Hurt & Heal V: Ainur (non-Valar)

[the phantom]

RULES

From 20 to 7 - each player has 3 votes: 2 hurts and 1 heal. Double hurts are allowed.

From 6 to 4 - each player has 3 votes: 2 hurts and 1 heal. Double hurts ar not allowed: a player has to hurt 2 different characters and heal one, or he may use only 1 hurt and 1 heal.

When but 3 characters are left each player has either a hurt or a heal.

Wait for at least four posters to vote prior to you voting again.

Master Mormegil asked that I go ahead and start the thread, so here it is. Let's start the nominations. :)

I submit-

Melian
Eonwe
Tilion
Gothmog

[Tuor in Gondolin]

How about Ungoliant (if she's a maia), Durin's Bane, and Osse ?

[Thinlómien]

Arien and Uinen ;)

[Lalaith]

Second Tilion and Arien (Luminos!)
nominate Alatar and Aiwendil (Downer Istari power!)

[Thinlómien]

Second Melian, Durin's bane, Ossë, Alatar and Aiwendil,
nominate Pallando (and Tom and Goldberry if they count ;)).

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Second Pallando and Uinen...

[Tuor in Gondolin]

And second Eonwe. How can you not have the
Herald of Manwe in such a contest?

[Gordis]

Annatar anyone?;)

[the phantom]

I submit Curunir, and I second Uinen and Sauron.

Approved-

Aiwendil
Alatar
Arien
Durin's Bane
Eonwe
Melian
Osse
Pallando
Sauron
Tilion
Uinen


Submitted, but not seconded yet-

Curunir
Gothmog
Ungolient


EDIT: updated, oops

[Thinlómien]

Phantom, you missed Legate's post where he seconded Pallando (and Uinen). ;)

[Aganzir]

Ooh Curunír seconded.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Ooh Curunír seconded.

I was thinking whether to second him or not, because once he's there, a) he's going to be ridiculously much supported (by me at least), b) if people hurt him, I am going to be sad :(

But whatever :)

[Thinlómien]

If we have the hyper-favourites Saruman and Sauron, I think we should have Gandalf too, just to be fair.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

If we have the hyper-favourites Saruman and Sauron, I think we should have Gandalf too, just to be fair.

That's what I thought too: especially Sauron and Gandalf are just everywhere and everybody is voting them. Shouldn't we then just keep them out of that? Just so to prevent the all too obvious guys from winning again, which certainly would be quite boring.

[Aganzir]

Don't worry Legate - we have Nog. ;)

[Lalaith]

I'm sorry people, I'm not convinced AT all that Ungoliant is of the Maiar. I also think we should keep Gandalf, Saruman and Sauron out of this.

[Thinlómien]

I actually agree with Lalaith here. Those three have been in enough competitions before...

[the phantom]

If either Gandalf or Sauron had actually won a contest, I would say yes, keep them out.

But seeing as we're eventually going to have a Tournament of Champions (the people on the list will be previous winners) it seems a shame not to include characters and deny them the chance to win.

Gandalf and Sauron won't be able to be in the Elf, Man, Dwarf, Evil Minion, Female, weapons/armor, or Valar contest, so I don't think it'd be fair to keep them out of this contest that they actually qualify for.

And Ungolient is fine because this isn't a Maia contest. It's open to all the Ainur who were not among the Valar.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Well, phanston, I guess Lalaith's point might as well have been that Ungoliant is not Ainu at all. But I am fine with considering her as an Ainu, or even as a Maia.

But Gandalf and Sauron are too much, in my opinion. Curumo is still yet okay, he is a bit on the edge, but I think there might be some considerably strong clique against him. But these two guys... no way. Haven't they been in the first one, or something like that?

[Lalaith]

That's the thing. I don't think she's Ainu, she's something Other. The darkness and chaos and all that.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

See? I said that ;)

Anyway, one thing to add to this Gandalf and Sauron - they could be in the contest "the biggest heroes" or something. Or "the most typical heroes". Or "the biggest bosses". Along with Morgoth and a some others (we might classify. Fëanor or Galadriel come to my mind).

[Gordis]

I think "the biggest bosses" is a good idea for the future game - so we can indeed leave Gandy, Sau and Saruman out of this one.

Then such nice Maiar as Eonwe or Uinen would get a fair chance. :)

[the phantom]

Since we'll probably have a "monsters" and/or "other" H & H game in the future, it might make sense to leave Ungolient off this one. Though she could easily be explained as an Ainu in the Silmarillion and in other writings, in some earlier stuff she was something else and even later she is not defined specifically.

So, yeah, we can leave her off if you don't want to see her now.

As far as purposefully excluding "popular" characters, thus far we certainly haven't been doing that to extreme measures. In the previous rounds we've included Turin, Hurin, The Witch King, Sauron, Saruman, Luthien, Ulmo, Fingon, Turgon, Finrod, Aragorn, Fingolfin, Eowyn, Gimli, Frodo, Sam, Feanor, and Glorfindel... and guess what? None of them won.

Now, I seem to recall Melkor being spoken against in one of the previous rounds because of his status, but then surely we'll allow him to compete when it's his time, right? (The Valar round most likely.)

Then what about a Maia this round? This is their time, isn't it? They won't be in the next eight or so games for sure. So do we deny popular characters the chance to win their division just because we think they're too likely to win, despite the fact that half of us would no doubt try and keep them from winning anyway?

Meh, you people decide. If we can fill the list up to 20 without them and you want to see them left off, I'm cool with it.

Approved-

Aiwendil
Alatar
Arien
Durin's Bane
Eonwe
Melian
Osse
Pallando
Tilion
Uinen


Being discussed-

Curunir
Gothmog
Olorin
Sauron
Ungolient

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Then what about a Maia this round? This is their time, isn't it? They won't be in the next eight or so games for sure. So do we deny popular characters the chance to win their division just because we think they're too likely to win, despite the fact that half of us would no doubt try and keep them from winning anyway?

