Phantasy Football: Arda Cup 2010

[the phantom]

Welcome to the Phantasy Team Competition! :)

Before I list the rules for this year's competition, we need to take care of one team's roster. Specifically- The Barrow-Downs!

As co-mods, Phantom, Nogrod, and Skip are already on the team (favoritism, I know :p), but there are several slots still open. (Boro is a co-mod too, but he elected to be Arda Cup President and Head-Ref rather than a "mere player".)

So, it is time to take nominations and second/third/fourth others who are nominated. If a Downer receives four nods I will automatically place him/her on the team, and if eight members don't reach that point I will take the eight with the most support.

And please don't nominate too many people, or vote for too many people. Keep it limited (at the start especially) to give others a chance to put someone forward.

I'll get things rolling by nominating-
EomerWarg (since Eomer so very much wanted to see wargs playing in the tournament, I figure we can make him a WereWarg player)

The Barrow-Downs
-GK-
-DF-
-DF-
-DF-
-DF- Skip Spence
-MF-
-MF-
-MF-
-MF- The Phantom
-FW-
-FW- Nogrod

[Nerwen]

I'll second EomerWarg and nominate Feawolf, Gwathwolf and Mithwolf.

[wilwarin538]

I'll second Fea, and nominate TGEW and Glirdan.

[Boromir88]

I'll second EomerWarg and nominate Feawolf, Gwathwolf and Mithwolf.

I think aside from EomerWarg the 'Downer team this year will be taking human forms to go with a less aggressive style of play. ;)

I third Eomer, second Gwath, and nominate Lari and Mira.

[the phantom]

I will second Mira, Lari, and Glirdan if anyone can recruit them to play in the Phantasy tournament. :)

[Nogrod]

I would firstly and foremostly first and second all those who take part in the game.

[the phantom]

I've received a message informing me that Mira and Lari will be playing, so... seconded.

[Loslote]

Hakon says he's playing and he's too lazy to get in here and tell you all himself. He also told me I'm playing, but since I don't know anything at all about soccer...:rolleyes:

[Nerwen]

Well, Mith has just informed me that she doesn't want to play (even in human form), so I'll nominate Loslote here instead.

Any objections, Lottie?

[Loslote]

Well, Mith has just informed me that she doesn't want to play (even in human form), so I'll nominate Loslote here instead.

Any objections, Lottie?

So long as I don't have to know anything about what's supposed to be going on...

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Oh, thank'ee all. :) We do need some sort of Wargish spirit if we want to win this trophy.

I nominate davem - we can't be all ferocity, we need some brains in that midfield too! Who's with me?

I will certainly try to take part again. My efforts in previous competitions have been woeful. Must do better.

[the phantom]

Since he's playing, and it would amuse me to see his invented name on the roster-
++Steve (aka Eonwe)

Eomerwarg- 3
Fea- 2
Gwath- 2
Lari- 2
Mira- 2
Davem
Glirdan
Lottie
Steve
TGEW

[satansaloser2005]

Well I've been informed (sort of) by Prince Philip himself that I'm playing. Heh.



I'll third Fea and second Steve, as well as nominating Rikae and Brinniel.

[Boromir88]

With the condition they can have joint custody of a team, to help eachother out, Fea and Nienna are in.

So, lets fourth EomerWarg and Fea to start filling the team up eh?

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

The other conditions, which B failed to mention, are that I expect unrivaled fan support and blatant favoritism.

[TPotSS]

I'd like to fourth Fea and cement her place, because I've always looked up to her and even though I'm not very active, I tend to idolize anything she says or does when I am here.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

While that's the kind of adoration I was looking for, I think you miscounted, Teapot.

[Glirdan]

So Boro has asked me to get in on this and I totally would if my schedule allows it. But sadly, I am not sure what my schedule will be like next week and after that, I'm in "show mode" as I like to call it. In other words, the show I am in opens in just under two weeks time and my life will pretty much be dedicated to that. But I'll think about it and let everyone know by Tuesday night.

[the phantom]

I second Lottie and third Gwath.

The Barrow-Downs
-GK- Eomerwarg
-DF- Fea
-DF-
-DF-
-DF- Skip Spence
-MF-
-MF-
-MF-
-MF- The Phantom
-FW-
-FW- Nogrod

****************
Gwath- 3
Lari- 2
Lottie- 2
Mira- 2
Steve- 2
Brin
Davem
Glirdan
Rikae
TGEW

[wilwarin538]

Well I've been informed (sort of) by Prince Philip himself that I'm playing. Heh.


heh heh. You should be careful about using that name, you don't want to inflate his ego or anything. ;)


I'll fourth Gwath and third Steve.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I'll fourth Steve and third Stick.

[the phantom]

THE BARROW-DOWNS
-GK- Eomerwarg
-DF- Fea
-DF- Gwath
-DF- Steve
-DF- Skip Spence
-MF-
-MF-
-MF-
-MF- The Phantom
-FW-
-FW- Nogrod

****************
Mira- 3
Lari- 2
Lottie- 2
Brin
Davem
Glirdan
Rikae
TGEW

[satansaloser2005]

Mira^4

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Why am I automatically defense? I mean, if I was actually playing I'd way rather be midfield or forward. Just sayin'...

[Boromir88]

Or you'll take the spot on defense and you'll like it? Just sayin'

[the phantom]

Only three slots open now, people. Almost done!

THE BARROW-DOWNS
-GK- Eomerwarg
-DF- Mira
-DF- Gwath
-DF- Steve
-DF- Skip Spence
-MF- Fea
-MF-
-MF-
-MF- The Phantom
-FW-
-FW- Nogrod

****************
Lari- 2
Lottie- 2
Brin
Davem
Glirdan
Rikae
TGEW

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

-MF- Fea

Love you, too, darling.

[Nogrod]

I'd still like to back those who are going to play the game as well... so who is?

[wilwarin538]

I'd still like to back those who are going to play the game as well... so who is?

*raises hand*

[Boromir88]

I'd still like to back those who are going to play the game as well... so who is?

Of those nominated/seconded (who I'm aware of) Lari and Lottie. TGEW played last year, but I haven't heard if she will this year?

Apparently Hakon, wilwa and sally are in too, but are not nominated as of yet. :D

[the phantom]

TGEW won't be playing this year. Glirdan hasn't decided yet, so that's why I didn't second him. I've already seconded Lari and Lottie.

So, I suppose I'll go ahead and nominate...

Hakon, Nerwen, Sally, & Wilwa

THE BARROW-DOWNS
-GK- Eomerwarg
-DF- Mira
-DF- Gwath
-DF- Steve
-DF- Skip Spence
-MF- Fea
-MF-
-MF-
-MF- The Phantom
-FW-
-FW- Nogrod

****************
Lari- 2
Lottie- 2
Brin
Davem
Glirdan
Hakon
Nerwen
Rikae
Sally
TGEW
Wilwa

[satansaloser2005]

I'll second Nerwen. :)

[Eönwë]

I'll second Wilwa and Sally.

[Glirdan]

Bah, okay, I'll play I guess. See if I can find a way to fit it into my already hectic schedule.

[the phantom]

All right then, I'll second Glirdan.

THE BARROW-DOWNS
-GK- Eomerwarg
-DF- Mira
-DF- Gwath
-DF- Steve
-DF- Skip Spence
-MF- Fea
-MF-
-MF-
-MF- The Phantom
-FW-
-FW- Nogrod

****************
Glirdan- 2
Lari- 2
Lottie- 2
Nerwen- 2
Sally- 2
Wilwa- 2
Brin
Davem
Hakon
Rikae
TGEW

[Loslote]

I will third Sally, Nerwen, and Wilwa. :)

[Boromir88]

I will third Sally, Nerwen, and Wilwa. :)

If there are no objections, they're all fourth...ed and we can get this thing moving. :D

[the phantom]

All right then- the roster is all set! :)

THE BARROW-DOWNS
-GK- Eomerwarg
-DF- Mira
-DF- Gwath
-DF- Steve
-DF- Skip Spence
-MF- Fea
-MF- Nerwen
-MF- Sally
-MF- The Phantom
-FW- Wilwa
-FW- Nogrod

I will be posting the complete rosters for all 32 teams tomorrow (posted on this thread), and friendly matches will begin tomorrow or the day after (posted on the game thread). The competition rules will be posted on this thread immediately before the rosters. Once the rosters are up you can begin selecting your team and making pre-tournament predictions, but there's no hurry. You have plenty of time. That's one reason we started nice and early this year- ample opportunity to bring in competitors (it's not too late to join, tell your friends!), a large window in which to set up your team and make predictions, and once the tournament starts you should again have plenty of time to make decisions between rounds.

[Nogrod]

What a solid and tough team the Barrow-Downs seems to have! They can't lose!

[wilwarin538]

Excited to get started!

Get's out her special ball:

http://soccer.epicsports.com/images/10504/155/vizari-pink-butterfly-soccer-balls-91212.jpg

:Merisu:

[the phantom]

Welcome to the Phantasy Team Competition! :)

If you have any questions regarding any of these rules, just ask. I promise you it's not as complicated as it may look at first glance- just ask the players from last year.

You will select your team members from the rosters available in my next post, and will be awarded points according to how your players fare in their tournament games. Please put a bolded -> C after one of your players. That means that player is your team captain, and will gain (or lose) double point value.

You must have one GK (goal keeper) and then you can use one of the following formations found below. (Formations listed as DF-MF-FW)

5-4-1
4-5-1
3-6-1
4-4-2
4-3-3


In other words, if you choose 4-4-2, then you want to place 4 defenders, 4 midfielders, and 2 fowards on your team along with the goalie of your choice.

In addition, you may not choose more than 3 players from one single team.

Rules for gaining points are as follows.

Goal by FW- 4 pts
Goal by MF- 5 pts
Goal by DF- 6 pts
Assist- 3 pts
Shutout, GK- 4 pts
Shutout, DF- 4 pts
Shutout, MF- 1 pt
Allows 1 goal, GK- 2 pts
Allows 1 goal, DF- 2 pts
3 GK saves- 2 pts
Yellow Card- -1 pts
Red Card- -3 pts


And just like last time you can gain extra points for pretourney and playoff predictions! :)

Once again we're going to have a star system for drafting your team. Players with a star are considered by Arda Kicker Magazine to be solid players with a higher liklihood of scoring than other players at that position. Players with 2 stars are the cream of the crop, and are the most likely to gain points at the position. The team an individual plays on and his/her name recognition can contribute slightly to star status. And of course, there is no guarantee that star players will score more. It's just more likely.

The team that you select may not exceed FOUR total stars at this time. (This number will increase as the rounds go by.)

Note on the rosters- If MFs or DFs are listed lower down the roster (towards the FWs), then they are more likely to find themselves involved in the offense than those MFs or DFs listed higher up towards the GK. Of course, there is no guarantee MFs listed closer to FWs will score more, but their chances are generally better.

Note on trades- After the first two rounds of group play, you can draft a completely new team. Unlimited trades. After the third and final round of group play, you are allowed seven trades. After the first playoff round, you are allowed only three trades. After the quarterfinals and semifinals you are allowed only two trades. Do not under any circumstances edit your old teams once play has started. If you want to trade someone, make a new post stating the trade and list your new team.

All right- here are the predictions that can gain you bonus points at the end of the tournament. They can make a huge difference in your point total if you happen to hit them!

10 POINT QUESTIONS

Who will score the most goals in the tournament?

Who will have the most assists in the tournament?

Which team will win the tournament?

5 POINT QUESTIONS

Which goalkeeper will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?

Which defender will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?

Which midfielder will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?

Which forward will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?

GROUP PREDICTIONS

Predict the winner and runner up from each of the eight groups. Predicting the winner is worth 3 points. The runner up is worth 1. If you select the correct two teams but have their positions reversed, you will be awarded 2 points. So that's a possible thirty-two points right there. Don't skip this!

PLAYOFF POINTS

During the playoffs you will be able to gain points for correct predictions, but obviously you can't do anything with that until much later. I'll remind everyone when it is time.

[the phantom]

AMAN
-GK- Nienna
-DF- Vaire
-DF- Este
-DF- Nessa
*DF- Turgon
-MF- Irmo
-MF- Nahar
-MF- Earwen
*MF- Orome
-MF- Finarfin
-FW- Ar Pharazon

A mix of Ainu and Elves here, with a horse and man thrown in. Everyone is interested to see what Ar Pharazon will bring to the blessed realm following his championship success last year. He will be teamed with some good talent up front, but the team focus will be on defense for the most part.

BARAD-DUR
-GK- Mouth
-DF- Ohtar
-DF- Nazgul #5
-DF- Anarion
*DF- Nazgul #6
-MF- Fellbeast
-MF- Nazgul #7
-MF- Elendil
*MF- Gil-Galad
**FW- Sauron
-FW- Isildur

After helping bring the Arda Cup to Numenor last year, Sauron looks to deliver the same for his famed fortress. There to help him are several who fought against him in the second age, along with a few of his loyal minions. An unexpected blend certainly, but Sauron has already demonstrated his willingness to work with others in order to obtain football glory, and his followers will fall in line. Barad-Dur will likely play with a straight-forward style- balanced between offense and defense.

BARROW-DOWNS
-GK- Eomerwarg
-DF- Mira
-DF- Gwath
-DF- Steve
-DF- Skip Spence
-MF- Fea
-MF- Nerwen
-MF- Sally
-MF- The Phantom
-FW- Wilwa
-FW- Nogrod

After strong showings the past two years under the name Tol-In-Gaurhoth, the Barrow-Downs looks to take the next step towards the championship. Since their over-aggressive style got them into trouble in the past, look for them to go with a more balanced approach this time around. Helping this new mindset is the fact that they will not be playing as Werewolves, as well as actually getting in a couple of practices before the tournament begins.

BELERIAND
-GK- Halmir
-DF- Mim
-DF- Handir
-DF- Baragund
-DF- Belegund
-MF- Magor
-MF- Hathol
-MF- Manthor
-MF- Imlach
-MF- Bregolas
-FW- Marach

Coming from various teams throughout Beleriand, this group primarily from the ruling houses of the Edain has come together as one. Beleriand will lean on a quality possession game, and Captain Marach says that when they don’t have the ball their lockdown defensive style will be tough to handle.

BREELAND
-GK- Old Man Willow
-DF- Butterbur
-DF- Lumpkin
-DF- River-Woman
-DF- Roheryn
-MF- Harry
-MF- Goldberry
-MF- Halbarad
-FW- Barrow-Wight
*FW- Bombadil
-FW- Strider

Breeland is hoping to break through this year after adding a couple of rangers to their offense and a horse and pony to their back line. Also, naming Strider as the new captain will probably improve their preseason training, as old captain Bombadil was rather absent minded about that sort of thing. Look for them to employ their tactic of attacking at all times, with Strider likely to make the Bombadil-BW duo more potent by drawing some attention onto himself, or scoring himself if he is ignored.

BYWATER
-GK- Cotton
-DF- Nazgul #3
-DF- Ferny
-DF- Nazgul #2
**DF- Shadowfax
-MF- Fatty
-MF- Maggot
-MF- Gildor
**MF- Gandalf
-FW- Saruman
-FW- Bandobras

Don’t overlook the Shire this year, as the team they’re sending from Bywater features two wizards, two Nazgul, Shadowfax, and an assortment of sturdy hobbits. As usual, hobbits are legally allowed a maximum of two liters of ent-draught leading up to the Arda Cup, and Gandalf has been warned that using fireworks to blind opponents will get him carded immediately this year. Owing to the combined wisdom and experience of their players, Bywater will play a flexible style, locking down when ahead and attacking when behind.

DALE
-GK- Brand
-DF- Roac
-DF- Nain
-DF- Carc
-DF- Thror
-MF- Moneybags
-MF- Bard
-MF- Dain
-MF- Girion
-FW- Thranduil
-FW- Smaug

Many fans are concerned that old Mayor Moneybags will abandon the team mid-game and make off with all of the ticket sale profits, but team captain Smaug assured everyone that Moneybags will behave perfectly for fear of being roasted alive. Dale will be playing a straightforward game and banking on the skill of their forwards to win the day. Smaug is always dangerous, and Thranduil showed great promise last year as part of Mirkwood’s surprise run to the semis.

DOL GULDUR
-GK- Oropher
-DF- Tomnoddy
-DF- Thrain
-DF- Attercop
-MF- Galion
-MF- Grimbeorn
*MF- Beorn
*MF- Khamul
-FW- Radagast
-FW- Bolg
*FW- Witch King

With the group of FWs and MFs that Dol Guldur has, it isn’t surprising that they’ll be attacking every minute of each match. At the back they’re hoping that the addition of two spiders will give them enough stopping power to get the job done, allowing them to simply outscore the opposition. Some are concerned though that Tomnoddy and Attercop may be easily distracted by “Bilboish tactics”, such as opponents repeatedly calling their names, particularly when paired with dancing and throwing rocks.

DORIATH
*GK- Melian
-DF- Elured
-DF- Nimloth
-DF- Elurin
-DF- Algund
-MF- Saeros
-MF- Nellas
-MF- Daeron
-MF- Haldir
-FW- Haleth
-FW- Thingol

In order to fill the spots on his roster, Thingol has allowed several “baseborn mortals” from the forest next door to join his team, though he denied requests from a couple of talented dwarves. It looks like this small influx of differing characters and styles will allow Doriath to be more flexible rather than being a strictly defensive team, and relying completely upon the highly skilled Melian to turn aside the opposition.

EITHEL SIRION
-GK- Maglor
-DF- Gundor
-DF- Aegnor
-DF- Galdor
*DF- Angrod
-MF- Bregor
-MF- Nienor
-MF- Gwindor
*MF- Hador
-FW- Fingon
*FW- Maedhros

The northern fortress is back and looking to make a splash with a more than solid assembly of Elves and Men. With no known quarrels existing between the players and much experience between them, Eithel Sirion ought to feature good team play on top of their excellent talent. Look for balance from them at all times.

GELION
-GK- Dior
-DF- Haldar
-DF- Azaghal
-DF- Caranthir
*DF- Luthien
-MF- Denethor
-MF- Bereg
-MF- Lenwe
-MF- Haldad
-MF- Amlach
-FW- Beren

For a first-time team Gelion has managed to attract several quality players who usually play for other squads in Beleriand. Though Beren and Luthien have had their troubles with Celegorm and Curufin, it appears that they are getting on well with Caranthir, and thus their back line is looking particularly good. Besides the talent present there the overall mindset is quite defensive as well, so that’s definitely where they will try and gain their wins.

