Admin Thread for WWXLV: The Fellowship of Saruman

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

...the Black Riders arrived at the Gate of Isengard while Gandalf was still a prisoner in the tower. In this account, Saruman, in fear and despair, and perceiving the full horror of service to Mordor, resolved suddenly to yield to Gandalf, and to beg for his pardon and help...

"The Wise may have good reason to believe that the halfling's trove is indeed the Great Ring of long debate, unlikely though that may seem to those who know less. But may we not hear the proofs? And I would ask this also. What of Saruman? He is learned in the lore of the Rings, yet he is not among us. What is his counsel - if he knows the things that we have heard?"

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Welcome at the admin thread of WWXLV: The Fellowship of Saruman, which is another game in the popular series of Werewolf games that have become regular on this forum.

This game is going to be a "basic" Werewolf game. What it means is that there are not going to be any secret twists, secret plots, special newly invented roles, multiple wolf packs or things like that. The roles will be finally distributed depending on the amount of people who sign up, but the basic schema should be something like: three wolves, a Seer, a Hunter and a Ranger. However, as some of you may already know, there are going to be several specific things in this game. And they can all be subsumed under one thing, basically: this game is going to be a roleplaying, or to use term favoured by some, "in-character" game. That means that all posts made by players in the game should be written in-character, as narration or direct speech, and everything you write should accord to the setting of the game. It means nothing more than that you give a different written form to your suspicions, accusations and other forms of interaction inside the game. But otherwise, it still remains the same good old Werewolf as we all know it.

And the setting? Well, after reading the thread title and the opening quotes, maybe you are beginning to see the idea. Yes, to speak plainly: in this game, we travel into a thrilling world of "what-if". What if Saruman the White chose to return to the path appointed to him, what if he traveled back to Rivendell and took a part in the Council of Elrond, and took part in determining the constitution of the Fellowship of the Ring? Yes, your guess is correct – in this game, you have the chance to take upon yourself a role of one of the members of the Fellowship, and experience once again, yet differently - and what's important, personally – the journey of the Messengers sent with the Ring! But this time – it's the Fellowship of Saruman!
Be aware, though. We know the Fellowship's journey was not easy from its very start – the Enemy's malice was following it and the will of the Ring stirred the evil and affected minds of the Companions along the way. And there was one among them, Boromir the Brave, who almost failed in the quest and stood too close to betrayal. But neither of the Fellowship was particularly strong, and only a little could have happened to sway the balance towards the disasterous end. Can we even guess, had the Fellowship consisted of different characters, what influence it would have on those taking the journey?
Join – for the quest to discover it now...

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CHARACTERS
As it was said, in this game, everyone is going to pick a character to play. But unlike most WW games, you are not going to make your own role: you are going to pick one of the characters already existing in Tolkien's world by the time the Fellowship set out on its quest. Saruman the Wise, the new voice in the Council of Elrond, has his own ideas of who is and who is not suitable for the journey. The Fellowship of Saruman is a Fellowship different from the one presented in the books, although there may be or may not be the same characters present. It is all about you, players, now, to determine how far the similarity will go. Everyone is compelled to post the name of the character he picks before the game starts on this thread. I will display the roles taken with the list of players who sign up, so that you know which characters are already "booked" (although if you for example desperately want to play Frodo and he is already taken, you can always try to convince the other player to let you play for Frodo instead of him). This is the opportunity for you to play for a character from the books that you like. The choices are almost unlimited (I will always tell you if there are problems with introducing the character you picked). You can choose a character from the original Fellowship, as well as other likely candidates (Saruman would probably fancy some of the powerful Elf-lords to join the company, so you may pick for example Glorfindel, Elladan or Elrohir; he may fancy older and more experienced characters to join, like Bilbo or Glóin; as well as introduce a "faithful servant" of his like Uglúk or – with some amount of carefulness – Gríma; you can pick a Rohir who, with Isengard being friendly again, was also invited to Rivendell; and as we are in a what-if story, who says it had to be Boromir and not Faramir who traveled to Rivendell – or even both... just unleash your imagination).
And one note. A thing that directly stems from this – technically, you can, and I believe it may be even better for the atmosphere, call each other in the thread not their screennames, but in the names of their characters. You know, not like "I suspect you, Nogrod" but "I suspect you, Radagast". I am afraid if it may not become confusing, on the other hand, as the characters presented are all known to us, I believe it won't be hard to remember who's who. It is merely an exchange of terms. But I would prefer you to say your opinions on the matter. Why I am presenting this is, that I thought: "if in-character playing, then total one".

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POSTING
As it has been said, posting in-character is compulsory in this game. That means, no anachronisms, everything you say in the game should be written in the way that it fits with the atmosphere and setting. When, for example, announcing to the others that you have to leave now for several hours, you may write something like:
"I am going to look around for some food," said Aragorn. "We need to gather more supplies before we continue. I will return before noon."
And so on. Not posting in the in-setting way will result in modfiring you out of the game. However, there is another extreme I have to mention here: I am discouraging likewise merely posting in-character with no in-game value. Of course you can make one or two posts just for atmosphere, but doing that all the time is likewise not encouraged: even though this is an in-character game, this is not the RPG section, this is Werewolf.

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VOTING
Votes are going to be given as usually, only, of course, in the in-character way; but the format will remain the same to make them apparent on the thread. The votes should be on a separate line, boldened, with the well known "++" in front of them, like this:

++Legate of Amon Lanc

Everyone may cast only one vote per Day (retractions are not allowed). There are no double-lynches; in the case of a tie, the lynchee is chosen randomly by the Mod.

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TECHNICAL THINGS
This game is going to differ in one thing which I hope is not going to become a problem. It's just the vocabulary. As the game is going to map the journey of the Fellowship through the lands of Middle-Earth, we are not going to have "Days" and "Nights", but "journeys" and "collisions": I will always say "The #th part of the journey begins, you may begin to post" and "the #th collision is upon you, stop posting". You can refer to the journeys by names of the places they took part in, like: "When we were in Eregion, Gimli voted for Aragorn, but now he is supporting him." Similarly, you can refer to collisions – I'm sure you'll find for yourselves how.

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ROLES
The basic arrangement of the roles can be changed depending on the number of players playing. But by default, this game should have:
Three Traitors (Werewolves), corrupted by the Ring, who try to appear like innocent Companions on the Journeys and PM each other during the Collisions, choosing one person that will be killed during every Collision.
A number of Ordinary Companions who post on the Journeys and try to get rid of all the Traitors one by one by voting them off.
One Seer, who has the ability to discern one person's role during every Collision, and is on the innocent side.
One Avenger (non-logical Hunter), who has the ability to take down with himself one other person in case he leaves the game. He can change his target at any time. At any time, be it during the Journey or during the Collision, if the Avenger leaves the game, his target does as well, be he a Traitor or not. The Avenger can always PM the Mod that he does not want to take down anyone with him. He is also on the side of the innocent Companions.
One Protector (Ranger), who has the ability to protect one person during every Collision. He can choose to protect himself, but he cannot protect the same person twice in a row. Protector is on the innocent side.
(note: I am using the terms "protector" and "avenger" because of technical reasons to avoid possible controversy: because terms like "ranger", while there may be Aragorn in the group, may prove confusing and create problems)
(note 2: The Gifted don't know each other's roles - neither of them. For such a small group, allowing that will be too much of an advantage.)

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GENERAL RULES

The game starts on March 23rd, at 9 PM GMT.

Every Journey lasts 24 real time hours and every Collision as well. We start with a (Pseudo-)Collision phase, where no kill is made and only the Seer's special ability is used.

Deadline will be 9 PM GMT.

During every Journey, the Fellowship chooses a person to get rid of by voting. The person who gets the most votes at the time of deadline leaves the Fellowship and can no longer post on the game thread as well as on the admin thread until the game ends.

Admin thread can be used only for explanation of out-game problems and apologies for non-participation.

Out-game discussion about the game is not allowed. Only the roles that are allowed to PM each other can PM about the game at Night. Greeting your playing friends "hello, wolf" in RL is strongly discouraged as well.

Person who does not vote for two days in a row will be eliminated from the game by the Mod (amnesty may be granted by the Mod).

Everyone must remain in Invisible mode as long as he is in the game.

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So, that's it! Are you prepared to join the Fellowship of Saruman on its long journey? You may start to sign up!

Any comments to the rules or other things are welcome as well.

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Players:

Thinlómien - Gildor Inglorion
Meneltarmacil - Uglúk
Nogrod - Tom Bombadil
McCaber - Elrohir
Aganzir - Lobelia Sackville-Baggins
Nerwen - Elladan
Groin Redbeard - Dáin II. Ironfoot
Sally - Théodred
A Little Green - Éomer
Gwathagor - Halbarad
THE Ka - Radagast
Gil-Galad - Gandalf
Rune son of Bjarne - Galadriel

[Nogrod]

This alternative fellowship looks quite entertaining: Lobelia and Tom Bombadil indeed! And Uglúk! :p Now we know Saruman had the tongue to speak people over to this and that but managing to convince Elrond's council that taking Uglúk in the fellowship is a great idea must be listed among the ultimate high-points in the art of rhetoric indeed...

I kind of remember that someone asked whether s/he could be Legolas - and if I'm not wrong it was just okay if someone wished to be one from the original fellowship as well. So there was no requirement to take an alternative choice.

I liked Nerwen's idea of being the other of the brothers while McCaber would be the other one. It would add an extra dimension to the game dynamics as well as to the narrations.

And just to remind you others of my honest commitment: I will try to play differently this time - so be prepared to nonsense rhymes... :)

[Nerwen]

Now we know Saruman had the tongue to speak people over to this and that but managing to convince Elrond's council that taking Uglúk in the fellowship is a great idea must be listed among the ultimate high-points in the art of rhetoric indeed...

I'll say.:D

I kind of remember that someone asked whether s/he could be Legolas.

Oh, that was me. My specific offer was as follows: For a very reasonable sum of money, payable via check or Pay Pal, I will undertake not to state the obvious constantly. For a bit extra I might even manage not to reminisce about the hair-raising adventures I've had with Aragorn. (See The Mellon Chronicles etc.)

Otherwise... things could get nasty.;)

Or perhaps you'd rather I was Elladan/Elrohir?


And just to remind you others of my honest commitment: I will try to play differently this time - so be prepared to nonsense rhymes... :)

Of course, Tom Wolfadil. What a great cover.

[Groin Redbeard]

Yay, the game is back up. Count me in, I'll be playing as Dain II Ironfoot.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Yay, the game is back up. Count me in, I'll be playing as Dain II Ironfoot.

BRUTAL!!! COOL!!!

:D

Wow, you surely did that for me, Groin! Great choice!

[Thinlómien]

:D Why's everybody so funny on this thread?

I have a suggestion. If Legate wishes that we call one another by our in-game names, I think it would be good if every one of us players would change their avatar, signature or location (or all of them, if they wish) to remind people of who they're playing. (Or then the boring option would be simply writing the character's name bolded to the start of the signature...)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I have a suggestion. If Legate wishes that we call one another by our in-game names, I think it would be good if every one of us players would change their avatar, signature or location (or all of them, if they wish) to remind people of who they're playing. (Or then the boring option would be simply writing the character's name bolded to the start of the signature...)

A good idea. I'm not sure whether everyone is willing to undertake such a thing for a mere WW game, though. :) (And by the way, a pity of losing your current location it would be, Lommy ;) ) I thought about at least the "boring option" as well, for easier orientation - I meant, also, the boring option that everyone writes his character name to the post title, so that it's at the beginning and easily visible.

There's also another thing, we used to remove our signatures in my last game (which was also roleplaying one), so that the signatures don't interrupt the flow of it. Thinking of it, maybe it will be better to do that as well - also for the purpose of people who could for example read the game later. Your avvies, signatures and locations won't be the same anymore anyway at the time. But for your immediate orientation, if you decide to, changing avvies or so is a good proposal, I think. It's upon you.

[Nerwen]

I think it's a good idea. How about using quotes from the characters as our signatures?

Anyway, I'm going to be Elladan– unless McCaber has a sudden deep objection to being Elrohir.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I think it's a good idea. How about using quotes from the characters as our signatures?

Well, I'd like to see you providing a quote from your character ;)

Maybe about your character, at maximum :) But the only sentence that comes to my mind is "So much alike were they..." And that really won't be of much help :p

[Nerwen]

Despite my character's taciturnity, I actually did have a direct quote in mind. :p

"Yes, the Dead ride behind. They have been summoned," said Elladan.

[Groin Redbeard]

:D Why's everybody so funny on this thread?

I have a suggestion. If Legate wishes that we call one another by our in-game names, I think it would be good if every one of us players would change their avatar, signature or location (or all of them, if they wish) to remind people of who they're playing. (Or then the boring option would be simply writing the character's name bolded to the start of the signature...)

I love the idea!:D I'll start mine right away, though I'm not sure if I can find a quote.:confused:

[McCaber]

I'm going to be Elladan– unless McCaber has a sudden deep objection to being Elrohir.

In fact, Elrohir was the one I was leaning towards. So it looks like we're brothers, Nerwen.

[Nerwen]

I love the idea!:D I'll start of mine right away, though I'm not sure if I can find a quote.:confused:

Something from here, perhaps?:

"No," said Dáin. "You are the father of our Folk, and we have bled for you, and will again. But we will not enter Khazad-dûm. You will not enter Khazad-dûm. Only I have looked through the shadow of the Gate. Beyond the shadow it waits for you still: Durin's Bane. The world must change and some other power than ours must come before Durin's folk walk again in Moria."

Though there's more said about Dáin than by him.

In fact, Elrohir was the one I was leaning towards. So it looks like we're brothers, Nerwen.

Well met, brother! This should be interesting. :D

[Thinlómien]

It is a pity I have only seen one picture of Gildor ever and it was quite horrible. So I spent my latest French lesson by trying to draw him... the results were horrible. If I ever manage to draw a Gildor I'm even somewhat satisfied with, I think I will make it my avvie...

Nerwen and McCaber are brothers? Great! And I'm somewhat amused by the fact that Elladan and Elrohir didn't make it to the fellowship formed by Elrond, but Saruman is willing to send them... :smokin: And Legate: who shall be the Ring Bearer? Or is it a secret?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Despite my character's taciturnity, I actually did have a direct quote in mind. :p

Ooh, of course, that wouldn't occur to me. Nice. But what about poor Elrohir? Well, actually now I think there may be something... (at least after this game people will know what they say in all the books :) )

And Legate: who shall be the Ring Bearer? Or is it a secret?

Well, I thought that after the roles are set (or when there are at least more of you people), you could choose a Ring Bearer for yourselves. Or at least offer some candidates, and I'll leave it to the Council to make the final decision. :)

[Groin Redbeard]

Well I'm all done with changing my location, avator, and signiture to match my character! My signiture isn't exactely a happy one, but I think it says something about Dáin II Ironfoot's worth.:)

Hey Legate, should we start Private Messaging some people to get them to join the game?

[THE Ka]

It is a pity I have only seen one picture of Gildor ever and it was quite horrible. So I spent my latest French lesson by trying to draw him... the results were horrible. If I ever manage to draw a Gildor I'm even somewhat satisfied with, I think I will make it my avvie...

