Admin Thread for Werewolf XLVIII: When Virtual Becomes Reality

[Brinniel]

Welcome to the 48th edition of Werewolf!

For the past several weeks there have been technical difficulties on the Barrow Downs. There have been obscene amounts of spamming and popular Downers have been receiving anonymous negative reps for no apparent reason. During different times of the day, sometimes hours at a time, the Downs is inaccessible to many and when the server isn’t Down, the smileys are…and suddenly once invisible ‘secret moderator forums’ become accessible to all. The BW has recently received complaints by several Downers that someone has been hacking into their accounts and making inappropriate posts. Now with all the mods’ accounts blocked and the BW unable to fix these technical difficulties himself, he has decided it is time to seek the source of the problem.

The Roles:

After our DWII epic, this game will be a fairly simple one.

3 hackers/werewolves
3 moderators/gifteds (seer, ranger, and hunter)
1 spammer/cobbler
And of course the rest are ordos

The Rules:

-The game will start with a Night phase.

-There will be absolutely no hints in the narrations!

-There will be no double lynches. In the case of a tie, the lynch will be randomized.

-No retractions are allowed.

-Those who do not vote two Days in a row will be modfired.

-Only the werewolves may talk at Night.

-Once you’re dead, you’re dead. That means no discussing the game, inside or outside the Barrow Downs.

-The ranger can protect someone more than once, but not two Nights in a row. He/she may protect him/herself once the entire game.

-The hunter will be a logical hunter.

-The deadline is now at 11pm GMT.

The Characters:

For your occupation (or whatever you want to call it), you may choose to be whatever stereotypical (or untypical) type of forum member you like. For example, you may choose to be the rabid fangirl, the purist…whatever. As long as it doesn’t interfere with the game roles (so you can’t be a spammer).

(Another idea: I originally had an idea for players to play each other as their character roles. I thought it’d be really fun…however, I found that there would be too many problems that could come up. For one, it may get too confusing and secondly, I worry that someone may get offended. Plus, it may make it more difficult for any possible newbies that may come along. But if anyone thinks otherwise and feels strongly for this idea…then please share your opinion. After all, it’s up to you players on what you want.)

Other notes:

I haven’t decided on a deadline yet, but my preferred time span is something around 9pm-12am GMT. If need be, could go even earlier.

I know it’s the summer holidays and all…and since we just finished a huge game, some of you may want a short break. I wasn’t in a rush to get this thread up because I know a lot of people are unavailable this weekend and possibly next week due to midsummer or whatever. And for me, it is the following weekend (27-30) that I will be busy. That means I won’t be starting the game any sooner than July 1. That gives a little less than two weeks for people to sign up. If we have enough players we will start on July 1, but would like a decent size village (15+) if possible, so if the sign ups are slow-going I can wait longer. American players- I know a lot of people go out of town for the 4th of July weekend…I will be around but if there are enough of you who aren’t, then we can work around that.

One more thing: At the time being, I am unemployed with all the time in the world on my hands. But I am hunting for a job and in the case that I do get one, I will most likely need a co-mod. It is not an issue I have to worry about right now, but it is something that I as well as anyone who may be interested should take into consideration.

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Players:

Nilpaurion Felagund~Ainulindalë Addict
Kitanna~the self-righteous know-it-all
Aganzir~non-anonymous neg-repper
Shastanis Althreduin~chatspeak translator
Nerwen~rabid fangirl
Boromir88~the one upper
Kath~artiste
Rikae~the person who tries to fake knowledge of the books and fails miserably
Durelin~Unreliable RPG Addict
Eomer of the Rohirrim~easily-offended trendy
Nogrod~the wanna-be moderator
The Elf-Warrior~nitpicker
satansaloser2005~a fan of everything but Tolkien
THE Ka~Artful Dodger
Eönwë~conspiracy theorist
The Sixth Wizard~grammar Nazi
Formendacil~Tolkien Canonist
Mithalwen~therapist
McCaber~does it 4 teh lulz

Sign up now! :)

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

As for an in-character trait, can I be Mr. Underhill? :D

I can't? Well, then, I shall be a troll who cant spell rite (subject to change, though).

Sehr interessant concept, vzv, Brinn. :)

[Kitanna]

Sign me up. I died far too quickly last time. As far as stereotypical forum member....mmm I'll have to think about it.

[Aganzir]

Ooh, I wanna play!

Though I hope the game will be over (at least from my part) by 22nd of July, since after that I'll be away for some three weeks.

I'll think of an occupation later.

[Aganzir]

I’m still deciding whether the hunted should be killed regardless if they’re a wolf or not…let me know your thoughts on this
I think this should depend on the size of the village (or, err, meeting). With a 15+ village the hunted could be killed regardless of their role, but if there are fewer players, the hunter could only be able to kill wolves.

And as for occupation... Does anonymous neg-repper interfere with the roles? :p

edit: Oh yes, and the deadline suggestions are fine with me, though the earlier the better, since I noticed DW affected my sleep rhythm rather badly. And do you mean the latest possible deadline is 12 am GMT or GST?

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I'd like to play, as a chatspeak translator. :p Dirty job, but someone's gotta do it.

[Brinniel]

Though I hope the game will be over (at least from my part) by 22nd of June, since after that I'll be away for some three weeks.
Of June or July? Because you know, the 22nd of June is three days from now. ;)

And as for occupation... Does anonymous neg-repper interfere with the roles?
Hmm...I'm afraid so. Neg-repping is a job for the nasty wolves. :p

And do you mean the latest possible deadline is 12 am GMT or GST?
GMT. It's much easier to calculate the time difference by looking at the bottom of the BD page, which goes by GMT (I'm in GMT -6).

[Aganzir]

Of June or July? Because you know, the 22nd of June is three days from now.
July. :D I'll go edit it.

Hmm...I'm afraid so. Neg-repping is a job for the nasty wolves.
Could I be the non-anonymous neg-repper, then? ;):p

[Nerwen]

Count me in.

