Admin Thread for Tol-in-Gaurhoth XVIII: The Cottage of Lost Play

[Mnemosyne]

History

Beginning with a personal testimonial!

What really turned my mild fascination with the Barrow-downs to an obsession was Werewolf. I started reading games at number 2, and by the time the beautifully evil twist ending of number 3 was over, I was hooked.

Why?

Because it was good storytelling--something like a murder mystery--happening before my eyes.

So I had long ago decided that if I ever joined and modded a game I would want to hold a game that would be so good people would want to read along with it. This is that game.

Premise

If you choose to participate in this game, your primary motive is STILL victory for your team; however, your secondary motive is to make a good story. This is something that we should all work together towards--good, evil, and mod. I am not putting in place any sort of "third person roleplaying" rules--everyone may still post from the first person--but you are NOT allowed to break character. This means that if you have to go to sleep during a DAY phase, don't say anything about it! You're just gone in the game. Nothing off-topic should be placed in the game thread.

"Not breaking character" will not, however, be as difficult as it seems. Your role in this game for narrational purposes is a hybrid of yourself in real life and your Downsian persona. You can develop this character more fully if you'd like, but the main thing is that you should NOT be accustomed to killing.

Narrational background

The premise behind the game is this: you have all been invited to a mysterious and very nicely apportioned Tolkien-themed dinner (specific location to be determined) in a mansion that looks (at least from the outside) incredibly expensive and not a little ominous. You've been chosen for this particular dinner because you're all 'Downers, and the 'Downs is very well known for its bookish discussions. (As such, I would REALLY like to make a rule that you can't play this game unless you've read the books; however, I'm willing to overlook that.) All expenses are paid for.

Too bad the place is a death trap.

Logistics

The game itself will be a classic game. We will have three werewolves, one seer, and one ranger.

Werewolves will only be permitted to PM during the Night phase. After Night One, during each Night phase they may select one person to kill. Unless that person is protected by the Ranger, the victim will be found dead in the morning.

The Seer will send me the name of a person whose role he wishes to determine during each Night phase. I will PM that person back and inform him of the person's role.

The Ranger will send me the name of a person whom he wishes to save. If the Ranger picks the same person as the Werewolves, that person will not die. The person whom the ranger saved will be revealed in the game narration.

All remaining players will be villagers. It is their role to vote on a person to lynch during a Day phase. Werewolves and gifteds will, of course, also be participating in the Day phase as ordinary villagers.

Please cast your votes preceded by two "+" signs, bolded, and on a separate line, like this:

++Mnemosyne

In the event of a tie, for the first two ties only, both candidates will be killed. All ties thereafter will be determined by the flip of a coin.

DAYs will begin and end at 1900 GMT.

All Night picks must be sent to me two hours before the deadline (or 1700 GMT). Picks sent after that time will not be counted.

Narrational Help

For those who are interested in playing this game, I would like the following by PM:

A description of your character
Formal attire for the dinner
Informal attire for the remaining days
A description of what your room looks like
As many canonical Tolkienian deaths as you can think of

Feel free to lie on the first four if you are either a very private person or you think that the game would benefit from having answers other than the truth. I cannot guarantee a use of all of this information (which means maybe you CAN omit some), but I'd like to have a wide array to create some verisimilitude.

Sign-ups

As soon as we hit 13 players we're good to go. Please also let me know what time for deadline works best for you (I CANNOT do 21:00-4:00 GMT; a few hours after/before would work best for me).

Players:
Nessa Telrunya
Inziladun
Shastanis Athreduin
Pitchwife
McCaber
Nogrod
autume98
Boromir88
Lalaith
Nerwen
Rikae
Feanor of the Peredhil
Eonwe

Credits/Research
Just about everything J.R.R. Tolkien ever wrote
"Usher 2" by Ray Bradbury (from The Martian Chronicles)
The Prisoner starring Patrick McGoohan
The very first few TIG games

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I had hoped to be first signup. Woe.

[Pitchwife]

Here's an unexperienced but (usually) well behaved puppy dying to join the pack!

I've spent the last half year or so watching every current game (and reading up on a handful of older ones inbetween), so I hope I won't screw up too badly. As for deadline, everything between 13:00 and 21:00 GMT is fine with me, anything earlier would be difficult, but I'll try to manage.

[McCaber]

I will sign up with a question mark. My time just got a bit full, but I would love to play an old-school style storytelling game.

[satansaloser2005]

Sally reporting for comoddess duty, sir....erm, ma'am.

[Nogrod]

Sounds like fun! And I have always loved these "litterary-ones" - those few we've had. So count me in as well.

As for the deadlines; the nearer to 21GMT the better (and the farthest from 4AM GMT the better). That's what being European on vacation comes down to... :)

[satansaloser2005]

By the way, if this is the idea we discussed at school....heh, heh, heh.


Come one, come all, join the madness! :D

[Mnemosyne]

Hurrah! I shall ask for The Hostess to arrange for a flight to the slightly disturbing mansion from Finland.

And the other places as well, of course...

Editing names in in, like, a minute.

[Inziladun]

I just noticed that no Hunter position was listed above. I assume that's intentional?

[Pitchwife]

And what about a cobbler - or won't we know that in advance? And retractable or irretractable votes?

[Mnemosyne]

No hunter; no cobbler. As a "classic" game I thought it was important to pare down the roles to their most basic form, and I almost didn't even include a Ranger.

Votes are irretractable.

A maximum of two double-lynches will be permitted during the game.

[Nogrod]

I think we have had such a many experimental games lately that we tend to forget the basic set-up. So cobblers are an addition and have been just in a few games in here (more lately) - and some argue even the hunter is an additon, but I think most games have one. But it's nice to see a rather conservative line-up for a while.

Although I'm not so sure I like these "night kill" numbers being one or two per Night when the moddess so decides - or that there would be a limited (depending on what?) double-lynch-possibility...

Well, you're calling the trouble on yourself Mnemo... your choice. (Just see how Brinn was called after her decisions just on whether to modkill somene or not - and you're possibly digging yourself a much deeper grave here...:)).

I just suggest you make some rules that will be on for the whole game and make them clear (add the final version to the beginning of the game thread - well, some people will claim they didn't know even if they were there, but you at least had done your best to inform people - as soon as you get decided on them).

So either one kill / Night, or two kills / Night (up to a certain number of wolves around or something - or all the time, as soon as there is a rule we know why it was so). So not that you just decide whether there will be multiple kills or not on a Nightly basis - unless that's the twist you wish to bring in this time (but then I'm afraid many people will just not come near this game looking at how some reacted to the last one).

I'm easier with the double-lynches. If it's said we have two, then fine - meaning it's the first two and there will be no nitpicking over it aterwards eg. everybody knows and understands the rule. If it will be random when a double-lynch happens you may need to kiss goodbye to a number of players once more.

So make the terms clear. Then it's up to everyone to decide whether they want to join or not.

I'm in, anyway, whatever your rules will be... I'm just on vacation and want to see this one through. ;)

[Mnemosyne]

I might be convinced to let the variable kills drop (I am thinking it would only happen once in the game, and would either be "two kills" or "no kills"). The reason for including it in the first place is more of a character disposition of the Hostess (for storytelling purposes) than anything else. After last game's confusion I don't want to do anything that would make this game terribly stressful to the players, much less result in meltdowns, hurt feelings, or disrespect.

The reason I wanted to put double-lynches back in is because they were staples in the early games, and were only dropped because people realized that if the seer survives long enough to give a list of known innocents, the village can automatically win mathematically. Limiting the number of double-lynches should get rid of that possibility.

Actually, the Hunter and Ranger (originally Guardian) were introduced at the same time--as well as the Cursed Villager. This is why I mentioned that at one point I was seriously considering not including a Ranger either.

So the variable kills are up for discussion.

Also, more people need to sign up--hopefully ones who aren't burned out by the last game.

ETA: And yes, the first two double-lynches would be successful.

ETA II: After careful consideration, especially of the last game, I've decided to nix the variable kills. The first post will be edited accordingly, as well as include other rules that have been already discussed. Thanks, Nog.

[Nogrod]

Also, more people need to sign up--hopefully ones who aren't burned out by the last game.There may be another reason for a slow sign-up... and that is it being July...

I don't remember we've had a host of games on July - well someone can check that out - but I'm pretty comfortable with that feeling.

But I do hope people come forwards. 13 shouldn't be too much! (Well I know Lommy and Aganzir are on an Inter-Rail for three weeks at least cruising through Europe and Greenie will probably not take part either as she has a summer camp ahead of her soon).

[Mnemosyne]

There may be another reason for a slow sign-up... and that is it being July...

I don't remember we've had a host of games on July - well someone can check that out - but I'm pretty comfortable with that feeling.



I was thinking that, too. Well, if the thread has to be up for a while that'll give me more time to prepare insta-narrations, I suppose.

Sally has also promised to help on the PR front with recruiting, as she's got a lot more social interaction guts than I do.

[Nogrod]

Heh. Don't be afraid. It will turn out a game... and a good one!

It may just take some time to start at this point of the year.

But the better prepared you can then be... (sorry about this Yoda-language) :D

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

It would rock my world if this game didn't start until the 19th.

Since that's distinctly unlikely, I'll just register my sadness that I can't join in. This looks like my idea of an absolutely perfect game. Alas...

[autume98]

Hello,

I'm new here and I would like to join this game.

Thanks! :)

[satansaloser2005]

*points up*

See, my darling duckling? I told you I'd get more player(s).

:smokin:


Welcome, Tum. Nice to have you! *pokes* Fresh meat, precioussss....

[Inziladun]

Welcome, Tum. Nice to have you! *pokes* Fresh meat, precioussss....

I think it's really Nerwen incognito, or maybe Gaurcrist. :)
Anyway, welcome!

[Mnemosyne]

Fea, all I can say to that is "we'll see..." As long as it ends before August 2nd I can run it just fine. I'd love to have some old-timers on board as they were some of the ones I used to imagine having in the game.

And welcome to the 'Downs, autume98!

Remember, people, the sooner I get personal info the easier it will become for me to get some advance narrations done!

