, Gurthang’s body fell to the ground. Sleepy called the other villagers over to look.

“Wolves,” said THE Ka, settling the wolf-Balrog dilemma. “Look,” she continued, pointing at a distinct paw print on Gurthang’s shoulder.

ALIVE:
Bergil, m. A 'Superstitious Guy.'
Rune Son of Bjarne, Traveling Cheese Juggler
Wilwarin538, f. that crazy girl who wants to be a butterfly
WaynetheGoblin. Scientist.
Sleepy Ranger. Explorer from out of town who gets stuck in Lower Tadfield.
Sotty. School teacher
Tar-ancalime. Crone.
Eonwe. Friendly undertaker.
Holbytlass, f. tanner.
Hiriel. Connoisseur of pointy objects.
THE Ka. Ophelious Philosopher.
Kitanna. Historian.

DEAD:
Malkatoj (mod) Eaten by one-winged Balrog or Wolf or Something, Night 1
AbercrombieOfRohan (backup mod) Eaten by one-winged Balrog or Wolf or Something, Night 1
Glirdan (ordinary) Shot with a 24-carat gold bullet on DAY one.
Márcolië Lamen (Shelob/Mytho) Vanished from ever having existed in Lower Tadfield on DAY one.
Gurthang (ordinary) Mauled by werewolves on NIGHT two.


IT IS NOW DAY. I shall expect your votes in in 24 hours' time (9:00 GMT-5). Remember: Any names mentioned in the death have nothing to do with anything unless they're the ones dying.

[tar-ancalime]

YesterDAY's votes, in order:

Wilwarin: tar-ancalime
Holbytlass: Glirdan
Sleepy Ranger: Glirdan
sotty: tar-ancalime
Kitanna: Sleepy Ranger
Eonwe: Wilwarin
Gurthang: DEATH
Bergil: DEATH
DEATH: Glirdan
Rune: DEATH

(WaynetheGoblin's vote for DEATH didn't count)

Received votes:

tar-ancalime (2)
Glirdan (3)
Sleepy Ranger (1)
Wilwarin (1)
DEATH (3(4, with Wayne's))

Didn't receive votes:

Hiriel
THE Ka
Kitanna
Holbytlass
Gurthang
Rune
Bergil
Eonwe
sotty
WaynetheGoblin

Didn't vote: tar-ancalime, Hiriel, Glirdan, THE Ka

Reasons for not voting:

tar-ancalime: pure stupidity (miscalculated the deadline)
Hiriel: missed the deadline
Glirdan: ???
THE Ka: ???


With so many abstentions, I'm tempted to think that at least one wolf didn't vote. Good way to stay under the radar, not leave a trail, eh?

Using that theory, either Hiriel or THE Ka is a wolf. I have no other reason to suspect either one of them, so I'm not ready yet to speculate beyond that.

[Kitanna]

Gurthang? Oh dear, must go back a read all he had said. In the meantime though. After the double lynching yesterday I went back to check out how everyone voted and this is what I came up with.

Wilwa- tar-ancalime
Holby- Glirdan
Sleepy Ranger- Glirdan (2)
Sotty- Tar-ancalime (2)
Me- Sleepy Ranger
Eonwe- Wilwa
Gurthang- Márcolië Lamen
Bergil- Marcolie Laman (2)
Wayne- Marcolie Laman (3)
Marcolie Laman- Glirdan (3)
Rune- Marcolie Laman (4)

I’m supposing since Wayne did not put his vote in the proper format it did not count.

So let’s see here. Sleepy, Bergil, and sotty all voted at a time that caused a tie. DEATH came in and broke the first round of ties with her vote for Glirdan, but then Rune came in later and retied the votes for DEATH and Glirdan, thus sealing their fates. Now what can we gather from this. At least one wolf is hiding among those that caused a tie.

Rune~ Voted late (only about ten minutes before day was about to end) You have made me a bit suspisios of Glirdan and think less ill of DEATH. Now here is a puzzle. “less suspicious of DEATH and more suspicious of Glirdan.” Now then why vote for DEATH when you could easily have prevented a double lynching.

Now here is a loose theory I have about Sleepy Ranger and sotty. They’re both wolves. They decided on night one that they would try to get a double lynching going by voting for two people who had already gotten a vote. Sleepy Ranger voted first and not long after sotty voted. They didn’t really vote early and they didn’t vote too late. So there was still time for someone to break the tie. That sort of puts a dent in my theory. So, this isn’t an incredibly good theory, but I think there is a possibility it could be true. Now this loose little theory can also work if Bergil is thrown into the mix. He too voted to make a tie…a three way tie. Though the chances of all three being wolves is slim. All wolves voting to make ties seems very bold to me on day one. But I will be watching all three very carefully from now on.

Onto Wayne. It appears his vote did not count. (unless there was a post I missed somewhere bringing Glirdan up to four votes) But judging by the time and who he voted for I am more inclined to find him innocent. Wayne voted at a time when DEATH, tar-ancalime, and Glirdan were all tied. He could easily have voted for Wilwa or Sleepy Ranger to bring it up to a four person tie. Though a four person tie would not have counted, but a tie is a tie in my book. Instead Wayne cast a vote for DEATH, bringing her out of the tie and into the lead. Now that not the best of grounds to find him innocent on, but I will move him lower on my list of suspects because of it. At least for today.

Yesterday I suspected these five people above everyone else: DEATH, Sleepy Ranger, Glirdan, Tar, and Gurthang

Three people out of that are now proven innocent. As for tar and Sleepy Ranger I will watch them both very carefully.

In order I suspect these people:
1)Rune
2)Sleepy Ranger and Sotty
3)And a distant third of Bergil

Tar-ancalime is far down on that list…at least for now. I also think there is a good chance our third wolf did not vote yesterday.

[Kitanna]

Here comes a double post!

With so many abstentions, I'm tempted to think that at least one wolf didn't vote. Good way to stay under the radar, not leave a trail, eh?
I agree and disagree with this. I admit it is a good way for wolves to stay under the rador and at least one wolf probably did not vote, but it is also very dangerous so I doubt today the wolf (if one of those people is a wolf) will miss voting again.

Now onto what I gathered from Gurthang.

Post #6 Gurthang throw out DEATH and Wayne as suspects. Clearly just baseless accussations based on previous games and occupations. Not much to be gained there.

Post #14 he comments on Glirdan's Eonwe trust. Is the first to bring up the odds being against Eonwe to be a wolf two times in a row. Also says wolves will stay away from being too loud or too quiet.

Post #16 he calls out tar on her plan of "refraining to accuse innocents". He encourages everyone to "let the accusations and defenses fly".

Post #22 calls out tar again on her jumpiness and flip-flopping. Suggests a possible Eonwe/Tar wolf strategy. Says though it is probably unlikely.

Post #34 Not much in this post. Talks about Eonwe's chances of being a wolf again. Responds to SR's problems with random, baseless accussations, saying it is a good way to start day one.

Post #37 continues to defend (if that be the right word) his reasons for suspecting Eonwe less.

Post #47 Asks for reasons from Rune and Glirdan why they suspect who they do. Mentions Glirdan and Tar as suspects. Also mentions DEATH but not in an accussing way.

Post #61 votes for DEATH.

So what can we gather from this? Well, one way to look at it is that the wolves killed Gurthang because he was no one near getting one of them and they wanted to frame up someone else. If that is the case they were trying to fram up tar or possibly Eonwe because those two Gurthang mentioned most.

Or Gurthang was hitting close to home. Which again would point to tar and Eonwe. And they figured they could fake out the village and claim a frame up. I think both theories are equally likely.

[sotty]

A mighty interesting theory you have there Kitanna and I won't just shoot it out of the water because you suggested me as a wolf. The best I can do is lay out the reasons why I did vote for Tar-ancalime in the end.

Before I casted my vote I made a post (number 42) talking about my suspicions for DEATH and at that time I was pretty sure I was going to vote for her. When I came to re-read the thread and my notes, I found that I had more points about Tar-ancalime. with it being the first day, they weren't particularly strong points but I deiced to go with the more evidence I had.

As for Sleepy and myself voting around the same time producing a tie, well I don't know what to say about that but unfortunate timing. Like you said there is a flaw in this theory because we both voted early enough for others to come along and break the two way tie. I can't speak for Sleepy as he didn't not list his reasons as to why he voted the way he did, but I was just acting on what I found in the thread and voting at a time I was ready to do so.

I also think there is a good chance our third wolf did not vote yesterday

This I agree with. Both Tar and Hiriel claimed confusion with the time which is quite believable considering I was confused on the time myself yesterday, but Hiriel made a lengthy post before the deadline and made no vote, I'm just wondering why the wait? Were you waiting for more clues? I'm not sure about THE Ka as I don't believe she posted at all yesterday so I'm hoping to hear from her/him today.

[Hiriel]

Herm. Ok! Now on the proper time.

But Hiriel made a lengthy post before the deadline and made no vote, I'm just wondering why the wait? Were you waiting for more clues?

Well, yeah, yeah I was. Maybe I'm just a horrid procrastinator, but I like to wait till the last minute, to see if anything at all comes up that could help inform my vote. I had no idea who to vote for when I made that lengthy post. I suspected DEATH, and Tar, and Glirdy, but I really doubted that I'd hit on a wolf the first go. I was waiting to see if anything else might turn up on the thread before I had to make my choice.

Will look at posts since Gurthang's death in depth first chance I get tomorrow. Alas, but reading the Comedy of Errors (hopefully won't discribe this village's voting pattern) must come first. :)

[THE Ka]

THE Ka: ???


I have an excuse, that I hope will bare with two witnesses...

This is my one and only valuable reason: I was asking both you and AOR about specific guildlines that I had not known about, so I could clear up anything when I was playing further on. In layman's terms, I'm as dumb as a doornail when it comes to this game and I wanted to at least avoid asking annoying questions every five minutes, and thus complicating the game. Plus, I thought I would have enough time to study the evidence, ponder it philosophically and delcare my vote after school activities. I was wrong, and forgot to count three hours ahead of mine own. Sorry for this absence, I have the rest of the week off so, I'll be able to contribute as best as I can. :)


-----------------

Okay, on to werewolf business. Let's see, our Gurthang died. I give my simpathy, but on to the evidence!

Post #16 he calls out tar on her plan of "refraining to accuse innocents". He encourages everyone to "let the accusations and defenses fly".

Post #22 calls out tar again on her jumpiness and flip-flopping. Suggests a possible Eonwe/Tar wolf strategy. Says though it is probably unlikely.


Quite a rigid Rationalist I see. Well, I shall have to play the Skeptic on this one, though I do not wish to travel down a Sophists' road with this. So, I won't look at too much evidence and try to stay clear of over-explanitory posts.

Post #47 Asks for reasons from Rune and Glirdan why they suspect who they do. Mentions Glirdan and Tar as suspects. Also mentions DEATH but not in an accussing way.

Post #61 votes for DEATH

Well, this leads to a contradiction due to the first post, but ideas can change... Unfortunately, this is not as believable coming from a rationalist. So, i'm not buying it. I'm agreeing to only half extent with Kitanna on this one. Either someone wants a frame, really badly with personal matters, or we have some rather elusive werewolves. Though, I do believe that the wolves might have not planned for one of theirs to not vote on an attack, the first night or second. The arguments are too juvenile in this stage, if Eonwe is a werewolf it would be rather foolish to be hot-headed and rid of a problematic player from the start. (Thus, from what that player and the 'werewolf' have said, it's a perfect frame as to who is a suspect.) Though, maybe I am over estimating all of this.

My vote is not definate until I can see more prespectives... Sorry, it's a 'big picture' thing. I don't want to leave everything out of my final, or somewhat final conclusion.


~ Ophelious Philosopher

Oh, this is making my mind spin like Kant! :D

[tar-ancalime]

Some more thoughts:

I agree with Kitanna's point about Rune's vote being worth discussing, but for a slightly different reason.

At the time Rune voted, it was not yet clear that WaynetheGoblin's vote for DEATH was not going to count. If we include his vote in the tally at the time of Rune's voting, there was already a majority for DEATH.

Therefore Rune, by voting for the person who's already got the most votes, is making a very safe move. He couldn't have known that there would be so many abstentions, so he would have had to consider that four others would be voting after him. Voting to create a tie (i.e. a wolf engineering a double lynching, as Kitanna implies) just shouldn't have worked. (Yes, even though Rune could have reasonably assumed that DEATH would vote as she did, the only way she could vote to possibly save herself--there still should have been several more votes coming.)

But voting for the person who's already got a majority, when there are still 4 voters presumably to come and "cover his tracks," is a "safe" move, an "unobtrusive" move, one which could point either to a wolf hiding in the crowd, or to an unsure villager not wanting to cast any new suspicions.

HOWEVER, as I noted above, Rune could have reasonably assumed that DEATH would vote for Glirdan as she did. Therefore, it would have been DEATH's vote that created the tie if WaynetheGoblin's vote had counted, and Rune's vote would have acted as a tiebreaker to lynch DEATH instead of Glirdan. Those two votes coming at the same instant as they did really does confuse the matter of who assumed what...

All this, which I hope isn't too tortuous, is to say that I think Rune's vote, coupled with his comment pointed out above by Kitanna (that he suspected Glirdan and possibly me more than DEATH), was interesting, important, and noteworthy.

This is NOT to say that I've got any real suspicions of Rune, though--my reasoning only works IF Rune thought Wayne's vote counted, IF Rune thought the abstainers were about to vote at the last minute, IF Rune assumed correctly that DEATH would vote for Glirdan, and IF I haven't made any logical errors.

Just throwing out ideas.

I will have to vote very early toDAY due to non-Tadfield constraints on my schedule, so I'm hoping to see some more discussion within the next few hours.

[tar-ancalime]

All right, I've got to take a deep breath and vote...on very little information.

The only thing I can even guess at is that, as I said before, a wolf abstained from voting yesterday. That means that either Hiriel or THE Ka is a suspect. Simply because Hiriel's post today made more sense to me than THE Ka's (which seemed to obscure things rather than clarify them), I'm tempted to vote for THE Ka.

But then again, who knows? I know that anything I do right now is very flimsy.

So...

++THE Ka

May Eru have mercy on my soul!

[Sleepy Ranger]

Oh my! It seems people are throwing suspicion my way. I'll try clearing some things up :)

Now my whole purpose of posting my list at the beginning was to see how people responded to a random accusation. I felt uneasy each time SR brought up thinking logically and not pointing the blame due to randomness. If we all sat around looking at opening posts and trying to find logic in them we'd be doomed. He says "We need to start somewhere..." but if we do not put some form of accusation out there (no matter how random) then we can't really start.

First of all you got the complete opposite meaning of my little 'logical thinking' rant. I am not against a bit of randomness but I said that starting from professions was ahem, stupid. What I did say was think things over before posting it, I did not say do not post I just said make sure you know what you're posting and if it makes any sense.

Not pointing out blame? Oh my, you seem to have mis-understood me. I said accuse would be a better word than blame and I said that we shouldn't randomly throw around blame...

As in- X- I bet Y is the wolf.[/b] (Thats what I'm against, I mean just saying it out. Sure if you suspect somebody but can't really put your finger on it then by all means go ahead and say I find this person suspicious but if you're going to go all out and BLAME somebody without any reason thats what I'm against.)

Moving on-
I find this to contradict itself. He says people are giving random posts for evidence that isn't there, but right away he says things today are going to be quite random. So then, why is there just a problem for random suspicions and evidence if that seems to be what day one is made of?

To me it seems you are just completely ignoring the whole fact that I made the post against accusing people because of their occupation NOT random ones...

And finally SR voted for Glirdan, for "reasons stated by other people", well which reasons? Which people? Perhaps SR is trying to start a bandwagong, seeing as there is already one vote for Glirdan.

I did not have time to put up reasons but I shall gladly do so now-
Glirdan - has been accused of trying to send Seer hints. Hinting so drastically this early is not a great idea. Wouldn't want a dead Seer on Night 2. Might be a masquerading wolf, might be the Seer, or we might be reading too much into things. Watch.
This post by Gurthy got me thinking.

Glirdan~ Because of his strange posts regarding Eonwe. Now there's a chance he is a very bold seer, but his hints toward it are very bold and very dangerous. He could be a wolf leading off his scent and trying to throw it elsewhere. (piggybacking on an innocent...) Or he really could have a strong gut feeling.
And as you yourself said Kitanna :)

And you obviously missed this part of my quote-
and because I really don't have a main suspect.
I did use a bit of randomness and now it seems strange to me, you keep telling people that I'm against randomness (Which I'm not. I'm against blaming with no reason and accusing because of occupation or some other moot detail) and then you condemn me for using a bit of randomness. This places Kitanna moderately high on my suspicions list but I don't think I'll vote for her, I want to see how things work out and perhaps do a bit of re-reading before I do make a choice.

As for band-waggoning, now thats just silly... I believe I was the third person to vote and how would 2 votes start a band-wagon? If I did want to get somebody band-waggoned I'd have stated reasons to prove their guilt rather than just going with what some others (you included) said. I needed to vote and at the time I felt Glirdan was a wolf.

Now here is a loose theory I have about Sleepy Ranger and sotty. They’re both wolves. They decided on night one that they would try to get a double lynching going by voting for two people who had already gotten a vote. Sleepy Ranger voted first and not long after sotty voted. They didn’t really vote early and they didn’t vote too late. So there was still time for someone to break the tie. That sort of puts a dent in my theory. So, this isn’t an incredibly good theory, but I think there is a possibility it could be true.

Mine was the third vote I believe so it was well before the others and how on earth would I know when Sotty or anybody else planned on voting?