Well, but that is actually also half of the point. That's why I think those guys should have their own cathegory. Because basically, against the "normal" characters, in fact everybody would wish them to win - so that's one reason why not allow them - and at the same time, some people would not wish them to win just based on principle: and that basically puts them in a completely different game, so to say. So I am against introducing them here.

[Thinlómien]

I second Gothmog. He's surely a maia, and even though he's not particularily interesting, we may very well have him.

Hmm... wasn't there some speculation about Thorondor actually being a maia too? he'd be a nice addition in that case. And what about Ilmarë, Varda's handmaid?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hmm... wasn't there some speculation about Thorondor actually being a maia too? he'd be a nice addition in that case. And what about Ilmarë, Varda's handmaid?

Ha, interesting - Ilmarë, one would completely forget about her... and Thorondor could be, though perhaps we should save him for some "animal" competition or something, if there will be one?

[Eönwë]

I quite like the look of this list...:p

I second Gothmog.

Also, I don't think we should include Ungoliant, because I don't think that she's an Ainu. And if we include her, then we'll have to include Tom Bombadil and possibly Goldberry (I, for one, would definately push for them), and that would just make things more complicated.

I think we should just go with "fully-certified" Maiar.


Ha, interesting - Ilmarë, one would completely forget about her... and Thorondor could be, though perhaps we should save him for some "animal" competition or something, if there will be one?

We could do that. We could make one called "sentient animals" or such...

[Tuor in Gondolin]

If Thorondor is considered a maia then I'll
second him. But his case (and the great eagles in
general) is one of the most ambiguous (which is
saying something for Tollers :D ) of classifications
in Ea. I lean slightly toward his being a maia, if
Melian could have a child, why not Thorondor? But...

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

If Thorondor is considered a maia then I'll
second him. But his case (and the great eagles in
general) is one of the most ambiguous (which is
saying something for Tollers :D ) of classifications
in Ea. I lean slightly toward his being a maia, if
Melian could have a child, why not Thorondor? But...

Hmm. But I am not really sure. I guess it would be better to keep them out. Thorondor is probably rather "a spirit from elsewhere", but from where and what, nobody knows. One would say, it is something like a Maia, if not really a Maia, but still - it's a bit like with the Ents - and they certainly were not Ainur, yet were something else than most of the animals or Elves, Men, Dwarves etc. I guess we should leave Thorondor out: otherwise we are partially letting it get close to inviting Dragons into the bunch. So let us just leave them for another time.

Same goes for Ungoliant&co. - I'd side with Eönwë here.

[the phantom]

We still need a few more.


Aiwendil
Alatar
Arien
Durin's Bane
Eonwe
Gothmog
Ilmare
Melian
Osse
Pallando
Tilion
Uinen

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Salmar

Salmar made the Ulumúri for his lord Ulmo, the great conches which produce the music of the sea.

And how about the (somewhat less than) dynamic duo
The Blue Wizards ?

[Mnemosyne]

Salmar's seconded.

[Gordis]

And how about the (somewhat less than) dynamic duo
The Blue Wizards ?

They are there already :Alatar and Pallando

Maybe we should take them as one item, though? ;)

[mormegil]

It may be that we just need to throw any and all that fit in this narrow category :)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Salmar's seconded.

Ah, yes! Once again somebody almost forgotten, yet so important... great, I like this :)

They are there already :Alatar and Pallando

Maybe we should take them as one item, though? ;)

Certainly not! That's nonsense. I want to have them there separately!

[Gordis]

Ah, yes!
Certainly not! That's nonsense. I want to have them there separately!

Oh yea! Charming Pallando is so much nicer, wiser and braver than this old geezer Alatar :D:eek:

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Oh yea! Charming Pallando is so much nicer, wiser and braver than this old geezer Alatar :D:eek:

But Alatar is definitely a hunter, which is cool, especially when he is an old geezer :)

[Eönwë]

Oh yea! Charming Pallando is so much nicer, wiser and braver than this old geezer Alatar :D:eek:

I always thought it was the other way around :p

edit: I somehow managed to get an x-post there.

[Gordis]

How about stop chattering and start voting?;)

[the phantom]

How about stop chattering and start voting?
It would be great to start voting, but we can't do that until we have a full list. We only have 13 at this point. How are we going to fill the list, people?


Aiwendil
Alatar
Arien
Durin's Bane
Eonwe
Gothmog
Ilmare
Melian
Osse
Pallando
Salmar
Tilion
Uinen

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

It would be great to start voting, but we can't do that until we have a full list. We only have 13 at this point. How are we going to fill the list, people?

And do we really need twenty? Because really, I doubt you can find that many Maiar...

[Thinlómien]

Yes, you'd have to take Thorondor, Ungoliant, Tom, Goldberry, Gandalf, Saruman and Sauron... which would be a crime/shame, depending on the case. ;)

[Gordis]

It would be great to start voting, but we can't do that until we have a full list. We only have 13 at this point. How are we going to fill the list, people?

We don't need 20, IMO! I take 20 as a maximum number for a game.

Because indeed, how would you get a list of 20 Valar? :D - No way, preciousss...


So, let us start voting?;)


Hurt Ilmare, Hurt Salmar, heal Uinen

Aiwendil (10)
Alatar (10)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (10)
Eonwe (10)
Gothmog (10)
Ilmare (9)
Melian (10)
Osse (10)
Pallando (10)
Salmar (9)
Tilion (10)
Uinen (11)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hurt Ilmare, Hurt Salmar
How cowardish. Everybody could do that.


Double hurt Eonwë, heal Pallando.