I'll be a rabid fangirl. Not that we seem to have any on this forum.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

9-12 GMT is 16-19 local, which means I might get to participate in DAY-end madness. :D

Oh, I've had a change of mind, I'd rather stick to one of my semi-real forum personae: Ainulindalë Addict.

[Kitanna]

So, I've seen this type of forum member on many forums about the web, the self-righteous know-it-all, I chose such an annoying member as my occupation.

[Boromir88]

Sign me up :D

Edit: Make me the "one better" person, I always have to top everyone else.

[Brinniel]

Could I be the non-anonymous neg-repper, then?
Well sure then....since I know you can't ever pass up the opportunity to be mischievous. :p

I'll be a rabid fangirl. Not that we seem to have any on this forum.
Not so much anymore, but back in the day when the movies first came out we had our fair share of 'LegolasLuvers' and 'Frodosgirls.' :rolleyes: I used to make a lot of jokes about rabid fangirls in old Mirth threads. :D

On my way to update the list...

[Mithalwen]

Probably shouldn't play but..... avoids this weekend and next when I have stuff on ..

Could I be pencilled in? Probably as the person Boromir has to go one better than ;) :p

[Kath]

Ooh I'll play! I'll need something non-physical to do during Death Week. Don't know about a role though, I'll have a think.

[Rikae]

Oh, make me the spammer, please, please, pleeez.... :Merisu:

I'll be the person who tries to fake knowledge of the books and fails miserably (sorry I can't say that more concisely).

"But in 'Thingymabobs of M-E' (book 3, page 3436), Tolkein says that dragons were not created by Moregoth, but by the flower fairies." :D

[Volo]

Gah! Not only was I thinking for a Downs-themed concept for the next WW I mod - I'll see what you write in this game and rethink my ideas - but I have no chance of playing in this game as my camp starts on the 6th of July. Sorry... and have fun!

PS: Even if I don't join the game, may I still neg-rep people anonymously? :Merisu: http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b205/ih8mcdonalds/Wolfbite2.gif

[Brinniel]

Even if I don't join the game, may I still neg-rep people anonymously?
Only if I get to neg-rep you first! ;) :p

Sorry you can't join the game. And I'm curious to see how your WW concept shapes out (hopefully you won't have to rethink it too much).

[Durelin]

Count me in, please! As for a role...Unreliable RPG Addict? :rolleyes: :D

We definitely need a crazy Tolkien purist...

[Boromir88]

Could I be pencilled in? Probably as the person Boromir has to go one better than
Well I'm penned in, so beat that. :rolleyes:

I say make it a normal hunter (meaning kill whoever the hunter chooses) that's what makes the role challenging and fun.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Mummy Mith and Boro, how glad to have a chance to play with you again. :)

That the Music of the Ainur should ordain this, blessed be Eru!

Unless they're of the Second Children, who have freedom beyond the Music. . .

Then Ilúvatar himself has intervened in the Music, to make it thus. Blessed still be Eru!

Ooh, a sampler of your IC posting, how . . . annoying. :rolleyes:

[Brinniel]

As for a role...Unreliable RPG Addict?
Oh good, I was hoping someone would choose an RPG role. :D

I say make it a normal hunter (meaning kill whoever the hunter chooses) that's what makes the role challenging and fun.
I do agree that a normal hunter would probably be better...but as Aganzir said, I think it'll end up depending on the size of the village. If the number of players is small, then I'd rather not have the hunter take an extra innocent with him. Though if sign-ups continue at this pace, then we won't have to worry about that. :)

[Eönwë]

I don't don't know if time will allow, but sign me up (with a big question mark, just in case) as a conspiracy theorist.

[Lhunardawen]

We definitely need a crazy Tolkien purist...

If anyone can bug Form into joining :D - which would probably be impossible given his busy summer...

[Mithalwen]

I would have a hunter that if lynched takes their choice down regardless but if is the wolf kill choice only kills if their choice is a wolf. I think it was Roa who pointed out that it was illogical for a dying hunter to take out a non-wolf at night, however a lynched hunter might take any of the village down with them.

As for my role I was tempted to be one of the people who take it a bit too seriously and don't like references to anything that suggests it isn't real..but it seems my boy Nilp is half way there.. :p

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Can I play? I'd like to be the easily-offended trendy. The movies were killer, come on!? Look at those awards!?!?!? I just don't get why you geeks have to be so mean to me!?!? Idiots!!! By the way, what's a Balrog???

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

It seems that fate has compelled me to make an error in my computation:

9pm-12am GMT is 5-8am local . . .

I do hope the Ainur have sung it to be the latter, so I can do DAY-end stuff before going off to school.

Oh, and mae govannen, cousin Eomer. I see that the Music has decreed our playing together once more.

With him either as a wolf or a short-lived ordo?

Hush, Adam. It is not for us to discern what Eru wills, merely to play our part in his Theme.

[Nogrod]

I'll be definitively in.

I'll come up with a role tomorrow.

Nice idea!

[The Elf-warrior]

I'll be a nitpicker.

[Kath]

I thought about being a chatspeak-fangurl type person, but then realised that the stress of having to deliberately spell things wrong might just send me to an early grave. Then I thought about doing the opposite, being the spelling/grammar etc. nut, but all of you write far too well for that.

So yeah, I'm still stuck. :D

[Nerwen]

But you forget... some of us are playing fangurls...

ZMOG! LEGGY IZ SO HAWT!1111!!!!!

[Shastanis Althreduin]

But you forget... some of us are playing fangurls...

ZMOG! LEGGY IZ SO HAWT!1111!!!!!


Translation:

Oh, my goodness. Legolas is quite attractive.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

OMG Shasta I GET it...........Im not stupid!?!?!

;)

I think this could be one of the funnier Day One's. :D

[Nerwen]

thnx shasta!!!111!!!

