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MatthewM
10-30-2007, 04:04 PM
The thread "Gandalf's Powers" mentioned hroa and fea. I've heard the words before, but am not sure of there meanings. What is hroa and fea? I also have heard of ofermod, but do not know what it is, although I believe it is over whelming pride? Can anybody help me out? Thanks!

William Cloud Hicklin
10-30-2007, 07:50 PM
Hroa and fea refer to what can be called roughly (not precisely) 'body' and 'soul' in rational Incarnates. These terms do not apply to Ainur and the like, who are ealar 'spirits', who can if they choose a put on a visible form, a fana. The major exception to this is the Istari or Wizards, who were ealar physically incarnarte in hroar, with the express consent of Manwe (if not Eru Himself).

How 'physical' a fana was is rather fuzzy. Apparently certain acts, such as childbirth, would render a fana 'permanent;' this was especially the case if the Spirit in question attempted to master physical matter in that form: hence the inability over time of Morgoth and Sauron to alter their appearance- and indeed, the 'death' of Morgoth when his fana was destroyed by Mandos.

William Cloud Hicklin
10-30-2007, 07:54 PM
Ofermod- this is an Old English word which is only attested in a couple of places, notably in the poem The Battle of Maldon. Tolkien believed (not all scholars agree with him) that it meant 'overboldness, excessive courage,' and was a word of condemnation denoting rashness. Interestingly, modern Danish overmod means 'hubris', overweening pride.

Tolkien's essay on the word and the concept appear as a codicil to his dramatic poem "The Homecoming of Beohrtnoth."

MatthewM
11-10-2007, 05:10 PM
Thanks, William! I apprecite you taking the time and explaining it!