Hopefully that clears somethings up. I'm a bit busy with athletics today so I won't have time to go through much but I believe there may be something to find in 3 pages of posts. :)

[Sleepy Ranger]

Sorry for the double-post but I didn't want to edit the one above.
tar's vote for THE Ka seems to have come out of the blue... I'd like to point Kitanna in tar's direction because she seems to dis-like people who vote for reasons others have stated. </sarcasm>

Ahem but seriously does anybody else find tar's vote disturbing? I mean it is rather early in the day and we don't really have much on Ka except for her not posting. I'll be keeping an eye on tar from now on.

I apologize if you find my comment offensive Kitanna. It serves no meaning except to perhaps give someone a laugh :)

[Eonwe]

i don't really find it taht weird, as of now. maybe it will chance as time moves on and the evidence mounts, if you kow waht i mean. Tar is certainly on the List, but quite a few people are, as far as im conserned.

just checking in, im be back on in like an hour or two...

[WaynetheGoblin]

Well tar vote is strange. He is now higher on my suspect list. Also poor poor gurthang he didnt stand a chanch. :(

[THE Ka]

All right, I've got to take a deep breath and vote...on very little information.

The only thing I can even guess at is that, as I said before, a wolf abstained from voting yesterday. That means that either Hiriel or THE Ka is a suspect. Simply because Hiriel's post today made more sense to me than THE Ka's (which seemed to obscure things rather than clarify them), I'm tempted to vote for THE Ka.

But then again, who knows? I know that anything I do right now is very flimsy.

So...

++THE Ka

May Eru have mercy on my soul!


No, may Berkelley have mercy on your soul...

I did not vote the other day because of time differences, and that i'm stupid. I live (obviously) in the Pacific Time Zone and I completely forgot to count three hours ahead. Instead, I was greeted by a thread saying, 'IT IS NOW NIGHT', so of course I could not vote. Another reason is that i'm stupid, and still did not grasp this game, thus I had to send messages to AbercrombieOfRohan asking about things such as votes, where do I vote, when do I vote, ect...

Yes, I was that mindless the otherday about this game.

Now, thankfully I do know how to play and am gathering facts for my final vote.

Sincerely,

~ Ka

P.S. If you are still quite confused, I would more than happy to send you originals of my messages, though I believe you may have to ask permission from AOR before doing so, since they were the other person in correspondence. Hope this helps.

[Kitanna]

Mine was the third vote I believe so it was well before the others and how on earth would I know when Sotty or anybody else planned on voting?
If you are a wolf it would be easy for you and sotty to plan it out the night before. But still that theory of mine remains loose. I have other people to look after first before you and sotty.

Now to bring up what tar-ancalime said about Rune and his vote. At the time Rune voted DEATH had given a list of votes so far, excluding Wayne's. Now of course DEATH was not the mod, but also Wayne's vote could of course been overlooked. So assuming Rune was going off of DEATH's list then he would have seen the oppurtunity of bringing about a tie. Of course that is unlikey, but there is also the possibility of him realizing Wayne's vote would not be counted due to its format.

But voting for the person who's already got a majority, when there are still 4 voters presumably to come and "cover his tracks," is a "safe" move, an "unobtrusive" move, one which could point either to a wolf hiding in the crowd, or to an unsure villager not wanting to cast any new suspicions.
I had given little thought to that. If Rune took into account Wayne's vote then he could have seen it as a chance to hide because "he had helped put DEATH in the lead." I have a gut feeling about Rune and I hope to hear from him soon.

But also tar-ancalime, I find your vote for THE Ka odd...I do not see a huge problem with voting so early. Sometimes life just gets in the way. But the fact you would vote for Ka because of her "obscuring things" is unsettling. You too missed the vote yesterday for a miscalulation of time which is what happened to Ka. One way for me to look at your reasons is that you want to throw attention off yourself because you also did not vote and some still suspect you from yesterday. Or you are at a lose for who to vote for so you picked off the list of those who did not vote.

In the next hour or so I am going to have to cast a vote because I will be gone when day ends. So do not think ill of me because of that.

[Eonwe]

let me see. there seems to be allot of people not doing allot of talking. taht would be weird, but people are prolly on different time zones. all the same, i don't like silence from anyone. becuse if you don't say anything, nothing can be held against you. perfect wolf stratagy, in my book. (nothing except not saying anything, that is ;) )

ok my List breaks down as follows.

THE Ka: a wolf would be better prepared to vote, talk, expain, etc. and she gave some real life reasoning. if that stuffs not true, you are the base master of treachery. so im willing to let her off.

Tar-ancalime: seems a bit suspicious. kind of freaked out yesterday. but that happens to newcomers to werewolf infested villages. nothing really.

Wilwarin: i'd like to hear some more from you. but i don't know waht timezone you are, so you may have very good reasons for being silent for long periods of time. i guess silence is kind of relative, because im silent to you for long periods of time, possibley. anyway....

Sleepy Ranger: i don't konwwww. i hope he isn't a wolf. he hasn't given me any reason to think so, but all the same, i watching you....

Holbytlass: i'd like to hear more from you. but the same stuff as i said about wilwarin appies here, too.

Eonwe: the only one im sure of. ;)

there seems to be allot taht we can gleen from the voting records. but not i, i must go to class...

[Holbytlass]

A bit redundent, but we all like to see things our own way. BTW, I was taught this by a lovely chap selling saucepans....

Wilwarin-->Tar-Ancalime (tar-1)
Holby-->Glirdan (tar-1, glir-1)
SleepyRanger-->Glirdan (tar-1, glir-2)
Sotty-->Tar-ancalime (tar-2, glir-2)
Kittanna-->Sleepy Ranger (tar-2, glir-2, sleep-1)
Eonwe-->Wilwarin (tar-2, glir-2, sleep-1, wil-1)
Gurthang-->Marcolie (tar-2, glir-2 sleep-1, wil-1, marc-1)
Bergil-->Marcolie (tar-2, glir-2, sleep-1, wil-1, marc-2)
Wayne-->Marcolie (doesn't count)
Marcolie-->Glirdan (tar-2, glir-3, sleep-1, wil-1, marc-2)
Rune-->Marcolie (tar-2, glir-3, sleep-1, wil-1, marc-3)

no vote: Glirdan, Tar-ancolime, Hiriel, The Ka


First to bandwagon on Glirdan (I do consider the second vote bandwaggoning, but not the most suspicious) is Sleepy Ranger, what makes it somewhat suspicious is he didn't speak of suspicions against Glirdan or anyone outright.
Marcolie did band on Glirdan, but that was to save herself and really it's a moot point cause she's dead.

First to bandwaggon on Tar is Sotty. He did voice suspicion against Tar so not that suspicios to me.

First to band on Marcolie is Bergil, never spoke of suspicions against her, only half-heartedly names three others. QUOTE: I don't suspect her in the least' but I must vote for someone'. What is the most interesting, with his vote, he made the 3 way tie. If it was so random, he could've broke the tie or voted for someone else. Bergil being a wolf, didn't care who got it. If this theory is true, then I would have to conclude that Tar-ancalime is an innocent.

Then there is Wayne: his vote that didn't count really befuddles everything that happened after. I shall give him the benefit of the doubt. Had it counted, he broke a tie that would send 2 people to their deaths, and I was confused with the voting rules, so I can't hold that against anybody else.

Third to band on Marcolie Rune: hard to really know, if he thought Wayne's counted, then broke a tie, if he knew wayne's didn't count then brought on the tie. But he did voice suspicon of Marcolie earlier.

All of this with the underestanding more votes to come, but some never did.



Suspect list:
Tar-ancalime
Hiriel
The Ka
for no votes, sorry that's automatic in my book, but not necessarily the most suspicious

Bergil
Sleepy Ranger
Rune
For reasons stated above, all can change it's still so early

[Kitanna]

So before I cast my vote I have one last thing to say about Gurthang's death. It was bothering me why Gurthang was killed, but I couldn't quite put my finger on why. Then as I was at work this morning it hit me. THE Ka. The fact Ka was not attacked is what was sitting in the back of my mind. She was a prime wolf target. She hadn't spoken yet so her death would lead us all back to square one tomorrow. But no, Ka was spared. So either we have very merciful wolves who wanted to give her a chance or Ka is a wolf herself. I am far more inclined to believe our wolves wanted to give Ka at least a chance to say something before doing her in, but I won't rule out the possibilty she is a wolf. I won't act on this theory though, not yet anyway, not until more evidence for or against Ka has come to the surface. But this is something to think about.

Now onto my vote, which I hate to cast so early, but I must.

++ Rune

I wish Rune had said something before I did this, but he has not. I said before I found Rune's vote from yesterday. Here are the two theories that have been stated about him.
A) He knew Wayne's vote wouldn't count and voted for DEATH to bring in a tie. A very wolfish thing to do.
B) He thought Wayne's vote would be counted and voted for DEATH to put her in the lead because then he'd look less suspicious when an innocent died. A very clever way of cover wolf prints.
Either theory makes Rune look bad and wolfish. But what also sets him off in my mind is the fact he suspected Glirdan more and yet in that same post he voted for DEATH. Taking into account possibilties A and B it still gives Rune a less than flattering image in my eyes.
Also Gurthang would have been a wise choice for Rune to attack at night. Gurthang mentioned him only once and it was to ask for reasons for his suspects. So a decision to kill Gurthang would leave no trail to Rune.

I'll be floating around for a little while longer to see what else happens.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Hey sorry I have not postet before, but things have been kind of crazy here.

Since most people votet randomly or on very loose suspisions, it is hard to tell that much.

I have not found anything in Gurthy's posts that point in one direction, but it would properly not have been tar-ancalime who is a wolf becourse she was one of his main suspects. (the other was DEATH and we were wrong about it!)

Well I have to go, but will return in 2 houres or so.

[Sleepy Ranger]

what makes it somewhat suspicious is he didn't speak of suspicions against Glirdan or anyone outright.

Post #88 explains my reasons. And as to why I didn't speak of suspicions is because I lacked them. It is very hard to get a suspect on Day 1 and sometimes even Day 2. Because things can be a bit uneasy in the beginning and having a clear of view of things can be hard. I don't really like voicing suspicions, I prefer to keep them to myself until I can get a decent backing to it. If its just a gut feeling I'd rather ignore it lest it lead to in-fighting and setting alight tempers. I mean if we end up fighting amongst ourselves it'll be easier for the wolves to walk away with it. Though I do let people know who I suspect I don't go all out and accuse them and most of the time I just say something like I've got my eye on you.

Now I'm not saying don't suspect or post those suspicions I was just telling you why I don't post them. As for considering a second vote band-waggoning...well I guess its upto how you see it. As for myself I've never really paid much attention to band-waggoning and I'll vote for whom I believe to be a wolf... In Glirdan's case there was a bit of randomness but I daresay you wouldn't have liked it even more if I hadn't voted.

After reading Kitanna's posts and reading through Rune's posts I believe he may be a wolf and his reply doesn't really help him much.

[THE Ka]

Well, let's see here...

Starting from the beginning, there seems to be at least three distinct relations and votes between players, two of them, I believe are in some way related. As for the other, it's most likely going to boil over into whichever of the first two prove victorious. So, we have two battling and one watching, simply put.

One and two share a suspect, Marcolie, but we have Rune on one reasoning, and Bergil on another. Plus, we have Marcolie voting for Glirdan, who is also voted for by Sleepy.

First to bandwagon on Glirdan (I do consider the second vote bandwaggoning, but not the most suspicious) is Sleepy Ranger, what makes it somewhat suspicious is he didn't speak of suspicions against Glirdan or anyone outright.


I am not going to outright make a statement as to if SR is a wolf or not, but possibly since it was very early in the game, as a voter you would have to pick something that wouldn't be too confusing with the already established vote. Or, someone else is pushing the envelope on this turn out for Glirdan, possibly to cover up another voting plan (?).

First to band on Marcolie is Bergil, never spoke of suspicions against her, only half-heartedly names three others. QUOTE: I don't suspect her in the least' but I must vote for someone'. What is the most interesting, with his vote, he made the 3 way tie. If it was so random, he could've broke the tie or voted for someone else. Bergil being a wolf, didn't care who got it. If this theory is true, then I would have to conclude that Tar-ancalime is an innocent.


Possibly, if something was so random it shouldn't have been so well planned in the way it fell in the concluding count. Either that, as I've mentioned before, there is possibly another voting plan that is in place, but it needs one of the bigger ones to get out of the way first, ect. So, one is true and the other vote isn't, plus we have the other voting plan (most likely werewolf induced) waiting.
So, it's just a choosing of the blue pill or red pill, really.

I'm seeing a reasonable account with the Wayne theory, since with it being the first day and having voting problems (I was another one) usually was a believable answer. Because of this, I believe it pro-longed one of the voting plans, and thus made Rune's vote fall as it did. Since, from what i've read Rune voted possibly before Wayne, though I might be reading it wrong.

One way for me to look at your reasons is that you want to throw attention off yourself because you also did not vote and some still suspect you from yesterday. Or you are at a lose for who to vote for so you picked off the list of those who did not vote.


Doesn't everyone... But, voting problems and time calculations seemed to be rather reasonable the first day of voting. Plus, there is the pressure of declaring a vote, then diving in and hoping your won't drown under a big miscalculation that will immediately throw you into the hot pan of suspicion. But, then again, if you don't vote, your only chance at getting off the suspicion list is to pick a fellow non-voter, since this can be seen as a 'reasonable' vote that the person could be a werewolf, ect. When it doesn't work is when we are able to clear away non-voters through their reasoning. Anyone left who hasn't taken in the opportunity to do so is still on this list, and thus a suspect again.

Non-voting the first night as I have been able to guess was due to two reasons:

- New players unsure of voting, time zone miscalculations, first night pressure, ect.

- Early werewolf tactics and voting plans. The most agreed upon theory of finding out possible suspects (ex. 'werewolf in the crowd').

Now ,the second night should be more reasonable and clear away at least the first reason i've put. If it doesn't I would hold suspicions as well.

Oh, the choices... But ,from looking at evidence supplied by people and themselves, I'm going to cast my vote.

Rune's vote is rather suspicions because either they knew Wayne was going to vote one way or another, or they took advantage of the moment. Plus, there is the fact as to if and when they voted after or before Wayne. It's too shady for me, and I still have alot of confusions about these three voting plans, but I need to stake a vote now, before I spend too much time thinking as I almost did before.

After reading Kit's really helpful posts and everyone else's, (I hate jumping to conclusions, but it's just too early in the game) I am going to have to go with this, because it holds the most evidence:

++ Rune



Sincerely, with most thoughfulness,

Ka

[Kitanna]

To everyone: Don't forget to write VOTE as your title. *looks at Ka and tar* That way we avoid another problem like we need with Wayne's vote yesterday.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Ok, before you all go asuming I am some sort of fanged fuzzball, I would like to say something.

It seems that you nomather why I votet for Death I am a wolf.

This is very odd I think, why should a wolf do both?

I am very sorry I dont see these evidence of what you speek. . . Surly a wolf would not vote for a dubbel lynch this would draw atention to one. Bandwagoning is neither the ideal thing to do for a wolf. (at least not in the first day.) It would be much more safe to vote for one not to be killed.

I will just remind you that I postet at same time as Death and did not know her vote.

I yes I said that I thought less ill of Death, but I truely did not know who to vote for so I went with my first impresion.

If youre still suspesios then post them and i will try to answer when I can.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Since both my computer and internet are acting up I will vote now in case I am unable to later.

++Rune

Because he seems to be the most likely to be a wolf at the moment.

Surly a wolf would not vote for a dubbel lynch this would draw atention to one. Bandwagoning is neither the ideal thing to do for a wolf. (at least not in the first day.) It would be much more safe to vote for one not to be killed.

Did you not say you cross-posted and at that time you would have been breaking the tie? So saying that a double-lynch would draw attention to a wolf has nothing to do with this matter. It just makes you all the more suspicious in my mind to first say that you cross-posted and then say why a double-lynch wouldn't be a good wolfish tactic.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Did you not say you cross-posted and at that time you would have been breaking the tie? So saying that a double-lynch would draw attention to a wolf has nothing to do with this matter. It just makes you all the more suspicious in my mind to first say that you cross-posted and then say why a double-lynch wouldn't be a good wolfish tactic.

I was making a point about the so called evidence! Witch convinesly makes me a wolf no matter what.

[Hiriel]

Hokay. Took me a while to get on, but I should have some time now. Herm...curious things abound in Lower Tadfield. Tar is being very, very suspicious in my mind, and his vote for the KA befuddles me, but as so many people voiced suspicion of Rune, I'll look at him first.

I am very sorry I dont see these evidence of what you speek. . . Surly a wolf would not vote for a dubbel lynch this would draw atention to one. Bandwagoning is neither the ideal thing to do for a wolf. (at least not in the first day.) It would be much more safe to vote for one not to be killed.

Rune, forgive me if I'm wrong, but wolves love double lynchings when a wolf isn't headed for the noose. It kills more villagers, and the object for the wolves is to kill us all. Bandwagoning, too, is something wolves love, and if done sparingly, can keep them under the radar. Your last sentence was a little unclear to me, sorry, if you could clear that up, I'd be obliged. And as Sleepy said, it's not really relevent.

'I was making a point about the so called evidence! Witch convinesly makes me a wolf no matter what.

Rune, that's not true. It could be that you thought Wayne's vote did count, and thought to make a clear lead so as to avoid a double lynching. But since you conceed there's no way out for you...I dunno what to think.

Eek. Couldn't get as much time as I thought. Hopefully, I'll get more time to disect the rest of what's gone on, but I might just have to post a quick vote in the nick of time.

[sotty]

Wow a Rune wagon so soon! To be honest I never saw this coming I was thinking over who seemed most suspicious to me and Rune wasn't even on my list. With this evidence that is being brought up by Tar and Kitanna I feel I need to go back and have a re-read and a think. Before I do that, I want to air my suspicions for the day.