[Kath]

ZMOG! LEGGY IZ SO HAWT!1111!!!!!
*headdesk*

:D

[Aganzir]

I would have a hunter that if lynched takes their choice down regardless but if is the wolf kill choice only kills if their choice is a wolf. I think it was Roa who pointed out that it was illogical for a dying hunter to take out a non-wolf at night, however a lynched hunter might take any of the village down with them.
Oh yes I agree about the lynching stuff.

What do you think of Rikae's post?
(x) I disapprove
Don't you know anything about Tolkien eh? -Agan

What do you think of Eomer of the Rohirrim's post?
(x) I disapprove
The movies suck. You're stupid. -Agan

What do you think of Nerwen's post?
(x) I disapprove
Legolas is disgusting. -Agan

[Nerwen]

What do you think of Nerwen's post?
(x) I disapprove
Legolas is disgusting. -Agan

O RLY?????

[Nogrod]

We are clearly in need of a moderator on this thread... :)

So let me be the pathetic mod who wants to be nice to all and may get carried away but still wishes to perform his duties.

(And just to make it clear: no there's no inspiring example of that here in the 'Downs but it is more than easy to imagine one - a nerd who's gained a few years of age and is still fanatic of his subject the forum is about, and loves the stature of a mod as something he has accomplished in his life, but when he would have to act he's more than unable to do it...)

[Thinlómien]

I'd so much want to play. Especially as Boro and Mith seem to be playing - it has been too long since I played with them. But there's a problem, and it's that I won't be able to play in the next two weeks. I could play if the game started on the 7th or on the 8th, or later (that would be even better), but there seems to be little chance of that... But if/as I'm unable to play, I will probably read through your struggle later...

[satansaloser2005]

everything she's said so far....




You. Are. Awesome. *died of laughter at the last few posts*




*cough* Shasta won't stop bothering me to join. *cough*
*more cough* If the deadline is 12AM GMT, I can, and may be tempted to, even though I'll go nuts. *more cough*
*coughier, which isn't even a word* I'm a terrible person. Addict? No not me. Never. *coughiest, then shuts up*

*shifty eyes, backs away*

[Shastanis Althreduin]

thnx shasta!!!111!!!

Translation:
Thank you very much, Shasta. You are a considerate human being.

:D

[Gwathagor]

Hey! WW! Sign me up.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I think this could be one of the funnier Day One's. :D (Eomer of the Wargs)If Manwë, in his wisdom, has sung it be so, then I shall be pleased.
What do you think of Rikae's post?
(x) I disapprove
Don't you know anything about Tolkien eh? -Agan

What do you think of Eomer of the Rohirrim's post?
(x) I disapprove
The movies suck. You're stupid. -Agan

What do you think of Nerwen's post?
(x) I disapprove
Legolas is disgusting. -Agan (Aganzir)What do you think of Aganzir's post?
(x) I disapprove
Your comments on this post:
It was fated that I should disapprove; Melkor's theme waxes fat with the hatred you spread. ++Nilp

( :p )

[Brinniel]

We are clearly in need of a moderator on this thread...

So let me be the pathetic mod who wants to be nice to all and may get carried away but still wishes to perform his duties.
I do agree we certainly could use some mods. However...that would be the job of the gifteds (who are in this game equal to moderators). So unfortunately, a mod cannot be used as a character role..

I'd so much want to play. Especially as Boro and Mith seem to be playing - it has been too long since I played with them. But there's a problem, and it's that I won't be able to play in the next two weeks. I could play if the game started on the 7th or on the 8th, or later (that would be even better), but there seems to be little chance of that... But if/as I'm unable to play, I will probably read through your struggle later...
Aww...pity. :(

I have before considered not starting the game until the 7th. Mainly because as mentioned, it's the 4th of July holidays coming up and many Americans go out of town. But since the holidays have no effect on me and plenty of people are signing up, the need to do that is looking less and less likely. If enough people petition to delay the game by a week I will, but otherwise I'll plan to start it on the 1st.

*cough* Shasta won't stop bothering me to join. *cough*
*more cough* If the deadline is 12AM GMT, I can, and may be tempted to, even though I'll go nuts. *more cough*
Oh, you should join. :D

As for deadlines, some seem to want it earlier and others later. Unfortunately, I can't actually confirm a deadline just yet since if my unemployed status changes, my time availability could too. But if everyone would like to share their deadline preferences, both within the time range I chose as well as beyond, that would at least give me a better idea for a more exact deadline to aim for. :)

[satansaloser2005]

Oh, you should join.

As for deadlines, some seem to want it earlier and others later. Unfortunately, I can't actually confirm a deadline just yet since if my unemployed status changes, my time availability could too. But if everyone would like to share their deadline preferences, both within the time range I chose as well as beyond, that would at least give me a better idea for a more exact deadline to aim for.

I probably will, but only if the deadline is AFTER I get off work this time. Last time I got off work at the same time as DL and it drove me nuts. Heh.

I'll let you know for sure probably some time later this week or so. Besides, I need to come up with a good character. ;)

[Eönwë]

I do agree we certainly could use some mods. However...that would be the job of the gifteds (who are in this game equal to moderators). So unfortunately, a mod cannot be used as a character role.

Well, Nogrod, maybe you could be an ex-mod, who wants to gain his modship back. Or someone who really wants to be a mod.

[Aganzir]

I would prefer the deadline to be 9pm gmt, but I guess I'm fine even with a later one.

What do you think of Nilpaurion Felagund's post?
(x) I disapprove
LAA LAA! Here's some Ainulindalë for you. -Agan

[Rikae]

The deadline makes no difference to me, and neither does the 4th, pesky American though I may be.

What do you think of Rikae's post?
(x) I disapprove
Don't you know anything about Tolkien eh? -Agan

Of course I do. He had Finnish ancestry and taught woodworking classes at his local vocational school when he wasn't reading his stories to the ducks at the park (lonely single old geezer that he was). Sheesh - everybody knows that!
Also, as someone mentioned further up the thread, Melkor was fat. And ate wax. :p
(Melkor, of course, was originally one of the ducks.)