Sorry to interrupt everything, I'll just be reading along with this game since I have far too many things to do in life right now, sadly... Anyways...

Not to be bother or anything, but if you don't mind I could draw Gildor for you if you like. I'll have some freetime tomorrow and could make you an avvie.
If not, it's perfectly fine, since I have no idea what Gildor is going to look like and yours probably will be more suitable.


~ Ka

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Sorry to interrupt everything, I'll just be reading along with this game since I have far too many things to do in life right now, sadly... Anyways...

*puts on the Voice* And are you sure you don't want to join? Even if you are busy, one can always find some time to squeeze in one more thing to his timetable. This game is surely going to be interesting, and if you have the time to read, why not play as well? It's just making a few posts, that doesn't take much more time than reading.

[Nerwen]

It is a pity I have only seen one picture of Gildor ever and it was quite horrible. So I spent my latest French lesson by trying to draw him... the results were horrible. If I ever manage to draw a Gildor I'm even somewhat satisfied with, I think I will make it my avvie...

What's wrong with Alan Lee's version?

http://www.tuckborough.net/images/gildor.jpg

[Thinlómien]

What's wrong with Alan Lee's version?

http://www.tuckborough.net/images/gildor.jpgNothing. I never saw that. Actually, I like it very very much. I did not know that Gildor is such a cutie. ;) (The one I saw was in a collectible card game and the picture is downright horrible...) The only slight objection I have against that Gildor is that the colours are so light that it might not look good in 64x64 size. I could try.

Not to be bother or anything, but if you don't mind I could draw Gildor for you if you like. I'll have some freetime tomorrow and could make you an avvie.
If not, it's perfectly fine, since I have no idea what Gildor is going to look like and yours probably will be more suitable.Now that'd be lovely. If you really are willing to do it, please do. :) I'm sure it'd be lovely. As to how he looks like, well, just don't make him blonde...

[Nerwen]

How's this look? I darkened it.

[Thinlómien]

Everybody seems to be putting a lot of effort to my avvie. :D Thank you very much, Nerwen. I will use that unless THE Ka has a terrible itch to draw Gildor and creates a masterpiece (like she usually does)...

Anyway, I like your new look, Nerwen, and that of Groin's too... This will sure be a great game. :D

[Nogrod]

Nice avvies people!

It was pretty hard to find a nice pic of Tom but this will have to do until / if I find a better one.

I'm not sure if changing the locations or sigs is enhancing the feel of the game as they are seldom looked at but changing the avvie sure catches the eye and reminds us of the roles.

Let's hope this RPG-style (in-character -style that is so as not fuzz the border between RPG's and WW) doesn't scare too many people. I'm really looking forwards to this.

[A Little Green]

I had already decided to have a pause because I'm quite busy... But this idea sounded so awesome that I just have to join. :rolleyes: Thanks a lot, Legate. There's goodbye to my schoolwork... Nah, at least I have an excuse now. :p

I'm not sure yet on who I'll be, I have too many ideas. Gollum would be nice, or some sweet orc or the Mouth of Sauron or even Bergil or Forlong. I considered Old Man Willow too but then thought that his posts would probably not be too constructive...

We'll see. I'll try to make up my mind soon.

[McCaber]

It looks like everyone's getting into character already.

Let's get this started as soon as possible, then.

[Thinlómien]

It looks like everyone's getting into character already.

Let's get this started as soon as possible, then.Indeed. We just need a little more players... ;)

I like this character stuff so much. I will change my signature and location as soon as I have decided which ones would be best...

[Groin Redbeard]

Hey Legate, since this is the fellowship of Saruman, and you are the moderater, does this mean that your character will be Saruman? ;)

Indeed. We just need a little more players...
I'm sending out PMs to some players who are usually active in WW. Hopfully that will get one or two new players.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Folks, this is all sooo great! I just arrived home and all this stuff simply jumped at me from this page. Wonderful!!! Wonderful!!!!!!!

And yes, I think I should start sending out invitations... any suggestions on possible victims? ;)

And LG, welcome to the Fellowship :) Just find yourself a suitable character... but not any Mouth of Sauron, for Eru's sake. We are still against Sauron. You can pick yourself a Snaga from Isengard, or Bergil or Forlong, but don't pick from your enemies...

EDIT: x-ed with Groin: Well, I am the Mod here, so it should be me sending it :rolleyes: ... anyway. Well, my character, technically, will be Saruman, if you take it like that. But not really. You'll see.

[satansaloser2005]

I must confess a grave sin. Okay, it's not grave, and it's not a sin, but I might as well tell you all anyway, before the games starts and I make a slight fool of myself. I've....*whispers* never really read a lot of Tolkien stuff. *ducks various flying objects, then unwhispers* However, my good friend here at college (most of you have "met" her already....my pet duck, as I refer to her on the board) helps me figure out a lot of the Tolkien references and stuff, and she's been helping me a lot with who to pick for the game and stuff. So....before I say who I (or we) have chosen, I may as well put that forward now and tell you all in advance that this may be an extremely interesting game as far as my performance goes. Let me assure you that while I might (more like I will) make some character mistakes and such throughout the game, I'll do my best (with Emily's help of course) to be nice and true to the character of my choosing (whom, for the record, she suggested, but I, after consideration, made the final decision upon). Also, while Emily will be helping me with staying in-character and such things, my reasoning, hunches, accusations, and actual game-play will still be me and me alone, as I don't think it would be fair to get extra help with the game itself when all of you have to rely only on your own wits.

That being said, if you all are still okay with having me in the game, Théodred for me, if you please. (Because, well yeah....if Saruman's not evil anymore, Théodred would still be alive, so unless I'm mistaken he's game. Correct me if I'm wrong.)

[McCaber]

You should be fine, as Théodred died a good four months after the council of Elrond.

[Nerwen]

You're fine, time-wise. And Théodred was in the film, so you should be able to get an avatar. The problem is that there's not all that much said about him, and his only direct appearance in the books is in Unfinished Tales, describing the battle where he was killed... er... which now never happened... :confused:

Here's what we do know about "you"–

–You're forty-one years old.
–You're an experienced warrior and commander; in fact you're Second Marshall of the Mark (second-in-command after the King).
–You're devoted to your father, and did your best to counter Gríma Wormtongue's influence on him.
–Saruman saw you (with Éomer) as the main obstacle to his conquest of Rohan. At the first battle of the Fords of Isen, he gave special orders that you were to be killed at all costs. (Or rather, he would have done so, had this battle taken place in our version.)
–You're brave– had you, in fact, died, it would have been a very heroic death.
–You're quite likely rather suspicious of Elves.
–Until recently, you would have thought hobbits were a myth.

I hope this helps.:)

[Gwathagor]

If there's still room, then sign up Gwathagor (ME). I might play as Halbarad, but I'll have to consider; there are so many options.

[Gwathagor]

Better idea! I'm going to play as BEOWULF! Example of in-character play: "I kill stuff! Gold is good! Dragons destroy inherently flawed pre-christian civilizations!" Ha ha. Man, that would be sweet.

[Nerwen]

Welcome aboard, Gwathagor.:)

And, sorry, but no, you can't play Beowulf.:rolleyes:

Lily, if you want to be somebody... er... ethically challenged, let us say, what about Gríma?

[satansaloser2005]

Better idea! I'm going to play as BEOWULF! Example of in-character play: "I kill stuff! Gold is good! Dragons destroy inherently flawed pre-christian civilizations!" Ha ha. Man, that would be sweet.

See a therapist, dearie. See a therapist. ;)

Thanks for the help all! Emily gave me a bunch of bio stuff, so I should be (hopefully) okay as far as my character goes. But there was some stuff in there that she'd told me and I'd forgotten already. Blasted midterms draining my brain. :p

[satansaloser2005]

Lily, if you want to be somebody... er... ethically challenged, let us say, what about Gríma?

Oh gravy, that'd be fun. *plots*

[Nerwen]

Oh gravy, that'd be fun. *plots*

It would, of course, be quite out of character for Théodred not to want to lynch Gríma...:D

[satansaloser2005]

It would, of course, be quite out of character for Théodred not to want to lynch Gríma...:D

Prexactly....I could seriously have some fun with Little Miss Green. Up to you though of course, dear; pick whatever character you think you'll have the most fun with. I've still got Menel's pretty little Orc to play with. :p

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Sally, no worries. If nothing else, having only the overall idea or, even, (and I'd never expect myself to say that ;) ) knowing at least the movie portrayal of the characters would be sufficient (however, I hasten to point out that this is a concession, not a rule! Whoever has read LotR more than once has no excuse from me!!! ;) ). And personally I think Théodred is a very good pick - and as there's only very little about him in the books, you are not bound much by any character specifications. And I believe Saruman would like to add Théodred to the Fellowship, as kind of a "remedy", to show good face to Théoden (and even Théodred himself).

And only one warning - I think that it's not necessary to point that out, but just to mention it - while in-character issues with other characters inevitably have their place here, this is still a WW game and don't let the roleplaying slip out of hand; you still suspect those you suspect in real. But like I said, there is sure no need to mention that. :)

Oh, and welcome aboard, Gwathagor! I will sign you up as Halbarad with a question mark, you can still change if you wish.

Btw, I am getting the feeling that the consistency of the Fellowship begins to somewhat resemble the Grey Company. Is that saying something about the nature of this alternative Fellowship?

[Aganzir]

I suppose I've got so used to the thought of playing Lobelia by now (see avatar? see location?) that you can take the question mark away.

Here (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y62/Aganzir/lobelia.jpg)'s a bigger version of the avvie.

[THE Ka]

I'm sure it'd be lovely. As to how he looks like, well, just don't make him blonde...

Oh no, I have a problem drawing blonde elves anyways. Gildor may be related to the golden haired bunch, but he's definately having dark hair.
It's definately not going to be as wonderful as the amazing Mr. Lee's, I admire him too much to try and emulate, but I promise I'll put good effort into it.

*puts on the Voice* And are you sure you don't want to join? Even if you are busy, one can always find some time to squeeze in one more thing to his timetable. This game is surely going to be interesting, and if you have the time to read, why not play as well? It's just making a few posts, that doesn't take much more time than reading.

*puts on THE Ka Voice of Explanation*
Ugh, I know. I'd love to, but I have a big application I have to finish as soon as humanly possible. Hmmm, well, I could join and finish it up since both require reading and writing.:p
The only thing is, I don't really want to hinder the game by just posting and not going too indepth. It's the playing style I've come to recognize over the years. I read a bunch, think over it, watch and post. I tried being more hasty last time and well, most of you saw how that went. Complete nonesense. :( *puts bag over head*
Plus I have work, and my hours are going to have people wanting to stick me on a pike or push me off a cliff to a small but terrifying white rabbit.

Oh what the heck, I'll join. :D

I don't have role yet, so don't even ask. Possibly WereEnt? I miss being an ent, but I guess for everyone's sake I'll try something else. Radagast comes to mind, but I doubt that after having to take him along to ME before, that Saruman could stand to have him in his fellowship. The idea of it is certainly entertaining...

~ Ka

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I don't have role yet, so don't even ask. Possibly WereEnt? I miss being an ent, but I guess for everyone's sake I'll try something else. Radagast comes to mind, but I doubt that after having to take him along to ME before, that Saruman could stand to have him in his fellowship. The idea of it is certainly entertaining...

I don't see any problem with Radagast. After all, Saruman sent him to bring Gandalf. No, there is absolutely no problem with Radagast. He's free to be taken, in fact, I quite counted with that.

And concerning your style, well, just try to do your best :) Radagast does not seem to have been much of a talkative patron, and rather a silly tramp. So, no problem... I will add you to the list, okay? :)

[Gwathagor]

Prexactly....I could seriously have some fun with Little Miss Green. Up to you though of course, dear; pick whatever character you think you'll have the most fun with. I've still got Menel's pretty little Orc to play with. :p

And here I was hoping that compulsory role-playing would restrain Sally from her customary lunatic posts. :rolleyes: This could be even more disastrous than usual.

[Nogrod]

Sally: is Theodred going to be carrying a duck along in this game as well? :)

Okay eleven players in... this looks really promising. Just a few more and we'll get a game we will all remember a long time.

Btw. we had a discussion here at my place earlier this evening and LG started to think that she might play Eomer. So Eomer and Theodred / Elladan & Elrohir... Nice indeed!

What a fellowship! Had Tolkien just thought of this one (with Lobelia... :D) himself.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Okay eleven players in... this looks really promising. Just a few more and we'll get a game we will all remember a long time.

Yes, I hope so. I have sent out a few invitations, so I hope at least someone will reply... as soon as we get at least a few more players, we can start. So, get ready!

Btw. we had a discussion here at my place earlier this evening and LG started to think that she might play Eomer. So Eomer and Theodred / Elladan & Elrohir... Nice indeed!

What a fellowship! Had Tolkien just thought of this one (with Lobelia... :D) himself.

Oh, sure. That will be nice. And yes - I think this company is something that would have been remembered only for its composition... :D

[THE Ka]

I don't see any problem with Radagast. After all, Saruman sent him to bring Gandalf. No, there is absolutely no problem with Radagast. He's free to be taken, in fact, I quite counted with that.

And concerning your style, well, just try to do your best :) Radagast does not seem to have been much of a talkative patron, and rather a silly tramp. So, no problem... I will add you to the list, okay?


Hee hee, that made me laugh. :p Well, I guess after spending all fo your work day with animals, (and talking to them), you are a bit silly. It's required.

Thanks for adding me!

Lommy, sorry if it is taking longer than expected for your avvie, I just got off of work and am working on it as I speak. I should have it up and ready for your approval tomorrow. I won't make it too big so it doesn't take up anymore loading space for the thread. :)

~ Ka

[THE Ka]

Sorry for double posting...

*puts down pencil in a huff*

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/The_Ka/avviegildor.jpg

Here you are Lommy.

It's really not its best this small, so if you want to edit it yourself, or if someone else would like to, here is a direct link:

Gildor (http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/The_Ka/Gildor.jpg)

Hrmm, on second thought I think you should keep the Alan Lee Gildor. Mine looks like a Mona Lisa for some odd reason.

~ Ka

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hrmm, on second thought I think you should keep the Alan Lee Gildor. Mine looks like a Mona Lisa for some odd reason.

It indeed does! :eek: :D

[Aganzir]

What a fellowship! Had Tolkien just thought of this one (with Lobelia... :D) himself.
What's so funny about Lobelia? :Merisu:

Hrmm, on second thought I think you should keep the Alan Lee Gildor. Mine looks like a Mona Lisa for some odd reason.
It's the way you have shaded it. ;)

Anyway - Lommy & I are going to be away from next Thursday to Sunday. I don't know if anyone else would need a break over Easter, but if the game is already running by then, we would miss one whole day and probably half of another.

[Groin Redbeard]

Hrmm, on second thought I think you should keep the Alan Lee Gildor. Mine looks like a Mona Lisa for some odd reason.

~ Ka

You should take that as a compliment! :D

[Nogrod]

What's so funny about Lobelia? :Merisu:Looking at her grim expression in your avvie... well nothing. She's really scary! :eek:

[A Little Green]

Gríma was a lovely idea, thanks Nerwen :) I still have to decide between him, Éomer and Ghân-Buri-Ghân :p

Leaning towards Éomer at the moment... But not at all decided yet. When do I have to know?