[Eönwë]

So either one kill / Night, or two kills / Night (up to a certain number of wolves around or something - or all the time, as soon as there is a rule we know why it was so). So not that you just decide whether there will be multiple kills or not on a Nightly basis - unless that's the twist you wish to bring in this time (but then I'm afraid many people will just not come near this game looking at how some reacted to the last one).

I'm easier with the double-lynches. If it's said we have two, then fine - meaning it's the first two and there will be no nitpicking over it aterwards eg. everybody knows and understands the rule. If it will be random when a double-lynch happens you may need to kiss goodbye to a number of players once more.

How? Couldn't we just decide (while playing) when to use our double lynches?
And couldn't the wolves just decide to use their double kill (as long is it isn't past a certain stage in the game)?

I may be able to play, so put me down with a question mark.

[satansaloser2005]

I think it's really Nerwen incognito, or maybe Gaurcrist. :)
Anyway, welcome!

You've got to be joking! It's obvious, isn't it? Phantom's ego finally got its own account. ;)


How? Couldn't we just decide (while playing) when to use our double lynches?
And couldn't the wolves just decide to use their double kill (as long is it isn't past a certain stage in the game)?

I may be able to play, so put me down with a question mark.

On the plus side, at least most of this discussion is happening pre-game instead of wasting Day One time. Heh, right....

Oh, and a possible welcome aboard, dearie. :)

[Nessa Telrunya]

What if each team only got one double kill/lynch up to a certain time in the game? That is, because having smaller teams and suffering a double kill/lynch would make it almost unfair.


And welcome to the Downs Tum!!

[Mnemosyne]

There's no "each team" about it. Everyone in the village participates in the same lynch. So how the village decides to use its double lynches is up to the village.

And I've nixed the double kills, anyway. Much easier for wolves to decide on two people to kill because they know who they are.

[Pitchwife]

Besides, the chance for the village to catch two wolves in a double-lynch is rather slim anyway, isn't it?

[autume98]

Thanks for the welcome! I look forward to playing. :)

[Nogrod]

Besides, the chance for the village to catch two wolves in a double-lynch is rather slim anyway, isn't it?That would be just super, but I'm afraid that has never happened.

There are I think two kinds of double-lynches: intentional and unintentional ones (denoting to the vague idea of "common consent" of the villagers).

The intentional double-lynches tend to be those where there is a commonly shared belief that someone is acting too weird / non-participatory to raise concern etc., but none would like to "waste" a lynch on them. So with a double-lynch people can both aim at a baddie and to remove a problem hoping to get at least one from two - or at least to get some information. Sadly the wolves surely love betting on this game...

The unintentional ones tend to be those where someone just goes on with her own idea being confident her candidate is the one to lynch and she brings in the crucial vote, or someone miscounts the votes at the last minute and produces a double - or a wolf who claims to have miscounted the votes and lynches two innocents... or whatever.

They can be good to clear out some suspicions, especially looking at the relations of the lynched one to some other suspects on the next Day when the roles are revealed, but it has it's downsides as well.


Welcome Tum! :)

[Boromir88]

Alright, I said Brinn's game would be the last for the summer, as I have tons of reading and prep to do for next semester, but can't hurt to sneak in one more.

As an advanced warning though, my activity will be pretty minimal (compared to my usual) and I will definitely have my roommate making sure I won't spend too much time here and will get to the work I need done by August.

[Inziladun]

Alright, I said Brinn's game would be the last for the summer, as I have tons of reading and prep to do for next semester, but can't hurt to sneak in one more.

As an advanced warning though, my activity will be pretty minimal (compared to my usual) and I will definitely have my roommate making sure I won't spend too much time here and will get to the work I need done by August.

Good deal, Boro! I wish just a few more would commit. I'm ready to start this thing. ;)

[Lalaith]

I am going to be less busy at work, and subsequently on holiday, so, for the first time in soooooooooo long, I'm in! :smokin:

[satansaloser2005]

Holy cow, Lalaith! Yay! :D

[Mnemosyne]

*muffled squee*

[Nerwen]

Count me in, as usual. It's no good trying to beat this addiction...

[Nerwen]

I think it's really Nerwen incognito, or maybe Gaurcrist. :)

Actually, I have a confession to make: Gaurcrist and I are one and the same anyway.;)

I was so disappointed that Wilwa didn't make "him" a gifted in WWLXI. That would have been the best cheat ever. *sigh*

[Inziladun]

Actually, I have a confession to make: Gaurcrist and I are one and the same anyway.;)

I was so disappointed that Wilwa didn't make "him" a gifted in WWLXI. That would have been the best cheat ever. *sigh*

Oddly enough, I haven't seen him around since that game. He and the phantom did a good job of deflecting attention from the real wolves and onto themselves. :D

[Mnemosyne]

Oddly enough, I haven't seen him around since that game. He and the phantom did a good job of deflecting attention from the real wolves and onto themselves. :D

That's generally the purpose of loudmouths.

Nerwen, you're on the list!

[Rikae]

I'd like to play.
So, I suppose part of not breaking character means not talking about previous games, how people usually behave, how wolves behave, etc? That will be difficult.

[Nerwen]

As many canonical Tolkienian deaths as you can think of

Sorry, I don't understand this bit.

[satansaloser2005]

Sorry, I don't understand this bit.

Basically try to remember how people died in Lord of the Rings and PM as many as you can think of (I'd give an example but....well, you know....I'm me and you know how accurate the movies are) to the moddess. Like a list of the interesting character demises in the books.


Or at least that's what I think she means. Feel free to correct me, oh duckess. :)

Hope that helps!

[Inziladun]

Basically try to remember how people died in Lord of the Rings and PM as many as you can think of (I'd give an example but....well, you know....I'm me and you know how accurate the movies are) to the moddess. Like a list of the interesting character demises in the books.
Or at least that's what I think she means. Feel free to correct me, oh duckess. :)


That's what I did, and apparently that was correct.

[Nerwen]

Okay, thanks.

[Pitchwife]

So, I suppose part of not breaking character means not talking about previous games, how people usually behave, how wolves behave, etc? That will be difficult.

That depends - if understood Mnemie correctly, we're supposed to play ourselves as Downers; as such, it wouldn't be out of character for us to know and talk about Werewolf, would it?

PS. - Mnemie, did you miss Rikae's sign-up? She's not on the player list yet.
Just two short of 13! I hope this is going to start soon, waiting is becoming unbearable...

[Inziladun]

PS. - Mnemie, did you miss Rikae's sign-up? She's not on the player list yet.
Just two short of 13! I hope this is going to start soon, waiting is becoming unbearable...

I think Eönwë said earlier to put him down with a '?'.

[satansaloser2005]

Fea, it looks like we'll be starting later after all. You in?

*goes to poke a couple people on facebook*


Player list seems to be as follows:
Nessa
Zil
Shasta
Pitchwife
The McCobbler ;)
Nog
Fea (maybe, now that it seems we'll be starting later?)
Tum
Steve (?)
Boro
Lal
Nerwen
Rikae

Assuming no one else has signed up by PM or something (and assuming that Fea is still interested) we have the desired 13 players! (12 without Steve, though I hope he can play.) I know someone else who is interested but hasn't decided if they can play yet, so it looks like we're getting close!

[Nogrod]

C'mon everybody! Show up! :)

Darn... just realised I haven't fulfilled the requirements... *dashes off to do that*

[satansaloser2005]

C'mon everybody! Show up! :)

Darn... just realised I haven't fulfilled the requirements... *dashes off to do that*

Quite right, sir! ;)

[Mnemosyne]

I am currently thinking Night One is going to start on the 19th.

This way Fea can play, and we should be up to 13 if all of our ? players are in.

I will have more information for everyone shortly; I just wanted to give everyone a quick info update.

This should also, if any ?'s drop out, allow us to find replacements shortly, and lastly, for me to be able to do some advance narrations. I am seriously hoping that I will not fall into the moddess' sin of not getting narrations done on time.

Accordingly, I will need all Nighttime decisions in by 2 hours before the deadline.

[McCaber]

Remove the question mark from behind my name. I have signed up for real.

[Mnemosyne]

I'm going through the Personal Info things, and am still missing four people's. Since I'm still waiting on confirmation from Eonwe and Fea I won't kill them yet, but...

I am not waiting on Lalaith or autume. Except for the narrational aids. *suddenly wishes there were an angry face that did not look so virulent as the one we have*

McCaber, I'll make the necessary edit. Thank you!

Clarifications that should have been made, like, a week ago:

1). "Tolkienian deaths" does indeed mean any sorts of deaths that have happened in canon, for very, very loose definitions of canon. BoLT does not have to be ruled out, even! I've got a really good list so far; just need to do some more organization.

2). "Your room" is supposed to be your room at home. Even if it's a fairly lame room. I said this was inspired by The Prisoner, remember?

3). This is taking place in an alternate universe in which the Barrow-Wight never introduced Werewolf to the 'Downs. You are all theoretically called here because you're members of this great Tolkien site. So no, you shouldn't talk about how you've played with people before. All that you, the character, know about them is how coherently they can argue on the topics of Balrogs and Wings and Such.

Oh, and also.

Any vegetarians among us? :cool:

[Eönwë]

Now that it's the 19th, yes, I'm definitely in.

[Lalaith]

I'll send the stuff by PM tomorrow. Sorry, things at work have been busier than expected. Is that ok?

[Mnemosyne]

Perfectly fine!!

[Pitchwife]

Accordingly, I will need all Nighttime decisions in by 2 hours before the deadline.

How are the wolves supposed to manage that if they may only PM in the Nighttime? Decide one night in advance?

[satansaloser2005]

They may discuss strategy and such during the full 24 hours of the Night phase, they just have to get their kill choice in 2 hours before Dawn. Hope that helps. :)

[Pitchwife]

Thanks for the clarification. I was thinking of the Dusk deadline, not the Dawn. Stupid me:o!

[Mnemosyne]

Currently getting everything for narrations organized.

Day phases will start and end at 1900 GMT (keeping in mind much of the world is on Daylight Savings Time right now).