[Volo]

:D:D

It looks like a sad fate to miss this game.

[Nerwen]

Melkor was fat. And ate wax. :p
(Melkor, of course, was originally one of the ducks.)

LOL!!! ROFLMAO!!!111!!!

[Gwathagor]

My occupation shall be the pseudo-intellectual, who abuses the smatterings of his classical education (i.e. a few Shakespeare quotes, the use of semi-colons, and The Sorrow of Young Werther) that he can still remember to make himself seem intelligent.

[Lhunardawen]

:D:D

It looks like a sad fate to miss this game.
You said it, Volo. I think Nienna sang two notes about this, one for each of us.

[McCaber]

I should be able to devote more time to this one now, so sign me up with an erasable marker.

For an occupation, I can be "does it 4 teh lulz" zomg

[Shastanis Althreduin]

LOL!!! ROFLMAO!!!111!!!

Translation:

Oh my goodness. I find this quite amusing and hilarious. Tee hee.

[Nerwen]

gr8 trnsl8ng shasta!!!111!!!

[satansaloser2005]

gr8 trnsl8ng shasta!!!111!!!


*loves Shasta* I'm happy you're here to translate. I don't speak annoying fangurl very well. All I know how to say is "Squee!" and since that's the same in every language it doesn't really count....

[Gwathagor]

...and what DOES "squeee" mean, (outside of its original usage in Aeschylus, of course)?

[Shastanis Althreduin]

gr8 trnsl8ng shasta!!!111!!!

Translation:

Wonderful job of translating my every word into something understandable and readable, Shasta. I know it's tough separating real syllables from the rest of the gobbledygook, but you do it beautifully. My compliments.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

The joke is going to wear thin before the game starts if you keep this up. :p

[Nerwen]

*switches back to English*

You have a point there, Eomer.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

So . . . anyone else joining? We have 13 forum members and 3 lurkers.

(You know what I mean. :p )

[Brinniel]

Okay, I just sent a whole bunch of invitations. Hopefully at least a few of them will join. The number of players we have now isn't bad, though I would like a few more. If our three question marks confirm their participation, then I'll most probably be starting on the 1st. But otherwise...well, we have a few more days so we'll see how it goes...

[Gwathagor]

I just remembered that I'm going to be gone between the 4th and the 10th or so, and will have no internet access. (In fact, I won't have any plumbing or electricity either.) Consequently, I will have to pull out unless for some reason the game doesn't start before the 10th. Sorry!:rolleyes:

[Brinniel]

Sorry to hear that, Gwath. :(

But have fun on your camping trip or wherever it is you're going..

[satansaloser2005]

Okay, I just sent a whole bunch of invitations. Hopefully at least a few of them will join. The number of players we have now isn't bad, though I would like a few more. If our three question marks confirm their participation, then I'll most probably be starting on the 1st. But otherwise...well, we have a few more days so we'll see how it goes...



Erm....I'm in by the way (at least as far as I know). Just so it's all official and stuff. :)


And I picked up someone's wireless at my house (yes....at my HOUSE....sorry, excited) so although I won't be guaranteed to be around right before DL I'll be able to post more regularly than I thought I would. :D

[Gwathagor]

Sorry to hear that, Gwath. :(

But have fun on your camping trip or wherever it is you're going..

Yeah, it's KINDA camping. My grandparents have a big ranch way out in the hills in Eastern Oregon. Old log cabin and stuff.

[Nogrod]

Yeah, it's KINDA camping. My grandparents have a big ranch way out in the hills in Eastern Oregon. Old log cabin and stuff.Going in to the middle of nowhere into a wooden cabin where there is no electricity, no running water, no TV or internet... sounds like we Finns have a lot to share with you. I mean that's the national passtime for us Finns during the summer... we've done it already at the Midsummer eve's festivities and we will be dragging Rune and Legate there too later in the summer... :rolleyes:

But regarding my role then... in this game I mean... I could then be the wanna-be moderator - eg. the one who Rreeeally wants to be acknowledged as one capable of it and earning the honour.

And I will really try to play in that mode as well. Just for you to know.

[Eönwë]

There, I've returned! And just in time by the looks of things 'round 'ere (I just wanted an excuse to say that).

[THE Ka]

Thanks for the invite Brinn, since I'm currently job hunting right now too I have plenty of time for another go at WW. I'm not exactly sure when I'll start working, and my parents are getting married and off for five days, so I'm manning the homestead for awhile and have plenty of time to play. :)

I love the concept btw, reminds me of Mike Reed's website.


... and because I cannot think of a single role to play, I sought out flame warriors to find one:

Artful Dodger (http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/artfuldodger.htm)

I think I'd like to try a role that doesn't have me so out of the fray of replying, and under the radar as I usually fall into. Plus, I'm too much of a bliss ninny (http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/blissninny.htm)at times. I need to be mean, or at least appear to be.

~ Ka

[Brinniel]

But regarding my role then... in this game I mean... I could then be the wanna-be moderator - eg. the one who Rreeeally wants to be acknowledged as one capable of it and earning the honour.
Oh good, I'm glad you chose that one. I was liking Eonwe's idea. :)

There, I've returned! And just in time by the looks of things 'round 'ere (I just wanted an excuse to say that).
Does that mean you're in for sure?

Thanks for the invite Brinn, since I'm currently job hunting right now too I have plenty of time for another go at WW. I'm not exactly sure when I'll start working, and my parents are getting married and off for five days, so I'm manning the homestead for awhile and have plenty of time to play.
Funny thing...the first time I read this post, I somehow read it that you were unable to play...luckily I reread it. Proves how tired I am. Time for me to get some sleep. :rolleyes:

[Eönwë]

Does that mean you're in for sure?

It does.

But has the DL been finalised yet?

[Nogrod]

But has the DL been finalised yet?Or the beginning date? :)

[Eönwë]

Isn't that today?

[The Sixth Wizard]

**Drops everything. Reads the outline of the game. Doesn't even read the rest of the Admin Thread. Sign up for WereWolf straight away.**

Finally a werewolf I have the time to be in!