Btw, lovely avvies people :D

[A Little Green]

Fine, I've made my decision.

Éomer it will be.


EDIT: Hey, I seem to have become a Wight!!

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Fine, I've made my decision.

Éomer it will be.


EDIT: Hey, I seem to have become a Wight!!

Congratulations :)

And I have added your character in the list.

Well, where are some people to join? I would like to start ASAP. Does anyone have some good tips on whom else I should ask to join?

Anyway - Lommy & I are going to be away from next Thursday to Sunday. I don't know if anyone else would need a break over Easter, but if the game is already running by then, we would miss one whole day and probably half of another.

If we start until that time (which I would like to), I can make a break on these days, or at least on some of these days. As Aganzir says, I think that would depend also if someone else is going to be missing over Easter. So, anyone?

[THE Ka]

So, anyone?

I'm not sure, though I am quite sure I'll be gone around the deadline time and/or completely out of my mind by then. I have a mathematics final on Thursday. So, I'll be gone for that day.

It's the way you have shaded it.

Yes, I realized that after I'd scanned it...

How about we make it easy, and both agree that Gildor is Italian. :smokin:

It reminds me of a long, long time ago, when I had art class and the assignment was to make a clay bust of ourselves or a random classmate. Mine went through this weird phase of looking like an old french man, then he turned into 'jesus'. Needless to say my art teacher was okay with it, but mostly confused.

I really wonder what Radagast is going to look like though. Any bets? :Merisu:

What's so funny about Lobelia?

I think it's neat and kind of amusing, considering what happened when Saruman set up camp in the Shire (sort of like Lobelia getting her say). Though, I really hope you include *your* pink umbrella. It wouldn't be Lobelia without her umbrella.


Thanks for reviewing the horrible drawing everyone, I posted it so late at night I probably wouldn't notice much.

~ Ka

[Gwathagor]

The only pictures I can find of Halbarad online look retarded.:confused:

[THE Ka]

The only pictures I can find of Halbarad online look retarded.:confused:


http://www.bracegirdle.it/Arda/images/halbarad.jpg

Well, maybe the standards of a 'horrible' drawing have changed, but that doesn't look retarded. He's quite putting Aragorn to shame.

Though, it's Anke-Katrin Eissemann. She makes all of us feel inferior. :p

Hope this works, if not well, you can always draw your own.

For example, the pictures I found of Radagast made him look like Santa Claus crossed with Sasquatch. Needless to say, the matter of making my own became top priority.

~ Ka

[Nerwen]

And very good it is, too.:)

Meanwhile Agan's new avatar looks pretty much the way I've always pictured Lobelia.

Hmmn. Théodred and Éomer. I foresee that we're going to be hearing a lot about horses...

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Oh, I really like all these avvies! The Radagast is really beautiful, Ka!

The only pictures I can find of Halbarad online look retarded.:confused:
I quite like the picture of him by Quinton Hoover - I have it on my page, you can look it up here (http://fellowship.ic.cz/obrazky/dunadan.jpg). Even though he looks a little bit like Vinnetou, I like him. The question is, whether it will look as good when you make it smaller...

[Nerwen]

Here's a close-up of the face.

[A Little Green]

My avatar is a bit messy, or so I heard (it took Noggie, Lommy and Agan around a minute to realise where the Éomer in the picture was :rolleyes:) so here (http://www.tuckborough.net/images/eomer-lee.jpg) is a bigger pic.

[Nerwen]

How about cropping it?

in fact, try this:

[Aganzir]

I think it's neat and kind of amusing, considering what happened when Saruman set up camp in the Shire (sort of like Lobelia getting her say). Though, I really hope you include *your* pink umbrella. It wouldn't be Lobelia without her umbrella.
Of course I will! :) Funnily enough, I didn't even think about Lobelia & Saruman's ah so friendly terms when I chose to play her.

And I just love that Radagast, Ka - it made me laugh, and still does. Is there any possibility to see a bigger version of it?

Meanwhile Agan's new avatar looks pretty much the way I've always pictured Lobelia.
Thanks. I admit I've never had a clear image about what she should look like, but I was having a boring day at school, and... she just came to look like that.

I quite like the picture of him by Quinton Hoover
Ah, nostalgia; I have no idea why, but that picture amused me very much when I was smaller. It caused me and a friend to make jokes of Halbarad.

My avatar is a bit messy, or so I heard (it took Noggie, Lommy and Agan around a minute to realise where the Éomer in the picture was) so here (http://www.tuckborough.net/images/eomer-lee.jpg) is a bigger pic.
It rather took me a minute to realise what picture that was. :D But after that it was easy to find Éomer there.

[Groin Redbeard]

I just have one thing to beg of you Aganzir: please don't have Lobelia stealing any of the fellowship's spoon's!!:D It will be hard enough, killing Were Wolves and all, without having someone stealing our spoons!;)

[Aganzir]

I just have one thing to beg of you Aganzir: please don't have Lobelia stealing any of the fellowship's spoon's!!:D It will be hard enough, killing Were Wolves and all, without having someone stealing our spoons!;)
Oh no - Lobelia is not a thief! She's a tragical, misunderstood character. It was that filthy Otho who stole them and even put nasty rumours about his wife in circulation. Good that he died, that swine.

Besides, I don't even think the Fellowship should have taken silver spoons with them.

[Nogrod]

Gwath please take the picture sent by The Ka and not the card-game version by Legate. I mean the first one is just awesome and the other one is just.. well, let's not swear on this family friendly site... :)

Here (IMG]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/NogrodU/halbaradtry6.jpg[/IMG]) is a 63x63 version of it.

Darn it seems not to work...

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/NogrodU/halbaradtry6.jpg

Well at least you can find it from here...

Sorry to be such a beginner with these...

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Gwath please take the picture sent by The Ka and not the card-game version by Legate. I mean the first one is just awesome and the other one is just.. well, let's not swear on this family friendly site... :)

Let me tell you, Mr. Nogrod, that your feelings of art seem very, very bad to me :p Not that I believe the other picture to be bad, but I like Hoover's picture quite a lot (even though, like I said, he looks like he's greeting the white colonists of America).

[Gil-Galad]

Sigh... sure sign me up

I shall be Gandalf, Maiar of Manwe and Varda, The Elf of the Wand, The Grey Pilgrim, The Grey Wanderer, Stormcrow, Keeper of the Sacred Fire, holder of the red ring Narya, god among hobbits.


TREMBLE AND DESPAIR YE MIGHTY.

[Nogrod]

Let me tell you, Mr. Nogrod, that your feelings of art seem very, very bad to me
...
I like Hoover's picture quite a lot (even though, like I said, he looks like he's greeting the white colonists of America).Hah... Like you'd made my case already...:rolleyes:

But whatever. Everyone chooses with her/his preferences. Maybe it's just that I have got to know that Hoover's pic from a lousily drawn card-game or something but it really is pretty bad to my taste... unlike the other one posted by The Ka. :)

De gustibus non est disputandum - but what should we argue about then, the facts ("oh no the boiling point of water is not 100 degrees but 92!")? :D

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Sigh... sure sign me up

I shall be Gandalf, Maiar of Manwe and Varda, The Elf of the Wand, The Grey Pilgrim, The Grey Wanderer, Stormcrow, Keeper of the Sacred Fire, holder of the red ring Narya, god among hobbits.


TREMBLE AND DESPAIR YE MIGHTY.

Oooh, great, Mr. Galad! Welcome!!!


Maybe it's just that I have got to know that Hoover's pic from a lousily drawn card-game or something
Too late. Now, you have managed to destroy all the respect I gathered to you in the past... what a pity, what a pity. I have never seen a better drawn card-game, in fact, I have never seen so many so good pictures together like in this game. There are some bad ones, I know very well, but the good ones are in majority. Sorry, Nogrod. This means the end between the two of us.

;) :D

[Nogrod]

Sorry, Nogrod. This means the end between the two of us.;)That's too bad... For a few (lousy) illustrations? :)

Okay, I'll try to recover and concentrate on the "tralla-lally" of Tom after this. Happily you're just only the omnipotent mod in the game so I'm pretty safe as you can't do anything... :D

Yes, an added smilie to go with the former ones...

[Gwathagor]

Thanks for the Halbarad pictures everybody.

[Nerwen]

Now you have to choose an avatar– ensuring that either Nogrod or Legate will never speak to you ever again– ditch Beowulf for a quote by or about Halbarad, and fix up your location.

Somehow I doubt Halbarad's a fan of the Pogues.:D

[Nogrod]

Now you have to choose an avatar– ensuring that either Nogrod or Legate will never speak to you ever again

We may consider it after a year has passed or something... :D

[Nogrod]

Btw. should someone ask Durelin to join as she's both a great WW-player and a fine RPG-writer? And it's always fun to play with her.

Or Valier? Wouldn't this be just a game for her?

Okay, I'll send them a PM if you Legate haven't done it already...

[Groin Redbeard]

Yay, I'm glad you accepted the invitation Gil-Galad!:) I also sent a PM The Might, so hopefully we should have enough players before too long.

[satansaloser2005]

Sally: is Theodred going to be carrying a duck along in this game as well? :)


As much as I might fancy the challenge ;), no. Don't worry. No ducks this game, except the one who might occasionally whisper in my ear, "WHAT? Théodred would NEVER do that?" So I'll be foul-free, but deaf. :p

As for Easter, I don't think I'll have a problem with it, but I'm definitely not against delaying/pausing the game for those who do have a problem with it. Whatever's best for y'all.

[THE Ka]

Sigh... sure sign me up
god among hobbits.


TREMBLE AND DESPAIR YE MIGHTY.

Oh hush down Olórin, and please, we've heard enough about your strange little folk from a place called Shire... You're as bad as I am talking about birds...

Sorry, Nogrod. This means the end between the two of us.


*shakes head*

You both shame me. It's just a drawing! I'm sure Gwath will pick one he thinks is best in his own opinion.

Just as long as it's not Rococo or some other 'inspired by' Ruben movement, I see no reason for an arguement.

Of course I will! Funnily enough, I didn't even think about Lobelia & Saruman's ah so friendly terms when I chose to play her.

Yay! :D


Well, still, I think it is a good choice of character. I've also wondered about what Lobelia could have thought, given the liberty from Frodo or Bilbo's interpretation (as is the same with Radagast quoted by Gandalf at CoE).

Here you are:

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa168/The_Ka/Radagast.jpg

I was originally going to have Radagast saying something, but that seemed more 'Gandalfish', so instead I thought it would suit him better to be listening.

Though really, I think the raven's telling him an 'uncloaking' joke about Gandalf he heard on the Crazy Captions thread and Rada is simply promising to keep it a secret. :p

~ Ka

[Gwathagor]

OR I could choose a completely different picture for my avatar, thereby insulting and estranging BOTH Nogrod and Legate. We are very democratic in the offense we give. :cool: Anybody got any good Halbarad quotes?

[Gwathagor]

Just as long as it's not Rococo or some other 'inspired by' Ruben movement, I see no reason for an arguement.


Rubens. Yuck. I can imagine Halbarad as a pantalooned courtier romancing billowy women in the Garden of Love, and it's not a pleasant picture.

[THE Ka]

"I listen to The Pogues on a regular basis." ~Halbarad

That's good enough for me! :D

Rubens. Yuck. I can imagine Halbarad as a pantalooned courtier romancing billowy women in the Garden of Love, and it's not a pleasant picture.

Then you m'friend, have more strength than I do.
I would have to put out my eyes at the fanciful pantaloons... Then there's the thought of what would happen if the 'Grey Company' had been Rubenified. *shudder*

Okay, no more of this, it's too scary for 12 am or any hour.

~ Ruben Cursing Ka

[Nerwen]

"I listen to The Pogues on a regular basis." ~Halbarad

I stand corrected.:D

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Btw. should someone ask Durelin to join as she's both a great WW-player and a fine RPG-writer? And it's always fun to play with her.

Or Valier? Wouldn't this be just a game for her?

Okay, I'll send them a PM if you Legate haven't done it already...

Oh yees, Durelin, how could I have forgotten about her... it's that I haven't seen her around for a looong time. And Valier, yes, that's a good idea as well. Have you already sent something or should I?

[Valier]

Thanks for the invite, but I must decline. (although it looks like fun) I've been extremely busy as of late and want to spend more time on my rpg. Sorry and thanks again.:D

[Nogrod]

Sad to hear that Valier... :(

Promise to reconsider. :)

But wow just look at this thread with the new avvies! It's looking good indeed! Just a few more players and we can be off!

[Gwathagor]

MORE PEOPLE NEED TO JOIN SO WE CAN START THE GAME!!:mad::mad::mad:

[Gil-Galad]

i think my avatar is fine... gandalf was a superhero enough, just without the cape.

[satansaloser2005]

MORE PEOPLE NEED TO JOIN SO WE CAN START THE GAME!!:mad:


I was thinking something along those lines. Only not so angrily. ;)


P.S. Gil: that made me giggle :)

[Nerwen]

i think my avatar is fine... gandalf was a superhero enough, just without the cape.

Yes, but the avatars are to remind us what roles people are playing.

Sally, do you need a quote for Théodred?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

MORE PEOPLE NEED TO JOIN SO WE CAN START THE GAME!!:mad::mad::mad:

Well yes, indeed. But this far all people I sent PMs to either declined or did not reply at all (possibly they are not around). I wanted to have at least, let's say, fourteen players. If just three or so people joined, it'll be okay. But what if this takes long? Should I start just with the little number of you? Or should I wait - more people told me that after several weeks they would be able to play, but does it make sense to wait like that?

[Thinlómien]

Well yes, indeed. But this far all people I sent PMs to either declined or did not reply at all (possibly they are not around). I wanted to have at least, let's say, fourteen players. If just three or so people joined, it'll be okay. But what if this takes long? Should I start just with the little number of you? Or should I wait - more people told me that after several weeks they would be able to play, but does it make sense to wait like that?In my opinion, it does not make sense to wait for weeks. I would advise you to wait 'til Easter is over (and I and Agan are back ;)) and see if you can lure more players and reconsider the situation early next week...

And I still haven't decided which Gildor I'm going to use... :confused:

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Allright I have not read all the details yet, but from what Legate told me and what I have glanced upon this game look fairly enjoyable and as such a good one to chose for a comeback.

However I do reserve the right to back out if the start of the game ends up coliding whith a big paper. . .University is what have kept me away from WW for all these months and how long and lonely they have been in my cold barrow.

Anyways I shall be Galadriel!

Oh yeah and here is my prediction of how I am going to play:

I am going to end up in a figh with Noggy, trust Lommy way too much, agree with everything Ka says, get slightly annoyed with Gil-Galad and use all my might to get Menel lynched. . . and of course be very confused about the rest of you.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Great! Welcome, Rune! I added you on the list. Oh, and, changing avvies of course is just players' initiative and it's optional: and actually in your case, as we know Galadriel was adored by Gimli, now, if she had a beard, who knows, maybe he'd have liked her even more... :cool: :D

[Nogrod]

I agree with Lommy that you Legate should wait untilt the Passover is over... :)

But not longer.