To Americans, this translates as 3:00 p.m. EDT; 2:00 Central.

If you have any questions about time zones and the deadline, you should clear those up with me now.

Same thing goes with the Rules. Rule questions should be placed on the thread until roles are sent out. Afterwards, they should be PMed to me and/or sally.

[Mnemosyne]

Game thread is up. Aside from headcounts and daycounts, everything OOC should be posted on this thread and not the gamethread.

During DUSKs, I will post a deadline one minute after 1900 GMT, Barrow-Downs time. This post will be later edited in to include narrations, and will get rid of the "deadline" text for smoother day/night transitions.

As such, I will respectfully request that all posts that occur after my "deadline" post be deleted. If the poster wishes, the content may be moved to this admin thread, which I just noticed has completely the wrong number on it.

Oh, well.

Gamethread doesn't, at least.

We're currently proceeding based on tentative communications with the idea that Fea is playing. Narrations should be easily editable if this turns out not to be the case, and we still have a few wiggle days in which to find someone else to take her place.

If there are ever any spelling/grammatical/formatting errors in my narration posts, please let me know by PM so that I may fix them.

Now to change my theme...

EDIT: Fea's in. Woop woop!

[Nogrod]

Nice to see this one beginning and looking forwards to the storytelling -mode!

During DUSKs, I will post a deadline one minute after 1900 GMT, Barrow-Downs time. This post will be later edited in to include narrations, and will get rid of the "deadline" text for smoother day/night transitions.

As such, I will respectfully request that all posts that occur after my "deadline" post be deleted. If the poster wishes, the content may be moved to this admin thread, which I just noticed has completely the wrong number on it.Exactly how it should be done imho! Kudos Mnemo for that!

[Pitchwife]

Great narration, Mnemi! Of course, I realize now I should have given some more consideration to my room description... well, now the bed I didn't make will be the one I've got to lie on:D!

[satansaloser2005]

Just a friendly reminder that once the game starts you lovelies should be in invisible mode. Don't forget! :)

[Mnemosyne]

All PMs are out.

It is currently Night One.

Wolves may PM; the Seer should send me a pick tonight.

Reminders

If you have any questions, take it to PM.

You should all be in invisible mode.

When Day begins, please remember to keep in mind that we are also working together as a team to make this a nice, readable, Werewolfian story. So anything that you think will make this read better, as long as it keeps in mind the primary goal of the game (i.e., playing it well for your side), is good.

Do not break character!

[Nerwen]

This is just to let you know that I probably won't be around for the first part of Day One. I am currently posting this from one of the three internet terminals in Bordertown, SA, and most likely won't have another chance until I'm back in Melbourne tomorrow evening.

I'll think up some in-game reason for my absence.

[Pitchwife]

Just a friendly reminder that once the game starts you lovelies should be in invisible mode. Don't forget! :)
!!!
If any of my fellow newbies (looking at nobody especially...:(;)) has problems finding the invisibility option, it's in your User CP, in the Control Panel on the left, under Edit Options.

[Mnemosyne]

By the skin of my teeth, the narration is up.

We are now in business.

You may post on the gamethread.

Good luck.

[Mnemosyne]

FYI, somehow I left a really important word out of the penultimate narration. You might want to reread the last few sentences.

Also, can't believe I forgot this, but vote for someone like this:

++Mnemosyne

In bold, on a separate line.

Otherwise I won't count it.

Nyah. :p

P.S. This is looking awesome.

[Pitchwife]

Back from work, trying to catch up.

[Nessa Telrunya]

Ah, sorry I took so long to get into the game! I had to get some internet acess first. And, noob question, what's this about "invisible mode"?

[Eönwë]

Just an interesing point: There are the same amount of posts on this Admin Thread as the game thread- not a good sign...

[Nogrod]

I'd bet the admin thread has the edge now... :(

[Mnemosyne]

Sorry about not getting the dl in in time. I was in the ER with a student (don't worry; everything's fine) for five hours. Since sally is out of town I couldn't have her sub in for me, and even my "I might not be around for dl" post got interrupted. The good news is that I won't be on this duty again for the rest of the week; probably ever.

Nessa, you need to be in "invisible mode" so that no one can tell when you're on the 'Downs or not (a high amount of NIGHTtime activity, for example, would indicate wolvishness or giftedness). To do so, click on the "User CP" tab, then "Edit Options" on the lefthand panel. The first box that you can check, check, then save changes at the bottom. Hope that helped!

Eonwe, if the gamethread posts are long and of a good quality, the length of the admin thread does not matter!

I should have the narration up within the next three hours; unfortunately I'm on full-time work now and won't get a break in till then.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I am so far beyond confused as to when DL is, my time, now. :confused:

[Nerwen]

Sorry, I believe I missed the DL again(!). I was confused about when it was.

[Rikae]

I'm sorry - I completely forgot the deadline. I'm used to later evening ones, so I wasn't looking for it - it won't happen again!

[Mnemosyne]

Narration's up.

[Mnemosyne]

Heads up:

I just had a HUGE amount of upheaval in my life. My current daily schedule that was intended to last for the next two weeks has been truncated, because the place where I'm working is closing early. (It's nothing terrible and won't be affecting me aside from scheduling changes, but if you want to know more you can PM me.)

The good news is is that this upheaval is not going to take full effect until sally is back to handle deadlines and narrations. I'm hoping that I'll be able to type up sufficient narration so that she can continue posting the way that I have; however, I can't guarantee everything. But I fully intend to let this change affect the game as little as possible.

I will let everyone know at what point they need to send PMs to both me and her. It should not be for another few days.

~Mnemosyne

[satansaloser2005]

Hello, dear ones. All is a go for me to be home tomorrow evening, so if you need anything so ahead and PM me/Mnemo with your questions. And, for future reference, if you should need to get ahold of me once Mnemo is unavailable....if my PM box is full my e-mail is listed on my profile so you'll be able to catch me that way as well. You're all doing fabulously, and I can't wait until I can catch up on the thread properly. Until tomorrow~!


~~Sally~~


P.S. Nerwen missed the DL again?! :p

[Mnemosyne]

Sally will probably be posting the DL today. I will still be around to handle Nighttime PMs, though you should probably copy her just to be safe.

[Lalaith]

Just to let you know, RL commitments mean that I will be voting early (in the next hour) and will not be here for deadline.

[Nogrod]

I'm going to see an European Cup football match to the stadium right down the corner of my home but will be back about an hour before the DL. Just FYI.

[Eönwë]

Just wanted to say... My vote was after DL, so I had to delete it.

edit: So it seems that I could have kept it. Oh well... too late now.

[Mnemosyne]

If it was, then it was. I was refreshing things really quickly so in hindsight I'm not sure if you squeaked in or not (I thought you had at the time).

In any case, it doesn't count now.

It's okay to wait 5 minutes or so to let things cool down before we go and delete everything.

[Mnemosyne]

Okay, so just to reiterate:

During DUSKs, I will post a deadline one minute after 1900 GMT, Barrow-Downs time. This post will be later edited in to include narrations, and will get rid of the "deadline" text for smoother day/night transitions.

As such, I will respectfully request that all posts that occur after my "deadline" post be deleted. If the poster wishes, the content may be moved to this admin thread.

[Rikae]

Oh no - famous last words. :(
I can't find where it says (if it says) what the voting/modfire rules are, but if you want to modfire me, I richly deserve it. I almost voted this morning to prevent this from happening... should have done so - ended up spending the whole day running errands in the new car with the clock three hours slow.
*headdesk*

[Mnemosyne]

Narration is up, and I'm rather proud of it.

There are no modfire rules in this game. The houseguests should deal with such situations themselves.

[Pitchwife]

Narration is up, and I'm rather proud of it.

And rightly so! Thanks, thanks, thanks for a great death scene! I was panting with excitement reading this. Awesome job!
And good luck to all my fellow innocents! I can't wait to watch the end of this...

[Pitchwife]

Mnemi -
At the last minute, though, Eönwë cast the deciding vote for Inziladun.
Did he indeed? I thought Eönwe's vote was after deadline and didn't count?
Last time I looked, it was Nerwen who brought Inzil up to 2 votes together with Shasta and me. Please clarify!

[Mnemosyne]

Eonwe voted for Inziladun at 1901 GMT just before I posted the deadline post, but then deleted it about thirty seconds afterward (even though it would have counted, per my rules posted above). Since reposting that vote would have occurred after the deadline, I decided not to count the vote.

The narration reflects in a gamely fashion some of the confusions that resulted.

So toMorrow if you want to address the whole issue, in-game you should address Eonwe's reluctance to kill and not a deleted vote.

So, recapitulation:

In the narration, Eonwe's vote counted. In the actual game, it didn't. This fact was borne out in the narration by Eonwe's reluctance to kill Inziladun and Inziladun's subsequent outburst.

Hope that clarifies all the confusions.

[Inziladun]

Glorious!! Two for the price of one!! Mwah hah hah hah hah! :cool:

[Inziladun]

By which of course , I meant to say 'I like the narration very much'. ;)

[Mnemosyne]

By which of course , I meant to say 'I like the narration very much'. ;)

*cough* If you say so...

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I don't really like the narration, though it's nothing to do with Mnemosyne's writing skills. Maybe I'm just bitter for getting killed trying to tell a story, as we were asked to as per the theme of this game in the first place?

Thanks a heap.

[Lalaith]

Yet again, I have to give an early vote warning.

I will not be around at all tomorrow so I will have to vote late tonight (midnight- 1 am GMT) or perhaps early tomorrow morning if I feel optimistic about getting up *really* early...

[autume98]

I was going to vote yesterday and then my connection just crapped out on me.

[satansaloser2005]

Who are you, really?

Your mom.

--or--

I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.


(slid to the admin thread because we're all confused around here)

[Mnemosyne]

Narration is up.

I will be gone from 12:00 GMT Sunday to 0:00 GMT Tuesday (at least).

Wolf, please PM toNight's kill to me and Sally. If you can have a decision in before I am unavailable, I'll try to give Sally a full-fledged narration. I'm also planning on having a couple of mock narrations up for Day Four's lynch (there won't be too many options) so that that can be done ASAP.