Aiwendil (10)
Alatar (10)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (10)
Eonwe (9)
Gothmog (10)
Ilmare (9)
Melian (10)
Osse (10)
Pallando (11)
Salmar (9)
Tilion (10)
Uinen (11)

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Double hurt Alatar heal Osse

Aiwendil (10)
Alatar (8)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (10)
Eonwe (9)
Gothmog (10)
Ilmare (9)
Melian (10)
Osse (11)
Pallando (11)
Salmar (9)
Tilion (10)
Uinen (11)

[wilwarin538]

Double hurt Gothmog heal Arien

Aiwendil (10)
Alatar (8)
Arien (11)
Durin's Bane (10)
Eonwe (9)
Gothmog (8)
Ilmare (9)
Melian (10)
Osse (11)
Pallando (11)
Salmar (9)
Tilion (10)
Uinen (11)

[mormegil]

Double Hurt Pallando Heal Tilion

Aiwendil (10)
Alatar (8)
Arien (11)
Durin's Bane (10)
Eonwe (9)
Gothmog (8)
Ilmare (9)
Melian (10)
Osse (11)
Pallando (9)
Salmar (9)
Tilion (11)
Uinen (11)

[Gordis]

Double hurt Ilmare Heal Gothy

Aiwendil (10)
Alatar (8)
Arien (11)
Durin's Bane (10)
Eonwe (9)
Gothmog (9)
Ilmare (7)
Melian (10)
Osse (11)
Pallando (9)
Salmar (9)
Tilion (11)
Uinen (11)

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Hurt Tilion Hurt Arien Heal Ilmare

Aiwendil (10)
Alatar (8)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (10)
Eonwe (9)
Gothmog (9)
Ilmare (8)
Melian (10)
Osse (11)
Pallando (9)
Salmar (9)
Tilion (10)
Uinen (11)

[Lalaith]

Heal Eonwe, hurt Durin's Bane, hurt Osse.

Aiwendil (10)
Alatar (8)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (9)
Eonwe (10)
Gothmog (9)
Ilmare (8)
Melian (10)
Osse (10)
Pallando (9)
Salmar (9)
Tilion (10)
Uinen (11)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Double hurt Eonwe, heal Pallando

Aiwendil (10)
Alatar (8)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (9)
Eonwe (8)
Gothmog (9)
Ilmare (8)
Melian (10)
Osse (10)
Pallando (10)
Salmar (9)
Tilion (10)
Uinen (11)

[Mnemosyne]

Double-hurt Tilion (the stalker!); heal Arien.

Aiwendil (10)
Alatar (8)
Arien (11)
Durin's Bane (9)
Eonwe (8)
Gothmog (9)
Ilmare (8)
Melian (10)
Osse (10)
Pallando (10)
Salmar (9)
Tilion (8)
Uinen (11)

[Thinlómien]

Hurt Gothmog, hurt Ilmarë, heal Alatar

Aiwendil (10)
Alatar (9)
Arien (11)
Durin's Bane (9)
Eonwe (8)
Gothmog (8)
Ilmare (7)
Melian (10)
Osse (10)
Pallando (10)
Salmar (9)
Tilion (8)
Uinen (11)

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Durin's Bane Hurt Arien Hurt Uinen

Aiwendil (10)
Alatar (9)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (10)
Eonwe (8)
Gothmog (8)
Ilmare (7)
Melian (10)
Osse (10)
Pallando (10)
Salmar (9)
Tilion (8)
Uinen (10)

[Gordis]

Double Hurt Arien Heal Uinen

Aiwendil (10)
Alatar (9)
Arien (8)
Durin's Bane (10)
Eonwe (8)
Gothmog (8)
Ilmare (7)
Melian (10)
Osse (10)
Pallando (10)
Salmar (9)
Tilion (8)
Uinen (11)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Double hurt Eonwe, heal Alatar

Aiwendil (10)
Alatar (10)
Arien (8)
Durin's Bane (10)
Eonwe (6)
Gothmog (8)
Ilmare (7)
Melian (10)
Osse (10)
Pallando (10)
Salmar (9)
Tilion (8)
Uinen (11)

[wilwarin538]

Double hurt Ilmare, heal Arien

Aiwendil (10)
Alatar (10)
Arien (9)
Durin's Bane (10)
Eonwe (6)
Gothmog (8)
Ilmare (5)
Melian (10)
Osse (10)
Pallando (10)
Salmar (9)
Tilion (8)
Uinen (11)

[Thinlómien]

Hurt Pallando, hurt Gorthmog, heal Arien

Aiwendil (10)
Alatar (10)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (10)
Eonwe (6)
Gothmog (7)
Ilmare (5)
Melian (10)
Osse (10)
Pallando (9)
Salmar (9)
Tilion (8)
Uinen (11)

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Hurt Uinen Hurt Aiwendil Heal Ilmare

Aiwendil (9)
Alatar (10)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (10)
Eonwe (6)
Gothmog (7)
Ilmare (6)
Melian (10)
Osse (10)
Pallando (9)
Salmar (9)
Tilion (8)
Uinen (10)

[Gordis]

Double hurt Ilmare, Heal Gothmog

Aiwendil (9)
Alatar (10)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (10)
Eonwe (6)
Gothmog (8)
Ilmare (4)
Melian (10)
Osse (10)
Pallando (9)
Salmar (9)
Tilion (8)
Uinen (10)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Double hurt Eonwe, heal Salmar

Aiwendil (9)
Alatar (10)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (10)
Eonwe (4)
Gothmog (8)
Ilmare (4)
Melian (10)
Osse (10)
Pallando (9)
Salmar (10)
Tilion (8)
Uinen (10)

[Eönwë]

Hurt Ilmarë and Durin's Bane, Heal Eönwë

Aiwendil (9)
Alatar (10)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (9)
Eönwë (5)
Gothmog (8)
Ilmarë (3)
Melian (10)
Ossë (10)
Pallando (9)
Salmar (10)
Tilion (8)
Uinen (10)



By the way doesn't: Salmar=Ossë? I seem to remember this from BoLT 1, but don't have it.

[Thinlómien]

Hurt Pallando, hurt Gothmog, heal Aiwendil

Aiwendil (10)
Alatar (10)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (9)
Eönwë (5)
Gothmog (7)
Ilmarë (3)
Melian (10)
Ossë (10)
Pallando (8)
Salmar (10)
Tilion (8)
Uinen (10)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

By the way doesn't: Salmar=Ossë? I seem to remember this from BoLT 1, but don't have it.