GONDOLIN
-GK- Huor
-DF- Salgant
-DF- Asfaloth
-DF- Rochallor
*DF- Thorondor
-MF- Ecthelion
-MF- Glorfindel
*MF- Eol
-FW- Fingolfin
-FW- Aredhel
*FW- Maeglin

Gondolin has strong talent and playoff experience across the board, so opponents had better come prepared to play all phases of the game. With their wide distribution of talent, Gondolin will play extremely balanced football, though if they fall behind they have a higher offensive gear to shift into.

GONDOR
-GK- Romendacil
-DF- Fastred
-DF- Ondoher
-DF- Folcred
-MF- Meneldil
-MF- Ostoher
-MF- Narmacil
-MF- Hyarmendacil
*MF- Beruthiel
-FW- Eldacar
-FW- Mardil

Gondor has tweaked their line and brought back the unpopular Beruthiel in hopes that her solid experience with other teams the past two seasons can benefit them. She will not be in a position to run wild, however, as Gondor is committed to defense first.

GORGOROTH
-GK- Shelob
-DF- Gorbag
-DF- Grishnakh
-DF- Shagrat
*DF- Nazgul #1
-MF- Angamaite
-MF- Gollum
-MF- Sangahyando
*MF- King of the Dead
-FW- Earnur
-FW- Castamir

The “other” Mordor team is not one to overlook, featuring a blend of crafty orcs, powerful men, and a couple of skilled undead. And of course there’s the fearsome Shelob in the goal, whose defensive webs are not easily pierced (not a literal phrase of course- the Arda Cup committee has banned players from covering the goal with any sort of obstacle, such as spider-webs). Look for the team to support her as their strategy.

HAVENS
-GK- Olwe
-DF- Lindo
-DF- Amandil
-DF- Eriol
-MF- Ar Gimilzor
-MF- Tar Aldarion
-MF- Elwing
-MF- Uinen
*MF- Cirdan
*FW- Earendil
-FW- Tar Minastir

Havens is a very diverse team, featuring all sorts of sea-faring individuals, including Tar Minastir, whose goal-scoring was an important part of Armenelos’s championship last season. Expect them to push the ball upfield aggressively at nearly every opportunity, where the proven hammers at the front will look to rack up the goals.

ITHILIEN
-GK- Mumakil
-DF- Samwise
-DF- Adrahil
-DF- Bergil
-DF- Mablung
-MF- Elboron
-MF- Damrod
-MF- Frodo
-MF- Anborn
-MF- Beregond
-FW- Faramir

Ithilien’s team is well versed in tactics of stealth and secrecy (though they have been banned from wearing camouflage on the pitch). Look for them to plan their rare attacks carefully while playing a frustrating defensive game. Mumakil in goal is an unknown, but Captain Faramir hopes the sheer girth of the beast will make things difficult on the opposition.

LORIEN
*GK- Galadriel
-DF- Finglas
-DF- Nimrodel
-DF- Orophin
-DF- Amroth
-MF- Fimbrethil
-MF- Rumil
-MF- Fladrif
-MF- Haldir
-MF- Amdir
-FW- Celeborn

Lorien looks to be a strong and wise team overall after adding a few ents to the roster, and the ents ought to be extremely comfortable playing alongside Elves. As usual Lorien will be dedicated to defense, and with their line-tweaks Galadriel hopes that she’ll get some help this year.

MINAS ANOR
-GK- Ecthelion II
-DF- Golasgil
-DF- Dervorin
-DF- Calimehtar
*DF- Pippin
-MF- Siriondil
-MF- Denethor II
-MF- Earnil II
*MF- Nazgul #4
-FW- Falastur
-FW- Boromir I

The tower of guard is back under its old name, Minas Anor, and hoping that the name change signifies brighter days. To help they have recalled the ever likable Pippin and others to service, and with this array of talent and no clear strength, expect a flexible style suited to all foes.

MISTY MOUNTAINS
-GK- Watcher
-DF- Tom
-DF- Landroval
-DF- Meneldor
-DF- Durin
-MF- Bert
-MF- Great Goblin
-MF- William
-MF- Narvi
-MF- Gwaihir
-FW- Azog

Eagles, dwarves, trolls, and orcs come together to make a brutish looking team. Their defensive play is likely to be bruising, and in fact overall they will look for their size and strength to make up for strategy. Their most calculating players they have placed at the front in recognition of the fact that it often takes some guile to change the scoreboard.

MITHRIM
**GK- Huan
-DF- Annael
-DF- Gelmir
*DF- Celegorm
**DF- Curufin
-MF- Androg
-MF- Morwen
-MF- Aradan
-FW- Hurin
-FW- Beleg
**FW- Turin

Together again- the dynamic duo of Turin and Beleg are back, but this time joined by the steadfast Hurin up front. At the back the sons of Feanor and their old pal Huan will make their presence known to opposing forwards. This team looks to have the talent to challenge teams defensively and offensively without having to emphasize either one, though they have that extra offensive gear to use should they fall behind. Given the skill of their defense, the forwards will be freed up to do as they please.

NARGOTHROND
-GK- Beor
-DF- Baran
-DF- Arminas
-DF- Baranor
*DF- Celebrimbor
-MF- Guillen
-MF- Boron
-MF- Finduilas
-MF- Barahir
**MF- Finrod
-FW- Mablung

Sporting a solid line punctuated by a couple exceptional talents, Nargothrond will be tough to crack. As expected under Finrod’s leadership, Nargothrond will be careful and guarded with their play, and tough as nails defensively. And should they encounter a team featuring a dragon, Finrod swears that they will not use the ill-fated “bridge maneuver” this time around.

NORBURY
-GK- Arvedui
-DF- Valandur
-DF- Arveleg
-DF- Malvegil
-DF- Amlaith
-MF- Argeleb
-MF- Tarcil
-MF- Valandil
*MF- Malbeth
-FW- Aranarth
-FW- Araphor

The northern descendants of the Numenoreans have shown some good talent in the past, but this time they think they have their team tweaked just right for a deeper run in the tournament. They will play their usual style, flexible and minimizing errors, ready to capitalize on those made by their opponents.

NUMENOR
*GK- Tar Atanamir
-DF- Tar Meneldur
-DF- Ar Zimrathan
-DF- Tar Cirytan
**DF- Tar Telperien
-MF- Tar Calmacil
-MF- Tar Ancalimon
-MF- Tar Miriel
**MF- Elros
-FW- Tar Palantir
-FW- Ar Adunakhor

The defending champs are back, this time playing as Numenor rather than Armenelos. The team looks a bit different, however, losing all three of their forwards (Ar Pharazon to Aman, Sauron to Barad-Dur, Tar Minastir to Havens). Losing three players of that caliber is certainly a blow, but replacing them are the three best players from last year’s solid Romenna squad, and the talent already present is certainly nothing to take lightly. Thus Numenor expects to fare well yet again with their balanced style.

PELENNOR
-GK- Theoden
-DF- Forlong
-DF- Windfola
-DF- Snowmane
-DF- Gothmog II
-MF- Gimli
-MF- Grimbold
-MF- Duinhir
-FW- Eowyn
-FW- Legolas
-FW- Imrahil

Teams spring up in all sorts of unexpected places, including this one which sprang from the fields before the gates of Minas Tirith. They feature quality talent and have a good team spirit, and will attack without hesitation at all times. Not surprisingly, their team motto is, “Leave it all out on the field!” Of course, players like Theoden hope that the fate that awaits him on the field is one other than the one he found upon Pelennor.

RIVENDELL
**GK- Elrond
-DF- Thorin
-DF- Galdor
-DF- Celebrian
*DF- Erestor
-MF- Bilbo
-MF- Elrohir
-MF- Elladen
*MF- Arwen
-MF- Arahael
-FW- Boromir II

Rivendell teams have always shown great unity and a flare for defense, and Elrond says that this year’s team is no different. They will try to lock down from beginning to end and score when an opportunity presents itself, simple as that.

ROHAN
-GK- Fram
-DF- Stybba
-DF- Firefoot
*DF- Felarof
-MF- Merry
-MF- Hallas
-MF- Frumgar
-MF- Cirion
-MF- Helm
-FW- Eomer
-FW- Eorl

Last year’s Edoras team put on an amazing defensive show through group play, but the goalkeeper (Theoden) and one of the defensive stars (Shadowfax) have departed, and so has the valuable Eowyn. But Eorl has found quality players to plug the holes, including a couple of solid additions from nearby Helm’s Deep. He also feels that the steed Firefoot is ready to step up and fill the void left by Shadowfax, and has recalled Merry Brandybuck, knight of the Mark, to serve the kingdom.

THANGORODRIM
-GK- Carcharoth
-DF- Gorlim
-DF- Drauglin
-DF- Uldor
*DF- Glaurung
-MF- Ulfang
-MF- Ulwarth
-MF- Ulfast
**MF- Durin’s Bane
*FW- Scatha
-FW- Ancalagon

Many Angband fans put up quite a fit when Melkor departed to sign with Valinor last year, and more still grumbled this year upon hearing that he intended to restart his old Utumno squad, and to make matters worse he stole many players which looked like they might play for Thangorodrim- Telvildo, Thuringwethil, Gothmog, and several Balrogs. In addition Hurin has gone back to Mithrim, Maeglin to Gondolin, and Gwindor to Eithel Sirion. But just when things looked hopeless, it was announced that there would be a dragon reunion! Scatha came from Mirkwood and Glaurung from Nargothrond to join with Ancalagon, and the next announcement- Durin’s Bane was at last coming back from Moria! Now Angband fans can look forward to seeing a quality side which will attack and attack again without mercy.

TIRION
-GK- Aule
-DF- Amras
-DF- Indis
-DF- Amrod
-MF- Orodreth
-MF- Mahtan
-MF- Ingwe
*MF- Nerdanel
-FW- Finwe
**FW- Feanor
*FW- Miriel

When a team has a prolific offense but still is unable to advance, the normal strategy would be to shore up the defense or revise to a less risky playing style. But Tirion (formerly Tuna) has taken the opposite route, attempting to add to their already top-tier offense in the form of Feanor. Will he be like throwing wood on a fire and smothering it, or will he be like adding gasoline? Fans can’t wait to find out. In the meantime, Tirion appears to be just as attack heavy as ever, except perhaps that Feanor has brought with him the mindset of locking down after building a lead.

UTUMNO
*GK- Ungoliant
-DF- Balrog #1
-DF- Balrog #2
-DF- Balrog #3
**DF- Balrog #4
-MF- Balrog #5
-MF- Telvildo
-MF- Thuringwethil
**MF- Melkor
-FW- Tilion
-FW- Gothmog

After a spectacular performance for Valimar that in the end proved fruitless, Melkor has decided to form a team of his own, and many have flocked to his call, including a couple of his teammates from last year. Also rejoining him is his chief balrog and several of his brothers, as well as Telvildo and Thuringwethil. This team is loaded top to bottom, and will follow the strategy of getting a lead and then shutting down the opponent.

VALIMAR
*GK- Namo
-DF- Vana
-DF- Pallando
-DF- Alatar
**DF- Manwe
-MF- Ilmare
-MF- Yavanna
-MF- Tulkas
**MF- Varda
-MF- Arien
-FW- Eonwe

Despite losing some heavy hitters, the Valimar squad doesn’t look likely to take a step back after adding the best of Taniquetil to their side. As with most Manwe-led teams, Valimar will be fairly defensive minded, though this time around due to the influence of last year’s holdovers the team will be better suited to come back from a deficit when necessary.

VINYAMAR
-GK- Rog
-DF- Osse
-DF- Galdor
-DF- Salmar
**DF- Ulmo
-MF- Voronwe
-MF- Egalmoth
-MF- Idril
-MF- Duilin
-FW- Tuor
-FW- Penlod

A great many lords of Gondolin have returned to their original home by the sea, and as he did of old, Ulmo has joined them there once again. And as an extra benefit, the lord of the waters has been joined by two of his vassals, Osse and Salmar, making the defense look quite formidable indeed. Vinyamar, while capable up and down the line, will look first to their defense to win matches.

WOLD
-GK- Hama
-DF- Elfwine
-DF- Beechbone
-DF- Lightfoot
*DF- Treebeard
-MF- Aldor
-MF- Grima
-MF- Theodred
-MF- Ugluk
*MF- Quickbeam
-FW- Eomund

The denizens of Isengard, Fangorn, and Rohan have met out upon the Wold and melded into a single team. They hope to be as crafty as orcs, as hardy and strong as ents, and as forward and dashing as the men of Rohan. Captain Treebeard has made defense the focus of this squad, and has instituted a policy of not being hasty, but rather careful and opportunistic.

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GROUP A
Aman
Beleriand
Ithilien
Vinyamar

GROUP B
Barad-Dur
Barrow-Downs
Breeland
Gorgoroth

GROUP C
Mithrim
Nargothrond
Norbury
Pelennor

GROUP D
Dale
Eithel Sirion
Gelion
Rohan

GROUP E
Misty Mountains
Numenor
Rivendell
Utumno

GROUP F
Bywater
Lorien
Thangorodrim
Valimar

GROUP G
Doriath
Gondolin
Gondor
Wold

GROUP H
Dol Guldur
Havens
Minas Anor
Tirion

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For those who do not know the way this tournament works, the teams within a group play each other (3 points for a win, 1 for a draw), and the two teams that finish atop the group advance to the playoffs (16 teams, single elimination).

[Boromir88]

I'm about to put up a pleasant little piece on the 32 teams. It's merely for entertainment, and hopefully it's enjoyable. I completed half in Microsoft word prior, and the other half will come some time later.

The reason I'm saying this though, is because creating stories and write-ups...etc adds to the spirit and fun of the whole thing. You honestly don't have to know about soccer at all...create stories about teams jerseys, make-up, shoes for all I care. Create interviews with players, rivalries...etc. It's not required but everyone's welcome! :D

[Nogrod]

You will select your team members from the rosters available in my next post, and will be awarded points according to how your players fare in their tournament games. Please put a bolded -> C after one of your players. That means that player is your team captain, and will gain (or lose) double point value.ETC...

Remember, you have no hurry at this stage!

No one is calling you to make a team tomorrow or the day after that. Just enjoy the pre-tournament friendly matches published on the coming weeks, look at the rosters and the different analysis by the media for your fun and entertainment etc.

The Arda Cup will start later on - and you will be encouraged to make your choices nearer the DL for the games to begin... :D

[Boromir88]

Some of the first friendlies are up...I think more are coming later. The phantasy scoring is pretty straight forward, but as an example for the new ones...This would have been the phantasy points for if you had any of these players from Gorgoroth on your team:

GORGOROTH
-GK- Shelob (6) - [shutout (4), 3 saves (2)]
-DF- Gorbag (4) - [shutout for DF]
-DF- Grishnakh (3) - [shutout, yellow card (-1)]
-DF- Shagrat (3) - [shutout, YC]
*DF- Nazgul #1 (6) - [shutout (4), assist (3), YC (-1)]
-MF- Angamaite (1) - [shutout for MF]
-MF- Gollum (1) - [shutout]
-MF- Sangahyando (0) - [shutout, YC]
*MF- King of the Dead (1) - [shutout]
-FW- Earnur (-1) - [YC]
-FW- Castamir (4) - [goal for FW]

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Do we post our teams/predictions on this thread?

[the phantom]

Yes sir! This is the thread for all team-managing posts and official predictions for points. Basically, anything Phantasy related goes here.

The other thread (Arda Cup 2010) is going to be strictly match-based posts- game summaries, team stories, interviews, pre-match breakdowns, etc. That does not mean that you aren't allowed to post on it. Feel free, so long as you are posting in the spirit of the thread.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

-GK- Nienna
*DF- Glaurung
DF- Balrog #1
-DF- Snowmane
-DF- Thrain
-MF- Fimbrethil
-MF- Thuringwethil
*MF- Cirdan
**FW- Feanor
FW- Imrahil
FW- Fingolfin

Predictions to follow.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

GK - Hama (Wold)

DF - Nimrodel (Lorien)
DF - Balrog #1 (Utumno)
DF - Gothmog II (Pelennor)
DF - Treebeard (Wold)*

MF - Goldberry (Breeland)
MF - Glorfindel (Gondolin)
MF - Eol (Gondolin)*
MF - Melkor (Utumno)** C

FW - Isildur (Barad-Dur)
FW- Mablung (Nargothrond)

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Most goals: Feanor (Tirion)

Most assists: Melkor (Utumno)

Winning team: Utumno


Best Keeper: Melian (Doriath)

Best Defender: Balrog #4 (Utumno)

Best Midfielder: Melkor (Utumno)

Best Forward: Feanor (Tirion)


Group Predictions (1st place, 2nd place)


A: Aman, Vinyamar

B: Barrow-Downs, Barad-Dur

C: Nargothrond, Pelennor

D: Eithel Sirion, Gelion

E: Utumno, Numenor

F: Valimar, Bywater

G: Gondolin, Wold

H: Tirion, Grey Havens

[mormegil]

My Roster is a 4-3-3

Eomerwarg of the Donwers as GK

DF:
Mablung of Ithilien
Amroth of Lorien
Thror of Dale
Skip Spence of the Downers

MF:
Haldir of Doriath
*Beruthiel of Gondor
*King of the Dead of Gorgoroth

FW:
Smaug of Dale
*Bombadil of Breeland
*Witch King of Dol Guldur (C)

Predicitons:

Most goals is Turin

Most assists is Beorn

Teams the will win is Mithrim

Goalkeeper with most points is Huan

Defender with most points is Curufin

Midfielder with most points is Melkor

Forward with most points is Turin

Group Predictions (first team listed is first and second is second)

Group A:
Vinyamar
Ithilien

Group B:
Barad-Dur
Gorgoroth

Group C:
Mirthrim
Nargothrond

Group D:
Eithel Sirion
Dale

Group E:
Numenor
Utunmo

Group F:
Thangorodrim
Bywater

Group G:
Gondolin
Wold

Group H:
Tirion
Dol Guldur

[Gwathagor]

Glad to see I made it onto the Barrow-downs team.

[Gwathagor]

This year's Lynch Mob will use a 4-3-3 formation.