If I cannot complete narrations on time, then Sally will place in a simple post with the name of the kill. A narration will be filled in as soon as humanly possible. In the case of Day Four, the game will be over anyway, so the game won't be dependent on the narration, plus I should be able to narrate by the time Day Five would have come about anyway. If the wolf (whether victim or victor) wishes to reveal you will all know anyway (personally I'd rather keep everyone hanging on tenterhooks, but that's just me).

But Sally will not reveal the identity of the Day Four lynch.

If it becomes clear nonetheless that the game is over with one clear victor, let me stress:

Commentary on the game should be restricted to this thread only. The game thread will be open only for closing narrations after Day Four.

Thank you all for an awesome game so far and I'll see you in a few days!

~Mnemosyne

[Nessa Telrunya]

O glorious dead! ^_^

[Mnemosyne]

All narrations (except for the closing ones) are done, so we're clear to have Sally be the amazing comoddess that she is.

I respectfully request that our resident lycan keep a shut trap as to his or her identity for maximum narrational suspense power, even if all votes are cast five minutes after Dawn.

[satansaloser2005]

Narration's up, and dern tasty if I may say so myself. Get to posting! :D

[satansaloser2005]

It looks as though we're all holding our votes for the last minute, then? Say, let's all vote for the person to the right (or, er, east). That way the wolf doesn't win in any case, and our hostess may find it interesting enough to resurrect us all (if anyone is really dead at all) and set us free!

:D


I will personally kill you....

:p



In other news I will be here to post the deadline but then I have to leave to check out a job opportunity. Please do not engage in any post-game discussion until you are told it is okay to do so, and after that make sure to keep all 'I told you so's, squeeing, and/or ranting confined to the admin thread. Thanks! :)



~~Sally~~


P.S. By post-game discussion I also mean revealing, so if you are killed (wolf or ordo) do NOT tell everyone what you are. Thanks again!

[satansaloser2005]

What if Mnemo thinks your three Days without a vote from four possible will trigger a modfire and we all die? :D

Ah, but I'm in charge now. :p


In all seriousness, no matter what happens (even if Rikae is the only one left alive at the end of the Day) my last instruction still stands. Narration will be up hopefully at exactly 2pm. Thanks for your patience if I'm a bit late.

[Nogrod]

Please do not engage in any post-game discussion until you are told it is okay to do soNow that's rude indeed!

I mean the only thing we wish now is to start the rambling immediately! Why wait until tomorrow or something?

And we know the result anyway.

I'm not one of those who say the mods are taking too much power to themselves or use dictatorial means, but not being able to start the post-game discussion when the game ends is a strict violation of human rights! I'll make an appeal to the United Nations for this! :rolleyes:

[satansaloser2005]

Now that's rude indeed!

I mean the only thing we wish now is to start the rambling immediately! Why wait until tomorrow or something?

And we know the result anyway.

I'm not one of those who say the mods are taking too much power to themselves or use dictatorial means, but not being able to start the post-game discussion when the game ends is a strict violation of human rights! I'll make an appeal to the United Nations for this! :rolleyes:



Hushabye, dear one. Patience is a virtue, and I've always thought you a rather nice man. Wait for Her Duckess's instructions. :)


ETA: Oh, and I'd just like to say. :p

[Nogrod]

ETA: Oh, and I'd just like to say. :pI saw the narration, all right.

Well, Rikae had to buy the right to the victory - and she surely did it! *kudos*

[satansaloser2005]

I saw the narration, all right.

Well, Rikae had to buy the right to the victory - and she surely did it! *kudos*


Oi! *slaps you on the wrist* I was serious about no discussion!

[Rikae]

Hmph, is this is what I think it is, I only have to say what George Harrison said about the B Sharps' rooftop performance -

that's been done.

:rolleyes:

[satansaloser2005]

Stow it, the both of you! Understand?!

*loves her Pirates of the Carribean*


Look, I have to go out for a job interview, but I was not kidding about discussion and stuff. Please to be keeping quiet, as Mnemo commands it.


Alternatively....

Silence! I kill you! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-go)

[Nogrod]

*sneaks in while the moddess is away*

Boo!!! :D

[Lalaith]

I am saying nothing in the least bit naughty...I am merely apologising for my hasty vote and subsequent absence. My sister in law turned up unexpectedly and it would have been very bad for family relations had I hung around on the computer.
Sorry about that.

[satansaloser2005]

Yeah, so not that it should surprise you, but I screwed up. *headdesks* I don't know if I read the rules as the first three ties go through or if I was just reading the game thread and assumed it had been changed or what, but yeah.

Here's the deal.


I forgot/misread/whatever the "first two ties go, and then coin flip" bit of the rules. Once I talked to Mnemo I of course realized my mistake, but that was like twenty minutes ago, so I'm just getting around to fixing my whoopsie.
I flipped a coin, and Nog lost.
The narration is being blended between mine and the one Mnemo wrote because, well, I like mine, and that way it makes a bit more sense with the failed tie and all.
I think I should be shot for messing it up, if I don't headdesk to death first.
The narration, v2.0, will be up shortly. Feel free to read (and possibly vomit).
Still don't talk, because things haven't changed. Well, you know what I mean.
Mnemo will be back sometime tomorrow to clean up my mess.
I'm having a cup of tea and taking a nap now. Kthnxbye.


Sorry again about the trouble. I have no idea what went through my head, but rest assured that everything was handled fairly and nothing really changed except the narration. (As in, once I realized I'd messed up the rules I fixed everything and everything happened how it should have happened if I wasn't so tired and slightly ignorant.) Any questions or concerns with my idiocy should be handled by PM to myself, and once again Mnemo will be back tomorrow to handle the closing of the game. Thanks for your patience. :)

~~Sally~~

[Mnemosyne]

I'm back now, and just wanted to apologize for the confusion earlier (if I'd had my phone off silent this would never have happened). I'm leaving the narrational fusion (all of my possibilities had not accounted for a tie) to Sally's capable paws, while reserving the right to go back through and make some stylistic edits.

In the meantime, since I know something you don't know, I'll work on the closing narrations. They should be up by the time the next Day would have started.

Hang in there!

[Mnemosyne]

I don't know why Sally didn't bother alerting everyone on this thread earlier but the new narration is up.

Nog just got Gelmir'd. *grin*

More to come shortly.



And aren't you all glad we postponed the post-game discussion since there was all of that tie mish-mashup?

[satansaloser2005]

Yeah, sorry about that. My computer went a bit nuts so I decided to go to bed because it wouldn't behave.

[Mnemosyne]

Yeah, sorry about that. My computer went a bit nuts so I decided to go to bed because it wouldn't behave.

Totally cool, my dear. Nice fusion, though I think I made it impossible by giving you a full-out execution to fuse into a tie-like situation.

[satansaloser2005]

Totally cool, my dear. Nice fusion, though I think I made it impossible by giving you a full-out execution to fuse into a tie-like situation.

Thanks very much. And feel free to edit; I had a rather shiny version but when my computer died it didn't save some of the changes so it's a bit rough now. Still, not bad. And there will be an end to the suffering at deadline, I assume?

[Mnemosyne]

Or sooner.

Penultimate bit of narration is up.

Players and observers, please still resist the urge!

[satansaloser2005]

Or sooner.

Penultimate bit of narration is up.

Players and observers, please still resist the urge!


Aha. Even better....

:D

[Mnemosyne]

Closing narration is up.

This thread is open for post-game discussion!

[satansaloser2005]

*squees, changes icon accordingly*

[Lalaith]

That narration was phenomenal, Mnemosyne...I really feel haunted now.
Apologies to all for my vile behaviour. To Fea, for abandoning her...although she did say we should...but especially to Nogrod. I've felt like a worm these last few days, if it's any consolation...

[Mnemosyne]

I'd like to thank my AMAZING cast of players and comoddess for a really good game. The teams ended up being very well-balanced, as the survival of only one player shows.

Given that I was really incredibly busy during this time and often couldn't be at the gamethread this went really smoothly, and I can only think of a few brief errors that happened during the whole game, all of which were cleaned up very quickly. I'd like to thank the players for going along with the whole triple-lynch thing with little to no complaints.

And also for not breaking character that much... :):mad::p Nog's last words were touching and I'm having a lot of fun with the idea of Lal breaking the news to them. I really wish Fea and Inzil could have stayed in the game a little longer, as well as our talented gifteds. On the other hand, if the game had lasted longer than it did I probably would have run out of narrational steam.

What was astonishing to me was how much this did genuinely feel like an early game. I guess we've been without multiple lynches long enough that there was some question as to how they should be used (the answer is this: hold them until your seer comes out with enough known innocents to shut the wolves out. This is also why I decided to limit the number of double lynches during the game). And I loved the fact that we had some very nice long analytical posts even up to the last Day.

I do have some little appendices for you which will be placed here sometime soon: the Night actions, initial PMs, and the other two possible narrations I had drummed up depending on how this last Day went (I honestly did not think anyone would leave it up to a tie; you people are awfully indecisive).

I encourage all and sundry to post on this thread, whether you were involved in the game or just reading it.

[Mnemosyne]

Wolf PMs

That night, you find yourself sleeping very fitfully. For some reason your dreams are plagued with ancient memories and the sweet taste of blood.

Finally, you wake up, and find yourself transformed into something new and glorious. This is the way things were meant to be.

You slip out of your room and find your fellows.

To make things absolutely clear: our noble werewolves are Lalaith, Feanor of the Peredhil, and Inziladun. You may now PM.

Even though the narration says you have to kill someone, you do not need to send in a kill tonight. All subsequent Nights I will need a PM from you with your kill selection two hours before the deadline.

Thank you!

Enjoy being evil!

~M.



Seer PM

That night you sleep very fitfully. Visions of the past flit through your mind, of great men of the past who were gifted with foresight. You find yourself able to see into the minds of those who sleep at night--well, one at least. You find you don't have the strength for any more.

Just to be clear: you are the seer. Please send a dream pick to me no later than two hours before the deadline, this night and every night.