No, in the Silm they are named as two different entities.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Ilmare Hurt Eonwe Hurt Aiwendil

Aiwendil (9)
Alatar (10)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (9)
Eönwë (4)
Gothmog (7)
Ilmarë (4)
Melian (10)
Ossë (10)
Pallando (8)
Salmar (10)
Tilion (8)
Uinen (10)

[Gordis]

Double hurt Ilmare Heal Gothmog the Great Barlog

Aiwendil (9)
Alatar (10)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (9)
Eönwë (4)
Gothmog (8)
Ilmarë (2)
Melian (10)
Ossë (10)
Pallando (8)
Salmar (10)
Tilion (8)
Uinen (10)

[Eönwë]

Double hurt Durin's Bane, Heal Eönwë.

Aiwendil (9)
Alatar (10)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (7)
Eönwë (5)
Gothmog (8)
Ilmarë (2)
Melian (10)
Ossë (10)
Pallando (8)
Salmar (10)
Tilion (8)
Uinen (10)



Yes, Legate. Sorry about that bit of confusion, people.
By the way, on that note I searched "Salmar Osse" on google to see if there was anything in what I said, and this thread is the 8th result.

[mormegil]

Double hurt Ilmare and Heal Melian

Aiwendil (9)
Alatar (10)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (7)
Eönwë (5)
Gothmog (8)
Melian (11)
Ossë (10)
Pallando (8)
Salmar (10)
Tilion (8)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by Mormegil

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Double hurt Eönwë (sorry Eönwë :) ), heal Pallando.

Aiwendil (9)
Alatar (10)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (7)
Eönwë (3)
Gothmog (8)
Melian (11)
Ossë (10)
Pallando (9)
Salmar (10)
Tilion (8)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by Mormegil

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Double Hurt Melian Heal Tilion

Aiwendil (9)
Alatar (10)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (7)
Eönwë (3)
Gothmog (8)
Melian (9)
Ossë (10)
Pallando (9)
Salmar (10)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by Mormegil

[Nogrod]

Doublehurt Ossë, heal Eönwë

Aiwendil (9)
Alatar (10)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (7)
Eönwë (4)
Gothmog (8)
Melian (9)
Ossë (8)
Pallando (9)
Salmar (10)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by Mormegil

[Gordis]

Doublehurt Salmar, heal Gothmog

Aiwendil (9)
Alatar (10)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (7)
Eönwë (4)
Gothmog (9)
Melian (9)
Ossë (8)
Pallando (9)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by Mormegil

[Eönwë]

Hurt Osse and Aiwendil, Heal Eonwe

Aiwendil (8)
Alatar (10)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (7)
Eönwë (5)
Gothmog (9)
Melian (9)
Ossë (7)
Pallando (9)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by Mormegil

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Double hurt Eönwë, heal Aiwendil

Aiwendil (9)
Alatar (10)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (7)
Eönwë (3)
Gothmog (9)
Melian (9)
Ossë (7)
Pallando (9)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by Mormegil

[mormegil]

Double hurt Uinen Heal Melian

Aiwendil (9)
Alatar (10)
Arien (10)
Durin's Bane (7)
Eönwë (3)
Gothmog (9)
Melian (10)
Ossë (7)
Pallando (9)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (8)

Dead
Ilmarë by Mormegil

[Aganzir]

Hurt Alatar & Pallando, heal Arien.

Aiwendil (9)
Alatar (9)
Arien (11)
Durin's Bane (7)
Eönwë (3)
Gothmog (9)
Melian (10)
Ossë (7)
Pallando (8)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (8)

Dead
Ilmarë by Mormegil

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Double Hurt Aiwendil Heal Eonwe

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (9)
Arien (11)
Durin's Bane (7)
Eönwë (4)
Gothmog (9)
Melian (10)
Ossë (7)
Pallando (8)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (8)

Dead
Ilmarë by Mormegil

[Thinlómien]

Heal Uinen, hurt Pallando and Gothmog

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (9)
Arien (11)
Durin's Bane (7)
Eönwë (4)
Gothmog (8)
Melian (10)
Ossë (7)
Pallando (7)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by Mormegil

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Double hurt Eönwë, heal Pallando

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (9)
Arien (11)
Durin's Bane (7)
Eönwë (2)
Gothmog (8)
Melian (10)
Ossë (7)
Pallando (8)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by Mormegil

[mormegil]

Kill Eönwë heal Osse

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (9)
Arien (11)
Durin's Bane (7)
Gothmog (8)
Melian (10)
Ossë (8)
Pallando (8)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by Mormegil
Eönwë by Mormegil

[wilwarin538]

Double hurt Salmar heal Arien

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (9)
Arien (12)
Durin's Bane (7)
Gothmog (8)
Melian (10)
Ossë (8)
Pallando (8)
Salmar (6)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by Mormegil
Eönwë by Mormegil

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Double Hurt Osse Heal Salmar

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (9)
Arien (12)
Durin's Bane (7)
Gothmog (8)
Melian (10)
Ossë (6)
Pallando (8)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by Mormegil
Eönwë by Mormegil

[Thinlómien]

Double hurt Gothmog, heal Aiwendil

Aiwendil (8)
Alatar (9)
Arien (12)
Durin's Bane (7)
Gothmog (6)
Melian (10)
Ossë (6)
Pallando (8)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by Mormegil
Eönwë by Mormegil

[Eönwë]

Double hurt Durin's Bane, heal Gothmog

Aiwendil (8)
Alatar (9)
Arien (12)
Durin's Bane (5)
Gothmog (7)
Melian (10)
Ossë (6)
Pallando (8)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by Blacksword
Eönwë by Blacksword

[mormegil]

Heal Durin's Bane hurt Arien and Uinen

Aiwendil (8)
Alatar (9)
Arien (11)
Durin's Bane (6)
Gothmog (7)
Melian (10)
Ossë (6)
Pallando (8)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (8)