The first one is Hiriel. I mentioned yesterday that there was something about his posts that made me uneasy and today I'm still not able to quite put my finger on it. It might be purely down to the fact that he used the word blame back in post 19. He later apologizes for this saying-

Oh also: some people have brought up my usage of blame. The honest answer for why I wrote that word is that it's shorter and easier to spell than accuse. The two are basic synonyms, and I wasn't thinking about the negative connotations the former might have as opposed to the latter. I meant nothing sinister or to encourage random mob lynches by it. Sorry.

This I can accept. Being a dyslexic myself (yes a dyslexic school teacher, how ironic huh?) I often use smaller words that have the same or similar meaning rather than the word I actually mean. But when I questioned him on his big post and no vote, he says this-

Well, yeah, yeah I was. Maybe I'm just a horrid procrastinator, but I like to wait till the last minute, to see if anything at all comes up that could help inform my vote. I had no idea who to vote for when I made that lengthy post. I suspected DEATH, and Tar, and Glirdy, but I really doubted that I'd hit on a wolf the first go. I was waiting to see if anything else might turn up on the thread before I had to make my choice.

I feel that waiting until the last moment is a very wolfish thing to do. For one you get to see how everyone has voted so you can see how best to place your vote. You can judge on where would be the best place for your vote, instead of using evidence at your disposal. You can even save a fellow wolf from the noose, although that might be a little toooo oblivious but the possibility is still there. With it being the first day we all had very little to go on (expect the seer of course) and so all of our reasons to vote were full of holes so I really don't see how waiting until the last minute helps in anyway.

The second person I have even less to go on and it's Bergil. This is the part of Kitannas' theory I can believe.

++Marcolie "DEATH" Laman

I don't suspect her in the least' but I must vote for someone.

He places a random vote right after Gurthang who by the way also votes for DEATH. He also claims it is a random vote in the title, a random vote that just so happens to occur right after someone else voted for the same person and make it a three way tie? Bearing in mind at the that time we did not know that a three way tie would not count and only two would be lynched. That just makes me go hmmmmm......

I just wanted to get some feed back on these ideas, if anyone else has similar thoughts. I am defiantly in no position to jump on to Rune right now but I will read and give some thought to it

P.S – for future reference I am indeed a she :D

[Eonwe]

The only thing i can think of against rune is the double lynching. Marcolie and Rune double posted, and were both trying to break the tie. Maroclie's actions were pure, as she was proven inncenct. We can conclude that if Rune is a wolf, than tar is probaly a wolf, because marc, glirdan and tar were tied. marc and glirdan were innocent, so rune would be saveing tar by voting marc. if you follow what im saying (sorry for being confusing). but rune isn't proved a wolf yet, and for my part, im willing to let him of on a cross posting error....for now...

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

It seems that Kitanna is the one who wants me dead and what ever I do she belives I am Wolf. You decide who that incriminates the most. . .

Rune came in later and retied the votes for DEATH and Glirdan, thus sealing their fates. Now what can we gather from this. At least one wolf is hiding among those that caused a tie.

Rune~ Voted late (only about ten minutes before day was about to end)
Quote:
You have made me a bit suspisios of Glirdan and think less ill of DEATH.
Now here is a puzzle. “less suspicious of DEATH and more suspicious of Glirdan.” Now then why vote for DEATH when you could easily have prevented a double lynching.


I wish Rune had said something before I did this, but he has not. I said before I found Rune's vote from yesterday. Here are the two theories that have been stated about him.
A) He knew Wayne's vote wouldn't count and voted for DEATH to bring in a tie. A very wolfish thing to do.
B) He thought Wayne's vote would be counted and voted for DEATH to put her in the lead because then he'd look less suspicious when an innocent died. A very clever way of cover wolf prints.
Either theory makes Rune look bad and wolfish. But what also sets him off in my mind is the fact he suspected Glirdan more and yet in that same post he voted for DEATH. Taking into account possibilties A and B it still gives Rune a less than flattering image in my eyes.
Also Gurthang would have been a wise choice for Rune to attack at night. Gurthang mentioned him only once and it was to ask for reasons for his suspects. So a decision to kill Gurthang would leave no trail to Rune.Now to bring up what tar-ancalime said about Rune and his vote. At the time Rune voted DEATH had given a list of votes so far, excluding Wayne's. Now of course DEATH was not the mod, but also Wayne's vote could of course been overlooked. So assuming Rune was going off of DEATH's list then he would have seen the oppurtunity of bringing about a tie. Of course that is unlikey, but there is also the possibility of him realizing Wayne's vote would not be counted due to its format.

I am sorry if I have confused you earlyer, I will now try to make up for that!

There is no point in me, why I votet DEATH I allready told that. Let me tell you how little chance I had to know I was causing a dubbel lynch:

1. I did cross post and I did not know of the tie.
2. There was Wayens post witch none could know would not count !
3. Glirdan had a vote! It never accurd to me that a person with a chance too save him self would choose not too! (unless the cobbler)


Still I do not see my vote as a safe vote for a wolf! Some statet earlyer that a wolf would proberbly start bandwagoning, then a total anomynus vote would be more clever. This way I would stay in the shadows!

Kitana points me out becourse I had no conection to Gurthang, well that goes for like everybody! It seems like she realy wants me death.

either because she has fanges or she simply dislikes me !

[Bergil]

firstly, people have pointed out that my vote made it a 3-way tie last night. I cross-posted with Gurthang, when I typed that up Marcolie had no votes. Secondly, I suspect WayneTheGoblin because it's possible that his vote didn't count on purpose, So he could break a 3-way tie while leaving it unbroken. Draw your own conclusions on both arguments.

[sotty]

On the Rune issue and looking back at the actual times votes were casted this could all just be a misunderstanding

Wayne voted at 7.46pm
DEATH voted at 7.49pm
Rune voted at 7.49pm

The times I quote are in my timezone so most peoples will be different, but the key here is the minutes. Isn't it quite possible that they all just cross posted? If that is the case then this theory looses some weight. -

A) He knew Wayne's vote wouldn't count and voted for DEATH to bring in a tie. A very wolfish thing to do.
B) He thought Wayne's vote would be counted and voted for DEATH to put her in the lead because then he'd look less suspicious when an innocent died. A very clever way of cover wolf prints.
Either theory makes Rune look bad and wolfish. But what also sets him off in my mind is the fact he suspected Glirdan more and yet in that same post he voted for DEATH. Taking into account possibilities A and B it still gives Rune a less than flattering image in my eyes.

But what if he didn't see DEATHs or Waynes vote? Then none of the above apply.(accept the statement about Glirdan)

But voting for the person who's already got a majority, when there are still 4 voters presumably to come and "cover his tracks," is a "safe" move, an "unobtrusive" move, one which could point either to a wolf hiding in the crowd, or to an unsure villager not wanting to cast any new suspicions.

This point on the other hand by Tar is quite true. Rune could have easily voted DEATH and viewed it as a safe vote. Personally I doubt I will be voting Rune based purely on that fact, I believe there are others more worthy of my suspicions and votes today. Do not read this post wrong, I am not claiming Rune to be innocent at all. I am just suggesting that most of the evidence against him could all just be circumstantial. Rune is still on my watch list after the "safe" vote but I cannot find any other evidence to use against him.

Bergil defended himself, all be it briefly and I have still yet to hear from Hiriel and my vote will probably end up on him

[wilwarin538]

Sorry for my absence. I was very busy today. I admit my vote is somewhat bandwagoning, but I rather that then not voting at all.

++Rune

if you are innocent, no hard feelings I hope.

[Bergil]

++WayneTheGoblin

before I forget. and remember, think before you vote. it'is a sad day for independance in Lower Taadfield, with all this bandwaggoning. Our dead population would not approve. I've asked them using my ouija board.

edit: I didn't really ask, that was an in-caracter comment.

[Kitanna]

In an amazing turn of events I made it on before day ended.
It seems that Kitanna is the one who wants me dead and what ever I do she belives I am Wolf. You decide who that incriminates the most. . .
I realize I am putting everything on the line if Rune turns out to be innocent, but I feel so confident toward his wolfishness that I'm going to do it and fight and defend my standpoint. If for some reason he is innocent I know the entire village will look to me. But I feel so certain he is a wolf I am willing to risk it.

[Hiriel]

Herm..Can't get on for any length of time, so, appologies. But I don't want to miss another vote again. It seems as though Rune has his own wagon now. I suspect him, but not enough to vote for him, and I am started to get a little suspicious of Kitana's attacks on him. That could just be Rune's frantic efforts to blame her and save himself, but I dunno. I'll be very interested to see what happens tonight and who Rune turns out to be, and by then I should have some good theories about who has a hairy complex. If Rune indeed is a wolf, it'll be a good justification of my gut paranoia, but also detramental to me, because I didn't vote the first day and didn't vote for a wolf the next. But I'm just not sure enough, and I'd rather not bandwagon. So, because I'm not sure enough about Rune, my vote goes to

++ Tar Ancalime

On account of his sudden, odd vote for KA, and my general suspecion carried over from Day I.

"P.S – for future reference I am indeed a she
So am I. :D

[sotty]

I realize I am putting everything on the line if Rune turns out to be innocent, but I feel so confident toward his wolfishness that I'm going to do it and fight and defend my standpoint. If for some reason he is innocent I know the entire village will look to me. But I feel so certain he is a wolf I am willing to risk it.

I myself will be in the same boat if Rune turns out to be a wolf after I made some points against your theory Kitanna. If your are so certain, then so be it, sometimes you just have gut feelings towards people that you just cannot shake and if there is any evidence towards that fact then the feeling just gets stronger. On that note I will

++ Hiriel

For waiting so long to vote that she missed the deadline.

[Eonwe]

well, allots happened. i need to read through, and draw some conclutions. i strongly discourage teh Rune Bandwagon. Kitanna, i don't think you really have much of a case. i know i've caused a double lynching by cross posting, and its pretty obvious that rune cross posted. so...taht's all for now, be back later with something of more value.

votes stand:

THE Ka: 1
Rune: 4
Wayne:1
Hiriel: 1
Tar: 1

so we have four left, if i count a-right.

ps. hiriel, all this time i thought you were a guy! oops, sorry. :o

[Holbytlass]

I didn't take into account timing of votes ( :rolleyes: at myself), as far as the votes it looks better for Rune. I shall vote

++Sleepy Ranger

[Eonwe]

my goodness, there just isn't much to go on. I don't have strong feelings on any of our candidates for the noose. Ill go with
++KITANNA
because i don't like the way she is gunning for Rune. Like i said, i don't think there is much of a case left.

I don't like the bandwagon that formed for Rune. It was entirely unnecessary to kill him with four votes. I'll put the first three taht voted for him on my high suspect list. because i think that that is a safe place to hide your wolfish vote. not the end, taht would be too much bandwagoning and too suspicious for a wolf to try, i think.

grrr. i don't know why i play werewolf, its to confusing and conveluted...just kidding, im guess im a complusive werewolfer.

ps. thanks rune

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

You have to put the ++name in a sepperate line Eonwe. If you want it to count that is.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

++Kitanna
just becouse I can ! ! !

Well not only am I dead, I expect that you al will do a happy dance on my remainings just to mock me! Where after you burn me too a tine crisp and scatter me across town!

