insults.

[Bergil]

another quote game.
You have to identify the speaker, the insulted, and the referrence (if there is one) of the insulting quote from a Tolkien book. correct guess goes next.
to start off

{qoute] dost thou desire the whole world for thy belly [/quote]


Edit: excuse me if for stating the obvious.

[arcticstorm]

Was it Melkor to Ungolient?

[Bergil]

you got it.

[arcticstorm]

ok an easy one

attercop

[Kath]

Bilbo to the Spiders.

[arcticstorm]

yep

[Kath]

Cheers.

beggar-beard

[luthien-elvenprincess]

Azog to Nar

[Kath]

Impressive! Go ahead.

[luthien-elvenprincess]

I think this should be easy...

"...are so dull"

[Dimturiel]

Hobbits are so dull. The Elves to Frodo, Sam and Pippin, when they were leaving the Shire.

[luthien-elvenprincess]

Yep!

[Dimturiel]

uncouth race Good luck.

[arcticstorm]

was it the mouth of Sauron to the delegation referring to Frodo?

[Dimturiel]

Nope, not that, sorry.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Thingol to the dwarves who made the necklace I believe. It was when they asked for greater payment I believe.

[Dimturiel]

That's right.

[gralin musicteeth]

This thread seems to be dying....so here's an easy one to start it up again:

Club-foot

I actually felt really bad for the recipient of that one. I almost cried.

[Sleepy Ranger]

To get this moving again I believe I shall give you an easy one. Almost too easy in fact...

Fool of a Took

[Annatar!]

Gandalf to Pippin in Moria.

the previous one is Turin Turambar to Brandir the Lame

[Sleepy Ranger]

Heh... maybe it isn't that easy. Gandalf to Pippin in Moria is not what I'm looking for.

[Dimturiel]

Gandalf to Pippin in Isengard, then?

[Sleepy Ranger]

Gandalf to Pippin in Isengard, then?

Ah, Dimturiel! It has been a while. Yes, that is it. Your turn.

[Annatar!]

Can someone please quote the passage where Gandalf says to Pippin in Isengard "fool of a took?????? double checking it is found in Moria just after Pippin drops a stone into a well, can't seem to find it in any passages that take place in Isengard with the necessary charatcers. Gandalf does call Pippin a tom-fool of a Took though, (without being pedantic)

[Sleepy Ranger]

It is the 'tom-fool of a Took' quote. I just have an annoying habit of shortening/cutting away quotes like that. Just to make it a bit more challenging for the others. :)

Not like I'd cut words into half at random. Just in cases like this one where you can mistake it with something else. Its not the first time I've been tricksy at Quotes. :p

Anyway, welcome to the Barrow-Downs and I hope you have a good stay. I'll be looking forward to seeing more of you in Quotes.

[Dimturiel]

young serpent

Enjoy! :D

[Evisse the Blue]

"If we speak of poisoned tongues what shall we say of yours, young serpent?"

Saruman to Eomer. :)

[Sleepy Ranger]

"If we speak of poisoned tongues what shall we say of yours, young serpent?"

Saruman to Eomer. :)

Pardon me but, welcome back Evisse. Here, I'll steal this moment to knight you Lady of Quotes. In other news, the user above you is a Lady of Quotes as well. :)

[Dimturiel]

Yep, that's the one, Evisse. :)

[Evisse the Blue]

*feels honoured* ;D
I'll try to live up to it.

I left a fool.

[Guinevere]

Grishnákh to Uglúk, (when Grishnákh came back )

[Evisse the Blue]

That's correct.

[Guinevere]

:) Penny-wise tub-on-legs!

[Guinevere]

Do you need a hint? ;) It's from one of the Minor Works...
Or are they not included in this thread? :(

[Evisse the Blue]

They should be included imo, otherwise we'll run out of quotes to use...

But I think we're gonna need another hint to get this one. :)

[Guinevere]

Look in the poems... ;)

[Glirdan]

I do believe that was Bilbo to the Spiders in Mirkwood.