Enjoy your visions!

~M.



Ranger PM

That night you sleep fitfully. It does not feel like anything magical per se; you're just very troubled by the prospect of this lady's death trap.

So you slip out of your room at night, and wander around the Cottage of Lost Play until you find the armories. You arm yourself, and resolve that each night you shall prevent one person from being the victim of a Wolf attack.

Just to make things absolutely clear: you are the Ranger. You do not need to send a name into me tonight because the wolves will not be killing any villagers; however, every night thereafter you may. You may not protect yourself, and you may not protect the same person two nights in a row. Please send your pick into me by two hours before the deadline at the latest.

Enjoy ranging!

~M.



Innocent PMs

You sleep through the night soundly.

You are an ordinary villager.

Good luck.

~M.



The M stood for Meássë, by the way, not Mnemosyne.

[Mnemosyne]

Night One
Dream: Fea

Day One
Lynch: Fea

Night Two
Dream: Nog
Save: McCaber
Kill:Boromir88

Day Two
Lynch: Inziladun, Shasta, Pitchwife

Night Three
Dream: Nessa Telrunya
Kill: McCaber

Day Three
Lynch: autume98, Nessa Telrunya, Eonwe

Night Four
Kill: Nerwen

Day Four
Lynch: Tie between Nogrod and Lalaith. Nog lost due to coin flip.

Number of houseguests vs. wolves were equal, so Lal automatically won.



Alternate death scenes will go up later.

[satansaloser2005]

That narration was phenomenal, Mnemosyne...I really feel haunted now.
Apologies to all for my vile behaviour. To Fea, for abandoning her...although she did say we should...but especially to Nogrod. I've felt like a worm these last few days, if it's any consolation...

*hugs you*

If it helps, I was cackling at your success most of the game. You did splendidly.



Special kudos to the following, if I may say so....


To Cabbie, for an excellent seer performance. It's hard to have to reveal, but you did wonderfully and were a real help to the village.
To Tum, for surviving through most of her first game and doing quite well.
To Rikae, for....well, just for driving me nuts on the last Day. ;)
To Nog, for having the....erm, you know what....to let that second triple lynch go through, even if it did end up having disastrous consequences.
To Pitchwife, mostly because you got royally ripped off despite doing really well.
To Fea, for taking her Fenris with as much dignity as possible. :p
To Lal, for an excellently played game. No joke, you were fabulous. Never doubt your wolfing skills again, my dear.
To everyone else for keeping the game entertaining and engaging. Well done all!

[satansaloser2005]

Mnemo, dear, your numbering seems to be off.

Day Two lynch was Dun, Shasta, and Pitch.
Day Three lynch was Steve, Tum, and Nessa.


Thanks for putting everything up; I missed a lot while gone, Night activity included.

[Nogrod]

but especially to Nogrod. I've felt like a worm these last few days, if it's any consolation...Heh, I finally took a closer look at that situation back on Day1 on the last Day and realised it was not such an easy situation for you - and that what you actually did was just resonable for a wolf... Sadly it was a bit too late then. Especially looking at how Rikae then tried to get herself off from this... :rolleyes:

But yes, no problem. It's a game and you outwitted us pure and simple. So congrats. Don't feel bad but enjoy! How about a toast? I have only some cheap red wine right now but anyway? To your health! :)

But this kind of bothered me:
In the event of a tie, for the first two ties only, both candidates will be killed. All ties thereafter will be determined by the flip of a coin.Now it may be my broken English - but looking how Rikae acted back there the last Day I'm not sure if I'm the only one who read this in a different way than was probably intended.

Now to me that looks like double-lynches (the first two ties) wil occur everytime but triple- / quadruple- / whatnots (all ties thereafter) will be decided by a coin. If Rikae knew her non-vote would result in a flip of a coin she would possibly have voted...

Okay, winning is not an issue here. That was a very enjoyable game; interesting twists and turns by us players, great narrations, mainly an active player-gallery etc. So much of fun. But the rules should be unequivocal anyway.

[Rikae]

Well, ok, it was in the rules and I forgot. Fair enough. But I still did not vote, and therefore, did not play a part in Nogrod's killing, nor choose Lalaith over him. I am not pleased with having my actions totally distorted, and that's all I have to say.

[Lalaith]

How about a toast? I have only some cheap red wine right now

Absolutely - skál! - , how about that...I happen to be drinking Sancerre....Sauvignon Blanc...I expect you're drinking the other kind....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sancerre_(wine) :smokin:

Seriously though....you were spot on about the flaws in my analysis....I was searching around for slip-ups from you and to your credit there were no credible ones at all.

[Inziladun]

It was indeed a great game. Mnemo obviously put a lot of effort into it, and I, for one, had an excellent time. You lot killed me early, but in my short time I managed to flush out the Seer and sowed enough confusion that an ordo and the Ranger went down with me. There were certainly worse ways to go. :p
Poor Fea, I'm convinced, is guilty until proven innocent as a general rule. What a fearsome reputation she must have!
Hats off to my illustrious packmates, especially Lalaith, who carried it all by herself to the end.
Cheers!

[Nogrod]

And by way of special thanks...

Lalaith - Just wonderful play! Your smooth nicety wouldn't have carried you that far but added with that ingenious Day1 vote you just marched to victory! Splendid! (letting my inner Brit out...)

Inzil - You were really good first-timer wolf! I said it at some stage that I was a bit worried with your general approval of whatever I did but I never got into it to kind of start suspecting you more than I did some others - or thought them less helpful than you... I should have of course. *kicks himself*

Pitchwife - A great performance as a first-timer! Sorry I awakened to really defend you a bit too late...

Autume - I hope you liked this. You did well to survive that long and next time you'll be much more ready to take action yourself as well. I'm looking forwards to see you again in these...

McCaber - Excellent choice on N1 and even if I was a bit dissapointed on D1 that you came forwards so early I now think it was the right thing to do. I do wonder though why you didn't tell us your next dream on D2 at some moment - or why you didn't vote in the end? I was counting on you to vote when I added the tie there as you said you were cool about it...

Rikae - Well what a mess we managed to create there in the end!

Nerwen - Thanks for delivering Inzil to us. I was just unable to do it at that time... I do admire your reasonableness every time.

Boro - It was really sad to see you go that early in the game!

And well everyone! It was a nice game, small, cosy but still eventful (I don't remember seeing two triple-lynches in one game lately...). Thanks all!

Mnemosyne - A nice concept, great setting and interesting narrations! Kudos! And thank's for miss. Sally as well (even if she is awaiting a charge in the UN soon... :D)


PS. Lalaith: I actually looked at French white wines form my nearest winestore yestreday to go with my onion soup at home but the cheapest Sancerre Sauvignon Blanc cost like 20 Euros a bottle (what is it, almost 30$)! :rolleyes:

[Rikae]

If Rikae knew her non-vote would result in a flip of a coin she would possibly have voted...


I would definitely have voted, and for Lalaith. :mad:

[Lalaith]

Rikae....for what's its worth...I think we wolves got a very lucky break with Eonwe's late vote...the coin flip was even luckier. I wasn't expecting to win at all that last day. (Or indeed from the moment Inzil died...you and Nogs both know what a hapless lone wolf I am...:rolleyes:)

[Nogrod]

I would definitely have voted, and for Lalaith. :mad:Look at the bright side of it: more kids (mine and yours) in the world for Summerhill upbringing pushed to the extreme: free from a lot of unhealthy parental advisory! :D:eek:

[satansaloser2005]

Look at the bright side of it: more kids (mine and yours) in the world for Summerhill upbringing pushed to the extreme: free from a lot of unhealthy parental advisory! :D:eek:


*snickers*


For what it's worth, when Rikae said she wasn't voting I thought I'd misread the rules, so I didn't think to clear it up for her because at that point I was busy writing a narration for the sudden unexpected not-tie. *headdesks* Either way, the three of you who were alive on the last Day were fantastic, and entertaining.

[Inziladun]

For what it's worth, my Day 2 vote was to have been Pitchwife, but Lalaith beat me to it, and I didn't want any obvious links between us. Shasta was my second choice.

[Lalaith]

I didn't want any obvious links between us

Both you and Fea were brilliant in that you left no traces or links to me at all, for which I am very grateful...

[Nogrod]

I think we wolves got a very lucky break with Eonwe's late vote...The whole dynamics of the game would have been pretty different indeed had Eönwë let his vote stand... Two wolves with two first lynches! (I think it has happened only twice before)

Well, then your "lonely wolf -skills" would have been tested Lalaith! ;)

[Inziladun]

The whole dynamics of the game would have been pretty different indeed had Eönwë let his vote stand... Two wolves with two first lynches! (I think it has happened only twice before)

I spent Day 2 building cases on innocents, with some apparent success, only to have Nerwen dash in out of nowhere and vote for me.
When I saw Eönwë's initial vote, I think I uttered a 'strong' word or two. :eek:

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I don't have much to say. I think Nogrod is a coward for saying things about me after he made sure I wasn't around to defend myself, though.

I'd say good game, but libel just makes me angry. I may show up again, I may not. It all depends.

[Lalaith]

Shasta, hon - steady on. Werewolf is a nasty game and it's not a good idea to take it too personally.
Look at me, I spent the last few days sucking up to Nogrod, then twisted his words horribly with the intent of killing him.
Luckily, he has forgiven me.
And you have the consolation of knowing that your excellent instincts did not foresake you, you named both Inzil and I as suspicious on day 2.

[Nogrod]

I think Nogrod is a coward for saying things about me after he made sure I wasn't around to defend myself, though.
Do you mean that if a U.S. resident makes a suspcious comment about an European in the last six hours of a Day - when the deadline is late-evening U.S. time - they are then cowards? Do you see where that principle would lead into? :)

But anyway, with that "making sure" and the libel-stuff and all I'll think I better PM you.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Both you and Fea were brilliant in that you left no traces or links to me at all, for which I am very grateful...

I was a brilliantly lost cause early, love. That's why I warned you both in my first PM not to bother tying yourself to me. And then I separated myself in-game from everybody else to avoid leaving tracks... Both wolves knew perfectly well I didn't expect to survive past Day 2.