GK: Rog (Vinyamar)

DF: Amrod (Tirion)
DF: Thorin (Rivendell)
DF: Tar Meneldur (Numenor)
DF: Finglas (Lorien)

MF: Gil-Galad * (Barad-dur)
MF: Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)
MF: Hador * (Eithel Sirion)

FW: Miriel * (Tirion) (C)
FW: Eorl (Rohan)
FW: Earendil * (Havens)

PREDICTIONS:

10 POINTS QUESTIONS
Who will score the most goals in the tournament?
-Sauron

Who will have the most assists in the tournament?
-Nerdanel

Which team will win the tournament?
-Utumno

5 POINT QUESTIONS

Which goalkeeper will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?
-Huan

Which defender will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?
-Curufin

Which midfielder will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?
-Melkor

Which forward will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?
-Feanor

GROUP PREDICTIONS

GROUP A - Vinyamar, Aman
GROUP B - Barad-dur, Barrowdowns
GROUP C - Mithrim, Nargothrond
GROUP D - Eithel Sirion, Gelion
GROUP E - Utumno, Numenor
GROUP F - Valimar, Thangorodrim
GROUP G - Gondolin, Wold
GROUP H - Tirion, Dol Guldur

[Shastanis Althreduin]

The Howls of Raven's Run - Shasta's team

GK - Shelob (Gorgoroth)

DF - Shadowfax (Bywater) **
DF - Orophin (Lorien)
DF - Celegorm (Mithrim) *
DF - Firefoot (Rohan)

MF - Mahtan (Tirion)
MF - Thuringwethil (Utumno)
MF - Nerwen (Barrow-Downs)

FW - Maedhros (Eithel Sirion) *
FW - Tar Minastir (Havens) (C)
FW - Ancalagon (Thangorodrim)

10 POINT QUESTIONS

Who will score the most goals in the tournament? - Tar Minastir

Who will have the most assists in the tournament? - Nerdanel

Which team will win the tournament? - Mithrim

5 POINT QUESTIONS

Which goalkeeper will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? - Shelob

Which defender will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? - Shadowfax

Which midfielder will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? - Elros

Which forward will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? - Miriel

GROUP PREDICTIONS

Group A - Vinyamar, followed by Ithilien.
Group B - Barrow-Downs, followed by Gorgoroth.
Group C - Mithrim, followed by Pelennor.
Group D - Eithel Sirion, followed by Rohan.
Group E - Numenor, followed by Utumno.
Group F - Thangorodrim, followed by Lorien.
Group G - Gondolin, followed by Doriath.
Group H - Havens, followed by Tirion.

[wilwarin538]

The Muffins of Muchness

GK - Hama of Wold

DF - Nessa of Aman
DF - Amrod of Tirion
DF - Glaurung of Thangorodrim *
DF - Lightfoot of Wold

MF - Durin's Bane of Thangorodrim ** (C)
MF - Gwindor of Eithel Sirion
MF - Merry of Rohan

FW - Miriel of Tirion *
FW - Nogrod of Barrow-Downs
FW - Fingolfin of Gondolin


10 POINT QUESTIONS

Who will score the most goals in the tournament? - Sauron

Who will have the most assists in the tournament? - Ingwe

Which team will win the tournament? - Thangorodrim

5 POINT QUESTIONS

Which goalkeeper will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? - Huan

Which defender will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? - Asfaloth

Which midfielder will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? - Hador

Which forward will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? - Feanor


GROUP PREDICTIONS (1st first, 2nd second)

GROUP A
Aman
Vinyamar

GROUP B
Barad-Dur
Gorgoroth

GROUP C
Pelennor
Mithrim

GROUP D
Eithel Sirion
Rohan

GROUP E
Numenor
Rivendell

GROUP F
Thangorodrim
Valimar

GROUP G
Gondolin
Wold

GROUP H
Tirion
Havens

[Nerwen]

Sorry this is so late– internet's been dying on me!

Nerwen's Noble Achievers

GK - Shelob (Gorgoroth)

DF - Salmar (Vinyamar)
DF - Alatar (Valimar)
DF - Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
DF - *Glaurung (Thangorodrim)

MF - Ingwë (Tirion)
MF - Idril (Vinyamar)
MF - *Eöl (Gondolin)

FW - Wilwa (Barrow-Downs)
FW - Legolas (Pelennor)
**FW- Feanor (Tirion) (C)



10 POINT QUESTIONS

Who will score the most goals in the tournament? –Feanor

Who will have the most assists in the tournament? –Eowyn

Which team will win the tournament? –Tirion

5 POINT QUESTIONS

Which goalkeeper will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? –Huan

Which defender will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? –Glaurung

Which midfielder will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? –Durin's Bane

Which forward will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? –Feanor (again)

GROUP A
1. Vinyamar
2. Ithilien

GROUP B
1. Barad-Dur
2. Barrow-Downs

GROUP C
1. Pelennor
2. Mithrim

GROUP D
1.Eithel Sirion
2.Rohan

GROUP E
1.Utumno
2.Numenor

GROUP F
1.Thangorodrim
2.Valimar

GROUP G
1.Gondolin
2.Gondor

GROUP H
1.Tirion
2.Havens

[the phantom]

All right, ladies and gents- from this point on, every goal and save is for points. The friendlies are over. All the friendly results can be found on the main thread if you wish to read them. A few of us will be doing friendly reviews or tournament forcasting in the coming days leading up to the start of the tournament, so if you are wanting to give your selections some additional thought, give those a read. Or you can always read just for entertainment purposes. Also, feel free to post your own sports-blog/article style recaps and predictions.

If you haven't drafted your team or made your official point predictions, make sure and get it done. We'll give you a few days so as to max out participants, but the longer you wait the more frequent reminder PMs you'll get from me.

Or perhaps that's a reward more than a punishment? :p

[skip spence]

Or perhaps that's a reward more than a punishment? :p
Yes! PM me Mr. Phantom, PM me! I'm not done with my team selections yet! ;)

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I'm feeling good about this year's competition. Let battle commence!

[Boromir88]

One thing about your roster wilwa...Sauron is a 2 * player, so you're one over. ;)

Predictions

10 POINT QUESTIONS

Who will score the most goals in the tournament? Maedhros

Who will have the most assists in the tournament? Sauron

Which team will win the tournament? Gondolin

5 POINT QUESTIONS

Which goalkeeper will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?
Elrond

Which defender will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?
Treebeard

Which midfielder will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?
Durin's Bane

Which forward will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?
Maedhros

GROUP A
1. Aman
2. Vinyamar

GROUP B
1. Barad Dur
2. Barrow Downs

GROUP C
1. Mithrim
2. Norbury

GROUP D
1.Eithel Sirion
2.Rohan

GROUP E
1.Utumno
2.Rivendell

GROUP F
1.Valimar
2.Thangorodrim

GROUP G
1.Gondolin
2.Wold

GROUP H
1.Tirion
2.Havens

Team - Han says "Come on baby hold together."

-GK- Rog (Vinyamar)

-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
*DF- Turgon (Aman)
*DF- Treebeard (Wold)

-MF- Arien (Valimar)
-MF- Helm (Rohan)
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)
**MF- Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim) (C)

-FW- Fingon (Eithel Sirion)
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens)

[wilwarin538]

One thing about your roster wilwa...Sauron is a 2 * player, so you're one over.

*headdesks*

And I thought I could get away with it. :p haha It's fixed.

[the phantom]

I'd say that your team requires another fix, as I'm fairly certain you won't be gaining any points from "Fingol". :p

[wilwarin538]

I'd say that your team requires another fix, as I'm fairly certain you won't be gaining any points from "Fingol". :p

*facepalm*

Gah. I fail. Fixed now.

[Nogrod]

A few general questions...

Have you tp an idea when are we going to start: a few days, a week, less than two weeks?

Which will be the opening-round games?

How will the teams proceed after the group stage? A1 vs. B2 etc. (every two consecutive groups forming cross-games), A1 vs. D2 etc. (the first four groups coming together and the last four themselves), or A1 vs. H2 etc. (first and last group, second and second last...), or which system?

[the phantom]

Start time will depend upon the swiftness of response from the participants. If everyone has their teams and predictions ready to go by next week I imagine we will begin unless there are weighty objections from co-mods. But if by delaying it is certain that more players will be participating, I would be in favor of a later start.

Playoffs will be A1 vs H2, B1 vs G2, etc.

I hope to post the opening round of games both here and on the game thread in the next couple days. There are just a couple of loose ends to tie up first, such as site selection. The Arda Cup committee is in the final stages of considering hosting bids for the groups, and the competition is fierce! Rumor is Sauron has threatened to set off Mt Doom and cover all the lands in ash if Mordor isn't selected as a host site, and Manwe has hinted that he'll call upon Eru to open up a chasm in the sea if Valimar doesn't host. :p

[mormegil]

My team will be named: Insert Clever Name Here

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Team Captain: Cirdan

Sidenote: Imrahil is our honorary co-captain, though he understands that he will not have the same captain-benefits as Cirdan.


10 POINT QUESTIONS

Who will score the most goals in the tournament? Feanor

Who will have the most assists in the tournament? Nienna

Which team will win the tournament? Barrowdowns

5 POINT QUESTIONS

Which goalkeeper will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Nienna

Which defender will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Nessa

Which midfielder will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Sally

Which forward will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Vanilwa

GROUP PREDICTIONS

GROUP A
1- Ithilien
2- Vinyamar

GROUP B
1- Barrow-Downs
2- Breeland

GROUP C
1- Norbury
2- Mithrim

GROUP D
1- Gelion
2- Eithel Sirion

GROUP E
1- Misty Mountains
2- Utumno

GROUP F
1- Bywater
2- Thangorodrim

GROUP G
1- Gondor
2- Doriath

GROUP H
1- Dol Guldur
2- Minas Anor

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I'm excited for this to start! :D

[the phantom]

If you're having trouble coming up with your team or making predictions, this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOU8GIRUd_g) may help you.

If you have trouble understanding it, I'd be happy to give a more detailed explanation (unless someone else beats me to it).

[Lariren Shadow]

*GK: Melian
DF: Vána
DF: Firefoot
DF: Mira
DF: Windfola
*MF: Cirdan
MF: Elboron
MF: Morwen
FW: Isildur
FW: Faramir
FW: Éowyn C

Predictions will follow.

[skip spence]

Klong Toey Soi Dogs.

GK Hama of Wold
DF Alatar of Valimar
DF Lightfoot of Wold
DF Aegnor of Eithel Sirion

MF Gwindor of Eithel Sirion
MF The Phantom of B-D's
MF Fea of the Peredhil B-D's
*MF Eöl of Gondolin

FW Fingolfin of Gondolin
**FW Túrin (C) of Mithrim



10 POINT QUESTIONS

Who will score the most goals in the tournament? Túrin

Who will have the most assists in the tournament? The Phantom

Which team will win the tournament? Barrowdowns

5 POINT QUESTIONS

Which goalkeeper will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?
Maglor
Which defender will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?
skip spence
Which midfielder will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?
Melkor
Which forward will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?
Turin

GROUP PREDICTIONS

GROUP A
1- Aman
2- Vinyamar

GROUP B
1- Barad-Dur
2- Barrow-Downs

GROUP C
1- Mithrim
2- Norbury

GROUP D
1- Eithel Sirion
2- Rohan

GROUP E
1- Utumno
2- Numenor

GROUP F
1 - Thangorodrim
2- Valimar

GROUP G
1- Gondolin
2- Wold

GROUP H
1 - Tirion
2 - Dol Guldur

[Nogrod]

I have always had a principle to choose my team with (like beauties and the beasts) but this time I thought I could try a different approach. Well a little different one eg. trying to be flexible in the first rounds but then going more or less solidly towards the principles later on the game.

So here's for it the newly named team of mine for the first round of matches (some might see some patterns there from the earlier years: no Fëanor but Miriel and Nerdanel in - hopefully I have reasons to put Aredhel in later as well, and Tar Telperien, and Huan... - they have been the backbone of my teams everytime).



Team Noggportunistics

GK – Nienna of Aman

D – Tar Meneldur of Numenor
D – Asfaloth of Gondolin
D – Galdor of Eithel Sirion
D – * Turgon of Aman

MF – Hyermendacil of Gondor
MF – Gwindor of Eithel Sirion
MF – * Nerdanel of Tirion

FW – * Miriel of Tirion (C)
FW – * Scatha of Thangorodrim
FW – Tar Minastir of Havens



The other pre-tournament predictions:

10 point questions.

Most goals:
Scatha of Thangorodrim

Most assists:
Eöl of Gondolin

Team to win the tournament:
Tirion


5 point questions.

Keeper with most phantasy points:
Huan of Mithrim

Defender with most phantasy points:
Tar Telperion of Numenor

Midfielder with most phantasy points:
Durin’s Bane of Thangorodrim

Forward with most phantasy points:
Nerdanel of Tirion


And the group predictions:

A.
1. Aman
2. Vinyamar

B.
1. Barrow-Downs
2. Barad Dûr

C.
1. Mithrim
2. Norbury

D.
1. Eithel Sirion
2. Rohan

E.
1. Utumno
2. Numenor

F.
1. Thangorodrim
2. Valimar

G.
1. Gondolin
2. Gondor

H.
1. Tirion
2. Havens

[Boromir88]

Yay there's a Lari! And she's got a very family oriented team. :p

If you have trouble understanding it, I'd be happy to give a more detailed explanation (unless someone else beats me to it).

I didn't realize it was April 1st at all yesterday, but my thought was...Really? He's Rick roll'd the thread? :rolleyes:

[the phantom]

Sally, Hakon, Eonwe, McCaber, Glirdan, and Mira- we still need your entries. If anyone knows these folks, tell them to get a move on. If they're running short on time now but still wish to compete, offer them some help getting started. The most important thing to hand in now is predictions (most goals, group winners, so on), as those cannot be done once the tournament begins. The team, on the other hand- you can redraft your entire team after the first round of group play, so just toss some players, any players, onto your roster for now if that's all you have time for.

[Eönwë]

Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate
-GK- Dior (Gelion)
-DF- Amrod(Tirion)
-DF- Snowmane(Pelennor)
-DF- Drauglin (Thangorodrim)
-DF-Galdor (Eithel Sirion)
**MF- Elros (Numenor)
*MF- Cirdan (Havens)
-MF- Tar Aldarion (Havens)
*FW- Tom Bombadil (Breeland)
-FW- Eldacar (Gondor)
-FW- Hurin




10 POINT QUESTIONS

Who will score the most goals in the tournament? Sauron

Who will have the most assists in the tournament? Bombadil

Which team will win the tournament? Eithel Sirion

5 POINT QUESTIONS

Which goalkeeper will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Huan

Which defender will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Glaurung

Which midfielder will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Elros

Which forward will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Sauron

GROUP PREDICTIONS

GROUP A
1- Vinyamar
2- Aman

GROUP B
1- Barad-Dur
2- Barrow-Downs

GROUP C
1- Mithrim
2- Pelennor

GROUP D
1- Eithel Sirion
2- Gelion

GROUP E
1- Numenor
2- Utumno

GROUP F
1- Thangorodrim
2- Valimar

GROUP G
1- Gondolin
2- Wold

GROUP H
1- Tirion
2- Havens

[McCaber]

Dang, it's been a while. How've all you guys been doing?

Time to once again reform The Next-to-Last Alliance

*GK: Tar Atanamir (Numenor)
-DF: Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF: Nazgul #5 (Barad-Dur)
-DF: Grishnakh (Gorgoroth)
*DF: Turgon (Aman)
-MF: Tevildo (Thangorodrim)
-MF: The Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
*MF: Eol (Gondolin)
-FW: Tuor (Vinaymar)
-FW: Ancalagon (Thangorodrim)
*FW: Maedhros (Eithel Sirion) (C)

Most goals: Feanor (Tirion)
Most assists: Ancalagon (Thangorodrim)
Champions: Eithol Sirion

Best keeper: Shelob (Gorgoroth)
Best defender: Angrod (Eithel Sirion)
Best midfielder: Elros (Numenor)
Best forward: Feanor (Tirion)

Group A: Aman (W), Vinyamar (Runner-up)
Group B: Barrow-Downs (W), Gorgoroth (Runner-up)
Group C: Mithrim (W), Pelennor (Runner-up)
Group D: Eithel Sirion (W), Gelion (Runner-up)
Group E: Numenor (W), Utumno (Runner-up)
Group F: Thangorodrim (W), Valimar (Runner-up)
Group G: Gondolin (W), Doriath (Runner-up)
Group H: Tirion (W), Havens (Runner-up)

[satansaloser2005]

Team: Sally Ho!

GK: Huan (the wonder mutt)
DF: Sam
DF: Grishnakh
DF: Luthien
DF: Firefoot
MF: Denethor
MF: Glorfindel
MF: Phantom
FW: Smaug
FW: Wilwa
FW: Bombadil
WB*: Fatty

*Water Boy. Or Waddle Boy. Whatever, really.








INDIVIDUAL PREDICTIONS

Most goals: Turin.
Most assists: Melkor.
Winning team: Barad-Dur

Goal keeper with most phantasy points: Huan.
Defender with most phantasy points: Shadowfax.
Midfielder with most phantasy points: Finrod.
Forward with most phantasy points: Sauron.



GROUP PREDICTIONS
(Formula=Group: Winner, runner-up)

A: Vinyamar, Beleriand
B: Barad-Dur, The Barrow-Downs
C: Mithrim, Pelennor
D: Rohan, Gelion
E: Numenor, Utumno
F: Valimar, LoriVen
G: Gondolin, Gondor
H: Minas Anor, Tirion

[Glirdan]

TEAM: Magnum (For all you Bostonmooters :p)

DF
Mira
Shadowfax
Thror
Luthien

MF
Fea
Glorfindel
Gandalf

FW
Sauron
Bombadil C
Beren

GK
Eomer

10 POINT QUESTIONS

Who will score the most goals in the tournament?

Bombadil

Who will have the most assists in the tournament?

Wilwa

Which team will win the tournament?

Rivendell

5 POINT QUESTIONS

Which goalkeeper will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?

Eomer

Which defender will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?

Mira

Which midfielder will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?

the phantom

Which forward will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament?

Bombadil

GROUP PREDICTIONS

Predict the winner and runner up from each of the eight groups. Predicting the winner is worth 3 points. The runner up is worth 1. If you select the correct two teams but have their positions reversed, you will be awarded 2 points. So that's a possible thirty-two points right there. Don't skip this!

Group A

Winner - Belerian
Runner Up - Ithilien

Group B

Winner - Barrow-Downs
Runner Up - Barad-Dur

Group C

Winner - Pelennor
Runner Up - Nargothrond

Group D

Winner - Rohan
Runner Up - Dale

Group E

Winner - Rivendell
Runner Up - Numenor

Group F

Winner - Lorien
Runner Up - Valimar

Group G

Winner - Doriath
Runner Up - Gondor

Group H

Winner - Dol Guldur
Runner Up - Minas Anor

[Lariren Shadow]

Who will score the most goals in the tournament? Manwe

Who will have the most assists in the tournament? Eowyn

Which team will win the tournament? Ithilien

5 POINT QUESTIONS

Which goalkeeper will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Huan

Which defender will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Asfaloth

Which midfielder will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Sally

Which forward will score the most total phantasy points in the tournament? Sauron

GROUP PREDICTIONS

GROUP A
Ithilien
Vinyamar

GROUP B
Barrow-Downs
Gorgoroth

GROUP C
Pelennor
Norbury

GROUP D
Rohan
Dale

GROUP E
Misty Mountains
Numenor


GROUP F
Lorien
Thangorodrim

GROUP G
Gondor
Gondolin

GROUP H
Minas Anor
Dol Guldur

[wilwarin538]

TEAM: Magnum

It's times like these that I'm very pleased to be your best friend. This is brilliant.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

TEAM: Magnum (For all you Bostonmooters :p)

I LOVE YOU!