Dead
Ilmarë by Blacksword
Eönwë by Blacksword

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Double hurt Arien, heal Salmar

Aiwendil (8)
Alatar (9)
Arien (9)
Durin's Bane (6)
Gothmog (7)
Melian (10)
Ossë (6)
Pallando (8)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (8)

Dead
Ilmarë by Blacksword
Eönwë by Blacksword

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Double Hurt Durin's Bane Heal Uinen

Aiwendil (8)
Alatar (9)
Arien (9)
Durin's Bane (4)
Gothmog (7)
Melian (10)
Ossë (6)
Pallando (8)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by Blacksword
Eönwë by Blacksword

[Lalaith]

Doublehurt Gothmog heal Uinen

Aiwendil (8)
Alatar (9)
Arien (9)
Durin's Bane (4)
Gothmog (5)
Melian (10)
Ossë (6)
Pallando (8)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by Blacksword
Eönwë by Blacksword

[Gordis]

Doublehurt Salmar heal DB

Aiwendil (8)
Alatar (9)
Arien (9)
Durin's Bane (5)
Gothmog (5)
Melian (10)
Ossë (6)
Pallando (8)
Salmar (6)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by Blacksword
Eönwë by Blacksword

[mormegil]

Heal Durin's Bane Double Hurt Aiwendil

Aiwendil (6)
Alatar (9)
Arien (9)
Durin's Bane (6)
Gothmog (5)
Melian (10)
Ossë (6)
Pallando (8)
Salmar (6)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by Blacksword
Eönwë by Blacksword

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Double hurt Arien, heal Aiwendil

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (9)
Arien (7)
Durin's Bane (6)
Gothmog (5)
Melian (10)
Ossë (6)
Pallando (8)
Salmar (6)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by Blacksword
Eönwë by Blacksword

[Aganzir]

Hurt Alatar & Pallando, heal Arien.

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (8)
Arien (8)
Durin's Bane (6)
Gothmog (5)
Melian (10)
Ossë (6)
Pallando (7)
Salmar (6)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Hurt Durin's Bane Hurt Gothmog Heal Salmar

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (8)
Arien (8)
Durin's Bane (5)
Gothmog (4)
Melian (10)
Ossë (6)
Pallando (7)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (9)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil

[Gordis]

Double hurt Tilion, heal Gothmog

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (8)
Arien (8)
Durin's Bane (5)
Gothmog (5)
Melian (10)
Ossë (6)
Pallando (7)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (7)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil

[mormegil]

Double hurt Aiwendil Heal Melian

Aiwendil (5)
Alatar (8)
Arien (8)
Durin's Bane (5)
Gothmog (5)
Melian (11)
Ossë (6)
Pallando (7)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (7)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil

[Eönwë]

Hurt Aiwendil and Arien heal Gothmog

Aiwendil (4)
Alatar (8)
Arien (7)
Durin's Bane (5)
Gothmog (6)
Melian (11)
Ossë (6)
Pallando (7)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (7)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil

[Thinlómien]

Heal Aiwendil, double hurt Gothmog

Aiwendil (6)
Alatar (8)
Arien (8)
Durin's Bane (5)
Gothmog (3)
Melian (11)
Ossë (6)
Pallando (7)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (7)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Double hurt Arien, heal Aiwendil

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (8)
Arien (6)
Durin's Bane (5)
Gothmog (3)
Melian (11)
Ossë (6)
Pallando (7)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (7)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm&gil
Eönwë by morm&gil

[wilwarin538]

hurt Gothmog hurt Osse, heal Pallando

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (8)
Arien (6)
Durin's Bane (5)
Gothmog (2)
Melian (11)
Ossë (5)
Pallando (8)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (7)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm&gil
Eönwë by morm&gil

[Lalaith]

Kill Gothmog. Heal Durin's Bane.
Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (8)
Arien (6)
Durin's Bane (6)
Melian (11)
Ossë (5)
Pallando (8)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (7)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm&gil (Like the sound of this one!)
Eönwë by morm&gil
Gothmog by Lalaith (that's not a particularly alluring scent, is it Mith?)

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Osse Double Hurt Alatar

Alatar (6)
Arien (6)
Durin's Bane (6)
Melian (11)
Ossë (6)
Pallando (8)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (7)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm&gil (Like the sound of this one!)
Eönwë by morm&gil
Gothmog by Lalaith (that's not a particularly alluring scent, is it Mith?)
__________________

[Thinlómien]

Double hurt Pallando, heal Arien

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (6)
Arien (7)
Durin's Bane (6)
Melian (11)
Ossë (6)
Pallando (6)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (7)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith

[Eönwë]

Hurt Melian and Pallando, heal Salmar

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (6)
Arien (7)
Durin's Bane (6)
Melian (10)
Ossë (6)
Pallando (5)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (7)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith

[Gordis]

Hurt Tilion and Arien, heal DB

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (6)
Arien (6)
Durin's Bane (7)
Melian (10)
Ossë (6)
Pallando (5)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (6)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith

[Nogrod]

Doublehurt Ossë, heal Durin's Bane

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (6)
Arien (6)
Durin's Bane (8)
Melian (10)
Ossë (4)
Pallando (5)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (6)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith

[wilwarin538]

Doublehurt Salmar, heal Melian

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (6)
Arien (6)
Durin's Bane (8)
Melian (11)
Ossë (4)
Pallando (5)
Salmar (6)
Tilion (6)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Osse Hurt Alatar Hurt Arien

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (5)
Arien (5)
Durin's Bane (8)
Melian (11)
Ossë (5)
Pallando (5)
Salmar (6)
Tilion (6)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Double hurt Arien, heal Pallando

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (5)
Arien (3)
Durin's Bane (8)
Melian (11)
Ossë (5)
Pallando (6)
Salmar (6)
Tilion (6)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith

edit: ha, just x-ed with Tuor... fixed!

[Eönwë]

Double hurt Melian, heal Salmar

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (5)
Arien (3)
Durin's Bane (8)
Melian (9)
Ossë (5)
Pallando (6)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (6)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith

[Nogrod]

Doubolehurt Ossë, heal Melian.