Maybe you should start the game on Monday or even Sunday evening if it's the Night phase we start with.

I might try to persuade some people still if I'd know whom you have already teased with this.

*~*

Nice to see you in WW again Rune! And I can see where your predictions come from! But c'mon, who can disagree or suspect the old Tom? :D

[Gil-Galad]

Yes, but the avatars are to remind us what roles people are playing.

Sally, do you need a quote for Théodred?

Alrighty then... it is done.

[Groin Redbeard]

I agree with Lommy that you Legate should wait untilt the Passover is over... :)

That's fine with me, but we could have one more option. ;) Legate spoke about choosing us choosing the ring beerer, and this would be a perfect time to start debating which one of us it should be. Just a little something to fill in the time.:) What do you think?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I agree with Lommy that you Legate should wait untilt the Passover is over... :)

But not longer.

Maybe you should start the game on Monday or even Sunday evening if it's the Night phase we start with.
Well yes, I think even if no one joins, I could start on Sunday evening with a Night phase. Is this okay with everyone? And what about the DL - is it okay with everyone if I make it 9 PM GMT?

Btw I suggest all people who did not read all the rules yet to do so until that time. I'm thinking now mainly about things like the conventions of calling each other with character and not player names etc. ... (it will be quite silly if someone forgot this rule and that on the game thread)

And what about this voting and retracting? Can everyone cast his final vote whether to allow retractions or not?

And, of course, if there's anything else to the rules from anyone...

I might try to persuade some people still if I'd know whom you have already teased with this.

A lot of people. I covered a large bunch of people from the most active members and WW players. There were some to whom I did not write first because I knew they are away, but with some I eventually did later just in case they show up (or their status is "N/A" and they are not posting, but who knows, maybe they are around and just not posting). Some people did not reply to me; probably because they are not present. Tell me whom you want to try and I will tell you if I PMed them or not, it will be easier :D

Alrighty then... it is done.
Good one, Gil ;)

[THE Ka]

And I still haven't decided which Gildor I'm going to use...

No worries, just keep Alan Lee. Mine kind of creeps me out now anyways... An Italian Gildor?...:p
Besides, everytime I see yours I think of Alan Lee, which cheers up my day.

Rune's playing?! Awesome! :D I've only played with him once, and sadly it wasn't for long because of a family emergency.


I am going to end up in a figh with Noggy, trust Lommy way too much, agree with everything Ka says, get slightly annoyed with Gil-Galad and use all my might to get Menel lynched. . . and of course be very confused about the rest of you.

Oh but come now, everyone ends up trying to lynch Menel for some wholly subconscious but apparently reasonable factor. I have yet to figure this out, for now, I think its just style. I'm probably missing something amazingly obvious, but my brain is fried from finals.

I thought you knew me enough to know everything that comes out of my mouth is complete and utter nonesense.

Yes, but the avatars are to remind us what roles people are playing.

Thankfully the avatar shouts out Gil. If anyone could instill the feeling of an overconfident, satirical and wholly consumed-in-himself Gandalf, its probably him.

I dunno how well I'm going to pull Raddie off, but hopefully the lack of actual in-character material available will give some creative license.

Well yes, I think even if no one joins, I could start on Sunday evening with a Night phase. Is this okay with everyone? And what about the DL - is it okay with everyone if I make it 9 PM GMT?

That is fine with me, I have the next week off for spring break and some history studying. Yay! I'll finally be able to say something worthwhile.

Just a little something to fill in the time. What do you think?

Well, I guess it depends on how in-character we are willing to be. Considering a few of us in our assumed roles would more likely toss the ring into a ditch, feed it to birds by accident, or forget about it somewhere whilst in mid-chorus. :p

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I thought you knew me enough to know everything that comes out of my mouth is complete and utter nonesense.

I do. . .that is why I am most likely to agree with you.:smokin:

[THE Ka]

I do. . .that is why I am most likely to agree with you.:smokin:

True, true. Though, it is fortunate enough being a wolf sometimes because no one then sees any warning in nonesense.
I might be killed off anyways, but eh, I'm only about having fun. :p

You though, you are going to be quite tricky. It's been awhile, and I have no clue what new scheme you're going to pull. Hmmm...

~ Ka

[Nerwen]

Anyways I shall be Galadriel!

Well, I (of course) considered being Galadriel– I shouldn't even have needed to change my avatar– but then I thought, nah, Saruman would never let her in the Fellowship.

So, how do you suppose you'll handle proximity to the Ring over such a long period?

Well, I guess it depends on how in-character we are willing to be. Considering a few of us in our assumed roles would more likely toss the ring into a ditch, feed it to birds by accident, or forget about it somewhere whilst in mid-chorus. :p

I think this needs considering. I'll give you my thoughts in a moment.

[Nerwen]

Well, that was more than a moment (stupid RL, always getting in the way).

The people I have highlighted must on no account be permitted to carry the Ring:

Gildor Inglorion
Uglúk –Do I have to explain this one?
Tom Bombadil –"And if he were given the Ring, he would soon forget it, or most likely throw it away."
Elrohir
Lobelia Sackville-Baggins –With her fondness for pilfering small, shiny objects? I think not.
Elladan
Dáin II. Ironfoot
Théodred
Éomer
Halbarad
Radagast
Gandalf –In his own words: "With that power I should have power too great and terrible. And over me the Ring would gain a power still more great and more deadly (...) The wish to wield it would be too great for my strength."
Galadriel –In her own words: "In place of the Dark Lord you will set up a Queen (...) All shall love me and despair!"

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Surely Radagast should make the list as well? I refuse to belive that just because he was fond of animals, he was not powerful.

[Groin Redbeard]

Gildor Inglorion
Uglúk –Do I have to explain this one?
Tom Bombadil –"And if he were give the Ring, he would soon forget it, or most likely throw it away."
Elrohir
Lobelia Sackville-Baggins –With her fondness for pilfering small, shiny objects? I think not.
Elladan
Dáin II. Ironfoot
Théodred
Éomer
Halbarad
Radagast
Gandalf –In his own words: "With that power I should have power too great and terrible. And over me the Ring would gain a power still more great and more deadly (...) The wish to wield it would be too great for my strength."
Galadriel –In her own words: "In place of the Dark Lord you will set up a Queen (...) All shall love me and despair!"

Very nicce Nerwen.:)

Elladan & Elrohir- These brothers would fall into the Boromir catagory. They hate so much that the temptation to use the ring would be too great to resist, in an attempt to do good.

Radagast- I agree with Rune that Radagast is powerful, and I don't think that anyone with to great a power should be the Rings keeper.

Unless there are any objections, I think that the rest of the characters are fine. :)

[Nerwen]

Yes, I'll add my brother and I to the list... mind you, we might be distracted by trying to lynch Mene– er, I mean Uglúk.

The new, improved list:

Definitely out:

Tom Bombadil –short attention span.
Elladan & Elrohir –emotional baggage.
Lobelia Sackville-Baggins –kleptomania.
Gandalf –too powerful.
Galadriel –too powerful
Radagast –too powerful.
Uglúk –tragic victim of racial stereotyping.

Question marks:

Gildor Inglorion –but can we really trust any Elf Lord?
Théodred –Probably okay, but might "do a Boromir"? Rohan's not that far from Mordor– they're still under threat.
Éomer –ditto.
Halbarad –Can't think of anything.
Dáin II. Ironfoot –Hard to say. The Seven Rings could turn dwarves evil, "filled with wrath and desire for vengeance on all who deprived them," but on the other hand "they were made from the beginning of a kind to resist most steadfastly any domination (...) they could not be reduced to shadows enslaved to another's will."

Btw Groin? I was thinking Dáin didn't get any lines in the main text, but I was wrong. Here he is talking to the Black Rider:

At that his breath came like the hiss of snakes, and all who stood by shuddered, but Dáin said: "I say neither yea nor nay. I must consider this message and what it means under its fair cloak."
"Consider well, but not too long."
"The time of my thought is my own to spend," answered Dáin.

[Gwathagor]

Come on, we all know that Halbarad is the only one who could safely carry the Ring. Why? Because he doesn't want it.

Actually, I don't. Give it to Gildor.

[Nerwen]

Halbarad –Suspiciously keen to be the Ringbearer.

[Meneltarmacil]

Look, just give it to me, OK? Yes, I'm an Orc, but I do whatever the White Hand says. And if the White Hand says to destroy the Ring, I'll destroy the Ring, simple as that.

Personally, I don't care much for all these stuck-up, better-than-thou, High-Elven types. And I like the fat guy with the yellow boots even less. That horrible singing is getting on my nerves! In a worst-case-scenario, I know who I'm gutting for man-flesh first, mark my words.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Actually I would not mind Lobelia being the ringbearer

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

(not interfering and just enjoying the discussion :) )

[McCaber]

Orc, I'm sure that I'm not the only one here who would kill you before seeing the ring pass into your hands.

I say let the ranger carry it. He seems to have one of the clearer heads among us.

[Groin Redbeard]

Btw Groin? I was thinking Dáin didn't get any lines in the main text, but I was wrong. Here he is talking to the Black Rider:


Yes, I saw that part in the book, but instead I chose Gandalf's quote about Dáin. Since, you have searched throught the books for such a quote for me I'll take that one over mine. Thanks Nerwen.:)


I say let the ranger carry it. He seems to have one of the clearer heads among us.
I don't know about that, I'm wary of having any man carry the Ring. I really like the idea of having Gildor carry the ring, but to quote Nerwen: can we really trust an elf [lord];)?

EDIT: 400th post!:D

[Gwathagor]

I think that either Gildor or Lobelia would be good Ringbearers.

[Meneltarmacil]

Well, Dain, I certaily don't trust these elf-lords any more than you do. I mean, didn't you hear Elrohir's comment about killing me before I could get the Ring? And all because I'm an Orc? How dare he question my loyalty to Saruman the Wise!

Not that I'd trust you with such a thing either. How do I know you won't keep it? You were perfectly willing to risk many of your friends and relatives over a small portion of your already-vast riches during the Battle of the Five Armies, and that part of the money wasn't even yours to begin with!

A stuck-up Elf shouldn't have the Ring, but neither should a greedy Dwarf like yourself. This matter is better left in the hands of those who only care about what needs to be done.

[THE Ka]

Surely Radagast should make the list as well? I refuse to belive that just because he was fond of animals, he was not powerful.


Good, because I don't want it anyways.

I mean seriously, have any of you ever tried feeding, let alone counciling birds when you have a shiny bit of anything on you? Horrible, horrible logic. :rolleyes:

Unlike Gandalf, I will keep it short: I don't think I'd make a very illustrious ring bearer, and for the sake of good dialogue and writing, I think someone else should take it.


Besides *does a runway stance*, gold really isn't my colour.


I think it would be rather interesting to see Menel with this ring, just to consider the back history of such things and the number of people who've been made to hold them, unless a few of you have been sleeping for the past few ages. Elves, Dwarves, Maia and Men have held such things, but really, what about Ugluk's kin?

I wouldn't suggest any of my furry or feathered friends to be ring bearers, anymore than I would simply pick an elve or a dwarve or even Gandalf, because doing something so serious without thought seems hasty to me.

Also, it rings a bit of favouritism too (no pun intended!).

Unfortunately, Radagast apparently knows next to nothing about Hobbits (thought he shares so many likes and dislikes with them), so I'm going out of character to have a pre-cognition about Lobelia's possiblility. :p

It would also be interesting (and rather, to think of it, 'sticking to the original') to have another Hobbit be a ringbearer, past history aside. I think Lobelia being able to act in her own accordance and in the company of those who can learn from her and give advice in return as well would make a rewarding experience. Then again, what do I know about hobbits? ;)

As for Bombadil, though I respect him for all his wonders and love for the wild, I don't think it would benefit anyone to give him the ring. He is simply not interested and probably has better things to do.

Dain indeed seems wise, of course after many years, and I know of his kin, but as I've said before I would no more favour with logic burdening a bird with the ring than simply giving it to someone.

Galadriel is very wise, but as others have said I will have to agree, she is simply too great to be a ring bearer. As is the same with Gandalf, and even Saruman if he was in the fellowship. Though, whoever does take on this role, I hope they do listen to her good words.

Gildor seems a possible choice, but I think we should have him give his own thoughts before anyone starts collecting votes.

I have to go now, erm, I have to settle a dispute between squirrels and chipmunks on tree ownership...

~ Ka

[Nerwen]

Yes, I saw that part in the book, but instead I chose Gandalf's quote about Dáin. Since, you have searched throught the books for such a quote for me I'll take that one over mine. Thanks Nerwen.:)

You're welcome.:)

...And now I think I'd better start getting into character...

Orc, I'm sure that I'm not the only one here who would kill you before seeing the ring pass into your hands.

Indeed, brother. Just listen to him:

A stuck-up Elf shouldn't have the Ring, but neither should a greedy Dwarf like yourself. This matter is better left in the hands of those who only care about what needs to be done.

You mean... like YOU???!! What, exactly, is an Orc's idea of what needs to be done? Slitting all our throats in the night? Torturing us? Eating us? Making off with the Ring?

I say we lynch him now. Why give him the chance to betray us?

Elves, Dwarves, Maia and Men have held such things, but really, what about Ugluk's kin?

I wouldn't suggest any of my furry or feathered friends to be ring bearers, anymore than I would simply pick an elve or a dwarve or even Gandalf, because doing something so serious without thought seems hasty to me.

...But you're willing to trust AN ORC with it, just because it would be "interesting"? My good wizard, are you sure you're taking this quest seriously enough?

I think Lobelia being able to act in her own accordance and in the company of those who can learn from her and give advice in return as well would make a rewarding experience. Then again, what do I know about hobbits? ;)

I have heard that there are hobbits and hobbits, and that this one has a reputation for being light-fingered... not a good choice.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hmm, I must say this looks very good :) I like this pre-game debate very much.

Anyway, sorry to interrupt your enjoyable debate, I just wanted to bring up one thing which is also important, and I have to solve it before the game baggins:

If there are any strong objections against the possibility to retract, you may speak up. (Actually, there were quite a few. So I'd hereby ask people who posted them before to re-post, if possible, so that everyone may read what you think and consider your arguments. The same thing goes with double-lynching, the idea was, if I remember, that if such a thing occurs, we should choose randomly. About this, I also encourage people to speak their minds.)

[Groin Redbeard]

Not that I'd trust you with such a thing either. How do I know you won't keep it?
I have never made any statement which would lead you to believe that I would want such a possesion.


You were perfectly willing to risk many of your friends and relatives over a small portion of your already-vast riches during the Battle of the Five Armies, and that part of the money wasn't even yours to begin with!

*jumps to his feet* My kinsfolk, Thorin, needed my aid and I gave him it. The gold in that hill belonged to the dwarves and the dwarves alone. Besides, was I not generious with distributing it amongst my allies after the battle? Let us keep to the subject at hand, for indeed if we brought up all the orcs wrong doings this council would never end.:p


It would also be interesting (and rather, to think of it, 'sticking to the original') to have another Hobbit be a ringbearer, past history aside. I think Lobelia being able to act in her own accordance and in the company of those who can learn from her and give advice in return as well would make a rewarding experience.
Indeed, hobbits are brave and sometimes can be as hardy as the dwarves, and they know very little about the Ring's capabilities which is very good if Lobelia chooses to be the Ring bearer.