And so does that clerk.

:D

[Glirdan]

I LOVE YOU!

And so does that clerk.

:D


It's times like these that I'm very pleased to be your best friend. This is brilliant.

Bahahaha!! I knew you'd enjoy it!! :D

[the phantom]

Now that we've reached the stage where we are posting results, DO NOT EDIT OLD POSTS CONTAINING YOUR PHANTASY TEAMS. When this round is over and the Phantasy points and standings have been posted, you may make any desired changes to your team at that time by making a new post announcing your new team.

[the phantom]

Annihilationistic Anomalies (Eomer)
-GK- Hama (Wold)
-DF- Nimrodel (Lorien)
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)
-DF- Gothmog II (Pelennor)
-DF- *Treebeard (Wold)
-MF- Goldberry (Breeland)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)
-FW- Isildur (Barad-Dur)
-FW- Mablung (Nargothrond)

Ben Jonson (Lari)
-GK- *Melian (Doriath)
-DF- Vána (Valimar)
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)
-DF- Mira (Barrow-Downs)
-DF- Windfola (Pelennor)
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens)
-MF- Elboron (Ithilien)
-MF- Morwen (Mithrim)
-FW- Isildur (Barad-Dur)
-FW- Faramir (Ithilien)
-FW- Éowyn (Rohan) (C)

Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate (Steve)
-GK- Dior (Gelion)
-DF- Amrod(Tirion)
-DF- Snowmane(Pelennor)
-DF- Drauglin (Thangorodrim)
-DF- Galdor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- **Elros (Numenor)
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens)
-MF- Tar Aldarion (Havens)
-FW- *Tom Bombadil (Breeland)
-FW- Eldacar (Gondor)
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)

Fea-Ni (Fea/Nienna)
-GK- Nienna (Aman)
-DF- *Glaurung (Thangorodrim)
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)
-DF- Snowmane (Pelennor)
-DF- Thrain (Dol Guldur)
-MF- Fimbrethil (Lorien)
-MF- Thuringwethil (Utumno)
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens) (C)
-FW- **Feanor (Tirion)
-FW- Imrahil (Pelennor)
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)

Han says "Come on baby hold together." (Boro)
-GK- Rog (Vinyamar)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF- *Turgon (Aman)
-DF- *Treebeard (Wold)
-MF- Arien (Valimar)
-MF- Helm (Rohan)
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim) (C)
-FW- Fingon (Eithel Sirion)
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens)

Insert Clever Name Here (Morm)
-GK- Eomerwarg (Barrow-Downs)
-DF- Mablung (Ithilien)
-DF- Amroth (Lorien)
-DF- Thror (Dale)
-DF- Skip Spence (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- Haldir (Doriath)
-MF- *Beruthiel (Gondor)
-MF- *King of the Dead (Gorgoroth)
-FW- Smaug (Dale)
-FW- *Bombadil (Breeland)
-FW- *Witch King (Dol Guldur) (C)

Klong Toey Soi Dogs (Skip)
-GK- Hama (Wold)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Lightfoot (Wold)
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- Fea (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- *Eöl (Gondolin)
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)
-FW- **Túrin (Mithrim) (C)

Magnum (Glirdan)
-GK- Hama (Wold)
-DF- Nessa (Aman)
-DF- Amrod (Tirion)
-DF- *Glaurung (Thangorodrim)
-DF- Lightfoot (Wold)
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim) (C)
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- Merry (Rohan)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)

Nerwen's Noble Achievers (Nerwen)
-GK- Shelob (Gorgoroth)
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
-DF- *Glaurung (Thangorodrim)
-MF- Ingwë (Tirion)
-MF- Idril (Vinyamar)
-MF- *Eöl (Gondolin)
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- Legolas (Pelennor)
-FW- **Feanor (Tirion) (C)

Noggportunistics (Nogrod)
-GK– Nienna (Aman)
-DF– Tar Meneldur (Numenor)
-DF– Asfaloth (Gondolin)
-DF– Galdor (Eithel Sirion)
-DF– *Turgon (Aman)
-MF– Hyermendacil (Gondor)
-MF– Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF– *Nerdanel (Tirion)
-FW– *Miriel (Tirion) (C)
-FW– *Scatha (Thangorodrim)
-FW– Tar Minastir (Havens)

Sally Ho! (Sally)
-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)
-DF- Samwise (Ithilien)
-DF- Grishnakh (Gorgoroth)
-DF- *Luthien (Gelion)
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)
-MF- Denethor II (Minas Anor)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- Smaug (Dale)
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- *Bombadil (Breeland)

The Howls of Raven's Run (Shasta)
-GK- Shelob (Gorgoroth)
-DF- **Shadowfax (Bywater)
-DF- Orophin (Lorien)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)
-MF- Mahtan (Tirion)
-MF- Thuringwethil (Utumno)
-MF- Nerwen (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion)
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens) (C)
-FW- Ancalagon (Thangorodrim)

The Lynch Mob (Gwath)
-GK- Rog (Vinyamar)
-DF- Amrod (Tirion)
-DF- Thorin (Rivendell)
-DF- Tar Meneldur (Numenor)
-DF- Finglas (Lorien)
-MF- *Gil-Galad (Barad-dur)
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- *Hador (Eithel Sirion)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion) (C)
-FW- Eorl (Rohan)
-FW- *Earendil (Havens)

The Muffins of Muchness (Wilwa)
-GK- Hama (Wold)
-DF- Nessa (Aman)
-DF- Amrod (Tirion)
-DF- *Glaurung (Thangorodrim)
-DF- Lightfoot (Wold)
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim) (C)
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- Merry (Rohan)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)

The Next-to-Last Alliance (McCaber)
-GK- *Tar Atanamir (Numenor)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF- Nazgul #5 (Barad-Dur)
-DF- Grishnakh (Gorgoroth)
-DF- *Turgon (Aman)
-MF- Tevildo (Thangorodrim)
-MF- The Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)
-FW- Tuor (Vinaymar)
-FW- Ancalagon (Thangorodrim)
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion) (C)

If you do not have a -> (C) by one of your players, it means you did not choose a captain (or that you did choose a captain and I missed it). You can tell me who your captain is right away if you wish for credit in this round, but only if the player you name has not played yet in this round (i.e. you can't look at the results and then choose a captain).

For the future- when you make changes to your team next round or in later rounds, please copy and paste your team from the previous round's master list (in this case it would be this post), and then make the changes you want by voting in/out substitutions Werewolf style. Example- you wish to kick Phantom off your roster and add Sally...
--Phantom
++Sally

And then beneath that (and whatever other changes you made) you would repost your team roster. In the first round of trades this system is a little tedious due to the fact that there are unlimited trades, but in future rounds when you are only allowed so many substitutions, the voting style (++, --) makes it easy to keep track of exactly how many of your allotted trades you have used.

And before anyone asks, if you switch out Sally for Phantom and then decide to switch out Sally for Fea, that only counts as one trade (Phantom for Fea) since that was the end result.

[Nogrod]

the phantom: could you send the schedule for the second round matches of the group-play here so that people could start thinking about their team-choices for the next round? And the sooner we writers get to see them, the sooner we have done with our pickings; and then the sooner you can then send us the results, and the sooner we can go forwards... :D

[the phantom]

GROUP A
Aman vs Beleriand
Ithilien vs Vinyamar

GROUP B
Barrow-Downs vs Breeland
Barad-Dur vs Gorgoroth

GROUP C
Nargothrond vs Pelennor
Mithrim vs Norbury

GROUP D
Gelion vs Rohan
Dale vs Eithel Sirion

GROUP E
Rivendell vs Utumno
Misty Mts vs Numenor

GROUP F
Lorien vs Thangorodrim
Bywater vs Valimar

GROUP G
Gondor vs Wold
Doriath vs Gondolin

GROUP H
Havens vs Tirion
Dol Guldur vs Minas Anor

[Gwathagor]

Wow, Nogrod. Nice work having Miriel AND Tar Minastir on your team this round. Big points.

[Nogrod]

Wow, Nogrod. Nice work having Miriel AND Tar Minastir on your team this round. Big points.Heh. I always have Miriel... always, I think from start to the end (and tend to have Nerdanel & Aredhel as well, with Huan) but Tar Minastir was a nice surprise. :D

Not that I would have won the competition ever. :rolleyes:

And I think I have never taken Fëanor no matter how many points he would make (actually I think I had him for one game last year to just get me few points needed but I'm not sure about it). It's nothing against Fëanor. On the contrary. I kind of think he's one of the most fascinating characters in all the Tolkien legendarium, but as everyone else always has him in their teams I have decided to play differently on him. :)

But this year my team's name is Noggportunistics, so maybe I'll pick him to my team later?

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Drat, I was hoping no one else would take Tar Minastir. :(

Oh well. I think Shadowfax got a fair few points this time around, so we'll see. And I had Maedhros, as well.

[Nogrod]

And well the veteran's as well (especially the latter part of this).

Here's how we do this.

tp runs the matches with his PC(?)game and doesn't participate in the phantasy-game.

We (Boro, Skip and me) are the writers of the match-reports (with tp) having two groups each - and later dealing the play-off games amongst ourselves.

We writers try to do our own picks for the next round of games as early as possible so that as soon as our phantasy teams are updated for the next round tp will send us the results of our games. Thus we have a few days time to write the reports up (while some of you others still think of your choices for the next round). Then when everyone has made their changes - or a deadline for it has been reached - we start pouring in the match-reports.


I would also encourage anyone of you to come up with your own blog, newspaper, net-site, whatever, to bring your own view to the games in. There is no monopoly here, or a classification that only X and Y can write things in the actual Arda Cup thread. Anyone can write there!

The only rule is that one should keep all the talk about the phantasy game played amongst us in this thread and leave the "AC 10 thread" only to posts concerning the Arda Cup 2010, like it was the actual tournament taking place.

So let me see you contributing there as well! Interviews of players, speculation of the games to come, background articles about some teams, speculation about certain groups or teams... whatever you come by.

Only tp has all the knowledge... :D

All of us others write there with as much information you others have (we just get the results of our matches earlier - but only after we have committed our own phantasy-team picks). And maybe, if you delve into it and show enthusiasm, tp will suggest you to write the actual match-reports at some point of the tournament - if you'd like to do that, of course. Nothing's mandatory here.

But I think there is room in the writing team for anyone interested about it, so just come forwards actively.

And anyway: the more people write their own stuff there in the "AC10" thread, the merrier it will be.

[satansaloser2005]

Only tp has all the knowledge... :D

Heh, heh, heh.


And whoops, I totally forgot to pick a captain.

++Vanilwa Muffin for captain

:p

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I'm actually pondering writing an underground newsletter. :p

[Nogrod]

It was like this:
Noggportunistics (Nogrod)
-GK– Nienna (Aman)
-DF– Tar Meneldur (Numenor)
-DF– Asfaloth (Gondolin)
-DF– Galdor (Eithel Sirion)
-DF– *Turgon (Aman)
-MF– Hyermendacil (Gondor)
-MF– Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF– *Nerdanel (Tirion)
-FW– *Miriel (Tirion) (C)
-FW– *Scatha (Thangorodrim)
-FW– Tar Minastir (Havens)

The following changes are made for the next round....

GK
-- Nienna (Aman)
++ Theoden (Pelennor)

DF
-- Galdor (Eithel Sirion)
-- *Turgon (Aman)
++ Alatar (Valimar)
++ *Celegorm (Mithrim)

MF
-- Hyermendacil (Gondor)
++ Glorfindel (Gondolin)

FW
-- *Scatha (Thangorodrim)
-- Tar Minastir (Havens)
++ Aredhel (Gondolin)
++ *Witch King (Dol Guldur)




Resulting in a new team...


Noggportunistics

-GK – Theoden (Pelennor)

-DF – Tar Meneldur (Numenor)
-DF – Asfaloth (Gondolin)
-DF – Alatar (Valimar)
-DF – *Celegorm (Mithrim)

-MF – Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF – Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF – *Nerdanel (Tirion)

-FW – *Miriel (Tirion) (C)
-FW – Aredhel (Gondolin)
-FW - *Witch King (Dol Guldur)


EDIT: Yay! I have the trio of Nerdanel, Aredhel and Miriel once again! Like every year! :cool:



I'm actually pondering writing an underground newsletter.Go ahead with it! Just letting you know you are encouraged to do that...

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Are we supposed to make changes to our team before individual points are tallied up?

[the phantom]

Noggportunistics (Nogrod)
-GK– Nienna (Aman)- 4
-DF– Tar Meneldur (Numenor)- 2
-DF– Asfaloth (Gondolin)- 4
-DF– Galdor (Eithel Sirion)- 2
-DF– *Turgon (Aman)- 2
-MF– Hyarmendacil (Gondor)- 1
-MF– Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)- -1
-MF– *Nerdanel (Tirion)- 8
-FW– *Miriel (Tirion) (C)- 11
-FW– *Scatha (Thangorodrim)- 3
-FW– Tar Minastir (Havens)- 11
TOTAL POINTS- 58

Han says "Come on baby hold together." (Boro)
-GK- Rog (Vinyamar)- 4
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)- 4
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- *Turgon (Aman)- 2
-DF- *Treebeard (Wold)- 0
-MF- Arien (Valimar)- 1
-MF- Helm (Rohan)- 2
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)- -1
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim) (C)- 8
-FW- Fingon (Eithel Sirion)- 3
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens)- 11
TOTAL POINTS- 46

The Lynch Mob (Gwath)
-GK- Rog (Vinyamar)- 4
-DF- Amrod (Tirion)- -1
-DF- Thorin (Rivendell)- 0
-DF- Tar Meneldur (Numenor)- 2
-DF- Finglas (Lorien)- 0
-MF- *Gil-Galad (Barad-dur)- 0
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)- -1
-MF- *Hador (Eithel Sirion)- 5
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion) (C)- 11
-FW- Eorl (Rohan)- 8
-FW- *Earendil (Havens)- 4
TOTAL POINTS- 43

The Howls of Raven's Run (Shasta)
-GK- Shelob (Gorgoroth)- 4
-DF- **Shadowfax (Bywater)- 0
-DF- Orophin (Lorien)- -1
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 10
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)- 0
-MF- Mahtan (Tirion)- -1
-MF- Thuringwethil (Utumno)- 4
-MF- Nerwen (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion)- 4
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens) (C)- 11
-FW- Ancalagon (Thangorodrim)- 0
TOTAL POINTS- 42

Magnum (Glirdan)
-GK- Hama (Wold)- 4
-DF- Nessa (Aman)- 2
-DF- Amrod (Tirion)- -1
-DF- *Glaurung (Thangorodrim)- 0
-DF- Lightfoot (Wold)- 0
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim) (C)- 8
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)- -1
-MF- Merry (Rohan)- 0
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)- 11
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)- 4
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 4
TOTAL POINTS- 39

The Muffins of Muchness (Wilwa)
-GK- Hama (Wold)- 4
-DF- Nessa (Aman)- 2
-DF- Amrod (Tirion)- -1
-DF- *Glaurung (Thangorodrim)- 0
-DF- Lightfoot (Wold)- 0
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim) (C)- 8
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)- -1
-MF- Merry (Rohan)- 0
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)- 11
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)- 4
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 4
TOTAL POINTS- 39

The Next-to-Last Alliance (McCaber)
-GK- *Tar Atanamir (Numenor)- 2
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- Nazgul #5 (Barad-Dur)- 0
-DF- Grishnakh (Gorgoroth)- 0
-DF- *Turgon (Aman)- 2
-MF- Tevildo (Utumno)- 6
-MF- The Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 8
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 3
-FW- Tuor (Vinaymar)- 0
-FW- Ancalagon (Thangorodrim)- 0
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion) (C)- 4
TOTAL POINTS- 33

Sally Ho! (Sally)
-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)- 4
-DF- Samwise (Ithilien)- 2
-DF- Grishnakh (Gorgoroth)- 0
-DF- *Luthien (Gelion)- 3
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)- 0
-MF- Denethor II (Minas Anor)- 0
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 6
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 8
-FW- Smaug (Dale)- 4
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs)- 3
-FW- *Bombadil (Breeland)- 3
TOTAL POINTS- 33

Klong Toey Soi Dogs (Skip)
-GK- Hama (Wold)- 4
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)- 4
-DF- Lightfoot (Wold)- 0
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)- 4
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)- -1
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 8
-MF- Fea (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-MF- *Eöl (Gondolin)- 3
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 4
-FW- **Túrin (Mithrim) (C)- 4
TOTAL POINTS- 32

Nerwen's Noble Achievers (Nerwen)
-GK- Shelob (Gorgoroth)- 4
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)- 2
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)- 4
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)- 4
-DF- *Glaurung (Thangorodrim)- 0
-MF- Ingwë (Tirion)- 3
-MF- Idril (Vinyamar)- 3
-MF- *Eöl (Gondolin)- 3
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs)- 3
-FW- Legolas (Pelennor)- 0
-FW- **Feanor (Tirion) (C)- 3
TOTAL POINTS- 32

Annihilationistic Anomalies (Eomer)
-GK- Hama (Wold)- 4
-DF- Nimrodel (Lorien)- 0
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- Gothmog II (Pelennor)- -1
-DF- *Treebeard (Wold)- 0
-MF- Goldberry (Breeland)- 3
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 6
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 3
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)- 4
-FW- Isildur (Barad-Dur)- 0
-FW- Mablung (Nargothrond)- 0
TOTAL POINTS- 27

Insert Clever Name Here (Morm)
-GK- Eomerwarg (Barrow-Downs)- 2
-DF- Mablung (Ithilien)- 2
-DF- Amroth (Lorien)- 0
-DF- Thror (Dale)- 0
-DF- Skip Spence (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-MF- Haldir (Doriath)- 0
-MF- *Beruthiel (Gondor)- 4
-MF- *King of the Dead (Gorgoroth)- 3
-FW- Smaug (Dale)- 4
-FW- *Bombadil (Breeland)- 4
-FW- *Witch King (Dol Guldur) (C)- 4
TOTAL POINTS- 27

Fea-Ni (Fea/Nienna)
-GK- Nienna (Aman)- 4
-DF- *Glaurung (Thangorodrim)- 0
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- Snowmane (Pelennor)- 0
-DF- Thrain (Dol Guldur)- 0
-MF- Fimbrethil (Lorien)- 0
-MF- Thuringwethil (Utumno)- 4
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens) (C)- 3
-FW- **Feanor (Tirion)- 3
-FW- Imrahil (Pelennor)- 0
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 4
TOTAL POINTS- 25

Ben Jonson (Lari)
-GK- *Melian (Doriath)- 4
-DF- Vána (Valimar)- 4
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)- 0
-DF- Mira (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-DF- Windfola (Pelennor)- -1
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens)- 3
-MF- Elboron (Ithilien)- 0
-MF- Morwen (Mithrim)- 6
-FW- Isildur (Barad-Dur)- 0
-FW- Faramir (Ithilien)- 4
-FW- Éowyn (Pelennor) (C)- 0
TOTAL POINTS- 20

Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate (Steve)
-GK- Dior (Gelion)- 2
-DF- Amrod (Tirion)- -1
-DF- Snowmane (Pelennor)- 0
-DF- Drauglin (Thangorodrim)- -1
-DF- Galdor (Eithel Sirion)- 2
-MF- **Elros (Numenor)- 0
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens)- 3
-MF- Tar Aldarion (Havens)- 0
-FW- *Tom Bombadil (Breeland)- 4
-FW- Eldacar (Gondor)- 4
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)- 7
TOTAL POINTS- 20

All right everyone, that's it for round 1, but there are many rounds to come, and if you are trailing you should not be discouraged! One great round can totally erase any lead that is built up, and then there's all the prediction points (the ones you've done already, as well as playoff predictions to come). Just to show you how many points it is possible to pick up in a single round, check out the team you could've had last round...