[Guinevere]

"The Hobbit" is not one of the Minor Works ;)

[Glirdan]

Awwww....well, I won't get it... (I don't have any of the minor works...)

[Guinevere]

Hm, it looks like I have killed this thread with this quote :(

It's from "Tales from the Perilous Realm" in one of the poems.

But if nobody gets it soon, I'll solve it and post another "insult" from LotR

[Sleepy Ranger]

Wish I could help but I have most of the minor works, with UT being the only one that comes to mind.

[Guinevere]

Still nobody? Well, I'll tell you then.
Tom Bombadil calls Farmer Maggot "Penny-wise tub-on-legs!" in "Bombadil goes boating"

And here is a new "insult", I hope easier to locate!
Now come, you filth!

[Dimturiel]

Sam to Shelob, by any chance?

[Guinevere]

Exactly! :)

[Dimturiel]

Ape! Have fun!

[Rikae]

Ape!Grishnakh to Ugluk, TTT pg 55

And that's my 100th post! :D

[Dimturiel]

Yep. You're right.

[Rikae]

Someone else can take my turn.

[Guinevere]

OK, here we go:
Fainthearted loiterers

[Dimturiel]

Feanor to Olwe, by any chance?

[Guinevere]

Your turn again, Dimturiel! :)

[Dimturiel]

Thank you :) baseborn mortal

[Guinevere]

I guess that's Thingol to Beren?

[Dimturiel]

That's right! :)

[Guinevere]

Thank you, Dimturiel! (btw, I like your signature! Where does it come from?)

Here's another nice insult:

You descendant of rats!

[Dimturiel]

This has to be Thorin to Bilbo.

[Guinevere]

Exactly!

(it seems we two are alone here on this thread... What's become of Sleepy?)

[Dimturiel]

So it seems it's my turn again. (By the way, Guinevere I'm glad you like my sig. :) It's from a poem by Yeates called "Stollen child".)
ill-gotten son Good luck! :)

[mhagain]

Well it's been almost 20 days and since I'm new here and exploring around I may as well jump in.

Eol to Maeglin, on the Caragdur.

So you forsake your father and his kin, ill-gotten son! Here you shall fail of all your hopes, and here may you yet die the same death as I.

[Dimturiel]

That's the one. Welcome to the Downs! :)

[Captain Grishnahk]

I have no idea... :confused:

[Elmo]

Since its been about an age here's one Blind you are...

[Guinevere]

This would be Húrin mocking Morgoth:

"Blind you are, Morgoth Bauglir, and blind shall ever be, seeing only the dark."

[Elmo]

Well done, too easy.. the question itself was insulting

[Guinevere]

Not at all! I am glad that you revived the thread, hewhoaresesinmight! :)

Here's a new insult, directed at all those who have neglected this thread for so long ;)
Come on, you slugs!

[Elmo]

Is that when Sam and Frodo get stopped by the orcs in mordor?

[Guinevere]

That's right! The orc captain to diguised Frodo & Sam.

Your turn again!

[Lord Melkor]

I hope you guys don't mind me putting up the next one. :)

"Get thee gone from my gate, thou jail-crow of.....!" (last word omitted to make it a bit harder ;) ).

[Morwen]

Feanor to Melkor (as he then was)

[The Sixth Wizard]

The last word is 'Mandos' as well.

[Finduilas]

I'm bored, so here goes... Are movie insults allowed? I don't know if this is in the books...

You sea rats!

[Morthoron]

I'm bored, so here goes... Are movie insults allowed? I don't know if this is in the books...

You sea rats!

That was uttered by the Orc with the interesting headpiece at the docks to whom he thought was a ship full of Corsairs (but was actually Aragorn and friends). The exact quote is: "Late as usual, pirate scum! There's knife work here needs doing. Come on, you sea rats! Get out off your ships!"