Galadriel and Halbarad have expressed their opinion of having Lobelia carry the Ring. Why is that?

I just wanted to bring up one thing which is also important, and I have to solve it before the game baggins:
No problems here.:D

[Nogrod]

Just don't give the Ring to me - I would surely just forget it while singing the praise of nature. But as far as I can see Gildor seems to be the obvious choice, wise and firm elf not so easily corrupted like the humans, powerful as some or fickle and unpredictable as the others.

What comes to the rules I think that allowing retractions greatly enhances the chances of the wolves as they can really use them knowing what they are doing as they are. So if the wolves are the underdogs (sorry about the metaphor) we should have retractions but if the "village" looks weak in numbers we should not give the wolves that advantage.

Double-lynches are ok. to me if we have a lot of players but not if we have a small company.

Also I think that there being an element of randomness in who's lynched in a case of a tie slightly favours the wolves while there being a firm rule about who dies (the first or the last to gain the highest number of votes) slightly evens things up.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I don't like retractable votes, you make a desition and you stick with it! That is the way I like it.

I like that if I for some reason are not around at the end of the day, I know that the votes that has been casted until then will not be changed.

Also it prevents people from all of the sudden to all cast their vote on the same person. (well, technicaly it doesn't, but in reality does protect against sudden change of heart that often apears at the end of the day)

[Gwathagor]

Galadriel and Halbarad have expressed their opinion of having Lobelia carry the Ring. Why is that?



It seemed appropriate to me that, since Lobelia is the only hobbit in our august company, she should carry the Ring. I'd rather not transgress archetypes if I can avoid it.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

1. She is a hobbit
2. She is too stuborn and troublesome for anybody to want her in plan to get hold of the one ring
3. In case she is evil, she is too old and slow to escape with the ring.
4. She is relatively harmless. (the ring would weild no great power through her)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I am to deliver you a message: Gildor refuses to take the Ring, while Lobelia wantsss it. :D

[Groin Redbeard]

I may be gone for most of tomorrow, so I thought that now would be as good a time as any for me to vote for the Ring bearer. I'll see you all tomorrow night!:D:D:D

++Halbarad

[Gwathagor]

++Lobelia

[THE Ka]

...But you're willing to trust AN ORC with it, just because it would be "interesting"? My good wizard, are you sure you're taking this quest seriously enough?

Yes, I can understand from the direction of your arguement, and I can relate that I have had foul experiences with the orcs. They may not have beginnings like us, but if the Lady of Fruits has taught me anything, it is that all creatures great and small do have a part within this world. We forget this, and then wonder why we must suffer each other's transgressions. It becomes tiresome to hear so many insults, but yes, I do know what you are meaning to speak of.
By interesting, I was merely suggesting a lesson in an open mind and forgiveness. I can assume now that the time for such things with anyone is long gone, unfortunately.:rolleyes:

*feeds a tiny wren with care and guides it back to its shoulder perch*


Hmm, I only wish now that Gandalf told me more about these hobbits. They sound delightful, almost as good of company as the Beornings. Such strong, but thoughtful people. Though, it seems some of you doubt those who've spent time amoung them, hmm. I'd really care to hear the lady hobbit in question speak about this, but her company has gone amiss. As I've heard many of creature tell me: A person's a person, no matter how small!


I don't see any logic in retractable votes. Besides being far too easy for wolves and innocent alike to lead astray, after about two days of having to clarify exactly how each and everyone voted multiple times (plus exactly what this means in relation to others' thoughts!) would be a nightmare. Plus, it's too much work when the object is to rid of the werewolves, not play Carl Jung.
So my vote is no to retractable votes, even if they may be a personal benefit, I can only see them as being a collective rat's nest of confusion. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'd rather not play with that.

As for double-lynches, I will have to agree with Nogrod. They make sense in a large group of maybe 13-15 players, but not so much when you only have about 10-11. It's okay at first, then two days later you're down to five players with little or no material on each other and random lynches. Usually they serve a purpose in a larger group, but as for double kills I doubt to see the benefit for ordinaries and wolves.


Currently I am caught up between a vote for the ring bearer, and there are some bears I know who'd help me clear my mind and contribute to ending our dillema.

So, as for now, I'm off to see some bears about a vote.

~Ka

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

++Lobelia

[Aganzir]

I would be the perfect Ringbearer because I know it will not be able to tempt me.

My good Elladan, do you believe every word you hear? I know, of course, that some people have been deliberately encouraging the idea of me being a thief; which makes me sad. But I would expect an Elven lord to trust his own judgement instead of vague rumours and evil whispers.

And Dáin, what exactly makes you oppose me so? Though I don't think I should take it personally - your behaviour is exactly what one should expect from a Dwarf. They are such an uncivilized and rude race!

Anyway, sorry to interrupt your enjoyable debate, I just wanted to bring up one thing which is also important, and I have to solve it before the game baggins:
The game baggins? You mean me, eh? ;)
In this small a village, I'm against double lynches and retrackies. I don't think, though, that choosing the lynchee randomly in case of a tie would favour the wolves. Rather, it would encourage everyone to vote for their top suspect even if someone else already had quite high a vote count.

[Groin Redbeard]

I would be the perfect Ringbearer because I know it will not be able to tempt me.

And Dáin, what exactly makes you oppose me so? Though I don't think I should take it personally - your behaviour is exactly what one should expect from a Dwarf. They are such an uncivilized and rude race!


*jumps to his feet* Do not provoke me my good lady by insulting my kinsfolk and me, I do not insult yours! If it is indeed the will of the council for you to have the Ring then I will accept their judgement, but until that happens I believe that there are others more capable of having such a powerful thing.

Why do I appose you so? I know nothing about you my good hobbit lady! How can I endorse someone whom I know nothing about, indeed you might also say how can I condemn someone that I know nothing about? The answer is quite simple, your wishes and your strong will to posses the Ring is a dangerous.

[THE Ka]

How can I endorse someone whom I know nothing about, indeed you might also say how can I condemn someone that I know nothing about?

*sighs* I can see that this is going to be a headache later on, none the less...

I believe we are all taking that gambit, Dain. I understand the feeling, for most of you are indeed strangers to me in person. I prefer to judge a person's character and actions, not simply the actions of others of their kin. Though, unfortunately time will not provide us such an experience.
I really wish I could come to know a few of you more, especially Lobelia and Ugluk. Though Saruman and I may have our differences, I do believe those in his service and relation may at least act in his wisdom, hopefully. If it comforts any of you, I will make it a personal matter to check in with Saruman on the actions of his faithful, since we both share methods of communication beyond that of word.

All of us only have hope essentially, its really not a matter of who's right or wrong in the end. Because if anything if we vote without accepting that we may be wrong at times through this, we are all fools.

But I would expect an Elven lord to trust his own judgement instead of vague rumours and evil whispers.


There are other reasons that affect all of us, as for the elven kindred they have experienced great pain as many others have as well. Elladan has his personal reasons for such thought, but not at the hand of hobbits truly!
I believe we all have something to learn from lady Lobelia during this fellowship, or I at least have hope that even the smallest of us has as much will power to carry the ring as any of us. Though, there is no harm in realizing she can learn from us as well, only if we are willing to work together.

I wish I could say more on this, but I believe I have said enough and my feathered friends have a small need of me for the moment, I will return soon!

++Lobelia

~ Ka

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

---Deadline!--- :)

Lobelia is the Ringbearer.

The game was started. See the game thread for more. It's the Night phase right now; you may start to post on 24th March 9 PM GMT. You should all get your roles in a short time.

[Aganzir]

Just informing that I won't probably be around until later in the day tomorrow.

[THE Ka]

Sorry to clutter, but I thought I should save everyone some headache and post this.

I won't be around to do any posting in the WW thread from 11:40am-5:00pm PST (GST-8:00) due to a class being rescheduled. So, I'll be gone for the first few hours.
Sorry! I promise to be around well before the deadline though, so no worries.

~ Ka

[Nogrod]

By the way...

Should we try to hold our horses while writing RPG-style so as not to describe the actions or words of others too openly or strongly? I mean in RPG's one is quite clearly denied using another character without that character's owner's consent and in a game like this it would probably be advisable as well.

So let's stick to the foreseeable reactions based on the characters in the LotR and not go on inventing our own ideas how others behave in-game?

[satansaloser2005]

I second (or is it third) Agan and Ka. DL is when my work shift starts, so I'll be around about 5-6 hours after start of day. Just to let you all know.

P.S. Happy belated Easter/Resurrection Day everyone! Hope it was fabulous! :)

~~Sally~~

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Should we try to hold our horses while writing RPG-style so as not to describe the actions or words of others too openly or strongly? I mean in RPG's one is quite clearly denied using another character without that character's owner's consent and in a game like this it would probably be advisable as well.

Yes, good that you pointed it out. One should stick, as much as possible, or except just for minor things, with describing the actions of just his own character, and actually in the WW it's more important than in the RPGs.

And by the way, sorry for the first-nothing-then-floody way the opening narrations appear, I didn't have time to post them in a more fluent way, because I didn't have time yesterday and today.

[Nogrod]

Just a question of how to go with the things one writes. This is Gwath's latest post in the game-thread:

Halbarad didn't like orcs, for obvious reasons, but was beginning to agree with Ugluk about Bombadil's singing. What does it mean? he wondered. He seems so jolly on the outside, but I wish he'd speak plain and to the point, like an honest man and a soldier.

He chose not to say anything, as Halbarad was no complainer, but all the same he could not help but wonder if that whimsical exterior was simply an effective cover for something darker.......the apparently nonsensical rhymes and airs began to take on an eerie, dream-like, almost sinister quality in Halbarad's mind. He shook off the feeling.

Steady on, he thought. Steady on.

He called back to Elladan and Elrohir, whom he knew from previous journeys. "If you don't hurry, Bombadil's going to beat you two over the mountain!"



The first paragraph looks good indeed but then the rest looks a little confused.

If it's a question of someone's inner thoughts (or a song which is separated from the other text by empty lines and quotation marks) one should use the italics. In other cases, like what someone says openly the quotation marks should be enough to differentiate between the speech of someone's character and the overall depiction? A new line would be well though if the speech is a long one. And the overall description of someone's moods should be in plain text as well unless it's an inner monologue?

So how about this version of Gwath's latest?

Halbarad didn't like orcs, for obvious reasons, but was beginning to agree with Ugluk about Bombadil's singing. What does it mean? he wondered. He seems so jolly on the outside, but I wish he'd speak plain and to the point, like an honest man and a soldier.

He chose not to say anything, as Halbarad was no complainer, but all the same he could not help but wonder if that whimsical exterior was simply an effective cover for something darker.......the apparently nonsensical rhymes and airs began to take on an eerie, dream-like, almost sinister quality in Halbarad's mind. He shook off the feeling.

Steady on, he thought. Steady on.

He called back to Elladan and Elrohir, whom he knew from previous journeys. "If you don't hurry, Bombadil's going to beat you two over the mountain!"


Sure in the last-minute frenzy one should be forgiven not to formulate things correctly but we should have a basic and shared understanding how to point out to different things (Like inner thoughts, open speech, story-telling). Otherwise it will be very hard to follow the game if we have different practises with these.

Also if we like to hang on with calling each other with our in-game names we should probably also mark crosspostings with "X'd with Tom" and not "X'd with Nogrod"?

And even if I haven't quite followed this advice myself this far I'd suggest we keep up with the good practise of bolding the names of the people we talk about in our posts as they're so much easier to find that way later - just using the story-names and not the player's id's here in the 'Downs...

Just suggestions, but to be considered.

PS. Look at Groin's last post (#14) to see what I mean with the bolding-stuff & open speech / general depiction of a character's mood!

[Gwathagor]

:( Sorry, didn't mean to be confusing. I don't really know what the post format should look like, so I'll just follow your example, Nogrod. Or try to, at least.

[satansaloser2005]

Shoot. I just remembered that I have a meeting for my acting class tomorrow right before deadline, which means that I'll have little to no time to stop by during the rest of the day. The other people in my class will understand if I run a bit late, so I'll be able to drop by (Lord willing) and vote, but I won't be a big talker for the greater part of the day. Alternatively, I'll slip out during class and stick my vote in to ensure that I'll be able to participate. In any case, I need to get to bed; I'm getting a little loopy(ier). Good night all!


Oh, and post good? Post bad? It took me a while to rustle it up, but I don't know if it's what you're looking for, oh mod god Legate. Whatever suits you. *toddles off sleepily*

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

If it's a question of someone's inner thoughts (or a song which is separated from the other text by empty lines and quotation marks) one should use the italics. In other cases, like what someone says openly the quotation marks should be enough to differentiate between the speech of someone's character and the overall depiction? A new line would be well though if the speech is a long one. And the overall description of someone's moods should be in plain text as well unless it's an inner monologue?
Well yes, I think using the quotation marks for direct speech and italics for inner thoughts is a generally used way to express these things. It will surely help to make one's posts easier to read. And, also bolding each other's names (character names, that is) should be done as well, like in normal WW games - for easier orientation.

Oh, and post good? Post bad? It took me a while to rustle it up, but I don't know if it's what you're looking for, oh mod god Legate. Whatever suits you. *toddles off sleepily*
Although this game is connected with in-character posting, you don't need to worry about it that much. The main purpose is to have fun. But your post is very good, I'd say, so you don't have to worry about anything. Except, one little thing, Saruman is no longer around, so not sure if Théodred can glare at him still :)

[Thinlómien]

Also, I'd appreciate it if people would make their characters say their suspicions aloud... it's a bit difficult to refer to or to quote people's personal thoughts, unless you're Galadriel, of course... ;)

[Nerwen]

Good point– I didn't think of that until after my first post. (Still, surely the body language helped make things clearer?)

[Nogrod]

Okay, I'm reading toDay's posts after work but I just couldn't help commenting about this as soon as it caught my eye and as it's soo OOC I thought I need to do it here not to break the flow of the story.

You've done it Rune!!! Changing the avvie for the game!!! :eek: :D

I thought this day would never come!

Even more OOC to follow... *sorry* but our students leaving the school made and performed songs about us teachers something like a month ago. My song was called "The Marx of Kallio" (Kallio being the name of the part of the city our school is). And I thought it cool indeed. :)

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Yeah. . .I did not plan to do it and it did feel weird indeed, but it simply seemed wrong to look at my own posts as Galadriel and having good old Marx staring back at me.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Yeah. . .I did not plan to do it and it did feel weird indeed, but it simply seemed wrong to look at my own posts as Galadriel and having good old Marx staring back at me.

Yeah, actually, I found it rather interesting to see you with another avvie. And it's good: as long as the game lasts, you may keep it and the more you may enjoy switching it back once again when the game is over :)

[THE Ka]

Almost the same as yesterday, I won't be around from 11:40am-3:30pm (GMT-8:00) due to classes being rescheduled. So, I'm probably going to have to vote irrationally and early, urgh.
After today though, I won't have any until Monday, so I should be around more often.

Except for Saturday, which I pretty much will be non-existant because I have work and my friend's 18th birthday (she has a birthday fetish, so there is no way I'm getting at least a minute of time alone or on the computer :rolleyes:). There is a low possibility I might steal a few minutes around 5:00pm (GMT-8:00), but I have no clue as of yet.