Ultimate Phantasy Team
-GK- Romendacil (Gondor)- 6
-DF- Fastred (Gondor)- 4
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)- 4
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)- 7
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 10
-MF- Cirion (Rohan)- 8
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 8
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)- 8
-FW- Eorl (Rohan)- 8
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens)- 11
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion) (C)- 11
TOTAL POINTS- 96

[wilwarin538]

++Vanilwa Muffin for captain

:p

Ooh, cool. Thanks Cupcake! ;):p


So, we can switch players now? How many swaps do we have? (no, I don't pay attention, I'm aware of this)

[the phantom]

the more people write their own stuff there in the "AC10" thread, the merrier it will be.
Quite right!

Shasta- looking forward to your newsletter. :cool:

You have unlimited trades before round two.
You may now feature FIVE stars on your squad.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

The Howls of Raven's Run
-GK- Shelob (Gorgoroth)
-DF- **Shadowfax (Bywater)
-DF- Orophin (Lorien)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)
-MF- Mahtan (Tirion)
-MF- Thuringwethil (Utumno)
-MF- Nerwen (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion)
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens) (C)
-FW- Ancalagon (Thangorodrim)

------------------------------

--Orophin (Lorien)
--Firefoot (Rohan)
++*Luthien (Gelion)
++Eriol (Havens)

--Mahtan (Tirion)
--Nerwen (Barrow-Downs)
++the phantom (Barrow-Downs)
++Glorfindel (Gondolin)

--Ancalagon (Thangorodrim)
++Hurin (Mithrim)

-------------------------------

The Howls of Raven's Run
-GK- Shelob (Gorgoroth)
-DF- **Shadowfax (Bywater)
-DF- *Luthien (Gelion)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- Eriol (Havens)
-MF- the phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- Thuringwethil (Utumno)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion)
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens) (C)
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)

[Lariren Shadow]

-GK- *Melian (Doriath)
-DF- Vána (Valimar)
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)
-DF- Mira (Barrow-Downs)
-DF- Windfola (Pelennor)
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens)
-MF- Elboron (Ithilien)
-MF- Morwen (Mithrim)
-FW- Isildur (Barad-Dur)
-FW- Faramir (Ithilien)
-FW- Éowyn (Pelennor) (C)

-----------------------------------
--Mira
++**Curufin

--Isildur
++*Maeglin
-----------------------------------
-GK- *Melian (Doriath)
-DF- Vána (Valimar)
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)
-DF- Windfola (Pelennor)
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens)
-MF- Elboron (Ithilien)
-MF- Morwen (Mithrim)
-FW- *Maeglin (Gondolin)
-FW- Faramir (Ithilien)
-FW- Éowyn (Pelennor) (C)

[Gwathagor]

Trades:

--Finglas (Lorien)
--Thorin (Rivendell)
--Gil-Galad* (Barad-dur)
--Hador* (Eithel Sirion)
--Eorl (Rohan)
--Earendil* (Havens)

++Fastred (Gondor)
++Celegorm* (Mithrim)
++Durin's Bane** (Thangorodrim)
++The Phantom (Barrow-downs)
++Hurin (Mithrim)
++Tar Minastir (Havens)

Further Trades:
--Amrod
--Hurin
--Gwindor
--Tar Minastir

++Ar Adunakhor (Numenor)
++Hador* (Eithel Sirion)
++Beleg (Mithrim)
++Alatar (Valimar)


Round 2 Lynch Mob:

GK: Rog (Vinyamar)
DF: Fastred (Gondor)
DF: Alatar (Valimar)
DF: Tar Meneldur (Numenor)
DF: Celegorm* (Mithrim)
MF: Durin’s Bane** (Thangorodrim)
MF: Hador* (Eithel Sirion)
MF: The Phantom (Barrow-downs)
FW: Miriel* (Tirion)
FW: Beleg (Mithrim)
FW: Ar Adunakhor (Numenor) (C)

[Nogrod]

You may now feature FIVE stars on your squad.I had totally forgotten this... Okay, don't send me the results of my groups untill I look for a possible change. I'll post my new squad later today.

[wilwarin538]

How it was:

-GK- Hama (Wold)
-DF- Nessa (Aman)
-DF- Amrod (Tirion)
-DF- *Glaurung (Thangorodrim)
-DF- Lightfoot (Wold)
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim) (C)
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- Merry (Rohan)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

-- DF Amrod
-- DF *Glaurung
-- DF Lightfoot
-- MF Gwindor

++ DF Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
++ DF *Thorondor (Gondolin)
++ DF *Celegorm (Mithrim)
++ MF Cirion (Rohan)

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

How it is now:

-GK- Hama (Wold)
-DF- Nessa (Aman)
-DF- Aegnor (Either Sirion)
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim)
-MF- Cirion (Rohan)
-MF- Merry (Rohan)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion) (C)
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

You faithless lot! I'm keeping the same team because I believe in them. No changes.

[Gwathagor]

I had totally forgotten this... Okay, don't send me the results of my groups untill I look for a possible change. I'll post my new squad later today.

Dang, I forgot, too!

[Nogrod]

Noggportunistics

-GK – Theoden (Pelennor)

-DF – Tar Meneldur (Numenor)
-DF – Asfaloth (Gondolin)
-DF – Alatar (Valimar)
-DF – *Celegorm (Mithrim)

-MF – Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF – Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF – *Nerdanel (Tirion)

-FW – *Miriel (Tirion) (C)
-FW – Aredhel (Gondolin)
-FW - *Witch King (Dol Guldur)


-- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)
++ *Khamûl (Dol Guldur)


So the team for the second round of games will be:

Noggportunistics

-GK – Theoden (Pelennor)

-DF – Tar Meneldur (Numenor)
-DF – Asfaloth (Gondolin)
-DF – Alatar (Valimar)
-DF – *Celegorm (Mithrim)

-MF – Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF – *Khamûl (Dol Guldur)
-MF – *Nerdanel (Tirion)

-FW – *Miriel (Tirion) (C)
-FW – Aredhel (Gondolin)
-FW - *Witch King (Dol Guldur)

[mormegil]

--Thror

++DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)

[Boromir88]

Han says "Come on baby hold together." (Boro)
-GK- Rog (Vinyamar)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF- *Turgon (Aman)
-DF- *Treebeard (Wold)
-MF- Arien (Valimar)
-MF- Helm (Rohan)
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim) (C)
-FW- Fingon (Eithel Sirion)
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens)
========

--* Treebeard (Wold)
++**Tar Telperien (Numenor)

--Helm (Rohan)

--Fingon (Eithel Sirion)
++Beleg (Mithrim)
++Smaug (Dale)

=======

Han says "Come on baby hold together."
-GK- Rog (Vinyamar)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF- *Turgon (Aman)
-DF- **Tar Telperien (Numenor)
-MF- Arien (Valimar)
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim) (C)
-FW- Beleg (Mithrim)
-FW- Smaug (Dale)
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens)

Predictions done. Team set. Go ahead and send my matches whenever phantom.

[skip spence]

--Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)
++*Meadhros (Eithel Sirion)

-- Hama (Wold)
++ Huor (Gondolin)

++Balrog #3 (Utumno)
(apparently I had entered a team with only ten men


Klong Toey Soi Dogs (Skip)
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)

-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Lightfoot (Wold)
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
-DF - Balrog #3 (Utumno)

-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- Fea (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- *Eöl (Gondolin)

-FW - *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion)
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)
-FW- **Túrin (Mithrim) (C)

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

--Thrain
++Celegorm

[the phantom]

The next round will likely begin in not much more than 24 hours, so get your trades done.

[mormegil]

--Haldir (Doriath)
++Cirion (Rohan)

Insert Clever Name Here
-GK- Eomerwarg (Barrow-Downs)
-DF- Mablung (Ithilien)
-DF- Amroth (Lorien)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- Skip Spence (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- Cirion (Rohan)
-MF- *Beruthiel (Gondor)
-MF- *King of the Dead (Gorgoroth)
-FW- Smaug (Dale)
-FW- *Bombadil (Breeland)
-FW- *Witch King (Dol Guldur) (C)

[Eönwë]

--DF- Amrod (Tirion)
--DF- Drauglin (Thangorodrim)

++*DF- Thorondor (Gondolin)
++ DF- Elurin (Doriath)

Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate
-GK- Dior (Gelion)
-DF- Elurin (Doriath)
-DF- Snowmane (Pelennor)
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)
-DF- Galdor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- **Elros (Numenor)
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens)
-MF- Tar Aldarion (Havens)
-FW- *Tom Bombadil (Breeland) (C)
-FW- Eldacar (Gondor)
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)

[Eönwë]

Actually, on second thoughts...

--Elurin
++Aegnor

Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate
-GK- Dior (Gelion)
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
-DF- Snowmane (Pelennor)
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)
-DF- Galdor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- **Elros (Numenor)
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens)
-MF- Tar Aldarion (Havens)
-FW- *Tom Bombadil (Breeland) (C)
-FW- Eldacar (Gondor)
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)

[satansaloser2005]

--Grishnakh
--Denethor
++Fea (BD)
++Thorondor (Gondolin)



Sally Ho! (Sally)
-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)
-DF- Samwise (Ithilien)
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)
-DF- *Luthien (Gelion)
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- Fea (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- Smaug (Dale)
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs) (Captain, my captain....)
-FW- *Bombadil (Breeland)

[the phantom]

Here is the best possible team one could have owned during the second round-

Ultimate Phantasy Team
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)- 6
-DF- Asfaloth (Gondolin)- 4
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)- 4
-DF- Steve (Barrow-Downs)- 5
-DF- **Tar Telperien (Numenor)- 7
-MF- Nienor (Eithel Sirion)- 6
-MF- Idril (Vinyamar)- 6
-MF- **Finrod (Nargothrond)- 8
-FW- Tilion (Utumno)- 8
-FW- Ancalagon (Thangorodrim)- 8
-FW- Finwe (Tirion) (C)- 10
TOTAL POINTS: 82

So, as always, many points are out there to be claimed. Now let's total up everyone's points and find out what the rankings are after two rounds...

Noggportunistics (Nogrod)
-GK- Theoden (Pelennor)- 2
-DF- Tar Meneldur (Numenor)- 4
-DF- Asfaloth (Gondolin)- 4
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)- 3
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 2
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 4
-MF- *Khamûl (Dol Guldur)- 0
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)- 6
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion) (C)- 4
-FW- Aredhel (Gondolin)- 3
-FW- *Witch King (Dol Guldur)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 40

Han says "Come on baby hold together." (Boro)
-GK- Rog (Vinyamar)- 4
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)- 3
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 3
-DF- *Turgon (Aman)- 2
-DF- **Tar Telperien (Numenor)- 7
-MF- Arien (Valimar)- 1
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)- 4
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim) (C)- 3
-FW- Beleg (Mithrim)- 4
-FW- Smaug (Dale)- -1
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 37

The Lynch Mob (Gwath)
-GK- Rog (Vinyamar)- 4
-DF- Fastred (Gondor)- 2
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)- 3
-DF- Tar Meneldur (Numenor)- 4
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 2
-MF- **Durin’s Bane (Thangorodrim)- 3
-MF- *Hador (Eithel Sirion)- 3
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)- 4
-FW- Beleg (Mithrim)- 4
-FW- Ar Adunakhor (Numenor) (C)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 37

The Howls of Raven’s Run (Shasta)
-GK- Shelob (Gorgoroth)- 2
-DF- **Shadowfax (Bywater)- 2
-DF- *Luthien (Gelion)- 4
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 2
-DF- Eriol (Havens)- -1
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-MF- Thuringwethil (Utumno)- 1
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 4
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion)- 4
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens) (C)- 4
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)- 3
TOTAL POINTS: 29

Magnum (Glirdan)
-GK- Hama (Wold)- 2
-DF- Nessa (Aman)- 1
-DF- Amrod (Tirion)- 0
-DF- *Glaurung (Thangorodrim)- 2
-DF- Lightfoot (Wold)- -1
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim) (C)- 3
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)- 4
-MF- Merry (Rohan)- 0
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)- 4
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)- 7
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 25

The Muffins of Muchness (Wilwa)
-GK- Hama (Wold)- 2
-DF- Nessa (Aman)- 1
-DF- Aegnor (Either Sirion)- 4
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)- 4
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 2
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim)- 3
-MF- Cirion (Rohan)- 0
-MF- Merry (Rohan)- 0
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion) (C)- 4
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)- 7
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 31

The Next-to-Last Alliance (McCaber)
-GK- *Tar Atanamir (Numenor)- 6
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 3
-DF- Nazgul #5 (Barad-Dur)- -1
-DF- Grishnakh (Gorgoroth)- -1
-DF- *Turgon (Aman)- 2
-MF- Tevildo (Utumno)- 1
-MF- The Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 6
-FW- Tuor (Vinaymar)- 4
-FW- Ancalagon (Thangorodrim)- 8
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion) (C)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 36

Sally Ho! (Sally)
-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)- 4
-DF- Samwise (Ithilien)- 0
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)- 4
-DF- *Luthien (Gelion)- 4
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)- 1
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 4
-MF- Fea (Barrow-Downs)- 2
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-FW- Smaug (Dale)- -1
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs) (C)- 4
-FW- *Bombadil (Breeland)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 26

Klong Toey Soi Dogs (Skip)
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)- 6
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)- 3
-DF- Lightfoot (Wold)- -1
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)- 4
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 3
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-MF- Fea (Barrow-Downs)- 2
-MF- *Eöl (Gondolin)- 6
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion)- 4
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 0
-FW- **Túrin (Mithrim) (C)- 7
TOTAL POINTS: 41

Nerwen's Noble Achievers (Nerwen)
-GK- Shelob (Gorgoroth)- 2
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)- 4
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)- 3
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)- 4
-DF- *Glaurung (Thangorodrim)- 2
-MF- Ingwë (Tirion)- 0
-MF- Idril (Vinyamar)- 6
-MF- *Eöl (Gondolin)- 6
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs)- 4
-FW- Legolas (Pelennor)- 4
-FW- **Feanor (Tirion) (C)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 43

Annihilationistic Anomalies (Eomer)
-GK- Hama (Wold)- 2
-DF- Nimrodel (Lorien)- -1
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)- 3
-DF- Gothmog II (Pelennor)- 0
-DF- *Treebeard (Wold)- 0
-MF- Goldberry (Breeland)- 0
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 4
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 6
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)- 4
-FW- Isildur (Barad-Dur)- 4
-FW- Mablung (Nargothrond)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 30

Insert Clever Name Here (Morm)
-GK- Eomerwarg (Barrow-Downs)- 4
-DF- Mablung (Ithilien)- 0
-DF- Amroth (Lorien)- 0
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 2
-DF- Skip Spence (Barrow-Downs)- 2
-MF- Cirion (Rohan)- 0
-MF- *Beruthiel (Gondor)- 3
-MF- *King of the Dead (Gorgoroth)- 5
-FW- Smaug (Dale)- -1
-FW- *Bombadil (Breeland)- 0
-FW- *Witch King (Dol Guldur) (C)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 23

Fea-Ni (Fea/Nienna)
-GK- Nienna (Aman)- 4
-DF- *Glaurung (Thangorodrim)- 2
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)- 3
-DF- Snowmane (Pelennor)- -1
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 2
-MF- Fimbrethil (Lorien)- 0
-MF- Thuringwethil (Utumno)- 1
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens) (C)- 0
-FW- **Feanor (Tirion)- 4
-FW- Imrahil (Pelennor)- 3
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 18

Ben Jonson (Lari)
-GK- *Melian (Doriath)- 2
-DF- Vána (Valimar)- 4
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)- 1
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)- 2
-DF- Windfola (Pelennor)- -1
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens)- 0
-MF- Elboron (Ithilien)- 0
-MF- Morwen (Mithrim)- -1
-FW- *Maeglin (Gondolin)- 4
-FW- Faramir (Ithilien)- 0
-FW- Éowyn (Pelennor) (C)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 11

Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate (Steve)
-GK- Dior (Gelion)- 6
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)- 4
-DF- Snowmane (Pelennor)- -1
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)- 4
-DF- Galdor (Eithel Sirion)- 3
-MF- **Elros (Numenor)- 4
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens)- 0
-MF- Tar Aldarion (Havens)- -1
-FW- *Tom Bombadil (Breeland) (C)- 0
-FW- Eldacar (Gondor)- 3
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)- 3
TOTAL POINTS: 25


Round 2 Point Totals
Nerwen's Noble Achievers- 43
Klong Toey Soi Dogs- 41
Noggportunistics- 40
The Lynch Mob- 37
Han says "Come on baby hold together."- 37
The Next-to-Last Alliance- 36
The Muffins of Muchness- 31
Annihilationistic Anomalies- 30
The Howls of Raven’s Run- 29
Sally Ho!- 26
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate- 25
Magnum- 25
Insert Clever Name Here- 23
Fea-Ni- 18
Ben Jonson- 11

Total Points Standings
Noggportunistics- 98
Han says "Come on baby hold together."- 83
The Lynch Mob- 80
Nerwen's Noble Achievers- 75
Klong Toey Soi Dogs- 73
The Howls of Raven’s Run- 71
The Muffins of Muchness- 70
The Next-to-Last Alliance- 69
Magnum- 64
Sally Ho!- 59
Annihilationistic Anomalies- 57
Insert Clever Name Here- 50
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate- 45
Fea-Ni- 43
Ben Jonson- 31

You have unlimited trades before round three. This is the LAST time you will have unlimited trades, so you're going to want to select mostly players who look likely to advance to the playoffs so that your roster isn't completely wiped out.
You may now feature SIX stars on your squad.

