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Eärendil
01-14-2002, 02:25 AM
*New member*
Is it true that Tolkien got inspired by the myths (and things like that)of Scandinavia? Am really curious... I mean, "Middle-Earth" is the place where the Nordic gods lived.. Anyone knows? Thanx for your help smilies/smile.gif
*Sorry for my English*
Eärendil
01-14-2002, 02:27 AM
Another place where the gods where is "Asagård" btw... Doesn´t it sound quite similar to things in the books? It would be cool if he was inspired of it, I mean, I´m from Sweden... smilies/biggrin.gif
dernhelm
01-14-2002, 02:01 PM
I think Tolkien was inspired by the myths of Scandinavia. I know he was in a club called the Inklings, where they would read and discuss the old Norse sagas in the original language. Also, he did a very detailed study of the story Beowulf. I'm sure both of these things influenced the characters and settings of Middle Earth. Plus, I remember reading that some of the Elvish in Lord of the Rings came from an old language spoken in Finland.
Adariana
01-14-2002, 02:36 PM
Tolkien was plainly inspired by his Christian faith. To see this a good book is the one I am currently reading, "Finding God in the Lord of the Rings." It shows the striking parallel to Bible in many aspects.
I could tell you more if I had finished the book that I am reading.
Sindalómiel
01-14-2002, 10:02 PM
That book sounds interesting. Who's it by? I might try and find it next time I'm in Moore Books.
Eärendil
01-15-2002, 07:15 AM
Okay, thanx. smilies/smile.gif
dernhelm
01-15-2002, 04:54 PM
In reply to Sindalomiel:
I have the book Finding God in the Lord of the Rings, too. It is by Kurt Bruner and Jim Ware. I haven't had time to read it yet, but it should be really interesting.
[ January 15, 2002: Message edited by: dernhelm ]
Sindalómiel
01-16-2002, 05:13 AM
Thanks Dernhelm, I'll have to see if I can get my hands on a copy somewhere.
Perethil
01-16-2002, 10:18 AM
Tolkien was majorly inspired by Norse mythology and it formed a major base to his legends. i think, he also had great knowledge of ancient Nordic languages.
Little_My*
06-23-2003, 10:46 AM
midgård is middle earth in swedish..and it was there the people lived, then there was utgård och asgård..utgård was home of the giants and asgård the home of the gods. dont know how to translate it...anyone else from sweden here?
Finwe
06-23-2003, 12:31 PM
Tolkien was an avid reader of Scandinavian legends. His work on Beowulf is still read today. In fact, he and his students (I don't remember exactly where) started a Viking club where they sat around, drank ale, and discussed Scandinavian epics and legends. He got the names of the 13 Dwarves in The Hobbit from characters of Scandinavian legend. He also got Gandalf's character from the Kalevala. He also loved Celtic mythology. In fact, that is where he got his Elves from. They are very similar to the Sidhe in Celtic folklore.
dancing spawn of ungoliant
06-23-2003, 01:04 PM
YAy!Gandalf from Kalevala!?!actually gandalf can be compared to Väinämöinen(kind of wizard in Kalevala) but i hadn't ever realized that...(i'm from Finland smilies/biggrin.gif )
also the pronaunciation of elvish is (at least partly) based on Finnish so i don't have problems when reading elvish, lucky me... smilies/tongue.gif
Rumil
06-23-2003, 04:43 PM
I guess there are familiar elements from many legends. The Swedish, Finnish, Celtic and bible stories have been mentioned. Also Arthurian legend (Return of the King), Atlantis (Numenor), even Shakespeare gets a look in (Ents - Birnam Wood). The Second Age ends with elements of the epic of Gil-gamesh (Gil-galad), probably the oldest surviving known story. As for the end of the Third age, 'Childe Roland to the Dark Tower came'.
I don't think this sort of thing is anything to worry about, all writers adapt elements of previous stories, few so well as JRRT.
[ June 23, 2003: Message edited by: Rumil ]
Orofaniel
06-24-2003, 05:39 PM
Tolkien was inspired by Celtic myths and Scandinavian legends and stuff. The long poem Kalevala from Finland is the basic inspiration for Quenya.
I've also read that World War 2 inspired him and that he wrote The Silmarilion during the war.
There was also something about him and his wife, that was an inspiration for the love story about Beren and Luthien.
I read some of this in his bio, and something I've just heard so I don't know if it's true. smilies/biggrin.gif
Richard Schletty
02-26-2011, 07:01 PM
I think Tolkien was inspired by the myths of Scandinavia. I know he was in a club called the Inklings, where they would read and discuss the old Norse sagas in the original language. Also, he did a very detailed study of the story Beowulf. I'm sure both of these things influenced the characters and settings of Middle Earth. Plus, I remember reading that some of the Elvish in Lord of the Rings came from an old language spoken in Finland.Check out my musical setting of "Gawain's Leave-Taking."
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