[malkatoj]

~~~~~TIME!!!!! ~~~~~

Expect Rune's death shortly.

[malkatoj]

The villagers gathered in the square yet again, hoping tonight that they would kill a wolf and not lose one of their own. After some discussion, they settled on Rune Son of Bjarne. His traveling ways made them suspicious.

“But how to kill a traveling cheese juggler?” they all wondered. They sat for a long time, pondering their dilemma—not whom to kill, but how. Until finally…

“Well, bombs are fairly accurate,” ventured Wilwarin. “We could build a bomb and then drop it on him. So he’d die.” The rest of the village agreed and turned to look at Wayne, who stared back at them, wondering about his task.

“Wayne, you must bring us…a Tactical Nuke!” they told him, in unison.

“But that’ll kill us all!” he protested.

“Well, then, Mr Scientist, you’ll have to find a way to keep us alive.”

“We could…ummmm…lie on the floor. With paper bags over our heads. If we do that, then a bomb won’t kill us.” The villagers agreed and Wayne set off to complete his mission. Just then, Sotty stepped forward.

“Well, excuse me, villagers, but it seems that we’d like to have him in the right place. We’ll need some kind of an attraction for him. I was just thinking, well, I could have my students hold a cheese-juggling contest. It would be sure to draw him,” she said. After they consented, she added another part to her plan. “I just realized, wouldn’t it make sense for the bomb to be made of cheese? It could at least look like it is. My younger students could make a giant cheese to go around it,” she volunteered. The villagers applauded the ideas and the children set to work immediately on the cheese contest and costume.

Meanwhile, Wayne was finishing up with the bomb. When the students came with the cheese costume for it, they applied it and prepared for the death.

Rune was winning the cheese-juggling contest by far, as none of the students had any experience in juggling cheese. When he was announced the winner, the Tactical Cheese Nuke was rolled down the hill to him under the guise of a trophy. The rest of the villagers ran away and put paper bags on their heads, but they heard the explosion.

They stood up one by one and went to look for remains of Rune’s body. Nobody found anything, until finally…

“A tail,” said Tar-ancalime. “People don’t have tails.”

The villagers, at this point, knew that they had indeed killed a wolf. They all went home and lived happily ever after…until TOMORROW.

ALIVE:
Bergil, m. A 'Superstitious Guy.'
Wilwarin538, f. that crazy girl who wants to be a butterfly
WaynetheGoblin. Scientist.
Sleepy Ranger. Explorer from out of town who gets stuck in Lower Tadfield.
Sotty. School teacher
Tar-ancalime. Crone.
Eonwe. Friendly undertaker.
Holbytlass, f. tanner.
Hiriel. Connoisseur of pointy objects.
THE Ka. Ophelious Philosopher.
Kitanna. Historian.

DEAD:
Malkatoj (mod) Eaten by one-winged Balrog or Wolf or Something, Night 1
AbercrombieOfRohan (backup mod) Eaten by one-winged Balrog or Wolf or Something, Night 1
Glirdan (ordinary) Shot with a 24-carat gold bullet on DAY one.
Márcolië Lamen (Shelob/Mytho) Vanished from ever having existed in Lower Tadfield on DAY one.
Gurthang (ordinary) Mauled by werewolves on NIGHT two.
Rune Son of Bjarne (wolf) Blasted to shreds by a Tactical Cheese Nuke, DAY two.

**please note that names mentioned in the deaths have nothing to do with anything unless they're the names of the people who died**


IT IS NOW NIGHT. I need a name from the wolves, seer, hunter and ranger by 9:00 GMT-5 tomorrow (That's 1 AM GMT).

[malkatoj]

Once upon a time, in a far away land called Lower Tadfield, there were three wolves. But one of them died so there were only two. And it wasn't far away, either. It was right here. Actually, this is a true story.

So one night, these wolves decided to kill someone. More specifically, they decided to kill Kitanna. Kitanna was the ranger. The villagers were very sad. The end.

Moral of the story: don't have wolves in your town.

More important Moral of the Story: Don't let both your mod and backup mod get sick at the same time so they're both too tired to write up an actual death.

ALIVE:
Bergil, m. A 'Superstitious Guy.'
Wilwarin538, f. that crazy girl who wants to be a butterfly
WaynetheGoblin. Scientist.
Sleepy Ranger. Explorer from out of town who gets stuck in Lower Tadfield.
Sotty. School teacher
Tar-ancalime. Crone.
Eonwe. Friendly undertaker.
Holbytlass, f. tanner.
Hiriel. Connoisseur of pointy objects.
THE Ka. Ophelious Philosopher.

DEAD:
Malkatoj (mod) Eaten by one-winged Balrog or Wolf or Something, Night 1
AbercrombieOfRohan (backup mod) Eaten by one-winged Balrog or Wolf or Something, Night 1
Glirdan (ordinary) Shot with a 24-carat gold bullet on DAY one.
Márcolië Lamen (Shelob/Mytho) Vanished from ever having existed in Lower Tadfield on DAY one.
Gurthang (ordinary) Mauled by werewolves on NIGHT two.
Rune Son of Bjarne (wolf) Blasted to shreds by a Tactical Cheese Nuke, DAY two.
Kitanna (ranger) Killed...eaten? by wolves, NIGHT three.


IT IS NOW DAY. Wolves, stop PMing. I'll expect your votes in 24 hours' time.

[WaynetheGoblin]

Well this sucks. Now we lost are only chanch of protection. Kittana tried her best to protect us but she didnt protect her self.

[THE Ka]

Well this sucks. Now we lost are only chanch of protection. Kittana tried her best to protect us but she didnt protect her self.


Oh dear...

Well, before I knew that she was our ranger I could see why the wolves voted for her specifically...

Which gives me some good advice as to how I should conduct my arguments next time... http://e.deviantart.com/emoticons/m/movingon.gif http://e.deviantart.com/emoticons/t/teleport.gif

It's a great loss... As I can imagine it was for the wolves as well...

~ Ka

[sotty]

I was pretty convinced that Kitanna was our seer after she was so right about Rune but loosing our Ranger is still a very sad loss. There is no one but the Hunter left to protect out poor village now. :(

I think Kitanna might have pegged more than one wolf in this list of hers

In order I suspect these people:
1)Rune
2)Sleepy Ranger and Sotty
3)And a distant third of Bergil

Tar-ancalime is far down on that list…at least for now. I also think there is a good chance our third wolf did not vote yesterday.

That could be the reason why she was selected for the kill, that or they thought like me that she was the seer. I understand that I am also on this list and I'm sure after my post pointing out the flaws in Kitanna's, Rune theory many people will be looking my way today. At the time I made that post I wasn't solely convinced (doh!) of Rune's guilt and I wanted to try and protect the village from the loss of another innocent. Turns out I was completely wrong and now my good intentions might just land me in hot water.

[tar-ancalime]

YesterDAY's voting, in order:

tar-ancalime: THE Ka (THE Ka, 1)
Kitanna: Rune (THE Ka, 1; Rune, 1)
THE Ka: Rune (Rune, 2; THE Ka, 1)
Sleepy Ranger: Rune (Rune, 3; THE Ka, 1)
Wilwarin: Rune (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1)
Bergil: Wayne (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1)
Hiriel: tar-ancalime (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1; tar-ancalime, 1)
sotty: Hiriel (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1; tar-ancalime, 1; Hiriel, 1)
Holbytlass: Sleepy Ranger (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1; tar-ancalime, 1; Hiriel, 1; Sleepy Ranger, 1)
Eonwe: Kitanna (Rune, 4; Kitanna, 1; five others, 1 each)
Rune: Kitanna (Rune, 4; Kitanna, 2; five others, 1 each)

(I didn't find a "vote" post from WaynetheGoblin--did I miss it? If so I apologize.)

Some thoughts, based solely on the voting:

An easy conclusion to jump to is that Eonwe is also a wolf; however, voting late for Kitanna, only to maul her that NIGHT, seems awfully bold to me. Eonwe is either an uncommonly bold wolf, or a convenient patsy.

Perhaps unfortunately for us innocents, Rune's fate was sealed (or nearly so) relatively early in the DAY. That gave the other two wolves plenty of time and opportunity to vote for others without establishing a particular pattern.

Let's look at the votes of the post-Rune voting crowd:

Bergil votes for Wayne, citing suspicions of Wayne's non-vote on DAY 1. (Posts 109 and 112)

Hiriel votes for tar-ancalime, citing suspicions of tar-ancalime's vote for THE Ka, as well as lingering doubts from DAY 1 (Post 114)

sotty votes for Hiriel, citing a gut feeling, as well as doubts based on Hiriel's missing the vote on DAY 1. (post 115) Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this brings us to one vote each for those who didn't vote on DAY 1. (My vote, while pre-Rune for scheduling reasons, falls into this category as well. I needed to choose someone who missed the vote on DAY one, based on my theory that one of those was a wolf. I had no real compelling reason to choose THE Ka instead of Hiriel, as I stated in my post.)

Holbytlass votes for Sleepy Ranger, without giving a reason (Post 117)

Eonwe votes for Kitanna, because of Kitanna's suspicion of Rune (Post 118)

Rune votes for Kitanna for obvious reasons.

What does this tell us? Again, that Eonwe is either a bold wolf or an unfortunate innocent. That other than Rune, we as a village had no strong inclinations yesterDAY. That Wayne (again, correct me if I'm wrong) is the only villager to have no votes count at all for DAYS 1 and 2.

I'm at a loss.

[THE Ka]

What does this tell us? Again, that Eonwe is either a bold wolf or an unfortunate innocent. That other than Rune, we as a village had no strong inclinations yesterDAY. That Wayne (again, correct me if I'm wrong) is the only villager to have no votes count at all for DAYS 1 and 2.


... And yet they are capable of posting right after the second night.

Hmm... Maybe Wayne's votes are just rather elusive and no one's counting them right, or suspisions are abound. Though, maybe it is just forgetting to put 'Vote' in the title, which some of us newcomers to the game did yesterday at first. If so, then remember to put 'Vote' in this time. If this wasn't the reason I have no choice, but to hold some suspision.

~ Ka

[sotty]

That was something I forgot to ask, Wayne please talk more! We have no idea who you suspect or what you think, all inputs are needed I feel so don't be afraid to chip with more than one or two lines a post.

[tar-ancalime]

Forgot to add in my last post:

THE Ka's relatively early vote for Rune yesterDAY makes me think now that she (he?) is innocent. At the time of the vote, the only other votes were for THE Ka and Rune. If both THE Ka and Rune were wolves, why not try to throw suspicions elsewhere, instead of adding to the troubles of a fellow wolf so early?

[Sleepy Ranger]

Hmm yea THE Ka's early vote does make her look innocent but she might have thought that its still early so it could still go either way and if it did she could change her vote but after seeing how the situation ended up she decided to stick with her vote. Of course this theory is highly unlikely so I believe that THE Ka is innocent.

At the moment I find Wayne to be highly suspicious and heres something Sotty posted.

Wayne voted at 7.46pm
DEATH voted at 7.49pm
Rune voted at 7.49pm

Now it could have been that they all just cross-posted but it could also have been that they were wolves and had decided a common time to vote so it would look like they just cross-posted. Now seeing how Death is dead and innocent and Rune is dead and a wolf. Also both Rune AND Wayne voted for the same person, perhaps Wayne messed up his vote by mistake and they had planned on band-waggoning. Now I know this theory has a lot of holes but it caught my eye and Wayne does seem to be upto something.

Also I request the seer to drop some hints if possible.
And Holbytlass are you still sticking to your band-waggoning theory or did you just vote for no reason?

[WaynetheGoblin]

Well I see someone wants me to post more. My suspcions are on one person bergil. He voted for me when he knew that rune was going to die. I think he tried to protect rune. I didnt vote for rune because when I wanted to the voting was closed. I would have voted for him.

[wilwarin538]

Well I see someone wants me to post more

Actually we all want you to post more, and not just more posts, but more in your posts. I might vote for you just out of anoyance.

We lost our Ranger, thats not good at all. I think the wolves had no idea that Kit was the Ranger, they probably only chose her because they wanted revenge for the loss of Rune.

So the wolves got lucky. Lets just hope toDay is the villager's turn to get lucky.

My thoughts on everyone left:

Bergil not to sure bout him, will be kepping my eyes on him though
Wilwarin538 innocent
WaynetheGoblin rather annoying, suspicious in my eyes
Sleepy Ranger not sure about him eather, he's gotten suspicion I believe, watching him
Sotty I don't find him to suspicious
Tar-ancalime seems very helpful, I trust her
Eonwe I personally have a bad feeling about him, though he does help, not sure
Holbytlass, f. I'm thinking she is innocent, but again still watching her
Hiriel. not sure at all
THE Ka. also not sure, inclined to think she's innocent

So those are my thoughts. I will be back in about 5 hours.

[Holbytlass]

And Holbytlass are you still sticking to your band-waggoning theory or did you just vote for no reason?
When I went to vote there were so many votes already for Rune. I like to see votes spread out some and so I went with Sleepy Ranger since I had some suspicions to begun with. Unfortunately, I didn't check out the rest of the voting and didn't see the votes already spread so much. Had I seen that, I would have re-evaluate the ones already voted for and perhaps placed my vote differently.

The second DAY is not much better than the first, so suspicions (for me) aren't that much more concrete, I'm glad the village got lucky and nailed a wolf, not glad the wolves got lucky and nailed the ranger.

Onto re-evaluating everyone.......

[THE Ka]

THE Ka's early vote does make her look innocent but she might have thought that its still early so it could still go either way


Eh, somewhat. it really was because I was going through paranoia due to the time zone differences... I knew if I continued longer, or decided to change my vote and support my reasoning for changing, that it most likely would not make it in time. So, I started early in a hope that it would at least make the vote in time.

~ Ka

[tar-ancalime]

My suspicions of Eonwe are growing as I continue to read over the posts from YesterDAY.

Eonwe tries to make it look like Kitanna led a crusade against Rune, when in fact Kitanna made all of her posts early in the DAY. She repeatedly asked for Rune to defend himself. Others who voted for Rune cited Kitanna's posts as influential to them, but I think that Rune's increasingly defensive rebuttals are more telling than Kitanna's original posts. He made all of his comments after Kitanna stopped posting. I don't even think all of Rune's comments were directed at Kitanna--I think he was speaking to the later voters who were still online.

Eonwe wrote:

i strongly discourage teh Rune Bandwagon. Kitanna, i don't think you really have much of a case.

and then:

my goodness, there just isn't much to go on. I don't have strong feelings on any of our candidates for the noose. Ill go with
++KITANNA
because i don't like the way she is gunning for Rune. Like i said, i don't think there is much of a case left.

I'd hardly call Kitanna's posts "gunning for Rune." Before settling on Rune, she put forth several theories, including some (wholly unfounded, of course!) suspicions of me.

I'm definitely not ready to vote yet, but here are my current feelings:

Eonwe: I'm quite suspicious of yesterDAY's posts
Wayne: a little suspicious, because his posts generally don't tell us much
THE Ka: I'm almost sure she's innocent
Sleepy Ranger: probably innocent (due to vote for Rune)
Wilwarin: probably innocent (due to vote for Rune)
Bergil: probably innocent (gut feeling)
Hiriel: not sure
Holbytlass and sotty: I don't have a strong feeling one way or the other

I look forward to reading some more comments and revising this list.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Wilwarin: probably innocent (due to vote for Rune)

She did vote at a point where it seemed that Rune would definately be the one getting lynched so I'm not sure about her. She could be innocent but I don't think so, she has been kinda quiet.

[Bergil]

I suspect WayneTheGoblin more then ever for 3 reasons. 1, the aforementioned non-vote. 2, I can't think of any sort of connection between him and poor Kiatanna. 3, I don't think anyone before me who really suspected him and he over-reacted to my vote, accusing me. draw your own conclusions, but I've already drawn mine.

[Holbytlass]

Day 1
Wilwarin-->Tar-Ancalime (tar-1)
Holby-->Glirdan (tar-1, glir-1)
SleepyRanger-->Glirdan (tar-1, glir-2)
Sotty-->Tar-ancalime (tar-2, glir-2)
Kittanna-->Sleepy Ranger (tar-2, glir-2, sleep-1)
Eonwe-->Wilwarin (tar-2, glir-2, sleep-1, wil-1)
Gurthang-->Marcolie (tar-2, glir-2 sleep-1, wil-1, marc-1)
Bergil-->Marcolie (tar-2, glir-2, sleep-1, wil-1, marc-2)
Wayne-->Marcolie (doesn't count)
Marcolie-->Glirdan (tar-2, glir-3, sleep-1, wil-1, marc-2)
Rune-->Marcolie (tar-2, glir-3, sleep-1, wil-1, marc-3)

no vote: Glirdan, Tar-ancolime, Hiriel, The Ka

Day 2
tar-ancalime: THE Ka (THE Ka, 1)
Kitanna: Rune (THE Ka, 1; Rune, 1)
THE Ka: Rune (Rune,2; THE Ka, 1)
Sleepy Ranger: Rune (Rune, 3; THE Ka, 1)
Wilwarin: Rune (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1)
Bergil: Wayne (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1)
Hiriel: tar-ancalime (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1; tar-ancalime, 1)
sotty: Hiriel (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1; tar-ancalime, 1; Hiriel, 1)
Holbytlass: Sleepy Ranger (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1; tar-ancalime, 1; Hiriel, 1; Sleepy Ranger, 1)
Eonwe: Kitanna (Rune, 4; Kitanna, 1; five others, 1 each)
Rune: Kitanna (Rune, 4; Kitanna, 2; five others, 1 each)

no vote Wayne

VOTED FOR RUNE
The Ka: very interesting this time around, votes third when a vote is already against her. She votes Rune. Most people, wolf or innocent waits to the end to vote in case they have to save themselves. If she is innocent, she wouldn't know if Rune was a wolf or not, so her voting early says to me that if either she or Rune gets it, the other comes off looking innocent. High on suspect list.

Wilwarin:suspicious because of her voting placement, fourth for Rune. Definitely a position to bet on the high likelihood that he'll get it, comes of looking good for voting a wolf, but if someone else gets it, oh well.

Sleepy Ranger:suspicious also for voting placement.


I realize there are only 2 wolves left and I doubt both would vote Rune, out of these I find The Ka to be most suspicious.

OTHER VOTERS
Wayne: looking suspicious because of voting incorrectly, then not voting at all, as if he doesn't want a vote trail.



BTW, why is everyone talking of changing votes? They're NON-retractable, or does one mean changing the mind BEFORE voting?

What does this tell us? Again, that Eonwe is either a bold wolf or an unfortunate innocent. That other than Rune, we as a village had no strong inclinations yesterDAY. That Wayne (again, correct me if I'm wrong) is the only villager to have no votes count at all for DAYS 1 and 2.
Which is maybe why Eonwe thought that Kittanna was gunning for Rune so strongly. We all hail Kittanna for nabbing a wolf especially since she wasn't the seer but it was still guesswork. I myself was suspicious of Rune then changed my mind, how wrong was I! Anyway, my point is that I think Eonwe is just getting set-up.


My brain is fried....got to check back later for a fresh look, to surmise:



SUSPICIOUS LIST
The Ka
Wane
Wilwarin
Sleepy Ranger


NOT SUSPICIOUS
Tar-Ancolime
Eonwe


The others will have to wait

[wilwarin538]

Wilwarin:suspicious because of her voting placement, fourth for Rune. Definitely a position to bet on the high likelihood that he'll get it, comes of looking good for voting a wolf, but if someone else gets it, oh well.

Actually there was 11 possible votes yesterday. I voted for Rune when there was 3-Rune 1-Ka. The votes could have easily gone another way.

Plus I did admited that I was bandwagoning.

I think I'm gong to stick with being the first to vote, I seem to be safer that way.

++WaynetheGoblin

[Eonwe]

well, i just got back from work...it was awesome, let me tell you. :rolleyes:

right, as for my unfortunate insedent last Evening, it was just that. I totally didn't think rune was a wolf. so i defended him. that's it. but try to put yourself in a wolve's position: by the time i got on, rune had four votes. there was some chance of someone else getting five votes, but not much. so if i was a wolf, i would have killed him. plain as that.

speaking of wolves voteing, im pretty darn sure (ok im possitive) that there is a wolf in the voting for rune. im thinking 3rd or 4th, because you wouldn't vote second for a wolf, there would be too much chance that it would kill him. you would only want to vote for a fellow wolf when it is pretty plain that he is already dead. but i don't think it would be the last, taht would be too obvious. so im thinking third. whick happens to be sr, i believe.

ok not much else, im at a slight loss. im gonna have to vote before six, my time (EST) so be forewarned. :) that's all for now.

[sotty]

The people that are left and the level of my suspicions on them

Hiriel – High

As I said yesterday, Hiriel waiting until the last moment to vote is very suspicious to me. I made the point that it leaves her with a lot of options as to where her vote should go

Eek. Couldn't get as much time as I thought. Hopefully, I'll get more time to disect the rest of what's gone on, but I might just have to post a quick vote in the nick of time.

In the nick of time? Hoping to save Rune perhaps? In this post (105) she also throws more suspicions onto Tar who I believe at the moment anyway, is innocent. She also examines Rune but he already had 3 votes on him and his fate was pretty much sealed

I'll be very interested to see what happens tonight and who Rune turns out to be, and by then I should have some good theories about who has a hairy complex

I'd love to hear them Hiriel because right now you are still high on my list.

Bergil – High

Ghurthang, Sleepy Ranger, and Rune have travelled more and may have been lost in the forest, but this proves nothing. also, I've had strange feelings ever since I've came here, but I'd always put it down to flows of chii, or having met some of the people here in a previous life.

This is his first post it was of very little substance and he throws suspicious towards three villagers, we know Ghurthang was an innocent but Rune was indeed a wolf. My opinion on Sleepy so far is a likely innocent so was Bergil trying to throws us of sent by saying he in fact pointed at a wolf?

++Marcolie "DEATH" Laman

I don't suspect her in the least' but I must vote for someone.

Now he “randomly” votes an innocent in his next post. Both myself and Holbytlass have talked in thread about this and how it could be seen as a not so random and even wolfish. Bergil then claims he cross posted and decides to throw suspicions onto Wayne. Shifting our focus perhaps? He is making me nervous to say the least.


Eonwe – Medium to High

The points being made about Eonwe are quite interesting and he has moved up in my suspicions today

um i happen to agree with sr. what good is stabbing in the dark the whole game through. logic. tell me why. what is behind it all? that is what we need to see, cold hard logic. we won't get anywere without it. but there is a great derth of that Day one. so........

++willwa there is no logic and this is a completly random vote. i didn't even do the names in a hat trick...

This Eonwe first day vote in which he in fact contradicts himself in. One breath he's saying lets use cold hard logic and in the next he goes for a complete random vote. This is strange to me as even on the first day people managed to find some logic in voting (all be it the wrong kind). Then yesterday he stands up for Rune more aggressively than myself, so this is bound to draw peoples suspicions. I cannot jump on him for this though, because I did have similar doubts

WaynetheGoblin – Medium

I'm not sure about Wayne. His posts have started to annoy me slightly too but is that enough to assume he is a wolf? Not sure. I really did think he thought his vote counted on the first day, no real master plan behind that. So he could be like Rune hiding his vote in a “safe” place. The main reason I don't suspect him is because the people I do suspect (Bergil) are trying to gets us to look that way

Sleepy Ranger- low to medium

The only thing that bothered me about Sleepy was his lack of reasons when voting Glirdan on the first day. He has since cleared that up and is also another person on the Rune wagon and so in my eyes he is less suspicious right now.

Wilwarin538 – Low

For now I am willing to believe that she is a likely innocent. The only real suspicions people have of her is the band wagoning of Rune. She is low on my list because the only person to have voted for her is someone I suspect of being a wolf (Eonwe) and because she did in fact vote for Rune. There are arguments that she was the last vote on and could see no way to save Rune but I find this highly unlikely, for now.

Tar-ancalime, Holbytlass and THE Ka are all low on my list right now due to their posts being filled of helpful information and varying theories, but I could be completely wrong.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Since I am not feeling well and doubt I will be on later I will vote now.

++Bergil
This is going by Sotty's reasoning. My original plan was to vote for Wayne but Sotty's post has made me re-consider. If I am on later and any development has taken place in this matter I will retrace my vote but I don't think I'll be able to come on. :(

[Bergil]

I will not dignify your accusations with a rebuttal pointing out the obvous flaw. If you hadn't ruined your credibility, I could be brought to see Hiriel as a wolf.

[WaynetheGoblin]

vote

Well it seems that I have a vote. I am still suspicious of bergil.


++bergil


I will be gone for a littel. I think I voted right if not please tell me.

[sotty]

I will not dignify your accusations with a rebuttal pointing out the obvous flaw. If you hadn't ruined your credibility, I could be brought to see Hiriel as a wolf.


Please, please PLEASE point out this flaw. If I am wrong than I am wrong, I will have no problem admitting that. If you don't, this statement makes you MORE guilty in my eyes....

[Eonwe]

well, i'm pretty sure taht i will be able to get back on in the next hour. (after that, i wouldn't be on though :( ). however, if anything should come up, i would most likely have voted bergil, because he is on my List. (although he is not the highest, i want my vote to go somewhere this time).

sotty:

This Eonwe first day vote in which he in fact contradicts himself in. One breath he's saying lets use cold hard logic and in the next he goes for a complete random vote. This is strange to me as even on the first day people managed to find some logic in voting (all be it the wrong kind). Then yesterday he stands up for Rune more aggressively than myself, so this is bound to draw peoples suspicions. I cannot jump on him for this though, because I did have similar doubts


no, this is not a contradiction. the wrong kind of logic is not logic. sorry im being short, but im pressed for time right now. YOU DON"T KNOW anything on day one. ever. so ALL YOU HANVE TO GO ON IS RANDOM VOTES. but as time goes on that is when the cold hard logic comes in. ok thats all i got to run.

[Eonwe]

++Bergil

may you me a wolf...

im off for tonight...fare thee well...

[Bergil]

firstly, there are more innocents then wolves so most random votes will be for an innocent. secondly, if you go back and look at my vote, you'll see that I voted one muinate after Gurthand, less time then it takes to think up how to say it and type it (if, like me, you type slowly, and maybe if you don't) even if I somehow managed to checK the thread at the exact time he voted. and we couldn't have planned it ahead, we'd somehow have to know she'd be believable AND have clocks showing the exact same time to the second. I think, looking back, that you just missed these facts and are likely innocent.

[Bergil]

another one for me? that's it!

++WayneTheGoblin

[Holbytlass]

If I am on later and any development has taken place in this matter I will retrace my vote but I don't think I'll be able to come on.


RULES:
Votes will be NON-RETRACTABLE. Once you vote, you cannot change your mind and vote for someone else.

Recap:
Bergil-3
Wayne-2

5 votes to go
3 1/2 hours to go

[Holbytlass]

++SLEEPY RANGER

I'm sticking with him, I can't quite put my finger on it but he's just TOO careful.

[sotty]

firstly, there are more innocents then wolves so most random votes will be for an innocent. secondly, if you go back and look at my vote, you'll see that I voted one muinate after Gurthand, less time then it takes to think up how to say it and type it (if, like me, you type slowly, and maybe if you don't) even if I somehow managed to checK the thread at the exact time he voted. and we couldn't have planned it ahead, we'd somehow have to know she'd be believable AND have clocks showing the exact same time to the second. I think, looking back, that you just missed these facts and are likely innocent.

This is true but in my last look though I didn't mention you voting right after Gurthang, I had accepted the cross post possibility. My point was that you had named three people and then voted for a fourth random person who in fact turned out to be innocent. Can you not see how that looks wolfy like? So far you have managed to convince a few villagers of Wayne's guilt and if I didn't suspect you then I would probably be on that wagon myself.

I do believe either you or Hiriel are one of our two remaining wolves, but I'm not convinced you both are. Hiriel in fact is on the top of my list, but your extremely defensive reaction to my observations has made me think that maybe my vote might be better served on you.

[sotty]

I have to leave now so I will vote

++Bergil

I changed my mind from Hiriel after your extremely defensive stance to my reasoning sent up a beacon to me. I hope you are indeed a wolf, if not Hiriel I will be looking your way tomorrow.

[THE Ka]

Well, this be my vote post.

Non-voting the first night as I have been able to guess was due to two reasons:
- New players unsure of voting, time zone miscalculations, first night pressure, ect.

- Early werewolf tactics and voting plans. The most agreed upon theory of finding out possible suspects (ex. 'werewolf in the crowd').

Now ,the second night should be more reasonable and clear away at least the first reason i've put. If it doesn't I would hold suspicions as well.


Not voting two nights in a row is a reason for suspicion, and remaining rather silent is another that could add to this factor. I do not really have any other reasons to vote this way than besides these, but if there are other reasons due to forgetting to put 'vote' in the title of the post and such I can understand that only so far. I do not 'bandwagon' in this intention, I only go with this vote based on reasoning, not what others may have voted before me.

++Wayne

Sincerely,

Ka

[tar-ancalime]

vote

Well, it looks as though my inclinations are quite the opposite of some others.

I'm not sure about Bergil and Wayne, but now I definitely think that one or the other of them is a wolf. It's true that Bergil was suspiciously defensive, but so was Wayne in response to Bergil's accusations yesterDAY.

I stand by my theory of earlier toDAY, and I hope that I will be proved right as the game progresses:


++Eonwe

(Current votes:
Bergil-4
Wayne-3
Sleepy-1)

[tar-ancalime]

Yikes, sorry about that. Obviously that's ONE vote for Eonwe, not three. My server kept telling me it didn't submit those posts. (That's why I kept thinking I had more time for editing.)

I'm leaving them there so no one thinks I'm trying to tamper with the game by deleting them--if Modkatoj wanted to delete two of them, though, that would be peachy.

[malkatoj]