[the phantom]

After the third round you will only be allowed seven trades (i.e. four of your players must stay), so you do not under any circumstances want more than seven players on your team in this round whose teams have already been eliminated from advancing. The following teams have already been eliminated-
Misty Mountains
Lorien
Doriath
Wold
Minas Anor

If you're looking for safe picks, the following teams are already guaranteed to enter the playoffs-
Mithrim
Utumno
Valimar
Gondolin
Gondor
Tirion

[the phantom]

Just a couple points of interest- after round 2 of last year's Arda Cup the eventual winner (Skip) was in the back half of the rankings (10th place to be specific).

Nog and Boro occupy the top two spots after round 2, same as last year, and Nerwen is in 4th just like last year.

[mormegil]

I think I've cursed myself for not putting the cursed one on my team.

Here is what it will look like after the retooling

++Ancalagon (Thangorodrim)
--Bombadil (Breeland)

++**Turin (Mithrim)---New Captain
--Smaug (Dale)

++Asfaloth (Gondolin)
--Amroth (Lorien)

++ Alatar (Valimar)
--Mablung (Ithilien)

Insert Clever Name Here
-GK- Eomerwarg (Barrow-Downs)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Asfaloth ( Gondolin)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- Skip Spence (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- Cirion (Rohan)
-MF- *Beruthiel (Gondor)
-MF- *King of the Dead (Gorgoroth)
-FW- **Turin (Mirthrim) (C)
-FW- Ancalagon (Thangorodrim)
-FW- *Witch King (Dol Guldur)

[Shastanis Althreduin]

The Howls of Raven’s Run (Shasta)
-GK- Shelob (Gorgoroth)
-DF- **Shadowfax (Bywater)
-DF- *Luthien (Gelion)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- Eriol (Havens)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- Thuringwethil (Utumno)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion)
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens) (C)
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)

------------------

--Eriol (Havens)
--*Luthien (Gelion)
++Rochallor (Gondolin)
++Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)


--Thuringwethil (Utumno)
++*Beruthiel (Gondor)

--Hurin (Mithrim)
++*Miriel (Tirion)

-------------------

The Howls of Raven’s Run (Shasta)
-GK- Shelob (Gorgoroth)
-DF- **Shadowfax (Bywater)
-DF- Rochallor (Gondolin)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- *Beruthiel (Gondor)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion)
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens) (C)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)

[Gwathagor]

--
Rog
Fastred
Tar Meneldur
Durin's Bane
Beleg
Ar Adunakhor

++
Eomerwarg
Salmar
Anarion
Nerdanel
Turin
Tilion


GK: Eomerwarg (Barrow-downs)
DF: Salmar (Vinyamar)
DF: Alatar (Valimar)
DF: Anarion (Barad-dur)
DF: *Celegorm (Mithrim)
MF: *Nerdanel (Tirion)
MF: *Hador (Eithel Sirion)
MF: The Phantom (Barrow-downs)
FW: *Miriel (Tirion) (C)
FW: **Turin (Mithrim)
FW: Tilion (Utumno)

[Nerwen]

Nerwen's Noble Achievers, Round 3
-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- Idril (Vinyamar)
-MF- *Eöl (Gondolin)
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- Finwë (Tirion)
-FW- **Feanor (Tirion) (C)




--Ingwë
++Glorfindel

--Legolas
++Finwë

--Shelob
++Huan

--Glaurung
++Balrog #3

[skip spence]

Transfers:

Out: Lightfoot (Wold);
In :Celegorm (Mithrim)


Klong Toey Soi Dogs (Skip)
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)

-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
-DF - Balrog #3 (Utumno)

-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- Fea (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- *Eöl (Gondolin)

-FW - *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion)
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)
-FW- **Túrin (Mithrim) (C)

[Nogrod]

Noggportunistics

-GK – Theoden (Pelennor)

-DF – Tar Meneldur (Numenor)
-DF – Asfaloth (Gondolin)
-DF – Alatar (Valimar)
-DF – *Celegorm (Mithrim)

-MF – Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF – *Khamûl (Dol Guldur)
-MF – *Nerdanel (Tirion)

FW - *Witch King (Dol Guldur)
-FW – *Miriel (Tirion) (C)
-FW – Aredhel (Gondolin)



-- GK - Theoden (Pelennor)
++ GK - Aulë (Tirion)

-- DF - Alatar (Valimar)
++ DF - **Manwë (Valimar)

-- DF – *Celegorm (Mithrim)
++ DF - **Curufin (Mithrim)

-- MF – *Khamûl (Dol Guldur)
++ MF - the phantom (Barrow Downs)

-- FW - *Witch King (Dol Guldur)
++ FW - Tar Minastir (Havens)

-- FW - Aredhel (Gondolin)
++ FW - Nogrod (Barrow'Downs)


So the new team is like this...

Noggportunistics

-GK – Aulë (Tirion)

-DF – Tar Meneldur (Numenor)
-DF – Asfaloth (Gondolin)
-DF – **Manwë (Valimar)
-DF – **Curufin (Mithrim)

-MF – Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF – the phantom (Barrow Downs)
-MF – *Nerdanel (Tirion)

-FW - Tar Minastir (Havens)
-FW – *Miriel (Tirion) (C)
-FW – Nogrod (Barrow Downs)

[the phantom]

Since this is the last chance for unlimited trades, I won't rush you. I also wish to give the mods (and anyone else who wants to) time to write some sort of preview for the final round of group play. You have two days for certain. Probably three.

[mormegil]

--WK
++Miriel

Insert Clever Name Here
-GK- Eomerwarg (Barrow-Downs)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Asfaloth ( Gondolin)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- Skip Spence (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- Cirion (Rohan)
-MF- *Beruthiel (Gondor)
-MF- *King of the Dead (Gorgoroth)
-FW- **Turin (Mirthrim) (C)
-FW- Ancalagon (Thangorodrim)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)

[Boromir88]

Han says "Come on baby hold together."
-GK- Rog (Vinyamar)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF- *Turgon (Aman)
-DF- **Tar Telperien (Numenor)
-MF- Arien (Valimar)
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim) (C)
-FW- Beleg (Mithrim)
-FW- Smaug (Dale)
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens)

-----

--**Tar Telperien (Numenor)
++*Luthien (Gelion)

--Arien (Valimar)
++**Melkor (Utumno)
++Glorfindel (Gondolin)

--Smaug (Dale)
-------

Han says "Come on baby hold together."
-GK- Rog (Vinyamar)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF- *Turgon (Aman)
-DF- *Luthien (Gelion)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim) (C)
-FW- Beleg (Mithrim)
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens)

[Gwathagor]

GK: Eomerwarg (Barrow-downs)
DF: Salmar (Vinyamar)
DF: Alatar (Valimar)
DF: Anarion (Barad-dur)
DF: *Celegorm (Mithrim)
MF: *Nerdanel (Tirion)
MF: *Hador (Eithel Sirion)
MF: The Phantom (Barrow-downs)
FW: *Miriel (Tirion) (C)
FW: **Turin (Mithrim)
FW: Tilion (Utumno)

Good thing we still have unlimited trades.

--Alatar
--Anarion
--Phantom
--Tilion

++Balrog #3
++Celebrian
++Glorfindel
++Tar Minastir

Which leaves us with:


GK: Eomerwarg (Barrow-downs)

DF: Salmar (Vinyamar)
DF: Balrog #3 (Utumno)
DF: Celebrian (Rivendell)
DF: *Celegorm (Mithrim)

MF: *Nerdanel (Tirion)
MF: *Hador (Eithel Sirion)
MF: Glorfindel (Gondolin)

FW: *Miriel (Tirion) (C)
FW: **Turin (Mithrim)
FW: Tar Minastir (Havens)

[Nerwen]

Wait, a last-minute change!

Nerwen's Noble Achievers, Round 3
-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- Idril (Vinyamar)
-MF- *Eöl (Gondolin)
-FW- Finwë (Tirion)
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion) (C)
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)


--Fëanor
--Vanilwa Muffin
++Turin
++Maedhros

I think the ongoing "Who killed Lalaith?" (http://www.forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=16457) debate should provide these two with a useful amount of surplus rage to take out on the opposition. Besides, it fits in well with the overall dynamics of my team, don't you think?

...And I'm totally not doing this just to annoy Urwen. How could you think such a thing?:Merisu:

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Last minute change for me as well.

The Howls of Raven’s Run
-GK- Shelob (Gorgoroth)
-DF- **Shadowfax (Bywater)
-DF- Rochallor (Gondolin)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- *Beruthiel (Gondor)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion)
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens) (C)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)


----------------------------

--Shelob (Gorgoroth)
++Huor (Gondolin)

----------------------------

The Howls of Raven’s Run
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)
-DF- **Shadowfax (Bywater)
-DF- Rochallor (Gondolin)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- *Beruthiel (Gondor)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion)
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens) (C)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)

[McCaber]

-- Nazgul #5 (Gorgoroth)
-- Grishnakh (Gorgoroth)
-- The Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-- Tevildo (Utumno)

++ Celegorm (Mithrim)
++ Ecthelion (Gondolin)
++ Elros (Numenor)
++ Elendil (Barad-Dur)

The Next-to-Last Alliance
-GK- *Tar Atanamir (Numenor)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF- Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- Ecthelion (Gondolin)
-DF- *Turgon (Aman)
-MF- Elendil (Barad-Dur)
-MF- ** Elros (Numenor)
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)
-FW- Tuor (Vinaymar)
-FW- Ancalagon (Thangorodrim)
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion) (C)

[the phantom]

Ready or not, round 3 begins in less than twelve hours. Good luck.

[Eönwë]

Ah! Too late!

[Nogrod]

Ah! Too late!If you don't trade off or take in players from groups A & C (at the moment) I'd say you could still go for your changes... but as new groups start pouring in the less to choose you would have...

Well, tp decides, but if I was you I would consider at least trying to make my changes (those that do not involve players whose actions have been revealed already).

[the phantom]

Quite right, Nog. It is acceptable to trade players, so long as neither has played yet.

[satansaloser2005]

So I haven't looked at anything 'cause I haven't had a chance. That being said, if any of this is illegal or something let me know and I'll fix it. Thanks!

What was:

-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)
-DF- Samwise (Ithilien)
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)
-DF- *Luthien (Gelion)
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- Fea (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- Smaug (Dale)
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs) (Captain, my captain....)
-FW- *Bombadil (Breeland)


--Thorondor
--Luthien
--Glorfindel
--Smaug
--Bombadil

++Alatar
++Grishnakh (meh, I fancy it)
++Melkor
++Eomer
++Turin


What will be:

-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)
-DF- Samwise (Ithilien)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Grishnakh (Gorgoroth)
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)
-MF- Fea (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- Eomer (Rohan)
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs) (C)
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)

[Shastanis Althreduin]

So I haven't looked at anything 'cause I haven't had a chance. That being said, if any of this is illegal or something let me know and I'll fix it. Thanks!

What was:

-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)
-DF- Samwise (Ithilien)
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)
-DF- *Luthien (Gelion)
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- Fea (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- Smaug (Dale)
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs) (Captain, my captain....)
-FW- *Bombadil (Breeland)


--Thorondor
--Luthien
--Glorfindel
--Smaug
--Bombadil

++Alatar
++Grishnakh (meh, I fancy it)
++Melkor
++Eomer
++Turin


What will be:

-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)
-DF- Samwise (Ithilien)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Grishnakh (Gorgoroth)
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)
-MF- Fea (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- Eomer (Rohan)
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs) (C)
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)

Well, Mithrim's scores are already up so I know you can't trade for Turin. I think that's it, though.

[Eönwë]

A few minor improvements...

--DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
--FW- Eldacar (Gondor)

++*DF- Turgon (Aman)
++FW- Finwe (Tirion)



Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate
-GK- Dior (Gelion)
-DF- *Turgon (Aman)
-DF- Snowmane (Pelennor)
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)
-DF- Galdor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- **Elros (Numenor)
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens)
-MF- Tar Aldarion (Havens)
-FW- *Tom Bombadil (Breeland) (C)
-FW- Finwe (Tirion)
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)

[Boromir88]

Yep sally, Turin's already played. Also Eonwe, Aman and Turgon's results have already been posted. So, from what I understand you'll both have to pick someone else (groups B, E, D, F, G, H aren't up yet) or keep someone you just tried to trade.

I have Group B ready to go, but will hold off on posting the results, to give you two the chance to straighten out your trades. At least for a bit. :)

[Eönwë]

Yep sally, Turin's already played. Also Eonwe, Aman and Turgon's results have already been posted. So, from what I understand you'll both have to pick someone else (groups B, E, D, F, G, H aren't up yet) or keep someone you just tried to trade.

I have Group B ready to go, but will hold off on posting the results, to give you two the chance to straighten out your trades. At least for a bit. :)

Ok then...

---DF- *Turgon (Aman)
++*DF- Angrod (Eithel Sirion)

Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate
-GK- Dior (Gelion)
-DF- *Angrod (Eithel Sirion)
-DF- Snowmane (Pelennor)
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)
-DF- Galdor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- **Elros (Numenor)
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens)
-MF- Tar Aldarion (Havens)
-FW- *Tom Bombadil (Breeland) (C)
-FW- Finwe (Tirion)
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)


And now to sleep...

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Ok then...

---DF- *Turgon (Aman)
++*DF- Angrod (Eithel Sirion)

Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate
-GK- Dior (Gelion)
-DF- *Angrod (Eithel Sirion)
-DF- Snowmane (Pelennor)
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)
-DF- Galdor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- **Elros (Numenor)
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens)
-MF- Tar Aldarion (Havens)
-FW- *Tom Bombadil (Breeland) (C)
-FW- Finwe (Tirion)
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)


And now to sleep...

You can't trade out Turgon because Aman has already played.

[the phantom]

Steve never actually owned Turgon since his first trade was invalid, so his sending Turgon away is fine, as it is technically a trade of Aegnor for Angrod.

[Gwathagor]

GK: Eomerwarg (Barrow-downs)

DF: Salmar (Vinyamar)
DF: Balrog #3 (Utumno)
DF: Celebrian (Rivendell)
DF: *Celegorm (Mithrim)

MF: *Nerdanel (Tirion)
MF: *Hador (Eithel Sirion)
MF: Glorfindel (Gondolin)

FW: *Miriel (Tirion) (C)
FW: **Turin (Mithrim)
FW: Tar Minastir (Havens)


--Glorfindel
++Uinen


GK: Eomerwarg (Barrow-downs)

DF: Salmar (Vinyamar)
DF: Balrog #3 (Utumno)
DF: Celebrian (Rivendell)
DF: *Celegorm (Mithrim)

MF: *Nerdanel (Tirion)
MF: *Hador (Eithel Sirion)
MF: Uinen (Havens)

FW: *Miriel (Tirion) (C)
FW: **Turin (Mithrim)
FW: Tar Minastir (Havens)

[Boromir88]

The round that I decide to dump Arien...she gets 16 points. CURSESSSSSSSS! *dies*

[mormegil]

The round that I decide to dump Arien...she gets 16 points. CURSESSSSSSSS! *dies*

The round I get rid of 'ole dead weight Bombadil', he goes off like Goldberry's life depended upon it. This is the same kind of luck I have in real life at fantasy football.

[Eönwë]

Maybe I should've put my namesake on my team... at least then the teamname would've been more appropriate!

[the phantom]

Yes, I believe Boro has everyone beat in the could've/should've competition. That's about the worst bit of luck and timing I've ever seen. The only saving grace is that no one else owned her either.

Just think guys- if Arien had been your captain you would've scored 32 points!!

[Gwathagor]

Don't rub it in.

[satansaloser2005]

Crap, sorry, I forgot to check the Downs again yesterDay. I'm assuming it's the best thing to just not trade out Bombadil then, since everyone's now played?

*doesn't know*

[the phantom]

Yes, Bombadil has already played. Don't trade him until after the third round has been officially declared over.
Don't rub it in.
Oh, shush. You're doing quite well. Remember, after the third round is over I add in the group prediction points, and you were tops in that department, so you have nothing to complain about. ;)

Boro's the one with serious beef.

Rune's quality beef, perhaps?

[satansaloser2005]

Yes, Bombadil has already played. Don't trade him until after the third round has been officially declared over.

Okay cool. I'll just cancel the Bombadil for Turin trade and I should be fine?

If so....Round three....

-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)
-DF- Samwise (Ithilien)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Grishnakh (Gorgoroth)
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)
-MF- Fea (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- Eomer (Rohan)
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs) (C)
-FW- *Bombadil (Breeland)

[the phantom]

Sorry Sally. What I meant was, you can't do any sort of trading involving Bombadil until after the third round. If Bombadil was the one on your team in the first place, he's still on your team. Seeing as Breeland has been eliminated, I doubt you'll be keeping Bombadil on your team, but you'll have to wait to boot him just a bit.

And just to make it clear for everyone, no one can make any trades whatsoever at present. Nothing. Not until the third round is declared over by a mod.

[Gwathagor]

I was under the impression that players could still be traded if they had not played. Did I make my Glorfindel-Uinen trade in error?

[the phantom]

I hadn't outlawed trades before that point Gwath, so your trade is accepted. I was just making sure there weren't any more, since allowing trades after play in a round is more of a courtesy than a plan (it is done primarily for the benefit of those who have not had time to make any trades- in this case I specifically had Eonwe in mind when I made my comment about allowing trades). Once the playoffs begin the rule will be more hard and fast (more than likely the only people I'll allow to make trades during play will be those people who made no trades at all that round, and even then I may not allow the full amount of trades). You see, there are possible strategic advantages such as looking at how you are faring and deciding whether or not to take a risk, or looking at who has won another group/match and thus knowing who the unplayed group/match will draw in the next round of the playoffs etc.

[satansaloser2005]

I hadn't outlawed trades before that point Gwath, so your trade is accepted. I was just making sure there weren't any more, since allowing trades after play in a round is more of a courtesy than a plan (it was done primarily for the benefit of those who had not had time to make any trades). Once the playoffs begin the rule will be more hard and fast (more than likely the only people I'll allow to make trades during play will be those people who made no trades at all that round, and even then I may not allow the full amount of trades). You see, there are possible strategic advantages such as looking at how you are faring and deciding whether or not to take a risk, or looking at who has won another group/match and thus knowing who the unplayed group/match will draw in the next round of the playoffs etc.