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (5)
Arien (3)
Durin's Bane (8)
Melian (10)
Ossë (3)
Pallando (6)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (6)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith

[Thinlómien]

Double hurt Pallando, heal Arien

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (5)
Arien (4)
Durin's Bane (8)
Melian (10)
Ossë (3)
Pallando (4)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (6)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Osse Double Hurt Durin's Bane

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (5)
Arien (4)
Durin's Bane (6)
Melian (10)
Ossë (4)
Pallando (4)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (6)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith

[wilwarin538]

Double hurt Alatar, heal Melian

Aiwendil (7)
Alatar (3)
Arien (4)
Durin's Bane (6)
Melian (11)
Ossë (4)
Pallando (4)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (6)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith

[mormegil]

Double hurt Aiwendil Heal Alatar

Aiwendil (5)
Alatar (4)
Arien (4)
Durin's Bane (6)
Melian (11)
Ossë (4)
Pallando (4)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (6)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith

[Gordis]

Double hurt Tilion, Heal Uinen

Aiwendil (5)
Alatar (4)
Arien (4)
Durin's Bane (6)
Melian (11)
Ossë (4)
Pallando (4)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (4)
Uinen (11)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hurt Arien and Tilion, heal Pallando

Aiwendil (5)
Alatar (4)
Arien (3)
Durin's Bane (6)
Melian (11)
Ossë (4)
Pallando (5)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (3)
Uinen (11)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith

[Lalaith]

Heal Arien, hurt Pallando, hurt Salmar.

Aiwendil (5)
Alatar (4)
Arien (4)
Durin's Bane (6)
Melian (11)
Ossë (4)
Pallando (4)
Salmar (6)
Tilion (3)
Uinen (11)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith

[Aganzir]

Heal Arien, hurt Alatar & Pallando.

Aiwendil (5)
Alatar (3)
Arien (5)
Durin's Bane (6)
Melian (11)
Ossë (4)
Pallando (3)
Salmar (6)
Tilion (3)
Uinen (11)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith

[Mithalwen]

Dead
Ilmarë by morm&gil (Like the sound of this one!)

Gothmog by Lalaith (that's not a particularly alluring scent, is it Mith?)

Indeed hints of smog, cat and gloomy adolescent....

[Eönwë]

Hurt Uinen and Melian, Heal Salmar

Aiwendil (5)
Alatar (3)
Arien (5)
Durin's Bane (6)
Melian (10)
Ossë (4)
Pallando (3)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (3)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Double Hurt Aiwendil Heal Salmar

Aiwendil (3)
Alatar (3)
Arien (5)
Durin's Bane (6)
Melian (10)
Ossë (4)
Pallando (3)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (3)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith

[Thinlómien]

Heal Arien, hurt Pallando and Durin's Bane

Aiwendil (3)
Alatar (3)
Arien (6)
Durin's Bane (5)
Melian (10)
Ossë (4)
Pallando (2)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (3)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Heal Pallando, double hurt Arien

Aiwendil (3)
Alatar (3)
Arien (4)
Durin's Bane (5)
Melian (10)
Ossë (4)
Pallando (3)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (3)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith

[Aganzir]

Heal Arien, hurt Alatar & Pallando.

Aiwendil (3)
Alatar (2)
Arien (5)
Durin's Bane (5)
Melian (10)
Ossë (4)
Pallando (2)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (3)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith

[Eönwë]

Hurt Uinen and Melian, heal Salmar

Aiwendil (3)
Alatar (2)
Arien (5)
Durin's Bane (5)
Melian (9)
Ossë (4)
Pallando (2)
Salmar (9)
Tilion (3)
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith

[mormegil]

Kill Pallando Heal Melian

Aiwendil (3)
Alatar (2)
Arien (5)
Durin's Bane (5)
Melian (10)
Ossë (4)
Salmar (9)
Tilion (3)
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by mormegil

[Thinlómien]

*hugs morm* :D

Heal Arien (because people seem to have grudges against her and I like her), hurt Salmar (nothing personal, I just like most the other contestants so much that making the horns of Ulmo is not enough to be worth having that many points!) and Durin's Bane (boring and actually I think he seems a bit dim-witted :p).

Aiwendil (3)
Alatar (2)
Arien (6)
Durin's Bane (4)
Melian (10)
Ossë (4)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (3)
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by mormegil

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Uinen Hurt Durin's Bane Hurt Osse

Aiwendil (3)
Alatar (2)
Arien (6)
Durin's Bane (3)
Melian (10)
Ossë (3)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (3)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by mormegil

[Aganzir]

Kill Alatar, heal Arien.

Aiwendil (3)
Arien (7)
Durin's Bane (3)
Melian (10)
Ossë (3)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (3)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by mormegil
Eönwë by mormegil
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by mormegil
Alatar by Aganzir

[Eönwë]

Hurt Melian and Uinen, heal Tilion

Aiwendil (3)
Arien (7)
Durin's Bane (3)
Melian (9)
Ossë (3)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (4)
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by maia-killer-egil
Eönwë by maia-killer-egil
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by maia-killer-egil
Alatar by Aganzir

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Double hurt Arien, heal Aiwendil (and it's not that I have anything special against Arien either, but of all people, she got undeservedly many points. Basically for a long time already there is nobody particular that I would think deserves to be eliminated or something, but basically Arien is probably the least interesting compared to how many points she had. Tilion is similar or even worse, but then again, he had less points always and nobody quite cared for defending him.)

Aiwendil (4)
Arien (5)
Durin's Bane (3)
Melian (9)
Ossë (3)
Salmar (8)
Tilion (4)
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by maia-killer-egil
Eönwë by maia-killer-egil
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by maia-killer-egil
Alatar by Aganzir

[Thinlómien]

Hurt Eönwë and Legate... whoops. :p;)

Ahem... Heal Arien, hurt DB and Salmar. :D

Aiwendil (4)
Arien (6)
Durin's Bane (2)
Melian (9)
Ossë (3)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (4)
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by maia-killer-egil
Eönwë by maia-killer-egil
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by maia-killer-egil
Alatar by Aganzir

[Mnemosyne]

Kill Durin's Bane. Heal Arien.