~~~~~TIME!!!!!~~~~~

Expect death shortly.

[malkatoj]

All the votes were in and the villagers were to kill Bergil toDAY. The difficult part was gathering necessary equipment. Sleepy Ranger wandered off in search of his pile of mirrors. WaynetheGoblin, on the other hand, gathered all the town's ladders. Eonwe taught 13 black cats to say 'Macbeth' before loading them into Sotty's gun.

The villagers found Bergil and tied him to a pole. Sotty stood a fair distance away, aiming the cat-loaded gun at Bergil. Sleepy Ranger ran in at just the last minute, smashed the mirrors over Bergil's head and loaded them into the gun with the cats. Wayne propped one ladder to the pole and climbed to the top with the rest of them.

Sotty took the first shot--a mirror-shard-coated-cat flew out screaming "MACBETH!" and hit Bergil in the face. Bergil shrieked without even realizing that one of Wayne's ladders was falling on top of him.

As Sotty continued with the next 12 shots, Wayne continued dropping ladders on top of him. Each of the black cats seemed equally coated with mirror shards and the high pitched 'Macbeth' screams probably broke the mirrors even smaller.

As the 13th cat hit Bergil square on the chest, the entire village heard him inhale one last time. The backup silver bullet Sotty had stored in the gun was unnecessary--Bergil was innocent.

ALIVE:
Wilwarin538, f. that crazy girl who wants to be a butterfly
WaynetheGoblin. Scientist.
Sleepy Ranger. Explorer from out of town who gets stuck in Lower Tadfield.
Sotty. School teacher
Tar-ancalime. Crone.
Eonwe. Friendly undertaker.
Holbytlass, f. tanner.
Hiriel. Connoisseur of pointy objects.
THE Ka. Ophelious Philosopher.

DEAD:
Malkatoj (mod) Eaten by one-winged Balrog or Wolf or Something, Night 1
AbercrombieOfRohan (backup mod) Eaten by one-winged Balrog or Wolf or Something, Night 1
Glirdan (ordinary) Shot with a 24-carat gold bullet on DAY one.
Márcolië Lamen (Shelob/Mytho) Vanished from ever having existed in Lower Tadfield on DAY one.
Gurthang (ordinary) Mauled by werewolves on NIGHT two.
Rune Son of Bjarne (wolf) Blasted to shreds by a Tactical Cheese Nuke, DAY two.
Kitanna (ranger) Killed...eaten? by wolves, NIGHT three.
Bergil (ordinary) shot with 13 mirror-shard-coated black cats that screamed MACBETH while having ladders dropped on his head on DAY three.


IT IS NOW NIGHT. I need a name from the Wolves, Seer and Hunter.

[malkatoj]

The moon shone brightly as the wolves searched for their prey, conversing casually as they did so.

"Funny how we've had a full moon every night," said one.

"Oh yes, but how lucky! Otherwise we'd only get to kill someone once a month, and they'd almost surely catch us by then," replied the other as he* noticed Sotty standing outside a house. The wolves looked at each other and nodded; having spotted their pray, then ran toward him,** but Sotty ran away.

The wolves chased Sotty across the village to the pointy object store, in the back of which lived Hiriel. They noticed that Sotty had snuck in the door and they followed. When they found Sotty again, he was standing next to Hiriel's bed, glowering at them.

The first wolf leaped and bit Sotty's leg and the second walked slowly toward him. Sotty, knowing he did not have long to live, quickly unhinged his jaw. Hiriel woke up from the noise at just this point--just in time to see Sotty close his jaws around him and swallow him whole. The wolves quickly finished Sotty off, congratulating themselves on killing the hunter.

ALIVE:
Wilwarin538, f. that crazy girl who wants to be a butterfly
WaynetheGoblin. Scientist.
Sleepy Ranger. Explorer from out of town who gets stuck in Lower Tadfield.
Tar-ancalime. Crone.
Eonwe. Friendly undertaker.
Holbytlass, f. tanner.
THE Ka. Ophelious Philosopher.

DEAD:
Malkatoj (mod) Eaten by one-winged Balrog or Wolf or Something, Night 1
AbercrombieOfRohan (backup mod) Eaten by one-winged Balrog or Wolf or Something, Night 1
Glirdan (ordinary) Shot with a 24-carat gold bullet on DAY one.
Márcolië Lamen (Shelob/Mytho) Vanished from ever having existed in Lower Tadfield on DAY one.
Gurthang (ordinary) Mauled by werewolves on NIGHT two.
Rune Son of Bjarne (wolf) Blasted to shreds by a Tactical Cheese Nuke, DAY two.
Kitanna (ranger) Killed...eaten? by wolves, NIGHT three.
Bergil (ordinary) shot with 13 mirror-shard-coated black cats that screamed MACBETH while having ladders dropped on his head on DAY three.
Sotty (hunter) Eaten by Wolves on NIGHT four.
Hiriel (ordinary) Eaten by Sotty on NIGHT four.


*he is my gender-neutral pronoun and means nothing about who the wolves are, get over it
**If your gender is wrong, correct me and I'll fix it...it's why I ask at the beginning of a game.


IT IS NOW DAY. I shall expect your votes by 9:00 GMT-5 tomorrow.

[THE Ka]

The first wolf leaped and bit Sotty's leg and the second walked slowly toward him. Sotty, knowing he did not have long to live, quickly unhinged his jaw. Hiriel woke up from the noise at just this point--just in time to see Sotty close his jaws around him and swallow him whole. The wolves quickly finished Sotty off, congratulating themselves on killing the hunter.


Wha...?

I didn't know that was anatomically possible, but hey, something must come from nothing...

This makes me think about last nights votes, something i've been rolling over in my head all day long (rather annoying), and i've learned quiet alot of things by now. Funny thing really, I thought I was going to be late in today's voting process, and have been counting three hours ahead for the past two hours, but I guess the voting has just begun for 'today'...

~ Ka

[tar-ancalime]

Since our numbers are so greatly diminished this morning, I'm going to look at the votes in a different way.

Voting records of those of us still alive:

wilwarin: tar-ancalime, Rune, Wayne
WaynetheGoblin: (DEATH), no vote, Bergil
Sleepy Ranger: Glirdan, Rune, Bergil
tar-ancalime: no vote, THE Ka, Eonwe
Eonwe: Wilwarin, Kitanna, Bergil
Holbytlass: Glirdan, Sleepy, Sleepy
THE Ka: no vote, Rune, Wayne

voted for Bergil, in chronological order:

Sleepy, Wayne, Eonwe, sotty

voted for Wayne, in chronological order:

wilwarin, Bergil, THE Ka

Only Sleepy has always voted for the person who got the axe. I don't know what to make of that, but I must confess a slight suspicion of those who are always to be found on the winning side, in Gaurhoth as in life.

Only Holbytlass has voted for the same person twice. I'd like to hear more from her about her suspicions of Sleepy.

---

Now let's take a look at sotty's voting and posts, and see what the motivation for this mauling might have been:

voting: tar-ancalime, Hiriel, Bergil

Clearly Hiriel was very high on sotty's list, as we can see this gruesome morning when we look back to comments from yesterDAY and sotty's vote from DAY 2.

Sotty's other suspicions yesterDAY included Bergil (who got the vote), Eonwe, and Wayne. (Post # 142)

Earlier comments from sotty (I think this is all of them; please add to this if I've missed any pertinent information):

post # 12 (first post) is not really informative
--in post # 25 adds a comment about Kitanna to Kitanna's list of suspects
--in post # 42 expresses mistrust with bandwagoning and "blame" (mentions Hiriel here), voices suspicion of DEATH
--in post # 58 votes for me while expressing suspicion of DEATH and Hiriel
--in post # 73 counsels Wayne about correct voting
--in post # 84 responds to Kitanna's Sleepy/sotty theory and explains the first-day vote for me, and voices suspicion of Hiriel
--in post # 106 posts some more about suspicions of Hiriel and some thoughts about Bergil
--post # 110 is mostly about the Rune debate, but the end mentions Hiriel yet again
--in post # 115 votes for Hiriel
--in post # 126 mentions the Hunter; also defends not voting for Rune; voices suspicion of Sleepy, me, and Bergil based on Kitanna's death
--in post # 142 makes a list of suspects (in order of suspicion): Hiriel, Bergil, Eonwe, Wayne, Sleepy; wilwarin, Holby, THE Ka, and I are all mentioned as likely innocents
--in post # 146 argues with Bergil
--in post # 153 states that either Bergil or Hiriel is a wolf, but not both
--in post # 154 votes for Bergil

My impression from looking at this summary is the pervasive presence of Hiriel in almost all of sotty's posts. Sotty made no secret of a continuing and unabated suspicion of Hiriel.

I think the wolves chose sotty as their victim specifically in an attempt to frame Hiriel, but it unfortunately backfired on them when the suspicious sotty chose Hiriel as the Hunter's quarry.

---

I'm hoping to hear lots of comments from everyone today, especially Sleepy Ranger, who has been very reticent these few days.

[tar-ancalime]

Hellooooooooo.......

*watches tumbleweed roll by*

I know that last night's tragedy has shaken us all, but we've got a responsibility to each other and to our ancestors who built Lower Tadfield, to purge our town of these wolves!

Silence only gives the wolves a place to hide. It makes their gruesome task easier.

Let's talk, talk, talk and share some theories!

I stand by my suspicions of Eonwe from yesterday.

Also, the more I think of it, the more I realize that we really haven't heard much from Sleepy Ranger. Sleepy, are you waiting for theories to form, or hiding a fanged grin behind your reticence?

The criticisms of Wayne from yesterday still hold, and are similar to my suspicions of Sleepy. Wayne, let us know what you're thinking! Also, Bergil (Wayne's first accuser, as I recall) was recently proved innocent in a most unfortunate way.

So, my feelings at the moment are:

Eonwe, Sleepy, and Wayne are suspicious to me.

I feel that THE Ka and Holbytlass are most likely innocent.

I hate to say it about someone who has come across as so kind and caring, but I'm just not sure about wilwarin at this point. Are you the thoughtful villager you seem to be, considering everyone as objectively as you can, or are you wearing those butterfly wings to cover up your big pointy claws?

[Sleepy Ranger]

Wait how was I supposed to know that they'd be the ones to get killed? Yes, I did think that Rune would be lynched and he did. As for Bergil I already stated why I voted for him and how is it my fault others felt it fit to vote for him?

As for being silent, I do believe I have posted a fair bit, perhaps I have not made many theories but I do re-call posting a bit about Wayne. If you mean to say that I was silent on the last Day that is because I wasn't well, I said so in the post where I voted. I've been a bit down on health which resulted in less posting, hopefully that explains my lack of posting but there have been people to vote lesser than me.

Wilwarin538- Possibly innocent but not sure.
WaynetheGoblin- Something tells me hes innocent but evidence says otherwise. (which there isn't much of)
Sleepy Ranger- Make of me what you will.
Tar-ancalime- Proably innocent.
Eonwe- Wolf (?)
Holbytlass- I honestly have no idea...
THE Ka- Innocent (?)

And as for waiting for theories, I daresay we have a few already but I haven't really had time to go through them (due to being sick).

I shall be back later

[THE Ka]

*stretch&yawn*

It's early (due to time zones... i'm always three hours in the past) and I don't know when the voting is going to end yet. my only hope is that it doesn't end before I get home at 3:30 (pm), which it probably will.

Anyways, it's a bit too early to cast stones, but I have still suspicions of today, and of yesterday.


Wayne of whom it would be nice to see more of, made my suspicion a bit stronger yesterday and now that we have two more of our villagers gone. I know how hard it is to post everything down before voting time ends and time differences, but I wonder if it would be possible to just give us your current thoughts and reasons every now and then. I hold suspicion based on the lack of involvment and voting.

Wilwarin, also it would be nice to see more of. Actually, based on involvement and posting, I would have to put Wilwarin above Wayne on my list now at this time. As i've said before in this post, it would be nice if you could just leave us some thoughts now and then, just to know if you're really out there or not. The same, but now with more suspicion based on lack on involvment.


Eonwe is not really suspicious right now to me, but ever since the earlier episode of first-day-voting people's have changed and or, left us. There is posting by them, but I have to yet to find some reason by which to hold suspicion yet.

Sleepy Ranger is not so sleepy it seems, but with a cold. I cannot hold suspicion based on posts and involvment, because sleepy has been contributing after every night and day posts so far. Though it may not be as much as others, but they still posted. Though, I will have to go through the posts again, since most are of recent content still unknown to me, or I am unsure of their target.