Sorry for any inconvienance.

~ Ka

[Gil-Galad]

i just realized, as gandalf i have relations with almost every character... oi vey...

[Thinlómien]

I and Greenie are sharing a computer so please judge our behaviour, reaction speed and voting times based on that... it's getting pretty hectic over here...

[Nerwen]

I'm just posting in haste to say sorry for missing the deadline. Too much RL stuff was happening.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I and Greenie are sharing a computer so please judge our behaviour, reaction speed and voting times based on that... it's getting pretty hectic over here...

Reaction speed and voting time I will grant you, but behaviour?

Nope cannot do, judging others behaviour is what this game is about. . .

[Meneltarmacil]

So sorry about missing the deadline; I wasn't sure when it was and I had lots of work to do.

[THE Ka]

Sorry for missing the deadline, but to keep things short just refer to the post I made earlier. Like Nerwen, busy, busy RL schedule. I should be relatively free over the next three days so I'll definately be able to vote.

Sorry again!

~ Ka

[Thinlómien]

Reaction speed and voting time I will grant you, but behaviour?

Nope cannot do, judging others behaviour is what this game is about. . .I merely meant things like if we ignore some branches of discussion or some accusations in the last hour or so it might just be because we're in haste because both of us have to write and we might be less vocal because neither of us can occupy the computer all the time... but I don't expect it to be a big issue, we've always coped in the past, and besides, if all of us are alive in the RL weekend, there will be three of us sharing the computer, because I and Greenie will be in Noggie's place then... :D

[Aganzir]

I won't be around at the beginning of day 2, either, and this time it will probably take me a few hours longer to appear than it did on day 1. *curses her schedule*

[Gil-Galad]

i love how everytime i attempt a new way of playing WW i always seem to get lynched first... the curse of Gil-galad i guess.

[Groin Redbeard]

Just want to let you guys know that I won't be around during the beginning of the day. I'll join later on in the day.:)

[Nogrod]

I seem to be adding myself to a long list of apologies... :confused:

But I have a terrible day tomorrow (RL). I will be able to post somewhere in the middle of the Day (gametime) and then in the last hour or two. But otherwise I'm just flying around.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I shall soon go to bed as I have a lecture tomorrow morning and will stay at the University until 5pm +gmt, so I won't be around until late tomorrow afternoon. So don't expect me to post again before around 4-3 hours before deadline. (I might just do one before going to bed)

I feel I need to explain: Yesterday I was not around after my last post (which was rushed) because I was going to a consert.(It was decided very sudden, so I had no chance of warning you)

[THE Ka]

Sorry to bother with a silly question, but I'm rather curious about something.

Did anyone else have trouble yesterday accessing the Downs? All of last night I couldn't because neither the home page nor the forum would load. This if anything, was what kept me from posting, and I was wondering if anyone else had this problem.

Thanks!


~ Ka

[Gwathagor]

I meant to say more just now but I have to go to class!

[Aganzir]

Did anyone else have trouble yesterday accessing the Downs? All of last night I couldn't because neither the home page nor the forum would load. This if anything, was what kept me from posting, and I was wondering if anyone else had this problem.
Yes - about nine hours ago. I had some extra time at school and would probably have managed to post at least something, had it not been for the Downs being down.

[McCaber]

Ka, I had that same problem.

[THE Ka]

Thanks for everyone's honesty and assurance :), I thought my computer had a virus or something and I was worried I wouldn't be able to participate.

Thanks again. No worries about not making the deadline today, I finally have some free time and plan on being at home.

~ Ka

[satansaloser2005]

I meant to say more just now but I have to go to class!


Class is overrated love. ;)


Yeah, I had the same problem as Ka; thought my internet connection was going loopy again. Glad to see it back up though, although (dork that I am) I was trying to post last night when I experienced the problem and lost what I had submitted, and then my connection really DID die. I'd accidentally switched off my wireless. :smokin:

Now then, off I go into the game thread.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I appologise for not being around before deadline. . . .well, I actually was around in the early afternoon as I desided to skip my first classes, but in the end I decided to wait with posting untill returning from my latter classes. What a mistake that turned out to be. . . I don't know why but my internet was down all evening until half an hour ago (2am) and it was the same in all of the building.

[THE Ka]

Just wanted to let everyone know that I won't be around for the first three and a half hours of the Day, due to work.

I won't be around at all on Saturday, due to work and friends' birthday. So, if you feel the need to kill me, that would be a good day for me too. :p:D
Just be sure to give me something good to read on Sunday in return.

Good luck everyone.

~ Ka

[satansaloser2005]

Just letting you all know I'm working this evening for the first five hours of the Day, and that I'll be around after then. Sorry in advance for being so quiet; I may get like five minutes over my lunch break to check the site, but probably won't be able to post.

Til later,

~~Sally~~

[Nogrod]

Just a clarification on the narrational choice I just made. We (Lommy, her sis and I) are going to attend a family-dinner and will be away until the last hours of the game toDay. And will then share the computer.

[Groin Redbeard]

I have to leave now for a Boy Scout meeting, and I don't expect to get a say in again today. Therefore, I have already voted for who should leave, and I'll see you all tomorrow!:)

[McCaber]

Wow, I think this is one of the most popular admin threads ever.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I apologize for taking a little longer with the narration today, I am not feeling well and I had to stop between the writing and so (and mainly apologies to you, Rune, I did not even refresh the page for me so that I could see the PM). Well, it is up now, at least, so hope you will enjoy it if nothing else.

[satansaloser2005]

Don't worry about it Legate. The narration was still fantastic. Besides, your health is infinitely more important than a quickly-posted narration. Feel better! :)

~~Sally~~

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I apologize for taking a little longer with the narration today, I am not feeling well and I had to stop between the writing and so (and mainly apologies to you, Rune, I did not even refresh the page for me so that I could see the PM). Well, it is up now, at least, so hope you will enjoy it if nothing else.

It is alright Legate. . . I am back home now and can read it.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Yes, and today I can promise you it will be fine and on time :) (unless something unexpected happens, like my net crashing completely) And thanks, sally. I'm feeling better today.

[Nogrod]

You were in time, ahead of it indeed - against which I have nothing as now I may be able to post at least something before I go to sleep.

But the opening hour today was one hour earlier than it has been. You started the Day 8PM GMT and not 9 as you have done this far. Have you possibly turned into the daylight savings or something? We moved our clocks here in Finland last night as well so maybe you did it too?

I think you should let the game run toDay to the original hour (9PM GMT) so that no one misses the voting because the deadline has been moved one hour earlier.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

You were in time, ahead of it indeed - against which I have nothing as now I may be able to post at least something before I go to sleep.

But the opening hour today was one hour earlier than it has been. You started the Day 8PM GMT and not 9 as you have done this far. Have you possibly turned into the daylight savings or something? We moved our clocks here in Finland last night as well so maybe you did it too?

I think you should let the game run toDay to the original hour (9PM GMT) so that no one misses the voting because the deadline has been moved one hour earlier.

Oh yes, sorry, I did not notice - I counted automatically with the daylight savings switch. Okay. Well, the more time for you now, then. Okay, I will let the game run normally until 9 PM GMT, that means, 11 PM for me (CET) and whatever else, so, as if there were no daylight saving time. We'll see then if it's okay with people, or what... that has time.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I won't post anymore tonight (worked all night and only got 3 hours of sleep so I have to go to bed now) I will show up some hours before deadline, but before that I cannot know. It will depend on how busy school will be (if I need to use my breaks on reading)

[satansaloser2005]

Dang it. I can't sleep. Which means that I'll be paying for my nocturnal habits later; may be taking a nap in the afternoon (towards the end of the day). So if I'm quiet for a while around 2-3 hours pre-DL, that's why.

[Groin Redbeard]

I'll be busy for the next five days with family coming down to see us, so if you decide to vote me out that's OK by me. ;)

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

What?

We are acting as if there was no daylight savings? That is kind of weird and kind of messes my schedual up, anyways that means that I might not be around much at deadlines.

[satansaloser2005]

What?

We are acting as if there was no daylight savings? That is kind of weird and kind of messes my schedual up, anyways that means that I might not be around much at deadlines.



Yeah, DL is at the same time as usual. Well, the same time for me anyway.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

It is so sad. . . I had actually decidet that if I was one of the final 3 alongside Nogrod, I would vote for him no matter what. It would simply have been too devistating for my ego if he had turned out be a traitor in that situation, where I had suspected him so much.

I think this was my worst game ever. . .Normally I suspect at least 2 of the evil-doers heavily at some point (I might change my mind latter) this time I hardly even suspected on a tiny bit.

Anyways, good game folks. . .I was mighty impressed by some of you!

[Nogrod]

Oh Sally I knew you were the seer! It all made sense and I needed to play it down all the time if something went wrong so that I wouldn't hint at it in any way. That's why I tried to make something of a case against you in the end - and surely also if I had made a totally disasterous misjudgement. You were just brilliant! *bows*

And what a hunter we had in Eomer! Kudos Greenie! You really helped us out of the trouble! For in the beginning I thought it was just a disaster: I had no good hunches and everything looked chaotic.

And oh my. This was interesting indeed. Fun and hard as the roleplaying mode with all these characters having their own history we all knew made it kind of double-hard - and challenging... and thence even more fun!

The traitors were sneaky indeed but in the end we turned out even sneakier! It feels like being Caesar writing his De Bello Gallico where he insisted how tough his enemy was to add to his glory winning those fights, but really you made this game a challenge! I admire Ka's coolness, Groin's cold-blooded and thoughtful play which it was really hard to get a grip with and Gwath for just being able to move not only my head but the heads of seversal others from open suspicion to not lynch you...

Lommy was just fantastic elf-lord who really made the difference!

And all of you! This was a pleasure indeed!

And the way Legate used the actual story and the happenings in the game was just both glorious and hilarious! *bows once again*

[Nogrod]

And don't blame yourself Rune, we all get it wrong every once in a while. In some games one can be just so wrong from the very beginning to the end. It has happened to me so I know what I'm talking about... And after all you were no hunter who went on to kill our seer in retribution! :)

[Groin Redbeard]

Congratulations to everyone, this is by far the best game I will ever play! Thank you again Legate for coming up with the idea!:D

Well done Nogrod, you really got onto me on the last day there. You really tackled those tough jobs to get me (my heart stopped when I saw your analysis on the last day).

Thinlomien, you played an excellent game. The only mistake that you made was trusting me too much. ;) I really enjoyed all your analysis. I must admit I was scared that you might catch onto us in the beginning.

Hats off to Little Green, we never thought that you were a vigilanty. Even though it seemed that The Ka fooled everyone, you were smart enough to get him; it all went downhill for us from that point on.

Nerwen, you didn’t provide much incite at the beginning, but we (traitors) feared that you might catch on very soon. Congratulations for scaring us enough to kill you. ;)

Gwathagor, I don’t know how you survived as long as you did. It seemed like everyone caught onto you right away. It seemed like every day that we might lose you. Very well done.

[McCaber]

Well, this was one game where I couldn't go for my usual "lynch Nerwen" strategy.

I would like to congratulate the traitors as well. Even when it all fell apart, you almost had it.

And I want to thank everyone for not lynching me when my time was stolen by college all of a sudden.

[Nogrod]

Thanks Groin but I must confess that from at least a Day before I kind of believed Sally was the seer and so her points helped me to narrow the chances down.

It was indeed during our morning (RL), like in the middle of this last Day (GT) when I was supervising an examination in a classroom and had an internet connection when I scrolled through the game thread and made some notes... just of you and Gwath... That's how sure I was.

Of course the doubt came back many times later the Day and I kind of made those "analysis" on Menel and Sally in all honesty trying to see whether I had been wrong but somehow they didn't convince me anymore. :p

But you played well indeed! It was a tough work - and a combination of other things as well - that finally made me confident of your guilt.

Now I need to go to sleep but I'll catch you all up later...

[Nogrod]

Just to amuse us...as there is no final narration yet.

So what do you think would have happened to a fellowship that left Lorien composed of Elrohir, Uglúk, Tom Bombadil, Galadriel and Théodred? :eek::D

Could "we" have stood a chance? :rolleyes:

[Groin Redbeard]

Just to amuse us...as there is no final narration yet.

So what do you think would have happened to a fellowship that left Lorien composed of Elrohir, Uglúk, Tom Bombadil, Galadriel and Théodred? :eek::D

Could "we" have stood a chance?

No chance, Ugluk would have betrayed you as you got close to Mordor and you would have lost the Ring anyway. Even if you gave it to someone else they would have gotten corrupted.:p

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

No way, folks - by the way, the narration is up (for about half an hour now), just so that everyone knows. So you may check my version (idealized, but whatever). Apologies to Nogrod, but I don't think Tom would have wanted to leave Lórien to the barren lands to the East after all. :smokin: <= yes, that was it.

In any case, I must say I was very surprised by the Traitors and the Seer and the Hunter (the Ranger unfortunately did not have enough time to show his quality), because they turned to be far above my expectations - all of them. In other words, it's good that the Gifted were as good as they were, because the Traitors were too. "Black horses", indeed! In any case, I really enjoyed reading this game, as it was exciting to follow it, and the more for the roleplaying, which was also done brilliantly from you. I am going to definitely keep this game in my memory as one I did not play in, but enjoyed it in a very strong way.

[satansaloser2005]

Yay! *celebrates*

Okay, so I figured I'd be dead about half-way through the game. Soon as Agan died, my exact words to myself were, "Oh crap. Well, I'm dead now. Good job moron." Not at all pleased with myself. Sorry Agan!!!!!!! *feels terrible* I was afraid Noggie was going to get lynched and, well, I knew he was innocent and I wasn't sure about you, so you know....

Noggie, I knew that you'd figured it out, kudos! Not that I was terribly subtle, mind you, especially toDay when I realized we'd won! I was hoping you were only pretending to suspect me, because there was no WAY I would not have gotten killed toNight. I figured I may as well make myself obvious and if it didn't work out at least you'd be able to figure everything out from my posts. I was SO glad you were on my side this game; you were fantastic! :D

Obviously, ALL of you were fantastic, but I've got to go here in a minute, so I'll return with more thoughts later tonight. Well done all! :)


~~Sally~~

[McCaber]

I think this game has the biggest admin / game thread ratio...

[Nerwen]

Just dropped in from the Halls of Mandos to say congratulations!

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

One thing I am happy about is being on the winning side and staying alive. . .usually when I am on the winning side I get killed on day or night 2. In fact I don't think I made it past that barrier on my first 4 games.

About the game consept: It was interesting, but difficult to play with these charachter because as Nogrod says they had history together and the roleplaying got difficult for me as the game progressed. Especially in the last hours of the day did I find it difficult to roleplay as I just wanted to figure out peoples votes and stuff.


About the seer: I had no idea who it was, but then again that is because I try not to look after the seer I can imagine that it is a stressfull task to be the seer and I think you did an exelent job Sally(?). . .Alas I have never in my many games tried to be the seer, in fact I was only once a gifted(I think) and not a very good one I am afraid.

[Gwathagor]

Curses.