But you all did well. It was a lovely last Day to watch.

It was a wonderful premise, Mnemo and Sally. I enjoyed it very much while it lasted.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

PS, hugs for everybody. Werewolf is a game that is based around lies and the manipulation of other people's words. While sometimes things can feel like a personal attack, we must remember that every player is expected to use opportunities to his or her advantage. It would be a hollow game if everybody bound themselves and refused to say or do anything that might offend.

If we can't remember that it is a game where we are expected to lie and cheat (within the limits of the rules, of course), then perhaps we shouldn't play it.

[Pitchwife]

Wow! That was a real nerve-ripper! Nog, Lalaith, Rikae - all three of you were simply glorious on Day4. I had as much fun watching you playing it out as I had playing myself, and was totally clueless until the last minute. (Goes to show that you should never trust somebody just because they have a cute avvie!)

Thanks and hats off to everybody else - it was an honour to play with you. And thanks, hats off and a deep bow to Meassyne and sally for making my first game an unforgettable classic!

Thanks for the laurels, too, though I'm not quite sure I deserve them. As some of you may have guessed, I was led astray by Eönwe's fake seer hint early on Day1 - not that I believed him to be the seer outright, but I couldn't rule out the possibility. McCaber's reveal surprised me out of my wits.
(It didn't help me in my confusion that by sheer newbie stupidity I had gotten my deadline all wrong and sent in a premature Save pick (Eönwe) before McCaber ever revealed. I clarified the matter with Mnemi, of course, and as I understood her at the time, she told me my pick would stand (as indeed I had told her it should, in my opinion). So I'm a little puzzled by the Save as it appears in Appendix B - another misunderstanding?)
On Day2, the sensible thing probably would have been to disregard the Eönwe question for now and trust McCaber more. Instead, I engaged Eönwe in a conversation on seer matters, curious if it would prompt a counter-reveal - but all it achieved was to make both of us appear suspicious and get myself lynched, leaving the true Seer unprotected. At least I had the brains to follow Boro's suspicions from Day1 and (thanks to Nerwen) get Inziladulf lynched with me!:D

Shasta, I understand your bitterness and agree that you've been treated somewhat unfairly in this game (sorry for such part as I had in this). On the other hand, if you'd only voted for Inzil with Nerwen and me instead of kicking Nogrod in your rage, both of us might have lived. But as the saying goes, no use crying over spilt blood... ;)

[Shastanis Althreduin]

No, Nogrod. I mean all that about "I voted Shasta because he wasn't participating as much as Inzil was", when the moddess's clear secondary goal was to tell a story. I don't care about accusations made against my role - that's part of the game. What I'm not okay with are implied slurs against my actual person.

[Rikae]

Well, the rules are the rules, and although of course I'm annoyed my plan didn't work, that's due to my own oversight. But I am still irked at being made to do things I didn't in the narration. It's just not good role-playing etiquette to make people behave differently than they did (especially in a game where we are supposed to play ourselves!) Several of us did something like that early in the game, when we assumed a body had been cut up that hadn't, and I'll certainly never do it again myself, now that I see how rotten it feels to try to act in one way only to have your actions changed to suit someone's plan. Hmph. I mean, ok, so Nog had to die - but I didn't vote for him (nor did I drink beer - wouldn't touch the stuff! :p)

I would still like to congratulate our wolves, who did play their part well - Lalaith, I don't know why you'd call yourself a hapless lone wolf - you had both Nog and I thoroughly confused (and when I saw Sally's first narration, I went "of course! Everyone is innocent - it figures!")

[Rikae]

Shasta, I don't know, the way I see it, lack of participation is a perfectly good reason to vote someone - first, because it might be a wolfish attempt to lie low, and also because the quieter (or less opinionated) the player the harder they are to read.

The one time I was lynched early on, it was because I decided to post nonsense and people found me impossible to read. Sure, I was annoyed, but reading people is, after all, much of the game.

[satansaloser2005]

Well, the rules are the rules, and although of course I'm annoyed my plan didn't work, that's due to my own oversight. But I am still irked at being made to do things I didn't in the narration. It's just not good role-playing etiquette to make people behave differently than they did (especially in a game where we are supposed to play ourselves!) Several of us did something like that early in the game, when we assumed a body had been cut up that hadn't, and I'll certainly never do it again myself, now that I see how rotten it feels to try to act in one way only to have your actions changed to suit someone's plan. Hmph. I mean, ok, so Nog had to die - but I didn't vote for him (nor did I drink beer - wouldn't touch the stuff! :p)

I would still like to congratulate our wolves, who did play their part well - Lalaith, I don't know why you'd call yourself a hapless lone wolf - you had both Nog and I thoroughly confused (and when I saw Sally's first narration, I went "of course! Everyone is innocent - it figures!")

Hehe. As you saw, in my original narration you didn't do anything to him, but I just tacked Mnemo's narration onto the end and tried to make you as reluctant a participant as possible. I'm sure she'll edit it if she sees fit, but she specifically requested I keep the Nog-chopping in the narration so I did. And who doesn't like beer? *waits for Menel to show up* Hehe. :p

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Shasta, I don't know, the way I see it, lack of participation is a perfectly good reason to vote someone - first, because it might be a wolfish attempt to lie low, and also because the quieter (or less opinionated) the player the harder they are to read.

The one time I was lynched early on, it was because I decided to post nonsense and people found me impossible to read. Sure, I was annoyed, but reading people is, after all, much of the game.

Day 1 was useless, so I added to the story. Day 2 I had some things to do. Nogrod made it sound (multiple times) as if I were deliberately not playing.

[Mnemosyne]

Rikae, the portion of the closing narration in which Nog died is by no means complete. Keep in mind that I wrote my part of it--the actual death--before the Day even began and I had no idea that it was going to end the way it did. Sally had started out with a better fusion of the two narrations but apparently lost it (right?) and so we ended up with the currently cobbled version. I'm sorry that it puts you in a position of responsibility and we can write that out. But I was not around to write the narration at the time so I couldn't make adjustments.

As far as the double-lynching rules went, I had expected that the village would not even let triple-lynches occur when I was writing the rules. When they started to become a reality, I lumped them in under the double-lynches and thought that that would be logical enough. Apparently it wasn't. But I did create rules that I stuck to, and applied them as best I could in stranger circumstances.

In the end, this was supposed to be a relatively hassle-free game in which people were supposed to have fun. The point was not so much one side winning over the other as it was to have a rippingly good yarn (which I still maintain this game was)--and really, the survivor got the worst fate if you ask me...

So... if anyone feels really distraught over the matter, all I can say is 1). I did my best under the circumstances, and 2). it's just a game.

3). If the tone of this thread becomes nasty because of anyone's perceived or actual wrongs, I will ask people take it to PM. I may have made mistakes but I had fun with this game and I don't want it to end with a sour taste.

Cordially yours,
Mnemosyne

[Nogrod]

All fun and fine! No problem (except the beginning of the discussion being postponed into this day... :))!

I mean it was an entertaining game - albeit a short one!

(And at least one PM has been sent already. Hope it settles things a bit.)

[Lalaith]

All fun and fine! No problem
Totally agree. The narrations were fantastic, especially.
Rikae, I hate beer too...but just look at all the stuff we "drank" over the course of this game, I don't think so much virtual alcohol has ever been consumed in a game of werewolf....

[satansaloser2005]

Totally agree. The narrations were fantastic, especially.
Rikae, I hate beer too...but just look at all the stuff we "drank" over the course of this game, I don't think so much virtual alcohol has ever been consumed in a game of werewolf....

Tehe. That's why I did it, actually; I figured we may as well stick to the apparent secondary theme. ;) Unfortunately, beer was the first thing that came to mind.

[Nogrod]

Unfortunately, beer was the first thing that came to mind.Like our hinting of our quite expensive tastes weren't obvious enough... :rolleyes:

(heh, expensive tastes when you don't have to pay for them for real...)

[Boromir88]

Well it's good Lalaith and Inzil, that you decided to take care of me early, because I am totally confused by all of this, and surely would not have allowed any of those triple-lynches. :rolleyes:

I think I will just say the role of moderator is continually gettng misunderstood. Don't take this as an attack Mnemo, your death narrations were very well written and it's not just this game).

I keep hearing don't get worked up it's only a game. Yes, it is a game, not an RPG. Of course I don't mind wanting to bring the story part of RPG to WW (if I remember correctly, it's been attempted before and I don't recall it working out as successfully). But I agree with Rikae, that WW is meant to be played out by the participants and it is the participants who determined the outcome. Speaking honestly, I'm tired of seeing Mod's interfere and tweak situations to get the outcome they want. This is not an attack against one person, or even a few people, just a general opinion lately I think the Moderator role in WW has been misunderstood and it's causing me to lose my love for...the game.

While we all must realize cheating, deceiving, harsh suspicions are part of the game, I don't think anyone will deny we can all get overboard. I often fear in my aggression, I get too rude (and on a few occasions I have been). So, just consider what Shasta's said. I think it's quite rude to tell someone 'Doesn't matter if you turn out innocent, you are not being any help, so it'll be better to get rid of you, than a wolf who is helping more.' That wasn't the exact wording, but that was the gist of what was said to Shasta, and well I don't blame him for his reaction.

In Brinn's game someone said I was stupid, and even if I knew the person met no harm by it (as I doubt any member means anything personal in what they say in a game) it still doesn't feel good to be called stupid (or unhelpful), and then on top of that lynched, when you're out there trying your best. (Plus, I just couldn't hold a grudge against someone who admittedly made a bad joke at the wrong time,when I am the king of bad jokes during inappropriate times. :p) Anyway, this is probably something best left to hammer out privately between Shasta and whoever feels it's necessary. :)

[Eönwë]

[QUOTE=Lalaith;604650what a hapless lone wolf I am...:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Hapless wolf? You won.

The Day 3 was so annoying for me, because I thought that there were already two votes for Nessa, and by the time I realised my mistake, it was too late, because I'd already posted and there were no retractions. So basically I thought I had caused a kamikaze triple-lynch. And then Nogrod decided not vote, and at that second I realised that the three of us were innocent. But it also seemed like an innocent mistake.