Okay, I must leave now for school and later come home and do research into these matters. Hopefully I will be able vote in time.

~ Ka

[tar-ancalime]

Ah, nice to hear from you, Sleepy Ranger! I certainly hope you feel better soon. It can be difficult to concentrate on werewolves when you're being menaced by germs. :(

I sincerely apologize for prodding you to post earlier; it's just that, as you mention yourself in your post, we don't have all that much to go on. I can't think of another way to get clearer about how things stand, than to hear from everyone.

Also I know that the first half of the DAY is not convenient for many people due to their longitudes; I'm hoping that when I get up in the morning to cast my vote there will be some more posts.

It's nice, too, to hear some more thoughts from you, THE Ka. Your paragraph about wilwarin got me thinking, especially.

[Holbytlass]

Day 1
Wilwarin-->Tar-Ancalime (tar-1)
Holby-->Glirdan (tar-1, glir-1)
SleepyRanger-->Glirdan (tar-1, glir-2)
Sotty-->Tar-ancalime (tar-2, glir-2)
Kittanna-->Sleepy Ranger (tar-2, glir-2, sleep-1)
Eonwe-->Wilwarin (tar-2, glir-2, sleep-1, wil-1)
Gurthang-->Marcolie (tar-2, glir-2 sleep-1, wil-1, marc-1)
Bergil-->Marcolie (tar-2, glir-2, sleep-1, wil-1, marc-2)
Wayne-->Marcolie (doesn't count)
Marcolie-->Glirdan (tar-2, glir-3, sleep-1, wil-1, marc-2)
Rune-->Marcolie (tar-2, glir-3, sleep-1, wil-1, marc-3)

no vote: Glirdan, Tar-ancolime, Hiriel, The Ka

Day 2
tar-ancalime: THE Ka (THE Ka, 1)
Kitanna: Rune (THE Ka, 1; Rune, 1)
THE Ka: Rune (Rune,2; THE Ka, 1)
Sleepy Ranger: Rune (Rune, 3; THE Ka, 1)
Wilwarin: Rune (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1)
Bergil: Wayne (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1)
Hiriel: tar-ancalime (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1; tar-ancalime, 1)
sotty: Hiriel (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1; tar-ancalime, 1; Hiriel, 1)
Holbytlass: Sleepy Ranger (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1; tar-ancalime, 1; Hiriel, 1; Sleepy Ranger, 1)
Eonwe: Kitanna (Rune, 4; Kitanna, 1; five others, 1 each)
Rune: Kitanna (Rune, 4; Kitanna, 2; five others, 1 each)

no vote Wayne

Day 3
Wilwarin-->Wayne (Wayne-1)
Sleepy Ranger-->Bergil (Wayne-1, Bergil-1)
WaynetheGoblin-->Bergil (Wayne-1, Bergil-2)
Eonwe-->Bergil (Wayne-1, Bergil-3)
Bergil-->Wayne (Wayne-2, Bergil-3)
Holby-->Sleepy Ranger (Wayne-2, Bergil-3, Sleepy-1)
Sotty-->Bergil (Wayne-2, Bergil-4, Sleepy-1)
The Ka-->Wayne (Wayne-3, Bergil-4, Sleepy-1)
Tar-ancolime-->Eonwe(Wayne-3, Bergil-4, Sleepy-1, Eonwe-1)

No Vote: Hiriel

Onto evaluating.....

[Holbytlass]

First off, lets look at whom the wolves chose to kill at night....

1) Gurthang:
sus: Marcolie, Wayne, Tar-ancolime
Vote:Marcolie

2)Kittanna:
sus: Glirdan, Tar-ancolime, Marcolie, Sleepy Ranger, Gurthang
vote:Sleepy Ranger

sus: Rune, Sleepy Ranger, Sotty, Bergil, Tar-ancolime, The Ka
votes:Rune

3)Sotty:
sus:marcolie, Hiriel, Tar-ancolime
vote:Tar-ancolime

sus:Hiriel, Bergil
vote:hiriel

sus:Hiriel, Bergil, Eonwe, Wayne
vote: Hiriel

Most reasonable to think that Kittanna got it for taking down a wolf, she came across as the seer. Wolves tend to want the seer out of the way early on even at the sacrifice of a fellow wolf.

As far as voting goes, Gurthang voted an innocent and Sotty: voted twice for the same innocent and once for an unknown. Most of all their high suspicions have been for (now known) innocents. I think right now the wolves are playing it safe and killing people whose death won't automatically lead back to them. That is not to say I think the others that Gurthang, Kittanna and Sotty thought suspicious are cleared.

Which means some of us are not being killed because we're on the right track.....

[Holbytlass]

Why I think Tar-ancalime is a wolf, especially in relation to Rune, a known wolf:

Rune(45):
Márcolië Lamen
Gurthang
tar-ancalime
(It does not meen that I will vote for one of them)

Rune(68):I will let Tar-ancalime go for this time, but lets see tomorrow.votes:Marcolie

Tar(87): defends Rune here (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=423160&postcount=87)

Rune(98):defends Tar
"I have not found anything in Gurthy's posts that point in one direction, but it would properly not have been tar-ancalime who is a wolf becourse she was one of his main suspects. (the other was DEATH and we were wrong about it!)"

Their defence of each other were about each others votes for innocent deaths. They were towards the beginning of the DAY as if to subtley persuade the rest of us as to their innocent intent.

Tar misses a vote then votes The Ka for the exact same reason citing that a wolf was amongst the first DAY none-voters, being suspicious of Hiriel and The Ka. Next DAY, Tar turns around at defends The Ka, and goes back to her 'fall-guy' vote Eonwe.

Even though Tar-ancalime is on each of the night kills' list, she wasn't the main suspect in any of them and as the days went by, she was becoming less suspicious in their eyes.

Of course, Sleepy Ranger is still on my suspect list.

[Eonwe]

ok then, holby, i'm thinking you will last a long time. (if your thinking on wolves not killing those on to them is correct). tar is super high on my suspect list. he is off teh rune bandwagon, which is a strike agianst him. and he's on my WHO'S LEFT LIST. and there certainly seems to be some mutual defense between tar and rune.

again, if im not back on today, i wouldn't prolly have voted tar. (and i hope to do so before im off.)

that's all for now. ill hopefully be checking back in an hour or so.

edit: actually, id like to hear a defense of tar before i vote for him. that is to say, it would be nice to hear from him, but ill vote for him if he doesn't. :D

[wilwarin538]

About my lack of posting. I would like to post as much as I have in past games, but thats very diffucult, especially with my schedual. I have no time in the morning, or at lunch and only have an hour after school. Then I usually work, sometimes past the time that the vote is due. I am trying, but it really isn't my fault. :(

My thoughts, they might have changed since yesterday:

Wilwarin538 - innocent
WaynetheGoblin - annoying, but probably innocent now that I think about it, a wolf most likely wouldn't post that little
Sleepy Ranger - again I'm not really sure, though my suspicion is rising slightly
Tar-ancalime - top of my list at the moment, mainly cause what Holby said makes sense
Eonwe - not sure, probably second on my list
Holbytlass - again I'm thinking shes innocent
THE Ka - most likely innocent

So everyone in order(from most supicious to least)

1.Tar-ancalime
2.Eonwe
3.Sleepy ranger
4.WaynetheGoblin
4.Holbytlass
5.THE Ka
(the double 4s weren't a mistake those two are even)

I will wait a little while longer before voting. I will most likely vote for tar.

Again, sorry its so short, I just have a lot to do. :(

[Sleepy Ranger]

I'd really like to hear from both Holby and Wilwa why they think I am a wolf because neither seems to have a reason, if they do I will gladly clear things up.

I haven't really paid much attention to Tar but you do bring up some good points. I will look into the matter.

[wilwarin538]

I'd really like to hear from both Holby and Wilwa why they think I am a wolf because neither seems to have a reason, if they do I will gladly clear things up.

Like I said, I'm not that sure about you Sleepy. Thats why you are in the middle of my list, you're somewaht suspcious and somewhat not.

I'm not going to vote for you. I'm not suspicious of you enough to do that.

[wilwarin538]

Actually I'm just going to vote now.

++tar-ancalime

[Eonwe]

ok here is what i have been typeing up in word documents for the past couple days.

Wilwa: cleared for voteing rune last. a wolf vote would be 2nd or third. possibley first but kittana (may she rest in peace) is, alas, innocent.

Holby: i find her using the diction of an innocent. something in the way she posts and talks. rather shaky, but all the same, i don't have anything againster her, and she talks well (meaning innocently).

Me: well...

so my suspect List is narrowed down to:

THE Ka
Sleepy Ranger
Tar
Wayne

THE Ka and Sleepy Ranger voted 2nd and 3rd (respectively, i beleive) for Rune. wilwa killed him, so i think that clears her. im pretty sure one of them is a wolf.

Tar and Wayne are WHO'S LEFT. i don't really know what to think (other than there is a wolf here). Tar has some pretty bold strikes against her (you are a her right?). Wayne? i don't really know (because you never post anything mre than three lines long!). (ehem.)

ps. we don't have long left. what like another two Days. let's make this one count, shall we?

[Eonwe]

same here. im pretty positive about tar.

++tar-ancalime

[Sleepy Ranger]

Wilwa: cleared for voteing rune last. a wolf vote would be 2nd or third. possibley first but kittana (may she rest in peace) is, alas, innocent.

When Wilwa voted it seemed that Rune would be lynched without a fight. I believe he had 3 votes to his name compared to only 1 vote received by somebody else at the time. Not pointing fingers just stating that.

Since I seem to be on the verge of a relapse I will place a vote and go to sleep.

++Eonwe

My decision was influenced by a lot of what others had to say and also because he fails to address any points raised against him.

I have a gut feeling that Tar is innocent but thats probably my mind messing with me while I'm sick.

[Holbytlass]

I'd really like to hear from both Holby and Wilwa why they think I am a wolf because neither seems to have a reason, if they do I will gladly clear things up.
You deserve an explanation and as I was preparing one on you and my opinions on everyone I saw so much on Tar-ancalime. Today, I will vote for

++Tar-ancalime

I realize I'm not giving her a chance to explain, she's probably not even awake, but nothing she says will persuade me otherwise.

[Eonwe]

ok screw this. i don't know how much longer i can survive. im going slightly mad trying to figure out what's what and who's who and why wilwa voted for tar.

heres the deal. wilwa is a wolf. im the seer. holby is innocent. all my other dreams got killed (which, cuz i suck at life, amounted to sotty last night. i missed a dream :o *profuse apologies* *kicks himself*).

tar certainly seems like a wolf, distancing herself from the rune lynch mob. but that is not enough. i haven't dreamed of her, though i should have last night. so your left with tar, wayne, sr, and THE Ka, like i said before. so draw you own conclutions. is tar a wolf that wilwa thought was tied and on the choping block, so she just voted? i don't know. maybe they worked it out that wilwa would stab both rune and tar in the back to make her look good to the end. what about sr and the ka. they look like they might be innocent, becasue of their placement on the rune bandwagon. but did they work this out ahead of time? what the frick is going on. you decide.

i strongly suggest voteing for tar. basically i want him dead, because im almost certain he is a wolf. (kitanna brought up rune seemingly out of nowhere. i don't think wilwa and her friend worked their voting out before hand. so we can cross off SR and the ka. that leaves wayne and tar. tar looks by far the worst, but lets not forget about wayne.)

[wilwarin538]

wilwa is a wolf. im the seer. holby is innocent.

Only one of those commetns is true. Holby is innocent. But I was the one who dreamt about her, not you. Sadly though everyone else I dreamt about has already died, I dreamt about Hiriel last night. I'll admit I havn't been doing the best job as seer that I could be doing and I apologize.

I just wish I could have admitted to it before this imposter came along. I have a feeling you all will believe him. But I'll tell you now its a big mistake.

[WaynetheGoblin]

Well I dont trust either of them. I am sorry that I wasnt here for a long time. I will vote.

++wilwarin538

[THE Ka]

but did they work this out ahead of time?

In a sense, yes. I would have been tied with Kitanna in the time placement, except I decided to go on longer and explain other suspects instead of just Rune, due to my earlier suspects on the list compared to Rune. Luckly, I managed to actually vote for a wolf. So, that is why vote was second (or third? I forget), and not tied with Kitanna in time placement.

Okay, well on to more recent things. Sleepy is beginning to fall off my suspicious list as of now, because i've completely forgotten about another player, Tar (...how could I? :rolleyes: ) but reasoning will do that to one's mind.

The small feud that was brewing the second day between Eonwe and Tar is over, but I'm still wondering if it was more of an 'inside' argument and not really directed to the other players as well, (ex. wolf aruging with wolf in an early stage, but still can be said amongst villagers at this early stage, due to lack of knowledge between each other.) Or, may i'm making a far-fetched generalization. I'm in a dead lock right now... Sleepy is low on the suspicion list because he really hasn't done much to set my alarm going. As for Holbytlass's earlier statements, i'm not counting them, because they were more of a misunderstanding of player's positions as of yesterday.

Wayne, still is holding a suspicious vote with me, because I can recognize that besides the lack of vote's he has been rather shifty... it seems there are mainly a few players doing all of the talking, but again it would be nice to hear from you. Please, just let us know you're following the progress of the game.

I don't know how much time is left for voting, but it seems that there are at least two sides in the voting:

Highly suspicious amoung both voting groups:

Tar-ancalime ("tar certainly seems like a wolf, distancing herself from the rune lynch mob.", yes this is true, but they had a reason to vote for a fellow non-voter since it is the first step in the reasoning process. Though, it does look suspicious when you are a non-voter as well.
WaynetheGoblin (basically, for the lack of knowledge about them and their voting pattern.)

Suspicious amoung one voting group:

Eonwe (also low, but still holding some suspicion amoungst one group)
SleepyRanger (though, this has been recently resolved by most of that one group, so, this is very low on the suspicion scale)


Okay, well I am going to cast my vote now, since I do not know how much time I will have left to vote.

The only reasoning now, that I can come up with, and that is based upon the posts and votes is that I will have to vote for Wayne.

I know that I am voting for the same person from last time, but they have proven to be the only one with reasonable information to vote for. I understand why Tar would be voted for, but Wayne to me, holds more grounds for suspicion.

So, thus be my vote:

++WaynetheGoblin

Sincerely,

Ka

[Eonwe]

:) wilwa, don't even try. it looks terrible taht you can only come up with dead people as your dreams. and you can kill me tonight and then be killed tomarrow. or you can be lynched today and we can lynch tar tomarrow, after im dead. but either way, they'll find out im the seer, because you know you have to kill me. and then its the pits for you, my dear.

like i said, i would strongly suggest voteing for tar today. i really think wilwa and the other wolf (aka tar) worked it out that wilwa would kill him and vertually fall off the map as far as the village is concerned. at the end, she would pull out her aces and yell about how she was directly resposible for two wolf deaths. or maybe wilwa just saw things were looking really bad for tar and put her vote there. either way, i think the logic is the same, and i think that tar is a wolf.

again, lets not spread the votes out to much. and please, make sure you kill either wilwa or tar. but preferabley tar, becasue we already have three votes there. *rubs hands together* then wilwa. also remeber teh convelutedness of rune's bandwagon, and that wayne is in no way proved innocent. vote wisely, and things should come out right.

[tar-ancalime]

Well, this is a reversal of fortune indeed. I awake to see that my fate is sealed.

I can only hope that the death of yet another innocent will clear things up for the rest of you.

I'm aware that this is too little, too late (and I stayed up very late last night waiting for someone to speak--I can't help but feel a little ambushed), but I'd like to address some of the comments made about me in recent hours.

1. (to Holbytlass) The post you cite as "defending Rune" actually voices an alternate theory as to why Rune is so suspicious. I didn't pass any judgment because it was so early in the DAY, hoping to hear some more before deciding.

2. (to Eonwe) Of course I wasn't on the Rune bandwagon! I had already voted that day! How could I get on a bandwagon when I had already decided? (Also, if you'll go back to the post in which I voted, I also explained why I had to make such an early vote.)

3. (to Holbytlass) Yes, I voted for THE Ka and then started defending her the next day. That's because I was impressed with her reaction to my vote. She knows she's innocent; therefore she didn't feel the need to vote against Rune and therefore try to "save" another wolf. Her vote was so early that it couldn't possibly have been considered bandwagoning.

4. (to wilwarin) YesterDAY you were totally convinced of my innocence, and toDAY, based on one post from Holbytlass, you totally change your mind? Hear me out at least.

5. (to Eonwe) I'm sorry, I just don't understand. Why would a known wolf casting the first vote for me make me look worse?

6. (to THE Ka) But the only reason I could even hold my non-voter-is-a-wolf theory as a non-voter myself, is that I KNOW I'm innocent and therefore have nothing to hide by using a theory that seemingly casts suspicion on myself.

7. (to Holbytlass) You "saw so much on tar-ancalime?" Come on, most of it was from you!

8. (to Eonwe) "or you can be lynched today and we can lynch tar tomarrow, after im dead." No, actually it's too late for that.

9. (to Eonwe) "again, lets not spread the votes out to much." How many of us do you think there are? Six people have already voted, three of them for me, three of them for three different others. It's a little late to be giving this kind of counsel, don't you think?

I will be watching from...wherever it is crones go when we die...to see the result of the Seer debate. It's a shame neither of them claims to have dreamed of me--it would be cleared up immediately upon my death. Actually it's rather convenient, isn't it, that both of them claim to have dreamed entirely or almost entirely of dead people? I wouldn't be too sure that either of them is the Seer. They could both be wolves.

Villagers, be careful tomorrow. After my lynching and the wolf attack that is sure to come in the night, you will be three and there will STILL be two wolves.

You have made the wrong choice, and I suggest you look closely at my accusers in the morning.