Whoops, sorry. I thought trading Turin in was illegal because I was late so I undid it. But if it's fine with you I'd obviously prefer it. Thanks for clarifying!

[Gwathagor]

A courtesy, ok, makes sense, phantom. I promise not to take advantage of that anymore.

[Nogrod]

Also I woud say that tp should make the final call for the deadline 24 hours rather than 12 hours before it (I think a few players were in problems because they hadn't realised the DL as 12 hours is quite a short notice). But the players should also check up the deadlines a bit more often just to avoid this kind of confusions. 24 hours should be enough for everyone as there sure is some general idea about when the next round will start (the results must come in, people must make their changes etc.).

Joining the contest of whining about bad choices... I traded the Witch King off... he made nice 10 points. :mad:

[the phantom]

Noggportunistics (Nogrod)
-GK- Aulë (Tirion)- 4
-DF- Tar Meneldur (Numenor)- 1
-DF- Asfaloth (Gondolin)- 2
-DF- **Manwë (Valimar)- 0
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)- 4
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 0
-MF- Phantom (Barrow Downs)- 3
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)- 8
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens)- 4
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion) (C)- 3
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow Downs)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 36

Han says "Come on baby hold together." (Boro)
-GK- Rog (Vinyamar)- 4
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)- 0
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- *Turgon (Aman)- 4
-DF- *Luthien (Gelion)- 2
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 0
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)- 1
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)- 4
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim) (C)- 3
-FW- Beleg (Mithrim)- 3
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 32

The Lynch Mob (Gwath)
-GK- Eomerwarg (Barrow-downs)- 4
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)- 4
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- Celebrian (Rivendell)- 2
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 3
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)- 8
-MF- *Hador (Eithel Sirion)- 6
-MF- Uinen (Havens)- -1
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion) (C)- 3
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)- 7
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 47

The Howls of Raven’s Run (Shasta)
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)- 4
-DF- **Shadowfax (Bywater)- 4
-DF- Rochallor (Gondolin)- 2
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 3
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)- 4
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 3
-MF- *Beruthiel (Gondor)- -1
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 0
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion)- 7
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens) (C)- 4
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)- 3
TOTAL POINTS: 37

Magnum (Glirdan)
-GK- Hama (Wold)- 0
-DF- Nessa (Aman)- 4
-DF- Amrod (Tirion)- 1
-DF- *Glaurung (Thangorodrim)- -3
-DF- Lightfoot (Wold)- 0
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim) (C)- 3
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)- 1
-MF- Merry (Rohan)- 0
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)- 3
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)- 4
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 20

The Muffins of Muchness (Wilwa)
-GK- Hama (Wold)- 0
-DF- Nessa (Aman)- 4
-DF- Aegnor (Either Sirion)- 4
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)- 1
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 3
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim)- 3
-MF- Cirion (Rohan)- 0
-MF- Merry (Rohan)- 0
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion) (C)- 3
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)- 4
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 29

The Next-to-Last Alliance (McCaber)
-GK- *Tar Atanamir (Numenor)- 4
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 3
-DF- *Turgon (Aman)- 4
-MF- Ecthelion (Gondolin)- 0
-MF- Elendil (Barad-Dur)- -1
-MF- ** Elros (Numenor)- 0
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 0
-FW- Tuor (Vinaymar)- 3
-FW- Ancalagon (Thangorodrim)- 7
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion) (C)- 7
TOTAL POINTS: 30 (star penalty & formation penalty -8)

Sally Ho! (Sally)
-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)- 4
-DF- Samwise (Ithilien)- 2
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)- 0
-DF- Grishnakh (Gorgoroth)- -1
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)- 0
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)- 4
-MF- Fea (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 3
-FW- Eomer (Rohan)- 0
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs) (C)- 7
-FW- *Bombadil (Breeland)- 8
TOTAL POINTS: 34

Klong Toey Soi Dogs (Skip)
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)- 4
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)- 0
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 3
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)- 4
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 4
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 3
-MF- Fea (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-MF- *Eöl (Gondolin)- 0
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion)- 7
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 4
-FW- **Túrin (Mithrim) (C)- 7
TOTAL POINTS: 43

Nerwen's Noble Achievers (Nerwen)
-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)- 4
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)- 4
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)- 0
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)- 4
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 4
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 0
-MF- Idril (Vinyamar)- 1
-MF- *Eöl (Gondolin)- 0
-FW- Finwë (Tirion)- 4
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion) (C)- 7
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)- 7
TOTAL POINTS: 42

Annihilationistic Anomalies (Eomer)
-GK- Hama (Wold)- 0
-DF- Nimrodel (Lorien)- 0
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- Gothmog II (Pelennor)- 0
-DF- *Treebeard (Wold)- 0
-MF- Goldberry (Breeland)- 0
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 0
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 0
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)- 4
-FW- Isildur (Barad-Dur)- 6
-FW- Mablung (Nargothrond)- 3
TOTAL POINTS: 21

Insert Clever Name Here (Morm)
-GK- Eomerwarg (Barrow-Downs)- 4
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)- 0
-DF- Asfaloth ( Gondolin)- 2
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 3
-DF- Skip Spence (Barrow-Downs)- 8
-MF- Cirion (Rohan)- 0
-MF- *Beruthiel (Gondor)- -1
-MF- *King of the Dead (Gorgoroth)- 0
-FW- **Turin (Mirthrim) (C)- 7
-FW- Ancalagon (Thangorodrim)- 7
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)- 3
TOTAL POINTS: 40

Fea-Ni (Fea/Nienna)
-GK- Nienna (Aman)- 6
-DF- *Glaurung (Thangorodrim)- -3
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- Snowmane (Pelennor)- -1
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 3
-MF- Fimbrethil (Lorien)- 0
-MF- Thuringwethil (Utumno)- 1
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens) (C)- 3
-FW- **Feanor (Tirion)- 7
-FW- Imrahil (Pelennor)- -1
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 26

Ben Jonson (Lari)
-GK- *Melian (Doriath)- 6
-DF- Vána (Valimar)- -1
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)- 0
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)- 4
-DF- Windfola (Pelennor)- -1
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens)- 3
-MF- Elboron (Ithilien)- 0
-MF- Morwen (Mithrim)- 0
-FW- *Maeglin (Gondolin)- 0
-FW- Faramir (Ithilien)- 0
-FW- Éowyn (Pelennor) (C)- 3
TOTAL POINTS: 17

Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate (Steve)
-GK- Dior (Gelion)- 4
-DF- *Angrod (Eithel Sirion)- 3
-DF- Snowmane (Pelennor)- -1
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)- 1
-DF- Galdor (Eithel Sirion)- 3
-MF- **Elros (Numenor)- 0
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens)- 3
-MF- Tar Aldarion (Havens)- 0
-FW- *Tom Bombadil (Breeland) (C)- 8
-FW- Finwe (Tirion)- 4
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 33

Round 3 Point Totals
The Lynch Mob- 47
Klong Toey Soi Dogs- 43
Nerwen's Noble Achievers- 42
Insert Clever Name Here- 40
The Howls of Raven’s Run- 37
Noggportunistics- 36
Sally Ho!- 34
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate- 33
Han says "Come on baby hold together."- 32
The Next-to-Last Alliance- 30
The Muffins of Muchness- 29
Fea-Ni- 26
Annihilationistic Anomalies- 21
Magnum- 20
Ben Jonson- 17

Point Standings After Three Rounds
Noggportunistics- 134
The Lynch Mob- 127
Nerwen's Noble Achievers- 117
Klong Toey Soi Dogs- 116
Han says "Come on baby hold together."- 115
The Howls of Raven’s Run- 108
The Next-to-Last Alliance- 99
The Muffins of Muchness- 99
Sally Ho!- 93
Insert Clever Name Here- 90
Magnum- 84
Annihilationistic Anomalies- 78
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate- 78
Fea-Ni- 69
Ben Jonson- 48

Ah, but don’t forget about group prediction points! Everyone predicted how the groups would turn out, and now that the group stage is over we can award points for that. Gwath was the highest point gainer on group predictions, pulling in 27 points of the possible 32!

Total Point Standings After Group Predictions
Noggportunistics- 158
The Lynch Mob- 154
Klong Toey Soi Dogs- 138
Han says "Come on baby hold together."- 138
Nerwen's Noble Achievers- 136
The Howls of Raven’s Run- 125
The Next-to-Last Alliance- 119
The Muffins of Muchness- 110
Sally Ho!- 111
Insert Clever Name Here- 108
Annihilationistic Anomalies- 102
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate- 99
Magnum- 90
Fea-Ni- 76
Ben Jonson- 56

And as always I will show you what the best possible point combination was for the last round. There was a whopping 100 points out there for the taking!

Ultimate Phantasy Team
-GK- Cotton (Bywater)- 6
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)- 4
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- Amlaith (Norbury)- 4
-DF- Skip (Barrow-Downs)- 8
-MF- Maggot (Bywater)- 9
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)- 8
-MF- Arien (Valimar) (C)- 16
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs)- 7
-FW- *Bombadil (Breeland)- 8
-FW- *Witch King (Dol Guldur)- 10
TOTAL POINTS: 100

[the phantom]

You are allowed SEVEN trades.
You may feature SEVEN stars on your roster.

The playoff match-ups are set, and you can gain extra points by predicting who the winners will be. Each game is worth one point, so an extra eight points are out there for the taking.

Vinyamar vs Dol Guldur
Barrow-Downs vs Gondor
Mithrim vs Bywater
Eithel Sirion vs Numenor
Utumno vs Gelion
Valimar vs Norbury
Gondolin vs Barad-Dur
Tirion vs Aman

(A note on penalties- should you exceed the star limit, the highest number of points a star player scored for you will be removed from your score. Should you feature an illegal formation, 1/11th of your points rounded up will be removed. In the first occurrence this tournament I was merciful, as I ignored the doubled point total for captaincy and thus only removed half of the gained points, and removing but one point for the formation, causing the penalty to be 8 points rather than 18.)

[Shastanis Althreduin]

The Howls of Raven’s Run
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)
-DF- **Shadowfax (Bywater)
-DF- Rochallor (Gondolin)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- *Beruthiel (Gondor)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion)
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens) (C)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)

-------------------
--Tar Minastir (Havens) (FW)
--*Beruthiel (Gondor) (MF)
--Glorfindel (Gondolin) (MF)
--Rochallor (Gondolin) (DF)

++Arien (Valimar) (MF)
++*Nerdanel (Tirion) (MF)
++Hurin (Mithrim) (FW)
++*Angrod (Eithel Sirion) (DF)
-------------------

The Howls of Raven's Run
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)
-DF- **Shadowfax (Bywater)
-DF- *Angrod (Eithel Sirion)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)
-MF- Arien (Valimar)
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion) (C)
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)


-------------------

Predictions

Vinyamar vs Dol Guldur - Vinyamar
Barrow-Downs vs Gondor - Barrow-Downs
Mithrim vs Bywater - Mithrim
Eithel Sirion vs Numenor - Eithel Sirion
Utumno vs Gelion - Utumno
Valimar vs Norbury - Valimar
Gondolin vs Barad-Dur - Gondolin
Tirion vs Aman - Tirion

[wilwarin538]

The way it was:

-GK- Hama (Wold)
-DF- Nessa (Aman)
-DF- Aegnor (Either Sirion)
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim)
-MF- Cirion (Rohan)
-MF- Merry (Rohan)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion) (C)
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

-- MF Cirion
-- MF Merry
-- GK Hama
-- MF ** Durin's Bane
-- DF * Thorondor
-- FW Fingolfin

++ MF ** Melkor (Utumno)
++ MF Maggot (Bywater)
++ GK * Tar Atanamir (Numenor)
++ MF * Nerdanel (Tirion)
++ DF Balrog #3 (Utumno)
++ FW * Witch King (Dol Guldur)

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

How it is now:

-GK- * Tar Atanamir (Numenor)
-DF- Nessa (Aman)
-DF- Aegnor (Either Sirion)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF- * Celegorm (Mithrim)
-MF- * Nerdanel (Tirion)
-MF- ** Melkor (Utumno) (C)
-MF- Maggot (Bywater)
-FW- * Miriel (Tirion)
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- * Witch King (Dol Guldur)

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

Predictions:

Vinyamar vs Dol Guldur - Dol Guldur
Barrow-Downs vs Gondor - Barrow-Downs
Mithrim vs Bywater - Mithrim
Eithel Sirion vs Numenor - Eithel Sirion
Utumno vs Gelion - Gelion
Valimar vs Norbury - Valimar
Gondolin vs Barad-Dur - Gondolin
Tirion vs Aman - Tirion

[mormegil]

Insert Clever Name Here
-GK- Eomerwarg (Barrow-Downs)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Asfaloth ( Gondolin)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- Skip Spence (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- Cirion (Rohan)
-MF- *Beruthiel (Gondor)
-MF- *King of the Dead (Gorgoroth)
-FW- **Turin (Mirthrim) (C)
-FW- Ancalagon (Thangorodrim)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)
--MF Cirion (Rohan)
--MF *King of the Dead (Gorgoroth)
--FW Ancalagon (Thangorodrim)
--MF *Beruthiel (Gondor)


++MF *Nerdanel (Tirion)
++MF Phantom (Barrow Downs)
++ FW **Sauron (Barad-Dur)
++ MF Nazgul #7 (Barad-Dur)

Predictions: (winners in bold)
Vinyamar vs Dol Guldur
Barrow-Downs vs Gondor
Mithrim vs Bywater
Eithel Sirion vs Numenor
Utumno vs Gelion
Valimar vs Norbury
Gondolin vs Barad-Dur
Tirion vs Aman

New Team:

Insert Clever Name Here
-GK- Eomerwarg (Barrow-Downs)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Asfaloth ( Gondolin)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- Skip Spence (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow Downs)
-MF- Nazgul #7 (Barad-Dur)
-FW- **Turin (Mirthrim) (C)
-FW- **Sauron (Barad-Dur)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)

[Gwathagor]

GK: Eomerwarg (Barrow-downs)

DF: Salmar (Vinyamar)
DF: Balrog #3 (Utumno)
DF: Celebrian (Rivendell)
DF: *Celegorm (Mithrim)

MF: *Nerdanel (Tirion)
MF: *Hador (Eithel Sirion)
MF: Uinen (Havens)

FW: *Miriel (Tirion) (C)
FW: **Turin (Mithrim)
FW: Tar Minastir (Havens)

--
Eomerwarg
Salmar
Celebrian
*Hador
Uinen
Tar Minastir

++
Huor
Skip
Alatar
**Melkor
Arien
Tilion

UPDATED LYNCH MOB
GK: Huor (Gondolin)
DF: Skip (Barrow-downs)
DF: Balrog #3 (Utumno)
DF: *Celegorm (Mithrim)
DF: Alatar (Valimar)
MF: *Nerdanel (Tirion)
MF: **Melkor (Utumno)
MF: Arien (Valimar)
FW: *Miriel (Tirion) (C)
FW: **Turin (Mithrim)
FW: Tilion (Utumno)




PREDICTIONS
Vinyamar vs Dol Guldur=Vinyamar
Barrow-Downs vs Gondor=Barrow-downs
Mithrim vs Bywater=Mithrim
Eithel Sirion vs Numenor=Numenor
Utumno vs Gelion=Utumno
Valimar vs Norbury=Valimar
Gondolin vs Barad-Dur=Barad-dur
Tirion vs Aman=Tirion

[skip spence]

Transfers:

Out: Fingolfin (Eithel Sirion); Alatar (Valimar)

In: **Balrog #4 (Utumno); Finwe (Tirion)


Klong Toey Soi Dogs (Skip)
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)

-DF- **Balrog #4 (Utumno)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF - Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
-DF - Balrog #3 (Utumno)

-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- Fea (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- *Eöl (Gondolin)

-FW - *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion)
-FW - Finwe (Tirion)
-FW - **Túrin (Mithrim) (C)

PREDICTIONS
Vinyamar vs Dol Guldur= Vinyamar
Barrow-Downs vs Gondor= Barrow-Downs
Mithrim vs Bywater= Mithrim
Eithel Sirion vs Numenor= Eithel Sirion
Utumno vs Gelion= Utumno
Valimar vs Norbury= Valimar
Gondolin vs Barad-Dur= Barad-dur
Tirion vs Aman= Tirion

[Nerwen]

Nerwen's Noble Achievers
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)
-DF- **Manwë (Valimar)
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-MF- Idril (Vinyamar)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow Downs)
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)
-FW- Finwë (Tirion)
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion) (C)
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)

Trades:
-- *Eöl (Gondolin)
--Glorfindel (Gondolin)
--Alatar (Valimar)
--**Huan
--Alatar (Valimar)

++ Phantom (Barrow Downs)
++*Nerdanel (Tirion)
++*Ungoliant (Utumno)
++**Manwë (Valimar)

Predictions:
Vinyamar vs Dol Guldur - Vinyamar.
Barrow-Downs vs Gondor - Barrow-Downs.
Mithrim vs Bywater - Mithrim.
Eithel Sirion vs Numenor - Eithel Sirion.
Utumno vs Gelion - Utumno.
Valimar vs Norbury - Valimar.
Gondolin vs Barad-Dur - Gondolin.
Tirion vs Aman - Tirion.

[the phantom]

GROUP A
Had Vinyamar advancing: 14/15
Had Aman advancing: 8/15
Had both, but reversed: 6/15
Perfect prediction: Eonwe, Gwath

GROUP B
Had Barrow-Downs advancing: 13/15
Had Barad-Dur advancing: 11/15
Had both, but reversed: 6/15
Perfect prediction: Glirdan, Nog, Eomer

GROUP C
Had Mithrim advancing: 12/15
Had Norbury advancing: 5/15
Had both, but reversed: 1/15
Perfect prediction: Skip, Nog, Boro

GROUP D
Had Eithel Sirion advancing: 12/15
Had Gelion advancing: 6/15
Had both, but reversed: 1/15
Perfect prediction: McCaber, Gwath, Eomer

GROUP E
Had Utumno advancing: 12/15
Had Numenor advancing: 13/15
Had both, but reversed: 5/15
Perfect prediction: Skip, Nog, Nerwen, Gwath, Eomer

GROUP F
Had Valimar advancing: 11/15
Had Bywater advancing: 3/15
Had both, but reversed: 0/15
Perfect prediction: Eomer

GROUP G
Had Gondolin advancing: 13/15
Had Gondor advancing: 6/15
Had both, but reversed: 1/15
Perfect prediction: Sally, Nog, Nerwen

GROUP H
Had Tirion advancing: 12/15
Had Dol Guldur advancing: 6/15
Had both, but reversed: 0/15
Perfect prediction: Skip, Gwath, Morm

OVERALL LEADERS
Most popular pick to advance: Vinyamar (14/15)
Least popular pick to advance: Bywater (3/15)
Most successfully picked group: GROUP E (Utumno, Numenor)
Least successfully picked group: GROUP F (Valimar, Bywater)
Competitor with most correct group winners: Gwath (7/8)
Competitor with most correct advancing teams: Gwath, Nog, Skip (13/16)

[Nogrod]

So a few changes then.