How's it going, long-time-no-see-ers?

Oh yes, as for a role, make me a nitpicky grammar Nazi. Ending a sentence with a preposition I will not like! :D

[satansaloser2005]

**Drops everything. Reads the outline of the game. Doesn't even read the rest of the Admin Thread. Sign up for WereWolf straight away.**

Finally a werewolf I have the time to be in!

How's it going, long-time-no-see-ers?

Oh yes, as for a role, make me a nitpicky grammar Nazi. End a sentence with a preposition you had better not! :D

Blast. I was thinking of doing that. Then again, that'd be no fun for me anyway. I'll just have to be a person who makes occasional "accidental" mistakes. Have to keep you on your toes, after all. ;)

And welcome to the game, by the way! :)



Brinn, any ideas for deadline? Or still up in the air?

Oh, and I was thinking about maybe being a person who, essentially, is in the wrong fandom. For example, talking about Doctor Who (spoiler-free of course, for my fellow American Whovians) or....blah, I don't know.....anyway talking about fandoms other than Tolkien. It was just one of the ideas I've been tossing about. I'll let you know for sure before the game starts. *apologizes for her silly indecisiveness*

[Brinniel]

Hello all-

Sorry I've taken so long to get back to you. I see no reason to delay the game another week as we seem to have plenty of players. However, my weekend was longer and busier than expected so I would like to delay starting by a day so that I have some extra time to recollect my thoughts if that's alright for everyone.

So unless any serious problems arrive, I plan to start the game on July 2. The deadline will be 11pm GMT. That deadline seemed to work well for the last game and I think it's a fair enough split for those who wanted an earlier deadline and those who wanted a later one.

**Drops everything. Reads the outline of the game. Doesn't even read the rest of the Admin Thread. Sign up for WereWolf straight away.**

Hi Sixth! Glad to see you return to WW. I noticed someone had mentioned you'd be interested in joining the game after DW and I was hoping you'd get my PM in time. :)

Good news: I have managed to convince Formendacil to join. He hasn't chosen a role yet, so I'll have to remember to ask him about that.

But before I start the game, I do need to know if Mith and McCaber can confirm their participation. Also, if anyone else still wants to sign up they are welcome to up until I send out the roles, which will happen shortly before Night 1.

As for regards to the hunter, I think I like Mith's suggestion best:
I would have a hunter that if lynched takes their choice down regardless but if is the wolf kill choice only kills if their choice is a wolf. I think it was Roa who pointed out that it was illogical for a dying hunter to take out a non-wolf at night, however a lynched hunter might take any of the village down with them.
Using the logical hunter gives a good middle ground between the two extremes.

Okay, off the update the list...

[satansaloser2005]

*mutters slightly* Heh. Kidding, kidding. If nothing else, it'll give me all the more reason to want off work each day. ;)


Whoa....wait a tic that means the first day'll be on the fourth. Excellent! (No seriously. I don't have anything to do on Friday until the evening, as I generally have, ya know, no life. Perfect for werewolfing though. :))



Well, I was thinking I'd be one of those people who can't take a joke (not that we have any here) and are easily offended and pretty much a stiff-necked (but completely oblivious) slightly mean pain in the bum. But is that too much like Eomer?

[satansaloser2005]

Shoot. I was referencing his character choice. You know what I mean.

Sorry, Eomer. It's like 3:30, and I'm clumsy at my best. ;)




Anyway, if Eomer would rather I chose something a little farther away from his decision I'd be cool with that. I rather like the cross-fandom idea actually....I could lend much discussion to why the King's Cross scene at the end of Deathly Hallows was pretty much a complete rip from the whole "Oh Gandalf dies....just kidding!" thing. :p:rolleyes:

(Meh, you get the point. I'll think about it some more. Heaven knows I should be able to come up with something better than miscellaneous crossovers)

[Brinniel]

Oh, and I was thinking about maybe being a person who, essentially, is in the wrong fandom. For example, talking about Doctor Who (spoiler-free of course, for my fellow American Whovians) or....blah, I don't know.....anyway talking about fandoms other than Tolkien. It was just one of the ideas I've been tossing about. I'll let you know for sure before the game starts.
That's an interestsing idea. So what would you call that? Maybe....misguided fan?

Well, I was thinking I'd be one of those people who can't take a joke (not that we have any here) and are easily offended and pretty much a stiff-necked (but completely oblivious) slightly mean pain in the bum. But is that too much like Eomer?
Hmm...yeah, that might be slightly too close to his role. Unless you were an easily offended purist...

Btw, for those having trouble coming up with a role *coughKathcough* I recommend checking out other options in the links Ka provided. I read all the FlameWarrior roles today and some of them are really funny. :D

[Mithalwen]

Oh I can't resist though I shouldn't.... sinceI don't want to be dependent on Boro - I think I will try therapist or?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

It seems a bit similar to my character. He'll be without a sense of humour, and a trendy who has little knowledge of Tolkien. I'm looking forward to playing this. ;)

[THE Ka]

I read all the FlameWarrior roles today and some of them are really funny.

They're especially delicious after a heated WW game. I recommend it.


I think I will try therapist or?

The therapist is a good role. I was going to pick it, but I thought it was too close to some of the other roles people would chose later and because I'd ruin it being myself.
So, you should keep it.


Target I believe is one that we all can play in WW, eventually. Tireless Rebutter is always at home here though too.

Oh, and an apology for being confusing with my earlier reply. I had a job interview that day, for one that wouldn't be a complete waste of time, so I was a bit anxious and all over the place. The good thing is, I ended up with the job, and I can still play WW.

~ Ka

[Gwathagor]

This looks to be a fun game. I'm sorry I won't be around for it; I've never played with a cobbler before.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Bloody Angamandi. Formendaga is playing?!?!

Bring out the . . . I don't know, pitchforks?

We are, after all, sworn enemies. http://www.geocities.com/louis_martian/smilies/evil.gif (Sorta . . . )

Capers madly in the Canadian tongue*.