[AbercrombieOfRohan]

time!!!!

[AbercrombieOfRohan]

One (http://www.fln.vcu.edu//struwwel/daumen_e.html) day, Malkatoj said, "Tar-Ancalime dear,
I must go out and leave you here.
But mind now, Tari, what I say,
Don't live with werewolves and villagers while I'm away.
The great evil wolves always come
To little girls that play with them.
And ere they dream what they're about
They take their great long claws out
And cuts their thumbs clean off, - and then
You know, they never grow again."
Malka had scarcely turn'd her back,
The chick had moved, alack! alack!

The village voted and in they ran,
To attack the guilty, their newest sovereign
Oh! children, see! the village chose
And caught an innocent, woe of woes!

The torturous punishment began
Scissors were decided to be the newest plan.
Snip! Snap! Snip! the scissors go;
And Tar Ancalime cries out - Oh! Oh! Oh!
Snip! Snap! Snip! They go so fast;
Then both her thumbs are off at last.
Malka's ghost comes home; there Ancalime's body lands,
And looks quite sad, and shows her hands;-
"Ah!" said Malka "I knew they'd come
To those who live with paranoid chums!"

ALIVE:
Wilwarin538, f. that crazy girl who wants to be a butterfly
WaynetheGoblin. Scientist.
Sleepy Ranger. Explorer from out of town who gets stuck in Lower Tadfield.
Eonwe. Friendly undertaker.
Holbytlass, f. tanner.
THE Ka. Ophelious Philosopher.

DEAD:
Malkatoj (mod) Eaten by one-winged Balrog or Wolf or Something, Night 1
AbercrombieOfRohan (backup mod) Eaten by one-winged Balrog or Wolf or Something, Night 1
Glirdan (ordinary) Shot with a 24-carat gold bullet on DAY one.
Márcolië Lamen (Shelob/Mytho) Vanished from ever having existed in Lower Tadfield on DAY one.
Gurthang (ordinary) Mauled by werewolves on NIGHT two.
Rune Son of Bjarne (wolf) Blasted to shreds by a Tactical Cheese Nuke, DAY two.
Kitanna (ranger) Killed...eaten? by wolves, NIGHT three.
Bergil (ordinary) shot with 13 mirror-shard-coated black cats that screamed MACBETH while having ladders dropped on his head on DAY three.
Sotty (hunter) Eaten by Wolves on NIGHT four.
Hiriel (ordinary) Eaten by Sotty on NIGHT four.
Tar-Ancalime (ordinary) Cut with scissors by an angry lynch mob on DAY four.

Wolves PM and Seer PM.

[malkatoj]

Okay, early (and short) death due to my brother needing the computer.

The wolves chose their kill for the night. As they approached his house, they noticed that he was sitting outside on a porch waiting for them. They checked to see if they had all the necessary materials--wood and matches, to be specific. The two wolves approached Eonwe slowly. When they got there, he told them angrily, "You're late. I should have been aflame five minutes ago. Now hurry on, tie me up, don't take too long."

The wolves stood there stunned for a few moments and followed Eonwe to the exact place where they had planned on burning him. He stood there patiently waiting for them to light him on fire. When the finally did, the gunpowder and bits of broken glass he had stored inside his clothing caught on fire. Eonwe exploded, very nearly taking the wolves with him.

ALIVE:
Wilwarin538, f. that crazy girl who wants to be a butterfly
WaynetheGoblin. Scientist.
Sleepy Ranger. Explorer from out of town who gets stuck in Lower Tadfield.
Holbytlass, f. tanner.
THE Ka. Ophelious Philosopher.

DEAD:
Malkatoj (mod) Eaten by one-winged Balrog or Wolf or Something, Night 1
AbercrombieOfRohan (backup mod) Eaten by one-winged Balrog or Wolf or Something, Night 1
Glirdan (ordinary) Shot with a 24-carat gold bullet on DAY one.
Márcolië Lamen (Shelob/Mytho) Vanished from ever having existed in Lower Tadfield on DAY one.
Gurthang (ordinary) Mauled by werewolves on NIGHT two.
Rune Son of Bjarne (wolf) Blasted to shreds by a Tactical Cheese Nuke, DAY two.
Kitanna (ranger) Killed...eaten? by wolves, NIGHT three.
Bergil (ordinary) shot with 13 mirror-shard-coated black cats that screamed MACBETH while having ladders dropped on his head on DAY three.
Sotty (hunter) Eaten by Wolves on NIGHT four.
Hiriel (ordinary) Eaten by Sotty on NIGHT four.
Tar-Ancalime (ordinary) Cut with scissors by an angry lynch mob on DAY four.
Eonwe (seer) exploded by wolves (and self) on NIGHT five,


Vote by 9 GMT-5 tomorrow.

[wilwarin538]

Well its been fun. :p

Fellow wolf you know what to do.

And so do I:

++wilwarin538

The lupins shall be victorious!

[THE Ka]

Oh pooh bear!

I know not much about these rules, but I am in suspicion of guessing that I do believe we villagers have lost, despite our appealing mortal envelopes...


Either that or these darn wolves have my philosophical brain tongue-tied and stitched up with glossy pink thread.

Whatever may be, it's been a bella time with you all, but I think I'm going to exit with my hoop skirts and statue of Hegel before these wolves try to sell them off for a hitched price to the local animal life...

~ Ka

[wilwarin538]

Ka I only said"Its been fun" cause everyone knows what I am, and would be stupid to not lynch me today.

The game is far from over.

[THE Ka]

Ka I only said"Its been fun" cause everyone knows what I am, and would be stupid to not lynch me today.

The game is far from over.


Really, over you say? Well, I will be taking your message in accordance with the fact that I know who the other wolf is. One night in this lovely village, a flea, or more specifically, a band of five fleas came together and settled upon a fur most trivial. When they jumped off their rather confusing ride, one happend to land on my pillow and told me some things... ;)


In other news, I must gather evidence, and pack some things....

~ Ka

[THE Ka]

Ehk... I hate to double-post, but I am going to have to leave soon so I better post this now...


Through much speculation and finally harsh reason, I have come to conclude that I possibly based on hard reasoning skills that one besides Wilwarin is a wolf.

I know I shall be voting, again, for the same reasons as the before vote, but they leave me no choice:

++WaynetheGoblin

Yes, they did vote yesterday, but they did not post any speculation posts or anything related to that over the past days. Also, the timing of their posts brings me into speculation as well.

If I am wrong, well, theories are cast as easily as a wolf snaps it's jaws.

Sincerely,

Ka

[Holbytlass]

++WaynetheGoblin
What?! How come you didn't vote Wilwarin?! She and the other wolf killed the seer, thereby proving Wilwarin is a wolf.
BTW, I'm actually surprised. I figured I was going to be killed since the seer/fake seer both agreed on my innocence, wouldn't want a known innocent hanging about. oh well.

++WILWARIN

[Holbytlass]

Wilwarin538 (wolf)
Holbytlass(ordo)



WaynetheGoblin
Sleepy Ranger
THE Ka

One wolf out of the last 3, I assume I'll probably get it tonight unless the wolf plan is so devious as to make me choose between a wolf and an innocent next DAY. Sorry for the mindless prattle, I'm thrown for a loop that I'm still alive. I'm going to sleep......

[Sleepy Ranger]

Its kinda obvious who to kill today.

++Wilwarin538

As for who the last wolf is I assume Wayne would be a safe bet but we can't be sure. The last day will be tricky I think and will depend on who the wolf chooses to kill. If only the Seer had dreamed of Wayne, perhaps then things would have been better for us. But at the moment I assume that Wayne is the last wolf. Lets see what works out...

[WaynetheGoblin]

Well looks like my own sister was a wolf

++wilwarin538

Today we killed a wolf.

[WaynetheGoblin]

Im innocent im an ordanary villager. I didnt want to say that but I had to proof I was inoccent. Tommorow we shold kill ka she is the only one that didnt vote for wilwa.

[Holbytlass]

Day 1
Wilwarin-->Tar-Ancalime (tar-1)
Holby-->Glirdan (tar-1, glir-1)
SleepyRanger-->Glirdan (tar-1, glir-2)
Sotty-->Tar-ancalime (tar-2, glir-2)
Kittanna-->Sleepy Ranger (tar-2, glir-2, sleep-1)
Eonwe-->Wilwarin (tar-2, glir-2, sleep-1, wil-1)
Gurthang-->Marcolie (tar-2, glir-2 sleep-1, wil-1, marc-1)
Bergil-->Marcolie (tar-2, glir-2, sleep-1, wil-1, marc-2)
Wayne-->Marcolie (doesn't count)
Marcolie-->Glirdan (tar-2, glir-3, sleep-1, wil-1, marc-2)
Rune-->Marcolie (tar-2, glir-3, sleep-1, wil-1, marc-3)

no vote: Glirdan, Tar-ancolime, Hiriel, The Ka

Day 2
tar-ancalime: THE Ka (THE Ka, 1)
Kitanna: Rune (THE Ka, 1; Rune, 1)
THE Ka: Rune (Rune,2; THE Ka, 1)
Sleepy Ranger: Rune (Rune, 3; THE Ka, 1)
Wilwarin: Rune (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1)
Bergil: Wayne (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1)
Hiriel: tar-ancalime (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1; tar-ancalime, 1)
sotty: Hiriel (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1; tar-ancalime, 1; Hiriel, 1)
Holbytlass: Sleepy Ranger (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1; tar-ancalime, 1; Hiriel, 1; Sleepy Ranger, 1)
Eonwe: Kitanna (Rune, 4; Kitanna, 1; five others, 1 each)
Rune: Kitanna (Rune, 4; Kitanna, 2; five others, 1 each)

no vote Wayne

Day 3
Wilwarin-->Wayne (Wayne-1)
Sleepy Ranger-->Bergil (Wayne-1, Bergil-1)
WaynetheGoblin-->Bergil (Wayne-1, Bergil-2)
Eonwe-->Bergil (Wayne-1, Bergil-3)
Bergil-->Wayne (Wayne-2, Bergil-3)
Holby-->Sleepy Ranger (Wayne-2, Bergil-3, Sleepy-1)
Sotty-->Bergil (Wayne-2, Bergil-4, Sleepy-1)
The Ka-->Wayne (Wayne-3, Bergil-4, Sleepy-1)
Tar-ancolime-->Eonwe(Wayne-3, Bergil-4, Sleepy-1, Eonwe-1)

No Vote: Hiriel

Day 4
Wilwarin-->Tar-ancalime (Tar-1)
Eonwe-->Tar-ancalime (Tar-2)
Sleepy ranger-->Eonwe (Tar-2, Eonwe-1)
Holbytlass-->Tar-ancalime (Tar-3, Eonwe-1)
WaynetheGoblin-->Wilwarin (Tar-3, Eonwe-1, Wilwarin-1)
The Ka-Wayne (Tar-3, Eonwe-1, Wilwarin-1, Wayne-1)

no vote: Tar-ancalime


Day 5
Wilwarin-->Wilwarin
The Ka-->Wayne
Holbytlass-->Wilwarin
Sleepy Ranger-->Wilwarin
Wayne-->Wilwarin

[Holbytlass]

Wayne:
1st vote: didn't count
2nd vote: none
3rd vote: Bergil (2nd to vote for him)
4th vote: Wilwarin
5th vote: Wilwarin (wolf)
Very wolfish for lack of votes, voting for Wilwarin (and she for him Day3) when it was safe to do so.

The Ka:
1st vote: none
2nd vote: Rune (2nd for him)
3rd vote: Wayne
4th vote: Wayne
5th : Wayne

could be seen as wolfish for the none vote, 2nd place banding for Rune (since he was a wolf, doubt a fellow wolf would be 2nd vote), voting but staying out of the loop by sticking with Wayne, never the "suspect of the day".

Sleepy Ranger:
1st vote: Glirdan (2nd for him)
2nd vote:Rune (3rd for him)
3rd vote: Bergil (1st for him)
4th vote: Eonwe
5th vote: Wilwarin (wolf)

could be seen as wolfish for his banding votes first 2 days but switches gears, makes it a point not to appear bandwaggoning.


Of course, only one's a wolf.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Of course, only one's a wolf.

Indeed and Wayne is the only one that has made no effort to counter any evidence raised against him. Chew on that for a while.

[Holbytlass]

Chew on that for a while.
I'd get p*ssd off for that if I didn't love you so much!!

Wayne is the only one that has made no effort to counter any evidence raised against him

Unfortunately, that's the way he always is. But I have been "chewing" and if you haven't noticed by my wording and the order I have everyone in, I find him to be the most suspicious.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Unfortunately, that's the way he always is. But I have been "chewing" and if you haven't noticed by my wording and the order I have everyone in, I find him to be the most suspicious.

I didn't direct my comments at you and I apologize if you were offended by them. I was just voicing my opinion in general.

[Holbytlass]

No apology necessary. That is the downfall to posting, one cannot hear tone of voice. I was playing.

I just want all scenarios of wolfishness to be looked at from all angles.

I certainly can be wrong about things, (Tar-ancalime comes to mind ;)). But at least, everyone knows my intent is good.

[WaynetheGoblin]

I have proof that I am inniocent. I was the only person to vote for wilwa yesterday. It even says that in holbys post.

[Sleepy Ranger]

I have proof that I am inniocent. I was the only person to vote for wilwa yesterday. It even says that in holbys post.

Wilwa was relatively safe yesterday. I daresay she was in no danger of being lynched, so that is a rather thin excuse. You were the only vote against her after the Seer pointed it out. Perhaps trying to set up an innocence tale? Seems kind of stretched to me.

[THE Ka]

What?! How come you didn't vote Wilwarin?! She and the other wolf killed the seer, thereby proving Wilwarin is a wolf.
BTW, I'm actually surprised. I figured I was going to be killed since the seer/fake seer both agreed on my innocence, wouldn't want a known innocent hanging about. oh well.

++WILWARIN


Killing two birds with one stone. I want to be able to spot the other wolf by making them come forward and reason. This way, I want to see the reaction and reasoning. I am testing my theory based upon the current evidence.

~ Ka

[malkatoj]

And a late death, due to homework. Apologies again.

The villagers, having voted and decided on their death for the day, went to search out Wilwarin. The seer had told them that she was a wolf, so they had nothing to worry about. But when they went to find her, she was nowhere to be found.

They scoured the village, searching every house, tree, or anything so that they could kill one wolf. Until finally...

Holby ran panting from the river. "Wayne, Wayne!" she yelled. Wayne rushed over to her, hoping for news of his sister.

"Your sister's drowned, Wayne!" she panted.

"Drowned? Oh, where?" Wayne replied, both relieved to be rid of the wolf and saddened at the news of his sister.

"In the water, you moron!"* Holby replied, and dragged Wayne down to see. The other villagers followed. When they arrived at the river, they saw a half-transformed wolf sunk from the weight of her clothing.

Sleepy looked relieved, theorizing that perhaps they could have realized she would have drowned herself after she voted for herself. "I mean, if she didn't want to go out with a fight, that must have been why she voted for herself, and it would explain this too," he said.

Kanodded quietly, reminding them of her words: "Fellow wolf, you know what to do." "There is one more wolf, and we must find it," she said before they all retired to sleep.


*as stolen directly from the Reduced Shakespeare Company
**again, people mentioned in deaths have nothing to do with anything unless they're dying

ALIVE:
WaynetheGoblin. Scientist.
Sleepy Ranger. Explorer from out of town who gets stuck in Lower Tadfield.
Holbytlass, f. tanner.
THE Ka. Ophelious Philosopher.

DEAD:
Malkatoj (mod) Eaten by one-winged Balrog or Wolf or Something, Night 1
AbercrombieOfRohan (backup mod) Eaten by one-winged Balrog or Wolf or Something, Night 1
Glirdan (ordinary) Shot with a 24-carat gold bullet on DAY one.
Márcolië Lamen (Shelob/Mytho) Vanished from ever having existed in Lower Tadfield on DAY one.
Gurthang (ordinary) Mauled by werewolves on NIGHT two.
Rune Son of Bjarne (wolf) Blasted to shreds by a Tactical Cheese Nuke, DAY two.
Kitanna (ranger) Killed...eaten? by wolves, NIGHT three.
Bergil (ordinary) shot with 13 mirror-shard-coated black cats that screamed MACBETH while having ladders dropped on his head on DAY three.
Sotty (hunter) Eaten by Wolves on NIGHT four.
Hiriel (ordinary) Eaten by Sotty on NIGHT four.
Tar-Ancalime (ordinary) Cut with scissors by an angry lynch mob on DAY four.
Eonwe (seer) exploded by wolves (and self) on NIGHT five.
Wilwarin538 (wolf) Drowned by self (aka lynched) on DAY five.


PM from remaining Wolf.

[malkatoj]

The remaining wolf worked quietly through the night to set up his trap. A trail of m&ms led to a large bucket attached to a catapult hidden in the woods. Right in front of the catapult was a small pit, just large enough for a person to fall into. After this work, the wolf stepped slowly toward Holbytlass's house and knocked on her bedroom window. Holby woke up and saw the path of m&ms. Forgetting for a moment the state of her village, she got out of bed and followed them. The wolf ran ahead and prepared his trap.

As Holby walked, she began to notice the strangeness of the evening. Though the moon was bright, there were no stars to be seen. The trees moved eerily, though there was no wind. She continued, however, to follow the path, taking care not to step on the m&ms. After fourteen minutes, she saw a large shape looming in the distance--the catapult, though she did not know it at the time. She walked closer, trying to figure out what this strange object was. She continued moving until she fell.

The pit had worked perfectly. The wolf grinned as he filled his first bucket and launched 20 dead fish at Holby in the pit. Holby screamed, trying to climb out, but it was too late. Bucket after bucket of fish landed on her, filling the pit and muffling her shouts for help.