[Finduilas]

Right!

[Morthoron]

"Who are these miserable persons?"

[Dimturiel]

This was said by the Great Goblin about the Dwarves and Bilbo.

[Morthoron]

This was said by the Great Goblin about the Dwarves and Bilbo.

Yes, along with several other insults that would've have really given it away!
Great job! Your turn.

[Dimturiel]

Thank you!deluded allies Here you are.

[Morthoron]

That would be the Mouth of Sauron, referring to terms with the rabble of Gondor and its deluded allies.

[Dimturiel]

Yep, that's the one.

[Morthoron]

"uncouth race"

[Morwen]

Thingol to Dwarfs of Nogrod

[Morthoron]

Thingol to Dwarfs of Nogrod

Excellent! Your turn.

[Morwen]

I'll pass on my turn. Any takers?

[Guinevere]

I'll take it, since I have some insults ready... ;)

You cursed, peaching sneakthief!

[Morthoron]

The tracking Snaga to the Uruk he eventually killed in Mordor (while Sam and Frodo were hiding).

[Guinevere]

Yes, well done, Morthoron!

[Morthoron]

"...the invaders and usurpers of our home."

[Morthoron]

Hmmm...perhaps I was too vague. I'll add another phrase...

"...slayers of our kin, the invaders and usurpers of our home."

[Dimturiel]

That would be Eol to Maeglin about the Noldor.

[Morthoron]

That would be Eol to Maeglin about the Noldor.

Bah! I knew that added extra would be a dead give away. Good job, please continue.

[Dimturiel]

fat fool Good luck!

[Morthoron]

"You're a fat fool, William," said Bert, "as I've said afore this evening."

The trolls arguing in the "Roast Mutton" chapter of The Hobbit.

[Dimturiel]

Well done. Your turn again.

[Morthoron]

"stick-at-nought"

[Guinevere]

That's Bill Farney to the Hobbits, about Aragorn, when they are leaving Bree.

"I suppose you know who you've taken up with? That's Stick-at-naught Strider, that is!"

[Morthoron]

That's Bill Farney to the Hobbits, about Aragorn, when they are leaving Bree.

"I suppose you know who you've taken up with? That's Stick-at-naught Strider, that is!"

You are right, It was Bill Ferney. And it is spelled 'nought' in the book, by the way, which is a variation of 'naught' (at least in the worn out 1978 Ballantine paperback edition I have on my desk -- too lazy to go look through my hardbound editions atm).

[Guinevere]

Thank you!
(Sorry I misspelled Bill, and yes, in my Harper Collins copy it's spelled "naught".)

...numbskulls!


(btw, your signature fits this thread nicely, Morthoron! :D )

[Morthoron]

Thank you!
(Sorry I misspelled Bill, and yes, in my Harper Collins copy it's spelled "naught".)

...numbskulls!

(btw, your signature fits this thread nicely, Morthoron! :D )

*The Dark Elf bows*

I referred to two hardbound copies I have (one published by Allen and Unwin, and the other by HarperCollins), and each have the spelling as 'naught'. Only the Ballantine paperback version has the spelling as 'nought'. Someone did not do a proper proofreading job!

Anyway, the quote you offer is found here:

"'Rope!' cried Sam, talking wildly to himself in his excitement and
relief. 'Well, if I don't deserve to be hung on the end of one as a
warning to numbskulls! You're nowt but a ninnyhammer, Sam Gamgee: that's
what the Gaffer said to me often enough, it being a word of his. Rope!''

[Guinevere]

That was probably too easy for you, Morthoron !
(And we can't use "ninnyhammer" here anymore now ;) )

[Morthoron]

Sorry about adding 'ninnyhammer'. Such a waste of a perfectly good insult.

...a phantom designed in the folly of their hearts...

[Guinevere]

Oops! I had quite forgotten about that thread :( but let's revive it now, shall we?