Aiwendil (4)
Arien (7)
Durin's Bane (0) *smites a mountain in his ruin*
Melian (9)
Ossë (3)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (4)
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Mnemosyne

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Hurt Aiwendil Hurt Tilion Heal Melian

Aiwendil (3)
Arien (7)
Melian (10)
Ossë (3)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (3)
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Mnemosyne

[Gordis]

Hurt Arien and Salmar Heal Radagast

Aiwendil (4)
Arien (6)
Melian (10)
Ossë (3)
Salmar (6)
Tilion (3)
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Mnemosyne

[Aganzir]

Heal Arien, hurt Salmar & Uinen.

Aiwendil (4)
Arien (7)
Melian (10)
Ossë (3)
Salmar (5)
Tilion (3)
Uinen (8)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Mnemosyne

[mormegil]

Double hurt Aiwendil heal Osse

Aiwendil (2)
Arien (7)
Melian (10)
Ossë (4)
Salmar (5)
Tilion (3)
Uinen (8)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Mnemosyne

[satansaloser2005]

*snipes in*

Kill Aiwendil (since Mnemo's sleeping and I'm strange like that). Heal....Tilion.

Aiwendil (0) dead of a really rubbish death
Arien (7)
Melian (10)
Ossë (4)
Salmar (5)
Tilion (4)
Uinen (8)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally


*snipes out*

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Oh crap, no longer double hurts, right? So I will go with just one now.

Hurt Arien, heal Salmar

Arien (6)
Melian (10)
Ossë (4)
Salmar (6)
Tilion (4)
Uinen (8)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally

EDIT: fixed what Sally mentions in her further post

[satansaloser2005]

Oh crap, no longer double hurts, right? So I will go with just one now.

Hurt Arien, heal Salmar

Arien (6)
Melian (10)
Ossë (4)
Salmar (6)
Tilion (4)
Uinen (8)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally



Meep, sorry dear. I forgot to update Tilion's score. He should have four.

[Eönwë]

Hurt Melian (she has way too much), heal Salmar

Arien (6)
Melian (9)
Ossë (4)
Salmar (7)
Tilion (4)
Uinen (8)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally

[Lalaith]

Hurt Salmar, heal Arien

Arien (7)
Melian (9)
Ossë (4)
Salmar (6)
Tilion (4)
Uinen (8)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally

[Mithalwen]

Hurt Salmar, heal Tilion
Arien (7)
Melian (9)
Ossë (4)
Salmar (5)
Tilion (5)
Uinen (8)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

By the way, you can still hurt TWO people... only they have to be separate ones (i.e. not a doublehurt one person). I just voted only one because I decided not to.

[skip spence]

Heal Ossë, hurt Tilion & Salmar

Arien (7)
Melian (9)
Ossë (5)
Salmar (4)
Tilion (4)
Uinen (8)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally[/QUOTE]

[mormegil]

Hurt Arien and Uinen Heal Melian

Arien (6)
Melian (10)
Ossë (5)
Salmar (4)
Tilion (4)
Uinen (7)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hurt Arien and Tilion, heal Salmar

Arien (5)
Melian (10)
Ossë (5)
Salmar (5)
Tilion (3)
Uinen (7)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally

[Thinlómien]

Hurt Salmar and Tilion, heal Arien

Arien (6)
Melian (10)
Ossë (5)
Salmar (4)
Tilion (2)
Uinen (7)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Uinen Hurt Arien Hurt Tilion

Arien (5)
Melian (10)
Ossë (5)
Salmar (4)
Tilion (1)
Uinen (8)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
__________________

[Mnemosyne]

Kill Tilion, hurt Salmar, heal Uinen.

Arien (5)
Melian (10)
Ossë (5)
Salmar (3)
Tilion (0) Burnt by the sun
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne

[Gordis]

Hurt Melian, Hurt Salmar, Heal Uinen

Arien (5)
Melian (9)
Ossë (5)
Salmar (2)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hurt Arien, hurt Ossë, heal Salmar

Arien (4)
Melian (9)
Ossë (4)
Salmar (3)
Uinen (10)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne

(btw Mnemo you did not remove the line where Tuor states his kill choices from your post. Just so that it does not confuse anyone.)

[mormegil]

Hurt Uinen and Salmar Heal Melian

Arien (4)
Melian (10)
Ossë (4)
Salmar (2)
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne

[Thinlómien]

Hurt Salmar and hurt Melian (well she must be my favourite of these but I'm just making stuff a tad more exciting! ;)), heal Arien (I really have no obsession over her survival but she deserves to sruvive longer than some Salmar...)

Arien (5)
Melian (9)
Ossë (4)
Salmar (1)
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne

[Mnemosyne]

Kill Salmar, hurt Osse, heal Arien.

Arien (6)
Melian (9)
Ossë (3)
Salmar (0) *dies of obscurity*
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne

[Eönwë]

Hurt Uinen and Melian heal Salmar

Arien (4)
Melian (9)
Ossë (4)
Uinen (8)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hurt Salmar and hurt Melian (well she must be my favourite of these but I'm just making stuff a tad more exciting! ;)), heal Arien (I really have no obsession over her survival but she deserves to sruvive longer than some Salmar...)

But Salmar made the horns of Ulmo!!! That's the only reason I am voting him all the time...

[Gordis]

Hurt Osse, Hurt Arien, Heal Uinen

Arien (5)
Melian (8)
Ossë (2)
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hurt Arien, heal Uinen

Arien (4)
Melian (7)
Ossë (2)
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne

EDITED: Now this post reflects both Gordis' and Eonwe's votes, except for Eonwe's vote for Salmar which was no longer relevant.