Well, at least I have the benefit of experience from the werewolf perspective which will help me HUNT THEM DOWN AND KILL THEM in the future.

[THE Ka]

*drops by as a bear*

Well, you know, I don't exactly have the human act together anymore... Bear was my best second choice.

I admire Ka's coolness, Groin's cold-blooded and thoughtful play which it was really hard to get a grip with and Gwath for just being able to move not only my head but the heads of seversal others from open suspicion to not lynch you...


I'm very, very greatful to have been accepted to the game, but also to have such a wonderful team of wolvies! I haven't had so much fun messing with people's perceptions in quite a long time, and I couldn't have had a better time at it without Groin and Gwath. I really loved how long Groin kept all of you in the dark (and myself a bit!), he was able to appear innocent and also at a healthy level of 'suspicious' without it being called into question too much. Plus, there never could be a better Dain.
Gwath also, did a wonderful job at setting up the right scenarios during the Day, and being an awesome analyzer. Without his help, I don't think i'd ever be able to keep my plans in check. Also, never could imagine a better Halbarad, cool and collected, but had a respectable air of proudness.

And to Nogrod, you gave me way too much credit during the game. I consider half of those posts good luck and guessing, especially the one where Radagast explained things to old Bombadil.
I figured if anything, it was the least I could do to keep you in a good mood to collect more dafoldilies. :p

Oh, and Aganzir, sorry for being:

"Mean, mean, mean!"

... and a very evil person. I don't try really, half the time I would make myself forget I was a wolf and play as I usually do. Apparently it worked for awhile.

By the way, may I ask why you chose just those kills that you did?

In all good time...

Okay, well, now's a good time.

Who knows. You all looked worthy candidates, but our standards were pressing, and we could only take what was up that moment.

Although, I dunno if anyone else has mentioned it, but Rune was the first person I suspected as a possible seer on our second Night. Maybe too much association with your character.
Then we tossed around the A Little Green or Sally idea as a possible seer. Probably would have gone after Sally, but due to her annoyingly :p insightful posts and votes, we decided to go with another. I can't remember exactly.


Congratulations for scaring us enough to kill you.

Indeed, Nerwen's too crafty in any role. ;)


I really admired the work everyone put into their characters, it was beautiful to read from time to time just for that fact.

In that light, I really liked Lommy's and Aganzir's work with their characters. They gave some mysteries more face and embodiment, without giving the impression of being detached from how the character would probably act in many circumstances.

Well, at least I have the benefit of experience from the werewolf perspective which will help me HUNT THEM DOWN AND KILL THEM in the future.

Yay! wolf experience = better innocent and/or wolfie hunter.
Always.

Wish I could give more reps out to everyone, but the rep counter refuses me that liberty! Humph, how rude.
So to anyone I can't as of now rep, here's it in writing! You made the game a wonderful experience!


Probably could say a lot more and bore all of you to no end, but I'll shut my snout to let others have more words.

*munches quietly on a comb of honey, accidently eating some bees*

Oh bother...

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I really loved how long Groin kept all of you in the dark (and myself a bit!), he was able to appear innocent and also at a healthy level of 'suspicious' without it being called into question too much.

Oh yes, actually, I have to say something to that - at least during the first two days, when reading the thread, I was "favouring" the traitors, like, after reading a post saying to myself: "Ooh, good, this person is completely off track" or "Ah, this one suspects Halbarad, but not Radagast, that's good"; but I actually caught myself several times reading Groin's posts and pondering them in the same way - like "Good, he also seems not to suspect them that much!" - and only then I remembered that he is in fact also a traitor :D

[Nogrod]

Apologies to Nogrod, but I don't think Tom would have wanted to leave Lórien to the barren lands to the East after all. :smokin: <= yes, that was it.Nothing to apologise for it was most fitting and what I kind of hoped for.

Quite interestingly the Days when I had the most time to play and thence to try and make the rhymes & stuff were the Days in the game when we were outdoors. So that kind of served Tom's character pretty well - no jolly singing in Moria but the self-doubt whether he was the old Tom anymore... :rolleyes:

Lommy's and Aganzir's writing has been praised already and they deserve the praise. But so do The Ka and Groin as well. I mean The Ka's Radagast was just so "edgeless", ageless and calm as I think of him - and you couldn't find him being rash or accusatory against anyone. Great cover you had there and well built. Also Groin's Daín felt so like a bit tense and action-oriented dwarf-king that it was jst too real. Also Rune managed to make his Galadriel at times to be exactly the lady of the galadhrim. And all the rest of you were great as well.

I'm all for trying this kind of compulsory in-character game again one fine day. Sadly so many people seem to fear or dislike the idea. They clearly don't know what they are missing!

And last but not least. Sometimes a game feels like it's all up to who has the best or toughest luck, whom the stars seem to favour. But sometimes - like this time - you feel that thinking things over and analysing what people do really make a difference! In the end it was the combined actions and talk of people with which one could start limiting the number of candidates and finally end up with just one. And ditto! In times to come I will refer to this game when people say there's no point in analysing things as it's all just lucky guessing...

Thank's everyone for a good game!

[Nerwen]

You know what annoys me? I had a very strong bad feeling about The Ka from the start– and I thought, "Better not say too much this early, because if I happen to be right they'll think I'm the Seer and kill me". So I kept quiet... and they killed me anyway.:mad:

But I'd love to try another in-character game... and hopefully not get killed on Night One this time.

[Nogrod]

and hopefully not get killed on Night One this time.That's the most annoying way to go! I mean if you are lynched on Day1 you can always blame yourself for that... at least in part. :( :)

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Also Rune managed to make his Galadriel at times to be exactly the lady of the galadhrim. And all the rest of you were great as well.

I'm all for trying this kind of compulsory in-character game again one fine day. Sadly so many people seem to fear or dislike the idea. They clearly don't know what they are missing!


Unfortunately I could not keep my enthusiasm up. . .at times I was simply too tired to make an effort, but I still had to write and it then became so and so.

I really liked the way Aganzir played her role. . .

Anyways I don't think that compulsory in-character games should be something we do often, they are fun to spice things up. . .but they are also more demanding. I could not handle another one just now. . .not without neglecting school a lot.

[A Little Green]

Yay!

Cheers, everyone! This was maybe the most enjoyable game I've played in, largely because you all did your characters so well, and played well too. Just awesome.

:smokin:

Thanks, guys. I loved it. :D

[Thinlómien]

This was great. Both because it was challenging to both sides and very even, and because everyone played their characters so hilariously. Everybody was awesome, but especially Rune's Galadriel, Nogrod's Tom (and his horrible rhymes :p), Agan's Lobelia and Greenie's Éomer, not to mention THE Ka's Radagast, whose ultimate gentleness made me think he must be innocent. (I had this interesting theory that in an in-character game, if you think plotwise, a traitor might slip his deceitfulness to the overall portrayal of his/her character. Evidently I was wrong...)

I'm quite glad for deciding to vote Halbarad rather ex tempore, because the bandwagon that followed was great and unbelievable. I'm also glad that I caught Dáin, unfortunately only after I had died. And it was only because everybody else seemed so innocent. Excellent job Groin, and THE Ka and Gwath too, you were all very sneaky. And our gifteds did really well too.

Oh, this was an awesome game, I'm sure I'll remember this for ages. It was very enjoyable to play in-character, especially as Gildor is such a lovely chap. :D Thanks to everybody for making this so memorable and for playing splendidly (I'm running out of positive adjectives soon :D), and to Legate of Amon Mod for a great idea and lovely narrations. They were all excellent but my death was the BEST. (I'm not even sad I died...)


~ Gildor Inglorion Dagnir Balroga

[Aganzir]

Thinlomien, you played an excellent game. The only mistake that you made was trusting me too much.
And I wouldn't have trusted you half as much as I did, hadn't Lommy (who, I was sure, was innocent) done so.
Well, at least I can take comfort in being right about two traitors in my first post. :smokin:

the Ranger unfortunately did not have enough time to show his quality
His??

I was planning to reveal if it started to seem I was lynched, but didn't have time. I didn't seriously believe I would be lynched until sally voted me, and I hadn't counted on all the votes being cast in the last minute, as it happened.

Soon as Agan died, my exact words to myself were, "Oh crap. Well, I'm dead now. Good job moron." Not at all pleased with myself. Sorry Agan!!!!!!! *feels terrible*
No problem, darling, and you were a great seer anyway (and a great Théodred, too). :D
I should maybe try to change my innocent playing style - last game I was innocent (after many games as a wolf) I was lynched on Day 1 and now on Day 2. I can't understand what makes innocent me so suspicious.

Oh, and Aganzir, sorry for being:

"Mean, mean, mean!"

... and a very evil person. I don't try really, half the time I would make myself forget I was a wolf and play as I usually do. Apparently it worked for awhile.
Apparently, it did. :D You were awesome.

Although, I dunno if anyone else has mentioned it, but Rune was the first person I suspected as a possible seer on our second Night. Maybe too much association with your character.
Then we tossed around the A Little Green or Sally idea as a possible seer. Probably would have gone after Sally, but due to her annoyingly insightful posts and votes, we decided to go with another. I can't remember exactly.
I thought so, too, and protected Rune on Night 2. At the end of Day 1, I was rather confident that either him or sally (with her "my mind's eye" whatever :-D) was the seer, but chose to protect Rune (because I thought Nog might be a wolf and then surely kill him). Groin was my third and Nerwen fourth option (for being a good player who hadn't spoken very much on Day 1 and thus making a nice kill with few tracks)

In that light, I really liked Lommy's and Aganzir's work with their characters. They gave some mysteries more face and embodiment, without giving the impression of being detached from how the character would probably act in many circumstances.
Thanks. I was planning to make Lobelia a bit nicer, but, well, she just came to be like that. I hope no one was offended by her.
And you were a wonderful Radagast yourself.

I really liked the way Aganzir played her role. . .
Thanks - I liked your Galadriel, too. She was very much like I thought Galadriel should be.

My other favourites were Tom Bombadil and Éomer. Nog's rhymes made me laugh all the time and Greenie was just so Éomerish. :-D

On night 1 I asked Legate whether I couldn't PM with the hunter, and he said no. Well, just look what happened - Greenie and I were all for killing each other all the time. Ironic. I'm almost happy I was lynched, because I might have protected The Ka on night 3.

And thanks for modding, Legate. The idea of the game was awesome, and it was interesting to try IC playing (though I'm sure I wouldn't like to play this way in every game).

edit: xed with Lommy

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

~ Gildor Inglorion Dagnir Balroga
:cool:

His??
Ah, sorry, I was merely continuing on the subject of the sentence. Not even sure about English, but in Czech a Ranger would be he. Although, if I wrote in Czech, I would write "rangeress" or how should it be told, so that would be again "she", but clearly...

I was planning to reveal if it started to seem I was lynched, but didn't have time. I didn't seriously believe I would be lynched until sally voted me, and I hadn't counted on all the votes being cast in the last minute, as it happened.

I must say you hit on something here - if there was anything in this game that was really apparent and really drastic, then it was all the last-minute voting. Especially on the first days it was that EVERYONE voted in the last five minutes, if ever! Or maybe one person voted three hours before, then one person ten minutes before, and all the rest in the last five minutes (or not at all). Last minute voting is nice, but this, I think, has been an example how horrifying it can be. (Although, the outcome was not that disasterous... but still, it's stressful if nothing else. Well, on the other hand, WW is about adrenaline rising as well :) ).

[Gwathagor]

Well, on the other hand, WW is about adrenaline rising as well

Yeah. I felt like I was on Ritalin all week long. :rolleyes:

[Gil-Galad]

If you must know Gandalf's suspicion list. Dain and Halbarad were both on it for traitors.


this is what, 7th game in which i have picked out 2 out of 3 wolves. i wonder when people are going to keep me around longer because my dumb luck seems to work everytime... i just watch what is said, wolves have a way with words that i detect almost right away...

le sigh... ol' mis-understood Gil...

[THE Ka]

I had a very strong bad feeling about The Ka from the start– and I thought, "Better not say too much this early, because if I happen to be right they'll think I'm the Seer and kill me". So I kept quiet... and they killed me anyway.
:mad:

Really you should feel honored that we were so scarred to see what would happen if you stayed longer. You're a sharp player Nerwen, and I only observe and learn from those I see as the best. ;)

Last minute voting is nice, but this, I think, has been an example how horrifying it can be.

I was in a daze after the second Day voting, even if the deadline was at a relatively comfortable GMT for me, still I just sat there wondering if this was going to lead anywhere. Apparently so.


Yeah. I felt like I was on Ritalin all week long.

Same here, except my silly idea of drinking coffee and tea seriously did nothing to help me stay awake for both the Night and Day phases. I've probably overrun my caffine response again.

Well, I did enjoy the in-character element of the game (yes, it actually helped a little with how to rationalize thoughts in the game and not be killed so soon), but despite having some luck at this I think it should be used every once in awhile as all good ideas. No use in waring thin a wonderful idea.

As for future games, I'm going to take a break for awhile since my life is going to take quite a spin in the next few months.
I won't forget this game though, or any of the brilliant Downers, so I should be back. Eventually. Again. :rolleyes:

Thanks again, all of you.

~ Thankful Ka

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

If you must know Gandalf's suspicion list. Dain and Halbarad were both on it for traitors.


this is what, 7th game in which i have picked out 2 out of 3 wolves. i wonder when people are going to keep me around longer because my dumb luck seems to work everytime... i just watch what is said, wolves have a way with words that i detect almost right away...

le sigh... ol' mis-understood Gil...

I actually think that it is a bit unfair how Gil is constantly killed of early in the game and allways for the same reason, his way of playing the game.

That was why I chritisised Nogrod so much for his vote on him, I thought that he had played enough with Gil to know how his style is.

[Nogrod]

I agree that is feels pretty nasty to see Gil go everytime so early... well not every time but pretty regularly. But this time I think there was a difference which was his insistence that he would only speak his mind the next Day. Now if we think that everyone would adopt the tactics saying "you should not lynch me toDay as I will speak toMorrow" it would obviously be a disaster for the game. :p

Had he been open with his supicions I probably would have voted Gwath instead of him... and that would have been good indeed... Sorry Gil.

[Thinlómien]

And I wouldn't have trusted you half as much as I did, hadn't Lommy (who, I was sure, was innocent) done so.Surely you should know better than to trust my judgement by now... :p


If you must know Gandalf's suspicion list. Dain and Halbarad were both on it for traitors.

this is what, 7th game in which i have picked out 2 out of 3 wolves. i wonder when people are going to keep me around longer because my dumb luck seems to work everytime... i just watch what is said, wolves have a way with words that i detect almost right away...

le sigh... ol' mis-understood Gil...Well, it would have been fine had you not started to threaten me... ;) Seriously though, I must agree with what Nog said about your tactics. But better luck and better strategies (from both my and your part) next time, I hope... :)

[Aganzir]

Ah, sorry, I was merely continuing on the subject of the sentence. Not even sure about English, but in Czech a Ranger would be he. Although, if I wrote in Czech, I would write "rangeress" or how should it be told, so that would be again "she", but clearly...
Ah! these silly languages which need to make a distinction between sexes... :p

Surely you should know better than to trust my judgement by now...
I might have ignored the fact that Groin looked quite innocent and kept pursuing him with my weak day 1 reasons, hadn't you said it aloud. :p

[Gwathagor]

Any ideas on how to be a better werewolf, should I have the misfortune to be cast in such a role again in the future?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Any ideas on how to be a better werewolf, should I have the misfortune to be cast in such a role again in the future?