The wolf dragged the catapult away, throwing the two remaining fish into the pit.

The next morning, the villagers gathered and immediately noticed that Holby was missing. They followed their noses until they found the pit of fish which held Holby, who suffocated hours ago. They looked at each other in silence, each understanding the significance of this day.

ALIVE:
WaynetheGoblin. Scientist.
Sleepy Ranger. Explorer from out of town who gets stuck in Lower Tadfield.
THE Ka. Ophelious Philosopher.

DEAD:
Malkatoj (mod) Eaten by one-winged Balrog or Wolf or Something, Night 1
AbercrombieOfRohan (backup mod) Eaten by one-winged Balrog or Wolf or Something, Night 1
Glirdan (ordinary) Shot with a 24-carat gold bullet on DAY one.
Márcolië Lamen (Shelob/Mytho) Vanished from ever having existed in Lower Tadfield on DAY one.
Gurthang (ordinary) Mauled by werewolves on NIGHT two.
Rune Son of Bjarne (wolf) Blasted to shreds by a Tactical Cheese Nuke, DAY two.
Kitanna (ranger) Killed...eaten? by wolves, NIGHT three.
Bergil (ordinary) shot with 13 mirror-shard-coated black cats that screamed MACBETH while having ladders dropped on his head on DAY three.
Sotty (hunter) Eaten by Wolves on NIGHT four.
Hiriel (ordinary) Eaten by Sotty on NIGHT four.
Tar-Ancalime (ordinary) Cut with scissors by an angry lynch mob on DAY four.
Eonwe (seer) exploded by wolves (and self) on NIGHT five.
Wilwarin538 (wolf) Drowned by self (aka lynched) on DAY five.
Holbytlass (ordinary) Covered in fish on NIGHT six.

IT IS NOW DAY. I will expect your votes by 9:00 GMT-5 tomorrow.

[THE Ka]

The wolf grinned as he filled his first bucket and launched 20 dead fish at Holby in the pit.

If you knew the breeding patterns of fish, you could hardly call them nice...

Dear, dear... It seems that there are only three of us.

This is going to be a difficult task find the last wolf. Very, difficult. :( I don't know what to trust now, but with the reasons I've collected so far, I just hope that logic and philosophical reasoning will not fail me.

What to do... What to think...

~ Ka

[Sleepy Ranger]

OH NOES! We are down to the last three, one wrong move and this could end terribly. Out of the three of us Wayne looks the most suspicious and after all our Seer did trust THE Ka and though she did seem wolfish in the start, she has been acting more like an innocent now. So either shes innocent or a really good wolf but I believe shes innocent.

I'll wait to see how things develop before passing a judgement.

[WaynetheGoblin]

One chance to get rid of a wolf. Ka I suspect you the most because the day our seer reaveled himself you voted for me when it was impossible to put the votes on me. Another reason is that everyone but you voted for wilwa on day 5.

[WaynetheGoblin]

Well I think I am going to vote because I have to go to school.

++The ka

[Sleepy Ranger]

Slow day today and we could've used a lot more talking today. I think I will go with Wayne but I'd really like to hear more from Ka before I place a vote. This day marks the difference between victory and defeat and I really do not want to make any silly mistakes.

[WaynetheGoblin]

It has been slow for a last day. Sleepy you are correct Ka isnt posting much and one voting mistake and villagers lose. Their is 2 ways the villagers can win trust one of us and go for a double lyeanch or think about who the werewolf is vote for that person and say your reason and hope that person is the wolf.

[Sleepy Ranger]

I only hope I'm not wrong. Wayne does seem to be the most suspicious. I really hope I'm not making a big mistake and that Ka is the wolf.

++Wayne

[WaynetheGoblin]

Well since the death is in 20 minuts I am saying that I am an ordanary villager. I wanted to survive to the end but it looks like a double lyeanch oh well hope I can survive to the end next time.

[malkatoj]

~~~~~time!!!!! ~~~~~

[malkatoj]

I just wrote up a whole special death and then the computer decided to log me out, so you get the cliffs notes.

Sleepy ties Wayne and Ka to steaks. Not stakes, steaks. Then he waits until the moon shows up. Ka sees him and makes an obvious reference to Little Red Riding Hood. Sleepy eats Wayne, Ka and both of the steaks. Then he goes home to his real village and wreaks havoc as a wolf there. The end.

Alive: Sleepy Ranger, wolf
Dead: Everyone Else


You can now use this thread for discussion of the game. It was fun modding, and I wish you all good luck in future games.

~Modkatoj

[Gurthang]

Wow, I can honestly say I am very surprised. Sleepy just wasn't the wolf in my mind. Congrats, wolves, on the victory; well played. :D

Oh, Wilwa:

They were the only ones who encouraged my dream of butterflydom

I saw that. I didn't make a comment for fear you were the real Seer.

Now, since this is the junior game, I'd like to point out a couple of strategies that could have worked out very well for the wolves in those last couple days.

First off, with two people, Wilwarin and Eonwe, claiming to be Seers and neither of them dying, the wolves had some options. They could have elected to not kill the Seer, but instead kill Hobytlass, the one they both said was innocent. This would have meant that the village would have spent the day trying to decide who to kill, Wilwarin or Eonwe. Since their were two wolves left at the time, they only needed to get one other person to vote for Eonwe, then they follow that up with their votes and get her lynched. Even if it's a tie, it doesn't matter. The game would have been over then.

On another note, today, when Wayne voted for THE KA, if Sleepy would have immediately voted for her also, the game would have been over. As it was there was a chance for a triple tie, and I don't know what would have happened then, since it is not specified in the rules.

Oh, by the way, I've got a question for the wolves. Why me? :p

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I knew you could do it Sleepy, I am so proud of you!

By the way, I am glad that some of you you found the trail that I left to Tar. This mean that I was to some use for the Wolves. :)

[sotty]

It was a great game and the two remaining wolves were people I didn't even expect. :eek:

On that note......many apologies to Hiriel and Bergil...my bad :(

[tar-ancalime]

By the way, I am glad that some of you you found the trail that I left to Tar.

I'm not. ;)

I'll echo Sleepy's question (but direct it at Rune):

Why me?

[Sleepy Ranger]

Oh, by the way, I've got a question for the wolves. Why me?

You'd screw things up by proving us innocent even when the Seer comes out and says who the wolves are. And the worst part is you'd make sense and thus prevent us from killing the Seer and sacrificing one of us...

We killed you because you were too Han Solo-ish to be left alive! ^_^
More detailed post when I don't have to put on my other sock and shoe and go to school.

[Márcolië Lamen]

Good game all. Reading this knowing who the wolves were since I died so early and was then told them by our dear Modka, makes it a very different game. I found myself questioning moves being made.

Congratulations wolves, and Sleepy most of all. I don't think I would have suspected you before the last two days, when I was getting...like anxious feelings in the posts.

My part in the game I must say I expected to die early especially with an occupation of DEATH, but it is really annoying to die the first day the time you're not a normal villager. But I must say it was helpful for the villagers since I would have probably choosen Rune for the person to become the role of.

So all in all good game, and I didn't play much, but still, it was interesting to follow.

[Glirdan]

YOU PEOPLE!!!!! GRRR!!!!!!!! :mad: If you would have went back after Rune got lynched and reread my posts, you'd realise that I named all 3 Wolves!!! And my gut feeling that Eonwe was innocent was correct as well. I had a strange felling he was the Seer. GRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!! :mad: Thank you Sleepy for getting rid of these fools of Tooks!!!

Anyway, enough for my ranting. Good game all. Now I know not to go out socializing. :rolleyes:

[Kitanna]

Sleepy was the last wolf? Well, I thought he might be, but I wasn't sure if it was

But I was quite happy when the wolves killed me. It meant they though I was the seer which was what I was going for. I figured if I couldn't protect the seer by night I could at least buy him another day by putting myself forward.

But Eonwe as the seer? I thought it was Holby.

The only thing I was sad about was I wrote this long analysis in the vain hope I didn't die. And I pinpointed Sleepy and Wilwa as wolves. Though I also thought Bergil was a wolf, how surprised I was when he turned out innocent.

Fun game though, very enjoyable. Actually probably my best game (personally speaking of course).

[THE Ka]

Dear fellow player's, moderators and other exceptions:

I wish to disclose that the lack of my presence this night at voting was due to a last minute request that I be at a theactrical premiere this evening. I understand how this may of disappointment, but I have found that I cannot attend further WW games due to my frequent scheduling and amounts of free time (or so I thought I had some... :mad: ). I wish to lastly say that I write this in most apologie to all whom this may have been shocking, disappointing and that my abensence has left our 'village' in utter disaster. Even so, I do not wish to cast my last vote or reveal it since the game has ended, and thus useless to this further discussion. I leave you all in my utter apologies and that I hope this will not happen to us (...and myself...) again.

With most sincere apologies,


The ever-last-minute-called-upon Ka

Formal Note: I have not read any of the current posts at this time, I am sorry.

[wilwarin538]

Sleepy I swear if it hadn't worked out so well I might have figured out where you live and came and hurt you. :mad: All you had to do was vote fo the Ka. Thats it. Why oh why did you vote for Wayne? That scared me so much I thought we might lose.

Anyway, well played. You folowed the rest of my plan perfectly, even though it wasn't that great of a plan. :p Good work!

Why we killed who we killed:

Gurthang we killed you cause you are smart, thats about it, it was our first night, you just seemed like the best bet.

Kitanna, well I think its pretty obvious, its was you that got Rune lynched, but low and behold you were the Ranger, pure luck on our part.

Sotty I think was just another safe choice, ended up being the Hunter who choice an inocent, more luck.

Eonwe, well I wanted to keep him alive, get the village a little confused, but we decided it was a bad idea incase he dreamt about Sleepy that night, and even if he didn't he would tell the village who he did dream of and reveal another inocent.

So yeah those are our reasons.

I'm very happy about this game. I would have liked to make it to the end with Sleepy(and Rune) but Eonwe just had to dream about me. :rolleyes: Why did you dream about me? Which Night?

[WaynetheGoblin]

4 times in a row I dont win werewolf this sucks.

[Eonwe]

yeah, you pretty much had to kill me. it was me or holby, we were both proven innocents, but if you killed holby, i would have had another dream (the ka) and i'm pretty sure you would have lost. because wayne would no that the ka was innocent and vote for sr instead. so, good choice.

im afraid i don't make a good seer. i even didn't dream one night :o . many appologies, i think we would have won if i had one more proven innocent. sorry.

um, wolves. did you guys have any desire to kill me just before i declared myself? i was getting all panicky, i was sure i was going to die in the next night, i don't know why. i decided i had to at least get wilwa, because noone really suspected her, and i thought the village had a pretty good chance of getting the last wolf. it was weird, the game kinda got to me mentally :o . oh well.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Whats wrong with you people? I did the double-lynch just for the awesomeness of it! I was safe... Wayne voted Ka, I voted Wayne. Even if Ka did vote for me, it would be Ka and Wayne getting lynched while I got off no charge. How ever if there was a triple lynch this would have been the first ever draw. Which would've been cooler than winning! ^_^

Well then Wayne has a nack for losing and I have one for winning... 2-0!
Sleepy Ranger is the Han Solo of Barrow-Downs! Agreed? :)

Oh and Holby darling, why on earth did you keep voting for me? :(

[Holbytlass]

Oh and Holby darling, why on earth did you keep voting for me? :(
Something in my gut, you were just too careful or something. But you'll need to congratulate your wolf-buddy Rune, if I hadn't overanalized everything, I wouldn't have picked up on the Rune/Tar-ancalime, and would have stuck on you like a bulldog. Darn, it I did that in another game, ironically enough it was Wilwarin that was my gut choice and I dropped the ball on her that time, too. Which is why I originally put her in my suspect list.

Sorry, Tar-anacalime, Rune did his job too well. Congratulations to the wolves, very well planned strategies, my fishy hat off to you!

Eonwe, you did well, too, having stayed alive so long and in finding a wolf. Seership is hard (my first WW game I was it), people that one has dreamt about are dead, haven't dreamt of a wolf and trying to subtly save those who are innocent can really cause a headache!

Malkatoj and Abercrombie, our moddess goddesses, those were funny deaths, I thought I was goin to be catapulted out of town! Thanks for your hard work.

[Kitanna]

Eonwe, who else did you dream of? And Sotty who did you choose to take down? It's always fun to know these things.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I have allmost stoped kicking my self for getting lynched that early!

I truly did not want to get a dubble lynch, but the thing that happend was that I could not figure out witch tactics to use for voting the first day. I finaly decided that I was innocent and that Wilwa and Sleepy was not in the game, with this as facts I could see no other option than to vote for Death as she was the one seeming most Wolfish!(although I would prefer to see Glirdan dead)

The next day I just did not have the time for a lengthy and good defense before it was too late.

This pretty much sums up my actions in the game!

Eonwe; you played great! I was so shocked when you declared that you were the seer. :eek:

Let me just say that I thought most of you played really great!

YAY WOLF VICTORY ! ! !

[Glirdan]

Yes Eonwe, you did really well. I too would love to know who you dreamt of other than Wilwa and Holby.

Rune, I'm pretty sure I'm right in this, but you would want me dead because I named all three of you right off the bat, right? Well, I tell you now that if you went to vote for me, you would have looked really suspicious because of the fact that I named you. Good idea in not voting for me.

Kitanna and sotty, could you guys give who you chose each night and why as well?

[Kitanna]

I protected Ka one night two and Holbu on night three. But if I could have protected myself I would have on night three.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Oh by the way Glirdan you're welcome. ;)
And just as a side note Modkatoj forgot to mention I make a gigantic pie out of your bodies and eat it before heading back home.

[sotty]

I was convinced that Hiriel was a wolf so every night I was gunning for her. So all in all, I wasn't a great hunter....lol. Had fun playing though, hopefully in the next game I can tune my senses better

[Glirdan]

Oh why thank you Sleepy. I still can't believe that I was able to pick all of you out on Day 1. It was complete randomness I tell you. 100 percent random. And then guessing that Eonwe was the Seer. That was different.

Kitanna, I know what you mean. It would be nice if you could protect yourself, wouldn't it?

Sotty, next time, even if you're positive that someone's a Wolf, you should try and look for the other two Wolves because you might just get lucky and get a Wolf.

Malka, just like to say that I loved how you made everything as if it was in modern day times. That was an interesting twist to the whole thing. And now I have a question, how in the world did sotty eat Hiriel like the Wolves did to him? :confused:

Crombie, even though you only did a death once, it was still good.

Wilwa and Rune, like I said, can't believe I picked you three out on the first Day. Godd job.

Everyone else, good game.

[Eonwe]

:o well, although im flattered by your praise, im afraid i didn't really do that good. i dreamed of holby the first night, totally random, like everything on that cursed day. next...um...i didn't dream. i forgot to send it in until an hour past. but it would have been the ka. third was wilwa. i didn't like the tacked on vote. after i died i dreamed of the ka, but it didn't really do any good.

it was funny. i kept on trying to stay a bit suspicious, so that the wolf wouldn't want to kill me. how ironic that i tried to hint that there was a wolf in teh last two votes for rune (wilwa) and sr turns out to be a wolf as well.

it is too bad that all our gifteds got taken out. if the ranger was still alive we would ahve won. or if i had one more konwn innocent. ah well...such is life. did you wolfs spot the gifted, or was it random luck? because i sure didn't spot anyone.

well, good game everyone! especially you sr. even at the end, i didn't really suspect you. and good mod jobs by malkatoj and abercrombie as well. way to go!

ps. my seer stragatgy was to just amass a huge amount of known innocents, and hopefully, we would be able to sort it out by haveing the pool narrowed down. that didn't really work, especially as we lost more and more gifted.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I'm not. ;)

I'll echo Sleepy's question (but direct it at Rune):

Why me?

Well you were acting suspisus at first and therefor made my list of suspects, then the other on my list died in a dubbel lynch, so if I were to leave a trail it was to you. To my luck you defendet me after I had statet that I did not suspect you so much. It could not have worked out better. . . :D

Rune, I'm pretty sure I'm right in this, but you would want me dead because I named all three of you right off the bat, right? Well, I tell you now that if you went to vote for me, you would have looked really suspicious because of the fact that I named you. Good idea in not voting for me.

You are right, again ! ! ! You realy scared me by getting us all at once and I wantet to kill you so badley, but I came to the same conclution as you and did not. (spend rest of the game beeing nervous of people looking at your post)

[Bergil]

again'I die for being outspoken. maybe now that I yelled at someone outside a game, I'll do better. good game, everyone.

[Hiriel]

Really good game, all. Sorry I was so absent and missed most of it, and came off so wolfish, too. Hope to play with ya'll again.

[THE Ka]

Oh by the way Glirdan you're welcome. ;)
And just as a side note Modkatoj forgot to mention I make a gigantic pie out of your bodies and eat it before heading back home.


Remember to look out for fishfever... it's just gnashly how fast it spreads! Hope this mortal envelope hasn't sprung an outbreak... ;) :o

~ Aesthete

[The Only Real Estel]

Well, I'm not going to toot my own horn here but...I am going to brag just a bit. :p
Now that the game is over I look back at page 4 of the proceedings & laugh. I had repped Holby's short post (#152) in which she said:

++Sleepy Ranger

I'm sticking with him, I can't quite put my finger on it but he's just TOO careful.

And gave the following explanation for my rep:

Of course I'm not encouraging you to go after Sleepy: (A) That would be illegal & (B) I haven't been able to follow the game as closely as I would've liked; but I like the way you're thinking. That nagging gut feeling is ignored too often... -Estel

Turns out in the end that I was right. :D

[Sleepy Ranger]

Alas, 'twas too late TORE, too late. For the mighty (and hungry) Sleepy has already devoured the villagers. He used his awesomeness and charisma to do what he had to. After all he is the best at what he does. ;)