Sauron to Ar-Pharazôn, about Eru

[Folwren]

Sorry about adding 'ninnyhammer'. Such a waste of a perfectly good insult.

Ninnyhammer would have been a simple one - who other than Sam would have said it?

[Guinevere]

Get up lazybones!;)

[Azaghâl]

Bofur to Bilbo, at Beorn's, in the morning.

"Get up lazybones, or there will be no breakfast left for you."

[Guinevere]

Exactly! Your turn to insult, Azaghâl ;)

[Azaghâl]

"Come, Master Sluggard, ..."

[Dimturiel]

Legolas to Merry at Hornburg.

[Azaghâl]

That is a correct answer, you can go on.

[Dimturiel]

Thanks.tender little fools Enjoy.

[Azaghâl]

Grishnakh to Merry and Pippin, at the edge of Fangorn.

"My dear tender little fools!" was the exact quote, but that would have given too much away. "Tender" was already enough to put me on the track. :)

[Dimturiel]

Yep, that's the one:D. Go ahead.

[Azaghâl]

Thank you.

[...] a dirty treacherous fool. [...]

[Eönwë]

Grishnakh , I'm not sure where. I just saw it in the corner of this page. What luck!

The whole quote was:
"Saruman is a fool, and a dirty treacherous fool. But the eye is on him."

[Azaghâl]

You're right. As to the location, somewhere on the plains of Rohan should be enough since I am now far too sleepy to check the chapter or the chronology.

Your turn now. :)

[Maedhros_the_Tall]

Admittedly its not my turn, but this thread looks like allot of fun, and it has apparently been quiet for a long time! Therefore I shall have a go!! My quote is easy enough :)

"Woodwose"

[Guinevere]

That would be Saeros about Túrin, spoken to Mablung I believe.

[Maedhros_the_Tall]

Yup, thats right! I was thinking of Saeros saying it to Turin, after he threw the vessel at Saeros, but he also says it about Turin to Mablung right after!!

Your turn Guinevere

[Guinevere]

Thank you, Maedhros!

You're a booby

[Morthoron]

"You're a booby," said William. "Booby yourself!" said Tom.

The trolls in The Hobbit before deciding whom to squash first.

[Guinevere]

Exactly! :)

I hope you still find more insults...
(I know several in Tolkien's Minor works, but those are not so well known.)

[Morthoron]

I hope you still find more insults...
(I know several in Tolkien's Minor works, but those are not so well known.)

Like Farmer Giles of Ham or Leaf by Niggle? I think we'd have to get a consensus before picking quotes from non-Middle-earth stories.

Anyway, here's an insult...

...nasty suspicious-looking creatures, and rude as well.

[Nerwen]

Balin, referring to the crows.

[Morthoron]

Balin, referring to the crows.

Sorry for the late reply. You are most certainly correct, and it's your turn.

[Nerwen]

Okay:

needless baggage on the road...

[Maedhros_the_Tall]

Feanor to Maedhros after abandoning the better part of the host of the Noldor?

[Nerwen]

Yep!

Your turn.

[Maedhros_the_Tall]

(This is probably a bit easy, but I haven't got my books handy to reference, they're all packed up! Lol.)

"Descendant of rats!"

[Nerwen]

Thorin to Bilbo.

[Maedhros_the_Tall]

Yes indeed! Thought you might get that one rather swiftly! :p

Your turn Nerwen!

[Nerwen]

I did– once I checked the thread. :p

Maggots!

[Dimturiel]

The Isengarders to the other orcs while running on the plains of Rohan?

[Nerwen]

Sorry, Dimturiel, I missed your answer!

You are, of course, correct. Please take the thread.:)

[Dimturiel]

Thanks.


small rag-tag
Here you are.

[Nerwen]

Saruman to Gandalf, about Merry and Pippin.

[Dimturiel]

Yup. Go ahead.

[Galadriel55]

Who said this one:
"A dirty treacherous fool"

[Evisse the Blue]

Grishnakh about Saruman

[Galadriel55]

Correct, Evisse!