Yes: Do not write to Sally "DON'T quote me! We are NOT on speaking terms." when the game is still running, because one who reads it will conclude either that A) she is not a fellow Wolf, logically, because you blame her for your lynching, B) she is a fellow Wolf, but in any case she lynched you and you don't like it, so it was not part of any wolfy plan - both these variants leak out information outside the game, and this is why you should not talk about the running game at all outside the game until it is completed - or C) eventually you are bluffing, because it was part of a plan, but that would be even worse, because that's, in a way, cheating.

[Nogrod]

It's hard to say how to be a better werewolf as both the personal styles of playing and the combination of other players seem to produce a bit different dynamic every time. I mean I have been an excellent werewolf (like in the last game where we all three stayed alive and butchered the whole village) but also a lousy one (being lynched on Day1). I'm not sure how those things happened other that they were a combination of adjusting or not being able to adjust to the present game and trying to see the way through it.

But if you want a catch-phrase then try this: be yourself even if you are a baddie, speak and act like you would do were you your innocent self. It's hard sometimes - most of the times - to be sure... and it doesn't even always pay off. :rolleyes:

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I agree that is feels pretty nasty to see Gil go everytime so early... well not every time but pretty regularly. But this time I think there was a difference which was his insistence that he would only speak his mind the next Day. Now if we think that everyone would adopt the tactics saying "you should not lynch me toDay as I will speak toMorrow" it would obviously be a disaster for the game. :p

Had he been open with his supicions I probably would have voted Gwath instead of him... and that would have been good indeed... Sorry Gil.

Fair play. . . . It just seemed like a normal "lets get rid of Gil" day at the office, but I was mistaking.

Kind of like when Wayn The Goblin (cannot remember how it was spelled) used to play, he two was often removed from the game quite early. He said even less than Gil and I must admit that I voted for him several times in lack of better suspects.

[Gil-Galad]

Fair play. . . . It just seemed like a normal "lets get rid of Gil" day at the office, but I was mistaking.

Kind of like when Wayn The Goblin (cannot remember how it was spelled) used to play, he two was often removed from the game quite early. He said even less than Gil and I must admit that I voted for him several times in lack of better suspects.

the thing about first day, nobody truly has an idea of whose who except the wolves(to some extent). i remember how my first couple of WW games went like

Game 1: tried playing quiet and under radar. lynched day 1
Game 2: tried talking as much as possible and asking everyone questions. lynched day 1
Game 3: was busy all day, so no talking from me. lynched day 1. came back as hunter around end of game to replace the storm maiden(she has been gone too long).

what really got me frustrated was that every strategy i tried, it always got me lynched. made me want to give up WW for good seeing how i get no good games out of it. but i stuck by, and i had two great games. one where i was a werewolf and survived till end(taking dear nogrod down with me) and the other where i was glorfindel the hunter and killed a balrog with me. those games are few and rare now a days...

[THE Ka]

be yourself even if you are a baddie, speak and act like you would do were you your innocent self. It's hard sometimes - most of the times - to be sure... and it doesn't even always pay off.

Too true...

Though, it is better than playing so out of your element that you practically hand yourself over to people as a scapegoat. It is good to experiment sometimes, but you just have to find your comfort zone once you do, and always realize that people are naturally going to be a bit crazy in WW when they need a vote.

It just happens, most predictably on the first day. Just don't let it go to your head and have fun at any little thing you can do before you leave, or win. I guess we all made that little mistake earlier and WW was almost banned for good, until we finally realized that hey, it's just a game. So don't forget that! :p:Merisu:

Okay, that's the only bit of advice I can give. Have fun and stay relatively 'sane' as you find what works best for you.

~ Ka

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

the thing about first day, nobody truly has an idea of whose who except the wolves(to some extent). i remember how my first couple of WW games went like

Game 1: tried playing quiet and under radar. lynched day 1
Game 2: tried talking as much as possible and asking everyone questions. lynched day 1
Game 3: was busy all day, so no talking from me. lynched day 1. came back as hunter around end of game to replace the storm maiden(she has been gone too long).

what really got me frustrated was that every strategy i tried, it always got me lynched. made me want to give up WW for good seeing how i get no good games out of it. but i stuck by, and i had two great games. one where i was a werewolf and survived till end(taking dear nogrod down with me) and the other where i was glorfindel the hunter and killed a balrog with me. those games are few and rare now a days...

I cannot remember if I was playing or just following the game where you stuck around to the end, but actually that game is the exeption that confirms the rule about you and ww. . .

Anywasy Gil, I am sorry to say this, but even when you change your tactics there is little change to spot for us. .. (me) Even when you try to be vocal you still apear to be silent, I guess it has something to do with the way you write. . . But this is just my opinion, I might be totaly mistaking.

[Thinlómien]

Anywasy Gil, I am sorry to say this, but even when you change your tactics there is little change to spot for us. .. (me) Even when you try to be vocal you still apear to be silent, I guess it has something to do with the way you write. . . But this is just my opinion, I might be totaly mistaking.
Hmmm... I agree. But there is a difference between a vocal and a silent Gil, I think. And Gil you were brilliant in the werebalrog-game. :D

Sally, I'm curious - did you have any specific reasons for picking the dreams you picked?

[Gil-Galad]

my playing style, how i describe it, is one of watching then deciding. the biggest mistakes in every WW game is acting to fast without fully thinking it over. i tried to preach that more in this game, but alas i got lynched for it too.

let me ask you this, which would you rather lynch?

a loud Gil that brings nothing to the discussion, just useless babble.

or

a collected Gil that talks when he should and tries not to give out random suspicions based on loose and broken examples.


i pretty much after every game i am always stating why i was lynched, i just want players to think before lynching me for the same reason every game...

[Gwathagor]

I'm sorry, Gil-galad. I wouldn't have voted for you if I had been innocent. :p First days are rubbish; it's almost useless to try to do anything constructive with them if you want to stay alive, which is actually all the first day is really about: survival. If you try to be helpful, they kill you.

[satansaloser2005]

Sally, I'm curious - did you have any specific reasons for picking the dreams you picked?

Not the first couple of nights, no. The first night I dreamt Noggie because....well, because I always have such a hard time reading him, and if there's anyone I wanted to know right away which side he was on, it was him.
The second night I decided to dream either Nerwen or Rune; why I ended up picking Rune I don't remember, but I'm glad I did because the Day dawned and Nerwen was dead.
After we killed poor Agan, I found Ka and Gwath equally suspicious, but I figured that Gwath had escaped my attention long enough, and lo and behold I found myself a traitor. And our lovely Miss Greenie took care of one for us of course, which was a big help.
I looked back at the voting the next night and figured Cabbie was an ordo because who in their right mind would sic their entire wolfpack on their packmate, especially when Cabbie had been doing really well and their antics could have gotten him killed? (I figured I could always dream him the next night if it became necessary) That left me with a Night 4 dream going to either you (Lommie) or Menel. At that point, I still had no suspicions of Groin at all. I decided since all my dream subjects had survived so far, I'd try to find an ordo rather than a wolf, and then it would be just a game of odds between Lommie and Groin and if we got the wrong one I'd probably get killed but the others could rectify my mistake the next Day. So I dreamt Menel as innocent and the rest you know.

[Thinlómien]

One day, Nogrod, Thinlómien, Aganzir and A Little Green decided to have a little fun with their characters...

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i55/Thinlomien/fellowship/fellowship011b.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i55/Thinlomien/fellowship/fellowship016b.jpg

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i55/Thinlomien/fellowship/fellowship019b.jpg

[Thinlómien]

Tom Bombadil

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i55/Thinlomien/fellowship/fellowship017b.jpg


Gildor Inglorion

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i55/Thinlomien/fellowship/fellowship033b.jpg


Gildor fights a Nasty She-Balrog

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i55/Thinlomien/fellowship/fellowship028b.jpg

[Aganzir]

Lobelia Sackville-Baggins, who refused to be barefoot as the temperature was only a bit above zero.

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i55/Thinlomien/fellowship/fellowship048b.jpg


Lobelia fights Éomer (since they didn't really get along)

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i55/Thinlomien/fellowship/fellowship051b.jpg

[A Little Green]

Éomer son of Éomund, the 3rd Marshal of the Mark, and his grave

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i55/Thinlomien/fellowship/fellowship023b.jpg


Éomer and his dear cousin Théodred shared the horse on their way to Rivendell...

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i55/Thinlomien/fellowship/fellowship059b.jpg


...and then Éomer got a bit carried away

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i55/Thinlomien/fellowship/fellowship054b.jpg


----


Now, dear members of the fellowship, we challenge you to do the same! :P

[satansaloser2005]

My dears, that didn't make my day, I hate to tell you. It made my entire WEEKEND!


...and then Éomer got a bit carried away

:eek:

Although....hehe....depending on how tall you are, Greenie, that may well be my stunt double, except with yellow hair. Poor thing looks quite pint-sized. :rolleyes: But I'd be careful, love. I've heard those living plastic creatures can be fun, but dangerous. ;)

[A Little Green]

Good that you liked them, dear. :p

Sorry for that Théodred. I'm sure you'll make a better one. (Oh yes, that is a challenge! :p) And feel free to make as silly a Éomer as you can possibly think of for background if you feel like it. :D

As for the height... I'm only something like 162 cm tall, so our Théodred seems to be quite a dwarf... Sad enough he can't be removed from his horse so we'll never know just how short he is. Not that his poor horse is too big either.

[skip spence]

Oh my, aren't you a camp bunch. :)

Great fun those pictures. It's nice to see the faces of a few fellow members too. Are you guys family or 'just' friends?

This is in Finland I understand? Those pictures make me miss walking in the pineforests up north, although the grey skies also look perhaps too familiar.

[Thinlómien]

Oh my, aren't you a camp bunch. :)

Great fun those pictures. It's nice to see the faces of a few fellow members too. Are you guys family or 'just' friends?

This is in Finland I understand? Those pictures make me miss walking in the pineforests up north, although the grey skies also look perhaps too familiar.Haha. Yes, it is in Finland and this is what our spring looks like at the moment... :D And as for being family, Nogrod is my and Green's father, Agan is not related us to us in any way (but she's one of my best RL friends).

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

My god(s)!

You are sick, sick I tell you!






. . . .Of course I ment that in a good way. . . . . . :p

[Gil-Galad]

thanks to green's photo i just remembered i should buy some fingerless gloves for my drumming... ha...

[Aganzir]

My god(s)!

You are sick, sick I tell you!






. . . .Of course I ment that in a good way. . . . . . :p
Yes, and we most definitely want to see a picture of you as Galadriel. :p

[Nogrod]

This is in Finland I understand? Those pictures make me miss walking in the pineforests up north, although the grey skies also look perhaps too familiar.Believe it or not but these are taken in the central park of Helsinki which I live beside of, like thirty meters from the door. And it's only about an half an hour's walk to the downtown! So yes Finland is "up north" and we still live in the woods... :D

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Like I said to these people depicted up there: I was not aware that my game will have such an impact ;) :)

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Yes, and we most definitely want to see a picture of you as Galadriel. :p

hmmm I was thinking of shaving and my gay flatmate wants to do my hair in a girly way. . .I guess all I really need is a proper dress and a good setting.


Interesting that I felt the need to point out that he is gay. . .that probably says alot about me.

Anyways I thought your boot-wearing-Lobelia was very good, I am sure that at the time you are 70 years old it will be perfect.

[Aganzir]

Anyways I thought your boot-wearing-Lobelia was very good, I am sure that at the time you are 70 years old it will be perfect.
Thanks. :D When I'm 70 I can walk around looking like this seriously, and scare the kids (who were laughing at us now).

And it shouldn't be that difficult to find a nice dress. :p You could even include in the pic the thing Legate didn't accept to put in the narrations; Galadriel giving the Fellowship smørrebrød instead of lembas, that is. ;)

[skip spence]

Haha. Yes, it is in Finland and this is what our spring looks like at the moment... :D And as for being family, Nogrod is my and Green's father, Agan is not related us to us in any way (but she's one of my best RL friends).

As a former resident of northern Sweden I know well that there's no spring to speak of up there. There's vinter, a looong vinter, then comes this, and before you know it summer arrives to briefly disappoint and be gone again. Oh well, there's always the hope of global warming ;)

You are all very cute in your costumes in any case. I wouldn't say Nogrod looks cute in those yellow boots though, but they are a nice touch nevertheless. :)

And Nogrod, where I grew up we have great pineforests right up to our doorsteps. I once saw a wolf just a few hundred metres from our house.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

And it shouldn't be that difficult to find a nice dress. :p You could even include in the pic the thing Legate didn't accept to put in the narrations; Galadriel giving the Fellowship smørrebrød instead of lembas, that is. ;)

Hah! I live right next to a smørrebrød place.

You must understand that I have so high thoughts of Galadriel that the dress would have to be absolutely perfect.

[Aganzir]

You must understand that I have so high thoughts of Galadriel that the dress would have to be absolutely perfect.
Yet I doubt she would wear her most perfect dresses when on a journey.

[satansaloser2005]

Oh dear. I'm envisioning Rune in a dress now, with his hair all gussied up and everything. Not good for my psyche....but I'm enjoying it nonetheless.

And again, further proof that you all are insane. :p

[Gwathagor]

Awesome! COOL boots..and cloaks...and swords!

[Groin Redbeard]

I'm speechless!:eek: You did an amazingly great job on those costumes! I couldn't help but laugh at Nogrod's yellow boots. :D

[Nerwen]

*is stunned*

Where did you get those costumes?

And have any of you ever taken the Original Geek Test? I think it's about time.:D

http://www.innergeek.us/geek-test.html

[Gwathagor]

Wow...I'm not even a Total Geek.:)

[Gwathagor]

Wait, who took the pictures?

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Wait, who took the pictures?

Interesting. . .I was just considering if I should ask that very question.


Yet I doubt she would wear her most perfect dresses when on a journey.
Anyways even though Galadriel would not wear her most amazing gown, I would still not want to pose in something only semi-elvish.

[A Little Green]

Thanks everyone, you are so sweet. :D

Wait, who took the pictures? The group photos were taken by a friend of ours who also lent us the swords and portrayed the Balrog, the rest by me or by Lommy.

Where did you get those costumes? Here and there... Most of them we found by looking through our own and our families' wardrobes, some of them we bought from a second-hand shop, and some of them Agan made. She made my lovely fur-lined cloak and painted Nogrod's boots, for example.

COOL boots..and cloaks...and swords!As for the cool boots, mine are Agan's mother's old riding boots and Lommy and Agan are wearing their own ones. Nog's are his rubber boots just painted yellow. :p

[Aganzir]

And have any of you ever taken the Original Geek Test? I think it's about time.
I scored about 20 %. Not even a total geek. :p

She made my lovely fur-lined cloak...
...when she was in lower secondary school. ;) Well, I sewed the fur lining now, but it didn't take much time, and as I have nothing against sewing and painting, it wasn't that bad.