I think I should trust my instincts more though, because the whole time something in the back of my mind was screaming "Vote Lalaith! She's too clean, too perfect to be innocent!" And I didn't listen. I was mentally urging Nogrod to vote her the last Day, but she managed to win, and what a brilliant victory. Congratulations to Lalaith on her excellent game-play!

I would also like to congratulate Inziladun on his great performance as a reasonable wolf, Nogrod on his long, analytical post (and his unapreciated long posts), Pitchwife for his great rangering (even of he did die a little early- and sorry for making you seem suspicious of the others), and to everyone who played this game and made it fun!

And of course, thank you to Mnemosyne (or should that be Meássë) for coming up with the idea and letting her play in this great game!

:D

[Hakon]

Now that the game is over I can finally share my thoughts as I read it. Originally I thought McCaber was a wolf as well as Nogrod and I thought Eonwe was the real seer. I knew Pitchwife was the ranger from the start, just a hunch that was right. I then began to suspect Nessa after Inziladun's death. After McCaber was killed I thought the remaining wolf was Eonwe. I think it was before Eonwe's death but someone pointed out Laliath was getting everyone liquored up. That made me think she was the final wolf and I was right. Inziladun congrats on being the only wolf who fooled me till your death in the game.

[Inziladun]

Inziladun congrats on being the only wolf who fooled me till your death in the game.

Too bad I couldn't fool Nerwen. :rolleyes:
But thanks for the compliment! And you also, Eönwë!

[autume98]

I was thinking the same thing. I was going to vote Lalaith and then ended up voting Nessa.


I think I should trust my instincts more though, because the whole time something in the back of my mind was screaming "Vote Lalaith! She's too clean, too perfect to be innocent!"

Thank you all for a GREAT game! I enjoyed myself. I'm looking forward to the next game. It was a pleasure playing with each and every one of you. :)

[Nerwen]

No, Nogrod. I mean all that about "I voted Shasta because he wasn't participating as much as Inzil was", when the moddess's clear secondary goal was to tell a story. I don't care about accusations made against my role - that's part of the game. What I'm not okay with are implied slurs against my actual person.

Look, it wasn't really you, Shasta: Zil did a rather brilliant job of framing you.

[Lalaith]

Hapless wolf? You won.


I was referring to the DW game which Nogrod modded and Rikae, as EW, turned me evil at the last minute. I managed to blunder from a situation where I was most trusted player, to getting myself lynched, in the course of just two Days.

[Lalaith]

If anyone's interested. I don't have the PMs from Nights one and two, but have tried to paraphrase them from memory. Much of this is, for obvious reasons, just my own thoughts to myself.

Night one…we three PM. Sadly I didn’t keep any PMs but maybe someone else did…anyway we chat a bit and Fea warns us that (I think I have the phrasing right) “a skinny piece of lynchbait” like her good self should be left alone by the rest of us.
Day one – I am convinced Boro is the Seer. Why? He refers obliquely to the werePenguin game, where I was the Seer who dreamt of him as a wolf the first night. I thought he was hinting that the roles were now reversed, that he had dreamt of me. Got me very worried.
I am enjoying Fea’s inner monologue and Inzil’s reasonable helpfulness. Inzil goes for McCaber and Fea for Nessa ..when Fea starts picking up a couple of votes, I am not unduly worried for her…there are after all lots more people to vote and remembering her warning I chuck Shasta into the mix as a distraction thinking it might spread things even more. Then McCaber reveals (NEVER suspected you were the Seer so well done there) and I realise Fea is a goner anyway.

Night two…Inzil and I talk, mainly about who to kill the next day. We are sad to lose Fea but pleased that Inzil forced the Seer to reveal…We assume the Ranger will protect McCaber so we decide on Boro, mainly through my instigation – Inzil suggests Nogrod I think. Both feared players. Inzil is worried that killing Boro will implicate him, perhaps in retrospect he was right. I was really not expecting Inzil to be in danger that Day…as far as I could see he was playing really well. Our secondary kill motives were to find the Ranger and also kill the subject of McCaber’s dream.
Day Two
I was only around for half of it and focused on analysing Fea (a safe task since she had cleverly left no trails) and picking up on the Pitchwife/Eonwe interaction – which I truthfully didn’t understand at the time but now has an explanation – all is clear! I would have tried to save Inzil in the triple lynch chaos, had there been time. Inzil I know from post-game PMs was sad to die but pleased that he took the Ranger down with him. I was dismayed that my last brave pack-mate died, but very pleased that the Ranger was taken out…that pesky Ranger was my downfall last time I had to play lone wolf.
Night Three
Well this was a no-brainer...and luckily the Ranger was dead even if he had pulled a double-bluff and not protected McCaber the previous Night.
Day Three.
This I think was my favourite day, even though RL took me away again for half the Day – I enjoyed the virtual Friday night Mojito session with Nogrod, and the way that everyone was so willing to narrow suspects down to three. I never expected Nogrod to pull a triple lynch though, my jaw dropped when I saw the thread on my return…
Night Four
Nogrod clearly had to be kept alive after that, I thought he would be seen as suspicious by the other innocent. Nerwen was the most obvious kill to me out of the three remaining innocents – she would automatically have been trusted by the other innocent. Perhaps in retrospect I could have persuaded her to vote Nogrod but it seemed too risky.
Day Four
Well, you all saw what went on. It was horribly nerve-wracking. Rikae and Nogrod were arguing so intensely – with Rikae back up to her full power, it was Greek meets Greek, and I felt totally outclassed. I made myself late for work trying to frame a convincing case against Nogrod and frankly failing. I didn’t think I could win, even when Rikae said she was going to vote for Nogrod. Then about an hour before DL I had a family visitor and had to vote…although frankly I was ready to go for it anyway, just to put myself out of my misery.
Thanks again for a great game, Mnemosyne and Sally - a brilliant 'murder mystery' concept and it was good to get a rare chance to play...

[McCaber]

Lost on a coin flip. I cannot believe that.

Ah well. I found one by luck. Fea, thanks for being the player who scared me the most. I wanted to vote for Inzil on Day2, but I had to make sure that Nog wasn't lynched and when he was finally safe I was out of time to vote.

[Nogrod]

Btw. sorry about that triple lynch Autume, Nessa and Eönwë! ;)

It was indeed a decision made in 30 seconds or something. I just saw Eönwë's last minute vote and suddenly came up with what looked like a brilliant scenario - getting all you who looked suspicious to me at one sweep thus letting the four of us I didn't suspect alive from the madhouse... Well, how wrong can one be? :rolleyes:

So sorry.

[McCaber]

Also, this was my first try as a seer. I was flushed out extremely early, but I think I did a pretty decent job anyways.

[Nessa Telrunya]

It was a great game everyone! As a first-timer, I was a little nervous, but I think I"m hooked now. :D

[Mnemosyne]

If I put it here I'll feel better about revising the actual one tomorrow.


"I can't believe it was so obvious," said Rikae. "You've been behind everything, haven't you? Always trying to take charge of the situation. Eönwë didn't let that first triple-kill happen on purpose. You did."

"And gunning after poor Shasta like that!" said Lalaith. "I'd say your plans have gone wrong, only I don't think that's the case, is it, Nog? I'd say they're right on schedule."

The two women looked at each other.

"We don't have to just kill you, you know," said Lalaith. "If you could admit to it first..."

"What is there to admit?" said Nogrod. "I may be a fool, but I'm not evil! It's one of you!"

"Please," said Rikae. "If you let us know it'll make us feel a lot better about doing this."

"One of you," said Nog, "one of you is dooming yourself with this."

"On the contrary," said Rikae, "I think we're saving ourselves."

"Tell us," said Lalaith. She put one of his eyes out.

"What are you doing?" said Rikae. Lalaith shook her head, closing her eyes to let the tears out. There was blood on her hand. "He isn't putting up a fight. He won't. He thinks he'll be able to strike at our conscience that way, by not fighting. But if he's hurt, he'll get angry, transform--we can fight him, and he'll already be weakened that way." She looked down at Nogrod, who was clutching at his eye. She put the other one out.

"Why isn't he fighting back yet?" said Rikae.

"I don't know. Help me."

"How?"

"The hand."

Rikae picked up a nearby knife and cut it off. "He's still not doing anything! Why isn't he doing anything?" She cut off his other hand.

"Not... me..." Nogrod gasped.

"Liar!" said Lalaith. She cut off a foot.

"I'm telling you," said Nogrod.

"Liar!" She cut off the other foot.

"...What if he isn't?" said Rikae.

"He has to be. He's the last wolf!" Lalaith paused. "And if he isn't, then we've--I've--just done a foolish thing. We may as well put him out of his misery." She handed the knife hilt to Rikae. Their bloodstained hands met, and together they plunged the hilt into Nogrod's neck and severed his head. Panting, they backed away from the scene of terror.

"He hasn't transformed," said Lalaith.

"Maybe he didn't have time? Have you checked the door?"

They ran down and tried to open it; it was still locked.

"I can't believe it," said Rikae. "He was just a fool--an innocent fool. Which means the last werewolf..."

"...is one of us..."

Lalaith and Rikae stared at one another, each too nervous to take her eyes off the other's face.

[Mnemosyne]

"It's her," said Nogrod. "It has to be her."

Lalaith licked her lips and nodded. "Right. I don't think those helpful trees are going to come back, so..."

"Yeah."

"We'll do it together."

"Please," said Rikae, "it wasn't me! This is it--kill me and the wolves will win!"

"I don't think so," said Lalaith. "Hmm, do you think we could find the Sammath Naur from here?"

"That sounds like a good idea," said Nogrod. "At Mount Doom doom will fall." Binding Rikae's hands behind her, they began to walk through the house, hoping to find a suitable place of execution.

"I think I see it up ahead!" said Nogrod.

"No!" cried Rikae. Twisting out of Lalaith's grasp, she began to run toward the forest nearby.

"Stop her!" yelled Lalaith.