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*Yes, yes, I know. :p

[Lhunardawen]

*sneaks in*

Hahaha, congratulations, Brinn! :D

I'm sorry I can't be around to see the return of Formendacil to the Werewolfing world, but maybe it's better that way...beats me how. *shrugs*

[Mithalwen]

They're especially delicious after a heated WW game. I recommend it.




The therapist is a good role. I was going to pick it, but I thought it was too close to some of the other roles people would chose later and because I'd ruin it being myself.
So, you should keep it.

~ Ka


Oh I would be quite happy being an Archivist or any of various others .. so I am quite happy for you could take it ..or one of us could be Freudian and the other Jungian!!!

[Brinniel]

McCaber, can I remove the question mark from your name?

Also, Kath and Sally still need to decide on character roles. If you don't by the end of Night 1, I will choose them for you!

And of course, if there are any last stragglers that want to sign up you still have a few more hours..

[THE Ka]

or one of us could be Freudian and the other Jungian!!!


Then we'd become duelists.

Hmm, I guess I could mesh therapist with artful dodger. As in, anyone else trying to analyze my thoughts would be met with a complete change of subject and lost in another subject entirely.

Archivist could work pretty well with therapist too, come to think of it. You'd be a very evil therapist though, since no one could phase that they 'don't remember' what they said six pages ago and how it has anything to do with their current mental state. It would be like having a session with a therapist you can't slip up. Ouch.

Okay, I think we'd still butt heads. Awesome! Dueling therapists!
Or, work together some how. Hmmm.

Sorry if I'm making your job harder Brinn... :Merisu:

~ Ka

[Brinniel]

Just a note to everyone:

Night 1 starts in a little more than an hour.

I am running late to an appointment so I must leave shortly. Never fear, I'll be back in time to start the Night. But however, I ran out of time to send out the roles...so they won't be sent out until Night 1 begins. It shouldn't cause any problems, but just in case anyone wonders why they haven't received a PM...

[Nogrod]

I will be a bit quieter the first one or two Days - if I'm alive that is - as I got a fast-option to go and meet my father in the east of Finland. I will be there from Friday to Monday-Tuesday. There is a net connection there and I will most certainly play, but understandably I will not be lurking around all the time but meeting also my old friends.

Just for you to know... :rolleyes:


PS. I can be the Lacanian therapist trying to overcome both the Freudian and the Jungian one... :D

[Formendacil]

I'm sorry I can't be around to see the return of Formendacil to the Werewolfing world, but maybe it's better that way...beats me how. *shrugs*

Oh, come now, little sister... of everyone on this thread, this should come as the least surprise to you (well, other than Brinniel, but that goes without saying). I mean, I know that you've actually seen my summer itinerary, and know where I was this weekend past.

Anyway, with no absence of internet like last summer, school finally over (and good riddance!), and my continental wanderings abated... I have time for the first time in two years (although barely...) and in need of a motive to enjoy sitting at home in the evenings.

*officially shutting up on the admin thread... it is after game start, after all*

[Aganzir]

Do we go by real or the Downs time, which seems to be seven minutes off?

[Brinniel]

All the roles have been sent out! Everyone should have a PM from me in their inbox.

McCaber, I put you in the game assuming that the words "erasable marker" (versus pencil) means you are more likely in than out.

Do we go by real or the Downs time, which seems to be seven minutes off?
I'd rather go by real time, but unfortunately everyone's clocks are different. I think as long as the Downs time doesn't go any more off than 15 minutes we will follow the Downs clock. So I will try to post the deadline when the BD page reads 11pm sharp GMT. Just be aware that any votes after my post won't be counted.

Btw, the rules on the first post have been updated.

[satansaloser2005]

Sorry Brinn! My internet (well, the internet I use anyway....) had a major hiccup so I haven't really been on the last day or so.


I'll stick with being, as Emily and I would say, "in the wrong flipping fandom," aka making comments about every canon BUT Tolkien's. Sorry I didn't come up with something better, but hey. It's fitting and still entertaining.


And an announcement just in case. If I'm not here when I say I will be, it's because of the dodgy internet connection. If nothing else, I'll go back to parking lot internet, but I should be fine. Just letting you all know in advance should I suddenly get gagged by a lapse in the wireless. Thanks! *toddles off until day phase*

~~Sally the Insufferable~~

[The Sixth Wizard]

Due to a first aid course I will be doing, I will only be here for about seven hours in the middle of Day 1.

[Brinniel]

Just so everyone knows, Day 1 has begun.

Kath, you have not picked a character role so I will have to pick one for you. You shall be.......artiste (http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/artiste.htm) :D

[Kath]

Sorry for disappearing the last few days. I'm alarmingly busy right now so I thought it fair to warn that Day 1 I will be here but barely, and if Day 2 is Sunday then I actually might not be able to post at all. I may manage a quick vote, but that would most likely be it. That's worst case scenario though, depends on some timing issues.

Aaaanyway, artiste eh? Going to have to go write some poetry. :D

EDIT: Oh, should have mentioned, after Day 2 you've got me full time.

[Boromir88]

I've been trying to post since 2 pm but my computer at home is having internet connection issues. I'm at my sister's now, for the rest of the day and be able to get at least one post up after dinner.

[Brinniel]

The narration is now up.

Sorry for being so slow...one of my many bad habits is that I happen to be a slow writer (which is why I will now ask for the wolves and gifteds to submit their choices at least an hour before deadline). I'll try to do better next time... :o

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Sorry for my absence; we had a surprise family gathering for the 4th.

[The Sixth Wizard]

Why you collective scum! I have the time and motivation to post ONCE, and you all lynch me on those grounds?! :mad:

Oh well, no more Werewolfing for me for a while. :rolleyes:

[THE Ka]

I'm afraid I won't be around for a few hours during the second Day, and should make it back to hopefully catch up.