[Evisse the Blue]

Who called who:

'dotard chamberlain of an upstart'

[Guinevere]

I think that was Denethor telling Gandalf that he (Denethor) didn't want to be the dotard chamberlain of an upstart (meaning Aragorn) (right before he jumped on his pire)
Btw, welcome back, Evisse! nice to see you posting again in the Downs!

[Evisse the Blue]

Thanks for the welcome, Guinevere :) It's so awesome that this place hasn't changed a bit in all these years : D

And of course you are correct about the quote.

[Guinevere]

who called who:

"ninnyhammer"

(too easy I know, but I didn't have time to find anything more challenging that hasn't been used yet...)

[Galadriel55]

That was Sam calling himself when he forgot about the elven rope at Emyn Muil(and he said that the Gaffer called him that back in the Shire ;))

[Guinevere]

Exactly! :)

[Galadriel55]

Thanks, Guinevere!

Craven lord of slaves

[Pitchwife]

Fingolfin challenging Morgoth to single combat, if I'm not mistaken.

[Galadriel55]

Fingolfin challenging Morgoth to single combat, if I'm not mistaken.

You are not!

[Pitchwife]

Thanks!:)
A long-standing favourite of mine:

You are one of the fools whom spring would not mourn if you perished in winter.

[Galadriel55]

That would be Mim talking to Ulrad, one of the outlaws, when they were speaking about the edible plants that Mim gave them.

[Pitchwife]

Bingo! Back to you.

[Galadriel55]

Thanks!

Little snufflers

[Guinevere]

That would be the big fighting orc to the small tracker orc in Mordor, overheard by Frodo and Sam.

But I am not sure if I will be able to spot any more insults that haven't been used yet...:(
(except from the minor works.)

[Galadriel55]

You are absolutely correct, Guinevere!:D

Maybe there is something that someone thought but not said, if that could be considered an insult...:confused:

[Guinevere]

I hope this counts as an insult:

Fey are you both, and foolhardy.

[Galadriel55]

I think it's an insult. This quote is bugging me: it sounds familiar, but I can't picture anyone saying it. A clue, maybe?:Merisu:

Just a shot in the dark - Aragorn? It sounds like something he'd say to Gimli and Legolas...

[Guinevere]

It's neither from LotR, nor from the Hobbit.

[Galadriel55]

I would never have guessed it, even with the clue, if I didn't happen to come across it while rereading that part of COH yesterday. It's Mablung, talking to Morwen and Nienor, when they go to Nargothrond to look for Turin. Morwen wanted to search herself, but Mablung dissuaded her.

[Guinevere]

Well done, Galadriel55. :)

[Galadriel55]

Thanks! But that was more luck than me... :)

I didn't want to use an insult that's too obscure, or use one that is aplied to every character (like fool). I hope this one will count!


Faint-hearted

PS: it's not really an insult, but it kind of is...

[Guinevere]

Hm, could it be Túrin to his kinswoman Aerin (the Easterling's wife)?

[Galadriel55]

Hm, could it be Túrin to his kinswoman Aerin (the Easterling's wife)?

Exactly!

[Guinevere]

Now I am puzzled! It was only a guess, but I looked it up in UT afterwards and found the exact words were
"And faint heart is yours, Aerin "

[Galadriel55]

I took it from COH. I don't have the copy with me right now, so I can't give the exact words.

Anyways, your guess was correct!

[Guinevere]

Thanks!

You son of dastards, thief, slave of slaves!

[Galadriel55]

Methinks that was Turin to Brodda, when he came to speak with Aerin about the absence of Morwen and Nienor...

[Guinevere]

Yes, that's it, Galadriel55.
I guess that was all too near to your last quote, but I couldn't find any other insults that haven't been used before.

[Galadriel55]

This is probably too easy, but I also couldn't think of other insults.

Strawheads

Please give 2 different occasions of when it was used!