In a fluid motion Nogrod picked up a spear that was lying at the wayside and hurled it at her. Just as Rikae turned to look back, it struck her and pinned her to a tree. She looked down in shock at the blood that bloomed out from the wound. "Tell Macalaurë that Rikae is here," she said before she died.

"She didn't transform," said Lalaith.

"She must not have been the last wolf!" said Nogrod.

"So the last one must be one of us..."

Nogrod and Lalaith stared at one another, each too nervous to look away from the other's face.

[Mnemosyne]

"All right," said Nogrod. "Lal's the last wolf. Let's do this."

"Really," said Rikae, "I don't know how I feel about that. All this killing at close quarters..."

"Well, I doubt the trees are coming back. But we should be able to find some fairly humane way."

"Gondolin?" said Rikae. "She is a traitor..."

"No, she isn't," said Nogrod. "She was just cursed to be on the wrong side. Let's find Gondolin."

"What if I don't want to go to Gondolin?" said Lalaith. "What if I'm actually innocent and my death dooms you?"

"Are you?" said Rikae.

"Yes!"

"Well," said Nogrod heavily, "if your death dooms us, then so be it."

"All right," said Lalaith. "As long as you know what you're in for. Do I get a last drink?"

Nog smiled. "I'm sure I'll find you something..."

The ascent to Gondolin was difficult, but in the end they found a suitable place for execution. "Right," said Rikae. "Now, if we can manage to fling her so that her head strikes first--"

"I beg your pardon!" said Lalaith. "I am still alive at this point, I'll have you know. Cast me off any way you like."

"As you wish," said Nogrod, and they flung her over the side. Her body struck the cliff three times as it fell.

Rikae peered down after her. "Poor thing," she said. "Wait... she never transformed!"

"She must not have been the last wolf!" said Nogrod.

"So the last one must be one of us..."

Nogrod and Rikae stared at one another, each too nervous to look away from the other's face.



Afterwards I think I was planning on Lal climbing back up the cliff and there being another last-minute showdown before Measse zapped her with a bolt of divine lightning so that the rules of the game would be fulfilled. But it did not quite get there, did it?

[Nogrod]

Nice narrations!

But as echoing slightly some things Rikae and Boro have said already, I think there is a problem in early written narrations. And that is not a problem of quality of writing but how it relates to what happened in the game.

At least to me it is always fun to read narations that actually mirror things that happened during the Day and how people actually related to each other in the game - and when I mod a game myself I try to stick as closely I can to real suspicions and votes - and the ways they were made. So if someone is reluctant to kill someone that will be shown in the narration; or when certain people vote for the succesful lynch they are also the ones to do it in the narration etc.

To me, it's kind of mod's skill-requirement to catch the air of the Day and to turn it into a narrative - which of course shouldn't reveal anything.

But I know some others have differing views about the matter. Why not make a few comments on the issue here now as it has been brought forwards?

[Mnemosyne]

You are, of course, absolutely right. Maybe the better option would have been to let Sally do the last narration (as she actually did at first) but then we wouldn't have been able to put in all of the bookish references.

Other than that, I would have had to write the narration after 20 hours of travel spread out over two days, after reading up on an entire Day's events, which was something I was not prepared to do (plus the narration would have come in WAY late). It was easier at the time to come up with some things in advance.

But the more I read over your death, Nog, the more I dislike it, specifically because of how it doesn't reflect the day's events. I'll let everyone know when I've fixed it up.

And honestly I would not have had this problem if it weren't for sudden unexpected occurrences in my real life situation which necessitated the 20 hours of travel. *sigh*

[Nogrod]

Don't be too hard on yourself Mnemo... RL surely intervenes every once in a while and you did spectacularly.

I was using some comments made of this game only to refer to a more wider issue about ww-narrations in general. I mean I know there are actually two "schools" on this: those who want to follow the events in the game loyally (even to the extent that they use actual quotations from the game in the narrations) and those who have literary - or other - ideas and then fill in the players as they see fit - if they see them fit. (And I have probably done both as a mod even if I'd say I mainly belong to the first "school".)

That was actually the issue I wished to stir some discussion over but seemingly it's a turn-off subject. :confused: :)

[Mnemosyne]

Don't be too hard on yourself Mnemo... RL surely intervenes every once in a while and you did spectacularly.



Ah, but I'm a perfectionist fanfic writer so of course I'm going to focus on the literary merits of narrations, especially my own. *grin*

When you put it the way you did (the schools of thought) I'm not sure where I'd fall. As a writer I do like having more control over the situation but you can't control people or their actions.

I'd like to see more talk on the subject as well but currently it looks as if all eyes are on the new game--which is as it should be!

[Pitchwife]

Originally I thought McCaber was a wolf as well as Nogrod and I thought Eonwe was the real seer.
I made the same mistake. My worst nightmare was a McCabwolf as fake Seer with a Nogwolf supporting him.
McCaber, sorry for doubting you and leaving you in the lurch! You did a great job, giving us a wolf on Day1 with that courageous reveal. By the end of Day2, I had finally made up my mind to trust and protect you, but I never got the chance.
Eönwe, no need to worry! (Same to the people who got me lynched, by the way.) I was relieved to see you were innocent.
And Inzil - nice wolfing! Your efforts to frame Shasta were quite convincing for a while (as my own voting on Day1 testifies), but when I looked closer at the ongoing quarrel between the two of you, the truth began to dawn on me. And I owe a lot to Boro, who saw through you from very early on.
(Looking back, that little scene between Boro, Fea and you was priceless - an innocent telling a wolf to watch another wolf!:D)

[Nerwen]

And Inzil - nice wolfing! Your efforts to frame Shasta were quite convincing for a while (as my own voting on Day1 testifies), but when I looked closer at the ongoing quarrel between the two of you, the truth began to dawn on me. And I owe a lot to Boro, who saw through you from very early on.

And I in turn owe a lot to you, Pitchwife, for helping crystallise my doubts about Inzi. (Of course I wasn't too sure about you, either– being thought suspicious is an occupational hazard of gifteds.)

[Boromir88]

(Looking back, that little scene between Boro, Fea and you was priceless - an innocent telling a wolf to watch another wolf!)~Pitchwife
Haha, it was ironic and I didn't chat it up with her because I believed she was innocent. I was feeling more neutral towards her...I feel terrible for wolf-Fea, because usually by day 2, she's got a guaranteed mark and it's nearly impossible to escape. That is more of a testament to Fea's destructive abilities, and bringing chaos as a wolf to whatever she touches. Usually if I'm a wolf, and dreamed of early, the seer at least gives me a couple days to play around and have fun, as long as I'm not too much trouble. It's almost like...'Here's your toy Boro, go play in the corner, I'll let everyone know who you are in a couple days.' :p Except Lommy's game when I became a Fenris Penguin, if I recall nasty Lalaith outed me so early. :p

[Inziladun]

The vexing thing for me is this: Nerwen became suspicious of me because of Pitchwife, who in turn was watching me because of the interactions between Boro and me. Boro was basically hitting out at me not with any certainty that I was a wolf, but just to see how I'd react. :rolleyes:
So I end up going down in the end because Boro did a little preliminary 'feeling things out' the first Day. Just goes to show how small things can lead to big ones.

[Inziladun]

By the way, Lalaith, I didn't save the PM's, but I believe 'skinny piece of lynch-bait' was Fea's precise phrasing. :)

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

By the way, Lalaith, I didn't save the PM's, but I believe 'skinny piece of lynch-bait' was Fea's precise phrasing. :)

It was. I don't know how I earned this fearsome reputation. :cool:

[satansaloser2005]

It was. I don't know how I earned this fearsome reputation. :cool:

Can't think why myself, (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=571936&postcount=568) darling. :Merisu:

[Nogrod]

So I end up going down in the end because Boro did a little preliminary 'feeling things out' the first Day. Just goes to show how small things can lead to big ones.And that's the beauty of this game - well one part of it.

I mean if there was a calculus or a "proven procedure" to catch the wolves every time, who would play this time and time again? (I'm not brave enough to count how many games I have played) :rolleyes:

Just think of how many individual decisions this game is the result of! And I do not mean decisions like voting, but deciding to probe something, comenting on someone's probing, making a comment and then deleting it before posting as it looked not so good, choosing to check thing X in place of Y, player Z being online at the same time and you having certain conversation which brings to your mind a point... with 15-20 players the variables are just mind-boggling!

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Can't think why myself, (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=571936&postcount=568) darling. :Merisu:

Naughty, naughty, Miss Sally. If only reality was anywhere near what my reputation suggests...

[satansaloser2005]

Where's phantom when you need him? ;)


Fine, no gorgeous assistant (no phantom either) to make jokes for me, so I'll just go with "so much to say, so little of it appropriate". :Merisu:


In other news, I was really ticked to check the Downs while I was at camp and see that Fea had been Fenris'd. Ya feckless pack of ingrates, how do you expect to have fun without Fea? :p

[autume98]

Btw. sorry about that triple lynch Autume, Nessa and Eönwë! ;)

It was indeed a decision made in 30 seconds or something. I just saw Eönwë's last minute vote and suddenly came up with what looked like a brilliant scenario - getting all you who looked suspicious to me at one sweep thus letting the four of us I didn't suspect alive from the madhouse... Well, how wrong can one be? :rolleyes:

So sorry.
Are you kidding!? And miss out on that exciting ending! It was a good strategy. Besides, I had a GREAT time.


It was a great game everyone! As a first-timer, I was a little nervous, but I think I"m hooked now. :D
I feel EXACTLY the same way Nessa!

[Mnemosyne]

The narrations are fixed. Nog's death has been overhauled (sorry, sally) and Rikae's slightly adapted. I even managed a nice coin flip.

I understand everyone but me has moved on from this game but I'd still like you all to take a look at the fixed deaths here (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=604557&postcount=347) and here (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=604627&postcount=348).

[Inziladun]

I understand everyone but me has moved on from this game but I'd still like you all to take a look at the fixed deaths

Moved on, yes. Forgotten, no. I'm still most impressed with the manner of my death. If a wolf has to go down, there's no better way to do it. ;)