~ Ka

[Brinniel]

McCaber has sadly informed me that he will not be able to participate in this game after all. He will be modfired in toNight's narration.

[satansaloser2005]

Oh noes. :(

[THE Ka]

Awh, sorry to hear about McCabbie. I was really hoping for his in-character posts, but he did make toNight's narration worthy.
Here I was thinking he was going to turn into a McCobbler and pull a Gandalf Uncloaked and take out someone, but pyro-routine is awesome too. Everyone deserves a good death scene.
Hope you can play again sometime McCaber.

~ Ka

[Boromir88]

I'm still having connection issues, I'm having AT+T come out to fix my phone line. I won't be as active as I normally am this day, but will head out to Barnes and Noble (where they have wireless) and be around for a few hours.

[Eönwë]

My internet keeps on randomly switching on and off, but hopefully it won't affect me too much.

[Brinniel]

Narration is up!

[Brinniel]

I'm afraid I have some unfortunate news. Nerwen has informed me that due to a change of plans in RL, she has to drop out of the game. :( I don't see any reason to wait to reveal her role, so I'll just do it here....Nerwen was a hacker/werewolf.

Now when a werewolf is killed early in the game due to lynching or a hunt, the other teammates have to learn to carry on with one less. But in the case of a modfire (has a wolf even dropped out before...not that I can recall), I can't help but feel like perhaps the situation is a bit unfair to the remaining wolves, when it was simply bad luck on their side versus gameplay. Because if Nerwen didn't have to drop out, who knows how much longer she would've stayed alive...

I have spent most of the night scrambling my brain trying to think of what's best for all players. While setting up this game, I had, looking at the growing size of players, considered adding a fourth wolf (I think in Rikae's game there were 19 players and 4 wolves). But I quickly decided against it, thinking it'd be better to keep it at the traditional three. What I'm trying to get at is that the best option I can come up with is while I modfire Nerwolf, I could add a new hacker to the bunch...bringing the number back to three. Of course this would make the hackers and spammer happy...but what about the innocents? Would replacing Nerwen by turning an ordo make the game too much of a challenge? My goal is to make this WW game as balanced as possible; it's more fun for both sides that way.

So rather than having me decide completely on my own, I would like to hear everyone's opinion on the matter regardless of your role. Would it be more fair to add a new hacker, or leave it be with two remaining wolves? Please PM me your thoughts. Thanks.

[Brinniel]

Hi everyone-

Seven hours after I've made my announcement, I have only heard from a few players. In this late stage of the Night (4 hours til deadline), even if I do add a new wolf to the pack, it's not exactly nice to only give them a few hours to talk.

So this is what I'd like to do. I will extend Night 3 by a full 24 hours so that Day 3 will start tomorrow at 11pm GMT. This is a something I think will be fair for both sides of players and will make things a lot less stressful for me.

In the meantime, I really would like to hear from those who have not yet shared their thoughts regarding the situation (and there are a lot). I would like to come to a solid decision on the matter by 11pm GMT, but if not enough PM me, I will wait longer. So please PLEASE read my above post and PM me your thoughts as soon as possible.

[Brinniel]

Thanks to everyone who shared with me their thoughts. I appreciate it. :)

It was a strong majority and that majority stated that they would be fine if an extra wolf would be brought into the game. A few even said they would prefer it. And since I had once considered having four wolves in this game, I think the best decision is to do just that.

So toNight a new wolf will be chosen.

[satansaloser2005]

Quick FYI:

I won't be around at the beginning of the Day. Shouldn't be too long, but just so you all know. :)

[Aganzir]

My participation tomorrow will be limited - before the start of day 3 was postponed, I had promised to go to a friend's summer cottage. I will post and vote before I leave in the morning, but apart from that I will have no chance to post.

[Brinniel]

A couple minutes late on the narration, but in my defense, it was a long one...

My chatspeak isn't nearly as good as Nerwen's, and after my attempt I can't help but wonder how anyone manages to write in such a way. :rolleyes:

[Aganzir]

A couple minutes late on the narration, but in my defense, it was a long one...
And in your defense, it was a funny one. :D I really laughed at it.

[Kath]

Bah! I can't believe you kill me now that I'm finally able to actually play! My only consolation is that you clearly feel I am an awesome threat. What's that? It was only because I'd said absolutely nothing of any importance and so the kill left no trail? I refuse to believe it!

:rolleyes: As soon as I find out who you are, next game I'm coming after you with pitchforks. Just a friendly warning from your newest neighbourhood ghost.

*hopes Brinn doesn't mind the dead having a quick rant ... mentions being very impressed with her death narration in a hope for leniency :D*

[THE Ka]

“So it’s a deal then?” asked the larger hacker. “Your flesh for the hot Legolas poster?”

Just wanted to say, that is an amazing line Brinn.

After spending a whole day running around, waiting two hours to pee in a cup for a drug test, waiting for my driving abstract and a trip to the packed social security office all for one job, it really made my day. :p

~ Ka

[Eönwë]

Sorry for not being here until now. Because of the unexpected timing I couldn't be here earlier toDay (or today for that matter).

[THE Ka]

Sorry to be quiet today, but I'm currently starting a new job and I'm ending up spending most of my time processing paperwork so I can begin (I'm working in a place that handles a LOT of money and people, so, they want everything on me short of a microchip in my brain), so I'm afraid I won't be around later today or for the deadline.

Sorry to be a dead weight everyone. If it helps to keep the modfire balance on low, I'm perfectly fine with people voting for me. So, if you've ever wanted to kill Ka (I know you're jumping in your seat Agan...:Merisu:), this is your chance.
Or, if hackers are reading this, go ahead and kill me toNight if you can't think of anyone in particular. I don't mind, really.

Sorry once again, but life happens I guess. More importantly, work happens and I need moolah. :rolleyes:

It was lovely to play with all of you again, and I'm sorry if I've been a drag on the game. Hope I can return sometime soon once this job has settled down! I'll miss you guys.

