Where is Carn Dum?

[Aldagrim Proudfoot]

The rating under my name says Shade of Carn Dum. Where exactly is that? And where is Cardolan?

[ July 10, 2002: Message edited by: Aldagrim Proudfoot ]

[Daniel Telcontar]

Cardolan was one of the three kingdoms, that Arnor was split into. Carn Dum I don't remember.

[Feanaro]

Carn dum was near the western end of the Grey Mountains, north of Mount Gundabad.

[edmundfox]

Does anyone know where Umbar is? i cant find it on any of the maps i have, but im guessing its coastal or on a river or maybe an island.

[Daniel Telcontar]

it is south of Gondor; When Gondor was mighty, Umbar was in the most southern part of it; It is a port, or coastal city, where Ar-Pharazon landed his army to do battle against Sauron in the Second Age (I think). Later the Black Numenoreans took control of it and became the Corsairs of Umbar, although Gondor sometimes managed to seize control of it and stopping the raidings of the Corsairs.

[The Silver-shod Muse]

Umbar is where the corsair ships that Aragorn broght to the Battle of Pellenor Fields were from.

[ July 10, 2002: Message edited by: The Silver-shod Muse ]

[Angmar_the_Horrible]

Carn Dum is in the far north, at the left
end of the Grey Mountains. On the right, are
the Misty Mountains. Between was the realm
of Angmar, which capital it was.

Umbar is south of the Bay of Belfalas.

[Aldagrim Proudfoot]

Thanks for the help.

[Aragost]

Carn Dum was a fortress and the capital of Angmar located on the northern end of the Misty Mountains.The hobbits daggers were forged there. smilies/cool.gif

[Kuruharan]

The hobbits daggers were forged there.

The daggers were forged by men of Westernesse to fight against Carn-Dum.

[ July 12, 2002: Message edited by: Kuruharan ]

[piosenniel]

Here is a map showing the location of Carn Dûm:

http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/maps/mistymountains.gif