[Gordis]

Salmar is long dead, guys!

And the count is wrong starting with Eonwe

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

UP TO DATE

Arien (4)
Melian (7)
Ossë (2)
Uinen (9)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne

This post reflects both Gordis' and Eonwe's and my votes, except for Eonwe's vote for Salmar which was no longer relevant.

[Eönwë]

oops. too much x-ing

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Melian Hurt Uinen Hurt Arien

Arien (3)
Melian (8)
Ossë (2)
Uinen (8)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne

[Eönwë]

Hurt Melian and Uinen, heal Osse

Arien (3)
Melian (8)
Ossë (3)
Uinen (8)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne

[skip spence]

Hurt Arien and Melian, heal Ossë

Arien (2)
Melian (7)
Ossë (4)
Uinen (8)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne

[Thinlómien]

*turns cloak* Hurt Ossë and Arien, heal Melian...

Arien (1)
Melian (8)
Ossë (3)
Uinen (8)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne

[satansaloser2005]

Kill Arien. Mwahahahaha.

Kill Arien, hurt Ossë. Don't feel like healing anyone. :p


Arien (0)
Melian (8)
Ossë (2)
Uinen (8)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Hurt Uinen

Melian (8)
Ossë (2)
Uinen (7)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hurt Melian.... to make it more fair....

Melian (7)
Ossë (2)
Uinen (7)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally

[Gordis]

Hurt Melian.... to make it fairer still ;)

Melian (6)
Ossë (2)
Uinen (7)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally

[Thinlómien]

Hurt Ossë and Uinen

Melian (6)
Ossë (1)
Uinen (6)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally

[Gordis]

Sorry, with 3 characters you have either one hurt or one heal :)

[Aganzir]

You all are horrible male-chauvinists!

Kill Ossë.

Melian (6)
Uinen (6)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally
Ossë by Aganzir

[Gordis]

I believe he correct score is
Melian (6)
Uinen(7)

Because Thinlómien had right for only one vote.

[mormegil]

Hurt Uinen

Melian (6)
Uinen (6)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally
Ossë by Aganzir

Based on Gordis' calculations

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Hurt Uinen

Melian (6)
Uinen (5)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally

[satansaloser2005]

What Tuor said. Aka hurt Uinen.

Melian (6)
Uinen (4)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally

[Nogrod]

Hurt Uinen.

Melian (6)
Uinen (3)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Having given this deep study, I predict a female will
win this contest. And don't even suggest a good
maia would have a sex change (Sauron maybe). :eek:
Sort of like that Tom Baker Dr. Who episode (with
Sarah Jane Smith) where the chief baddie became a
guy at the end.

[Thinlómien]

Sorry for messing up. :)

Hurt Uinen.

Melian (6)
Uinen (2)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally
Ossë by Aganzir

[Mnemosyne]

Hoy, what's with all the hurting?

Heal Uinen, who did not abandon her realm to Doom just because her hubby happened to get himself killed by cheesing off the Dwarves.

Plus Uinen has sweet hair.

Melian (6)
Uinen (3)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally
Ossë by Aganzir

[mormegil]

Hurt Uinen

Melian (6)
Uinen (2)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally
Ossë by Aganzir
______________

[Gordis]

Heal Uinen - she is an awesome maia, working hard to keep her mad husband in check - which Melian was never able to do.:p

Melian (6)
Uinen (3)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally
Ossë by Aganzir

[Eönwë]

Heal Uinen

Melian (6)
Uinen (4)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally
Ossë by Aganzir

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Hurt Melian

Melian 5)
Uinen (4)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally
Ossë by Aganzir

[wilwarin538]

Hurt Uinen

Melian (5)
Uinen (3)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally
Ossë by Aganzir

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hurt Melian. Uinen was nice (not that Melian wasn't, but... she has also more points :) ).

Melian (4)
Uinen (3)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally
Ossë by Aganzir

[Eönwë]

Heal Uinen

Melian (4)
Uinen (4)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally
Ossë by Aganzir

[Nogrod]

Continuing like this it will never end... Should we go for a rule that no heals anymore at some point if this continues this way like a week? :)

But anyway hurt Uinen, Melian has more character in her.

Melian (4)
Uinen (3)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally
Ossë by Aganzir

[Aganzir]

Yes hurt Uinen.

Melian (4)
Uinen (2)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally
Ossë by Aganzir

[Gordis]

hurt Melian

Melian (3)
Uinen (2)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally
Ossë by Aganzir

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Come on, like Gordis said, Uinen was able to calm down her husband. Besides, I like water. Hurt Melian.

Melian (2)
Uinen (2)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally
Ossë by Aganzir

[Thinlómien]

Heal Melian

Sha has more character and is not a boring/annoying passive woman the same way as Uinen sometimes is.

Melian (3)
Uinen (2)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally
Ossë by Aganzir

[Nogrod]

Hurt Uinen

Melian (3)
Uinen (1)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally
Ossë by Aganzir

[Aganzir]

Hurt Uinen.

Melian (3)
Uinen (0)

Dead
Ilmarë by morm
Eönwë by morm
Gothmog by Lalaith
Pallando by morm
Alatar by Aganzir
Durin's Bane by Durin's Bane's Bane aka Mnemosyne
Aiwendil by Sally
Tilion by Mnemosyne
Salmar by Mnemosyne
Arien by Sally
Ossë by Aganzir
Uinen by Aganzir

Ha!

[Thinlómien]

Yay, my favourite won and my second favourite was the second. ;)

[Gordis]

Grr... poor Uinen...:(


What next?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

I imagine Uinen will now have to drag Osse back to
Manwe and Varda for more anger control counselling.

[mormegil]

I think something like the weapons and other oddities would be fun.

[Aganzir]

I'm fine with weapons.

[mormegil]

I'm fine with weapons.

Would you be so kind as to organize and start the thread please?

[Aganzir]

Would you be so kind as to organize and start the thread please?
Sure. :)