~ Ka

[Mithalwen]

Flooding in the library meant that I had no lunchtime net access and it is still pouring and threatening " a severe weather event" so I don't want to be driving in the dark - I was marooned in a flood a couple of weeks again and was lucky not to lose my car, I definitely don't want to take the risk. Sorry

[Eönwë]

Flooding in the library meant that I had no lunchtime net access and it is still pouring and threatening " a severe weather event" so I don't want to be driving in the dark - I was marooned in a flood a couple of weeks again and was lucky not to lose my car, I definitely don't want to take the risk. Sorry

I feel sorry for you. In this part of the country, we only had heavy rain, but nothing more.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Where are you situated, Eonwe? We too have had ridiculous amounts of rain, just over the North Sea, Mith. It's either thunderstorms or boiling heat this far south.

I also wanted to point out that I won't be able to post for at least a couple of minutes, as I am going to get a drink and a new CD.

Seriously people, we don't need to know your whereabouts all day every day. BDers often know that other BDers sometimes have lives. ;)

[Brinniel]

Blah, blah, blah... Narration is up.

hopes Brinn doesn't mind the dead having a quick rant
Nah, I don't mind a rant as long as it's a short one. Sometimes a brief ranting is needed. There were many times in the past I have been tempted to do so. And I believe I actually did when I got lynched in my first game ever. :rolleyes:

And thanks everyone for all the compliments on the narrations so far. As someone who tends to be over-critical of her own work, I do appreciate them. :)

[satansaloser2005]

Blah, blah, blah... Narration is up.


Nah, I don't mind a rant as long as it's a short one. Sometimes a brief ranting is needed. There were many times in the past I have been tempted to do so. And I believe I actually did when I got lynched in my first game ever. :rolleyes:

And thanks everyone for all the compliments on the narrations so far. As someone who tends to be over-critical of her own work, I do appreciate them. :)

Have another. That was....well, nothing short of hysterical, to say the least. Kudos again, Miss Brinn! *wanders off to see if there's any leftover pyrotechnic devices to play with*

[Brinniel]

The narration is finally up!

Btw, the whole dice roll thing is how it actually happened in RL. I've never been good at flipping coins... :rolleyes:

[Brinniel]

Hmm...it seems Nogrod has pointed out an important mistake to me.

After originally forgetting to remove Kath from the Living list, I'm still making the same error. Probably because though I did edit the mistake the first time on my post, it's from my Word document I've been copying and pasting the list...and I guess I never did fix the mistake there. :o

So my apologies to everyone for any confusion this may have caused. I will be sure to go back through my narrations on both the forum and Word so that this mistake won't happen again. Kath will no longer be stuck in limbo. :rolleyes:

[Kath]

After originally forgetting to remove Kath from the Living list, I'm still making the same error.
It's no error really, it's because she loves me too much. Can't bear to see me gone. :p

[Mithalwen]

No one picked up on my Glorfindel quip then?

[Shastanis Althreduin]

If I disappear suddenly, it's due to some wicked thunderstorms we're having in my area. Thanks! :)

[Brinniel]

It's no error really, it's because she loves me too much. Can't bear to see me gone.
It's true, it's true. ;)

No one picked up on my Glorfindel quip then?
I think I noticed that....but I thought it was a reference to the first time I made the mistake. I hadn't realised I was repeating it. :rolleyes:

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On a more serious note, I regret to inform that Ka has asked me to pull her from the game. It's unfortunate, but RL happens. :(

Her death will be included in the narration, which will be posted shortly.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

It's true, it's true.


I think I noticed that....but I thought it was a reference to the first time I made the mistake. I hadn't realised I was repeating it. :rolleyes:

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On a more serious note, I regret to inform that Ka has asked me to pull her from the game. It's unfortunate, but RL happens. :(

Her death will be included in the narration, which will be posted shortly.


That's three now.... There have been more RL-kills than Hacker kills! :(

[Brinniel]

The narration is up.

And sorry for taking even longer than normal...I got a phonecall from my sister and I hadn't talked to her for awhile. Hope I didn't keep you guys too much on your toes. ;)

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Whoopee. Post-mortem vindication.

[Formendacil]

Given that it never came up (at least to my recollection) during my visit, how on earth did you know, Brinn, that I' was never very good and hide 'n seek?

[satansaloser2005]

May I allow myself a chuckle? Please.... *giggles* Hide and seek....hehe I can see Form trying to hide behind some little sapling about half his size with his head popping out over the branches. *giggles again*

Wait. A ghost, she speaks! Not possible! Never fear, it's only a passing sensation, loves. Have a nice nap and a cup of tea and it'll be all better.

*fades back into the shadows*

[Brinniel]

Given that it never came up (at least to my recollection) during my visit, how on earth did you know, Brinn, that I' was never very good and hide 'n seek?

I don't know....I guess I'm just really good at reading people. :p ;)

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Narration's up, btw.

[Rikae]

Since people have been discussing my "detached" attitude in this game, I thought I'd better explain. I just started a new job, and am going through long training sessions. Even when I'm home, I don't have a whole lot of energy left for WW - and I'm afraid that will be the case tomorrow, too. I'll do what I can.

[Brinniel]

The narration is now up.

Geez...part of me is glad this game's almost over. I'm running out of ways to kill people. :p

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

The narration is now up.

Geez...part of me is glad this game's almost over. I'm running out of ways to kill people. :p (Brinniel)Boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew . . . :D

[Mithalwen]

The narration is now up.

Geez...part of me is glad this game's almost over. I'm running out of ways to kill people. :p

Ah yes ... it gets hard - I remember my first WW game asking my boss for a weird way to kill someone - and he wasn't fazed at all... which was perhaps more disturbing than my somewhat random question....

[Eönwë]

Boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew . . . :D

Formentaters, eh? Hmmm... (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr_01rYKQLg)

[Mithalwen]

http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=563612&postcount=52

[satansaloser2005]

That link doesn't work. I think the thread is just a mith.



(sorry, couldn't resist. never fear, the link's fine of course)