Noggportunistics

Aulë of Tirion

Tar Meneldur of Numenor
Asfaloth of Gondolin
** Manwë of Valimar
** Curufin of Mithrim

Glorfindel of Gondolin
the phantom of BarrowDowns
* Nerdanel of Tirion

Tar Minastir of Havens
* Miriel of Tirion (C)
Nogrod of BarrowDowns


-- Aulë of Tirion
++ *Ungoliant of Utumno

-- Tar Meneldur of Numenor
++ Aegnor of eithel Sirion

-- Asfaloth of Gondolin
++ Balrog #3 of Utumno

-- ** Manwë of Valimar
++ Alatar of Valimar

-- Glorfindel of Gondolin
++ Tulkas of Valimar

-- Tar Minastir of Havens
++ Tilion of Utumno

-- Nogrod of BarrowDowns
++ **Túrin of Mithrim


So the new team will be:
Noggportunistics

GK - *Ungoliant of Utumno

DF - Aegnor of Eithel Sirion
DF - Balrog #3 of Utumno
DF - Alatar of Valimar
DF - ** Curufin of Mithrim

MF - Tulkas of Valimar
MF - the phantom of BarrowDowns
MF - * Nerdanel of Tirion

FW - Tilion of Utumno
FW - * Miriel of Tirion (C)
FW - **Túrin of Mithrim


Heh, I dropped this Nogrod-guy who has been playing fairly well so far... let's see the hat-trick coming through then on the next round. :rolleyes:


Predictions:

Vinyamar vs Dol Guldur - Dol Guldur
Barrow-Downs vs Gondor - Barrow-Downs
Mithrim vs Bywater - Mithrim
Eithel Sirion vs Numenor - Eithel Sirion
Utumno vs Gelion - Utumno
Valimar vs Norbury - Valimar
Gondolin vs Barad-Dur - Barad-Dûr
Tirion vs Aman - Tirion


Btw. tp: what is the current ruling on how many players from the same team can one have - and when is it going to change and how? And would you remind everyone also on how many changes can be made after this round (and the next)?

[the phantom]

Btw. tp: what is the current ruling on how many players from the same team can one have - and when is it going to change and how? And would you remind everyone also on how many changes can be made after this round (and the next)?
Still only three players from a single team in this round. To make trades slightly easier I will up this number to four after the quarterfinals.

As far as the number of trades allowed, after the first playoff round you will be allowed only three trades. After the quarterfinals and semifinals you will be allowed only two trades.

[satansaloser2005]

Sally Ho! (Sally)
-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)
-DF- Samwise (Ithilien)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Grishnakh (Gorgoroth)
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)
-MF- Fea (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- Eomer (....)
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs) (C)
-FW- *Bombadil (Breeland)


--Eomer (Rohan)
++Mardil (Gondor);)

--Grishnakh (Gorgoroth)
++Indis (Tirion)

--Bombadil (Breeland)
++Turin (Mithrim)

--Fea (Barrow-Downs)
++Glorfindel (Gondolin)

--Samwise (Ithilien)
++Skip Spence (Barrow-Downs)

--Firefoot (Rohan)
++Luthien (Gelion)


And then a bit of rearranging, since I forgot to do it last time anyway....

Sally Ho! (Sally)
-WB- Fatty (I nearly forgot he was on the team. For shame!)
-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Indis (Tirion)
-DF- Skip Spence (Barrow-Downs)
-DF- *Luthien (Gelion)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- Mardil (Gondor)
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs) (C)
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)



Vinyamar vs Dol Guldur
Barrow-Downs vs Gondor
Mithrim vs Bywater
Eithel Sirion vs Numenor
Utumno vs Gelion
Valimar vs Norbury
Gondolin vs Barad-Dur
Tirion vs Aman

[Boromir88]

Fea is leaving on a trip for a while and Nienna's been a bit busy, but here are their predictions and new team:

Predictions:
Vinyamar vs Dol Guldur
Barrow-Downs vs Gondor
Mithrim vs Bywater
Eithel Sirion vs Numenor
Utumno vs Gelion
Valimar vs Norbury
Gondolin vs Barad-Dur
Tirion vs Aman

----

Fea-Ni (Fea/Nienna)
-GK- Nienna (Aman)- 6
-DF- *Glaurung (Thangorodrim)- -3
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- Snowmane (Pelennor)- -1
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 3
-MF- Fimbrethil (Lorien)- 0
-MF- Thuringwethil (Utumno)- 1
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens) (C)- 3
-FW- **Feanor (Tirion)- 7
-FW- Imrahil (Pelennor)- -1
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 4
-----

--*Glaurung (Thangorodrim)
--Snowmane (Pelennor)
++Mira (Barrow Downs)
++Steve (Barrow-Downs)

--Thuringwethil (Utumno)
--Fimbrethil (Lorien)
--*Cirdan (Havens)
++**Melkor (Utumno)
++Hyarmendacil (Gondor)
++Fea

--Imrahil (Pelennor)
++**Sauron (Barad Dur)

----

Captain will be Fea. (Boro Edit: Does this really shock anyone? :rolleyes:)

Fea-Ni (Fea/Nienna)
-GK- Nienna (Aman)
-DF- Mira (Barrow-Downs)
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)
-DF- Steve (Barrow-Downs)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-MF- Fea (Barrow Downs) (C)
-MF- Hyarmendacil (Gondor)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)
-FW- **Feanor (Tirion)
-FW- **Sauron (Barad Dur)
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)

[Boromir88]

Han says "Come on baby hold together."
-GK- Rog (Vinyamar)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF- *Turgon (Aman)
-DF- *Luthien (Gelion)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim)
-FW- Beleg (Mithrim)
-FW- Tar Minastir (Havens)

---------------

--Rog (Vinyamar)
++Romendacil (Gondor)

--*Turgon (Aman)
--*Luthien (Gelion)
++**Curufin (Mithrim)
++**Tar Telperien (Numenor)

--**Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim)
++*Hador (Eithel Sirion)

--Tar Minastir (Havens)
++Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)
---------------

Han says "Come on baby hold together."
-GK- Romendacil (Gondor)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF- **Tar Telperien (Numenor)
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- *Hador (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)
-FW- Beleg (Mithrim)
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)

Edit: I'm finding that with how far behind I'm slipping, I need to start making more radical choices and get different players from the rest of you lot. *Hopes I didn't drop any Arien's this round.* :p

[satansaloser2005]

A few more changes, actually.


-WB- Fatty (I nearly forgot he was on the team. For shame!)
-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Indis (Tirion)
-DF- Skip Spence (Barrow-Downs)
-DF- *Luthien (Gelion)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- Mardil (Gondor)
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs) (C)
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)


--Indis
++Balrog #2 (Utumno)

--*Luthien
++*Celegorm (Mithrim)

--Mardil
++Fingolfin (Gondolin)


Which makes....

-WB- Fatty (who rocks, by the way, and don't let any phantoms tell you different)
-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Balrog #2 (Utumno)
-DF- Skip Spence (Barrow-Downs)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs) (C)
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)

[the phantom]

Deadline = 36 hours

[Eönwë]

--Dior
--Angrod
--Snowmane
--Elros
--Cirdan
--Tar Aldarion
--Tom Bombadil

++Ungoliant
++Balrog #4
++Aegnor
++Hador
++Nerdanel
++Arien
++Eonwe

Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)
-DF- **DF- Balrog #4 (Utumno)
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)
-DF- Galdor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- *Hador (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)
-MF- Arien (Valimar)
-FW- Eonwe (Valimar) (C)
-FW- Finwe (Tirion)
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)

Vinyamar vs Dol Guldur - Draw
Barrow-Downs vs Gondor - Barrow-Downs
Mithrim vs Bywater - Mithrim
Eithel Sirion vs Numenor - Eithel Sirion
Utumno vs Gelion - Utumno
Valimar vs Norbury - Valimar
Gondolin vs Barad-Dur - Gondolin
Tirion vs Aman - Tirion wins

[Eönwë]

Vinyamar vs Dol Guldur - Draw

Ok. Forget that. Dol Guldur ftw.

[the phantom]

Anyone who never made any first round predictions can still predict any games that have yet to be played. If you never made any trades, you may trade players who haven't played.

[the phantom]

Noggportunistics (Nogrod)
-GK- *Ungoliant of Utumno- 4
-DF- Aegnor of Eithel Sirion- -1
-DF- Balrog #3 of Utumno- 4
-DF- Alatar of Valimar- 0
-DF- ** Curufin of Mithrim- 5
-MF- Tulkas of Valimar- 0
-MF- Phantom of BarrowDowns- 7
-MF- * Nerdanel of Tirion- 0
-FW- Tilion of Utumno- 3
-FW- * Miriel of Tirion (C)- 4
-FW- **Túrin of Mithrim- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 34 (30 + 4)

Han says "Come on baby hold together." (Boro)
-GK- Romendacil (Gondor)- 2
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)- 0
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- **Tar Telperien (Numenor)- 2
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)- 5
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 3
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)- 3
-MF- *Hador (Eithel Sirion)- 0
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)- 5
-FW- Beleg (Mithrim)- 3
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)- 8
TOTAL POINTS: 48 (40 + 8)

The Lynch Mob (Gwath)
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)- 4
-DF- Skip (Barrow-downs)- 4
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 2
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)- 0
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)- 0
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)- 5
-MF- Arien (Valimar)- 4
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion) (C)- 4
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)- 0
-FW- Tilion (Utumno)- 3
TOTAL POINTS: 40 (34 + 6)

The Howls of Raven’s Run (Shasta)
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)- 4
-DF- **Shadowfax (Bywater)- 3
-DF- *Angrod (Eithel Sirion)- 0
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 2
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)- -1
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 7
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)- 0
-MF- Arien (Valimar)- 4
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion) (C)- 4
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)- 4
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 41 (35 + 6)

Magnum (Glirdan)
-GK- Hama (Wold)- 0
-DF- Nessa (Aman)- 0
-DF- Amrod (Tirion)- -1
-DF- *Glaurung (Thangorodrim)- 0
-DF- Lightfoot (Wold)- 0
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim) (C)- 0
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)- 3
-MF- Merry (Rohan)- 0
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)- 4
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)- 8
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 3
TOTAL POINTS: 17 (17 + 0)

The Muffins of Muchness (Wilwa)
-GK- *Tar Atanamir (Numenor)- 4
-DF- Nessa (Aman)- 0
-DF- Aegnor (Either Sirion)- -1
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 2
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)- 0
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)- 5
-MF- Maggot (Bywater)- 0
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)- 4
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)- 8
-FW- *Witch King (Dol Guldur)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 35 (31 + 4)

The Next-to-Last Alliance (McCaber)
-GK- *Tar Atanamir (Numenor)- 4
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 2
-DF- *Turgon (Aman)- 2
-MF- Ecthelion (Gondolin)- 5
-MF- Elendil (Barad-Dur)- 0
-MF- ** Elros (Numenor)- 5
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 7
-FW- Tuor (Vinaymar)- 0
-FW- Ancalagon (Thangorodrim)- 0
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion) (C)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 37 (37 + 0)

Sally Ho! (Sally)
-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)- 2
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)- 0
-DF- Balrog #2 (Utumno)- 3
-DF- Skip Spence (Barrow-Downs)- 4
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 2
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 3
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)- 5
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 7
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 3
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs) (C)- 3
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 40 (35 + 5)

Klong Toey Soi Dogs (Skip)
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)- 4
-DF- **Balrog #4 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 2
-DF - Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)- -1
-DF - Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 4
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 7
-MF- Fea (Barrow-Downs)- 1
-MF- *Eöl (Gondolin)- 7
-FW - *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion)- 4
-FW - Finwe (Tirion)- 7
-FW - **Túrin (Mithrim) (C)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 44 (39 + 5)

Nerwen's Noble Achievers (Nerwen)
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)- 4
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)- 4
-DF- **Manwë (Valimar)- 0
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)- -1
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 4
-MF- Idril (Vinyamar)- 5
-MF- Phantom (Barrow Downs)- 7
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)- 0
-FW- Finwë (Tirion)- 7
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion) (C)- 4
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 44 (38 + 6)

Annihilationistic Anomalies (Eomer)
-GK- Hama (Wold)- 0
-DF- Nimrodel (Lorien)- 0
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- Gothmog II (Pelennor)- 0
-DF- *Treebeard (Wold)- 0
-MF- Goldberry (Breeland)- 0
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 3
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 7
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)- 5
-FW- Isildur (Barad-Dur)- 2
-FW- Mablung (Nargothrond)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 26 (26 + 0)

Insert Clever Name Here (Morm)
-GK- Eomerwarg (Barrow-Downs)- 6
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)- 0
-DF- Asfaloth ( Gondolin)- 2
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 2
-DF- Skip Spence (Barrow-Downs)- 4
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)- 0
-MF- Phantom (Barrow Downs)- 7
-MF- Nazgul #7 (Barad-Dur)- -1
-FW- **Turin (Mirthrim) (C)- 0
-FW- **Sauron (Barad-Dur)- 4
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 34 (28 + 6)

Fea-Ni (Fea/Nienna)
-GK- Nienna (Aman)- 2
-DF- Mira (Barrow-Downs)- 4
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- Steve (Barrow-Downs)- 3
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 2
-MF- Fea (Barrow Downs) (C)- 1
-MF- Hyarmendacil (Gondor)- 0
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)- 5
-FW- **Feanor (Tirion)- 10
-FW- **Sauron (Barad Dur)- 4
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 3
TOTAL POINTS: 44 (39 + 5)

Ben Jonson (Lari)
-GK- *Melian (Doriath)- 0
-DF- Vána (Valimar)- -1
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)- 0
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)- 5
-DF- Windfola (Pelennor)- 0
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens)- 0
-MF- Elboron (Ithilien)- 0
-MF- Morwen (Mithrim)- 3
-FW- *Maeglin (Gondolin)- 3
-FW- Faramir (Ithilien)- 0
-FW- Éowyn (Pelennor) (C)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 10 (10 + 0)

Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate (Steve)
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)- 4
-DF- **DF- Balrog #4 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)- -1
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)- 2
-DF- Galdor (Eithel Sirion)- 0
-MF- *Hador (Eithel Sirion)- 0
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)- 0
-MF- Arien (Valimar)- 4
-FW- Eonwe (Valimar) (C)- 0
-FW- Finwe (Tirion)- 7
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 36 (31 + 5)

First Round Playoff Point Standings

Han says "Come on baby hold together."- 48
Fea-Ni- 44
Klong Toey Soi Dogs- 44
Nerwen's Noble Achievers- 44
The Howls of Raven’s Run- 41
Sally Ho!- 40
The Lynch Mob- 40
The Next-to-Last Alliance- 37
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate- 36
The Muffins of Muchness- 35
Noggportunistics- 34
Insert Clever Name Here- 34
Annihilationistic Anomalies- 26
Magnum- 17
Ben Jonson- 10

TOTAL POINT STANDINGS

The Lynch Mob- 194
Noggportunistics- 192
Han says "Come on baby hold together."- 186
Klong Toey Soi Dogs- 182
Nerwen's Noble Achievers- 180
The Howls of Raven’s Run- 166
The Next-to-Last Alliance- 156
Sally Ho!- 151
The Muffins of Muchness- 145
Insert Clever Name Here- 142
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate- 135
Annihilationistic Anomalies- 128
Fea-Ni- 120
Magnum- 107
Ben Jonson- 66

[the phantom]

Quarterfinals are next. The matchups-

Barrow-Downs vs Vinyamar
Mithrim vs Numenor
Norbury vs Utumno
Gondolin vs Tirion

Each match is worth two points. Predict the winner.

You are allowed THREE trades. The star limit is EIGHT.

If you entirely missed doing trades before the last round, you are allowed one extra trade if you have more than three dead players on your team (players that have been eliminated).

[wilwarin538]

The Muffins of Muchness (Wilwa)
-GK- *Tar Atanamir (Numenor)
-DF- Nessa (Aman)
-DF- Aegnor (Either Sirion)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)
-MF- Maggot (Bywater)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- *Witch King (Dol Guldur)

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

-- DF - Nessa (Aman)
-- DF - Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
-- FW - *Witch King (Dol Guldur)

++ DF - ** Curufin (Mithrim)
++ DF - Salmar (Vinyamar)
++ FW - Wilwa (Barrow-Downs)

(If I have to drop Nessa, I will replace her with myself, haha)

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

-GK- *Tar Atanamir (Numenor)
-DF- ** Curufin (Mithrim)
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)
-MF- Maggot (Bywater)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs)

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

Predictions:

Barrow-Downs vs Vinyamar -> Barrow-Downs
Mithrim vs Numenor -> Mithrim
Norbury vs Utumno -> Utumno
Gondolin vs Tirion -> Tirion

[satansaloser2005]

I'll do my trades later but for right now....


Barrow-Downs vs Vinyamar
Mithrim vs Numenor
Norbury vs Utumno
Gondolin vs Tirion



Might change my mind on the last one. We'll see.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

The Howls of Raven's Run
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)
-DF- **Shadowfax (Bywater)
-DF- *Angrod (Eithel Sirion)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)
-MF- Arien (Valimar)
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion) (C)
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)

-------------------------------

-- **Shadowfax (Bywater)
-- *Angrod (Eithel Sirion)
-- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion)

++ **Curufin (Mithrim)
++ **Balrog #4 (Utumno)
++ Tilion (Utumno)

-------------------------------

The Howls of Raven's Run
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim) (C)
-DF- **Balrog #4 (Utumno)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)
-MF- Arien (Valimar)
-FW- Tilion (Utumno)
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)



Winners are Barrow-Downs, Mithrim, Tirion, and Utumno.

[Nerwen]

Nerwen's Noble Achievers
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)
-DF- Skip (Barrow-Downs)
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-MF- Idril (Vinyamar)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)
-FW- **Fëanor (Tirion)
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)
-FW- Finwë (Tirion) (C)

--*Maedhros (Eithel Sirion)
--**Manwë (Valimar)
--- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)

++**Fëanor (Tirion)
++**Curufin (Mithrim)
++Skip (Barrow-Downs)

Predictions:

Barrow-Downs vs Vinyamar– Barrow-Downs.
Mithrim vs Numenor– Mithrim.
Norbury vs Utumno– Utumno.
Gondolin vs Tirion– Tirion.

[mormegil]

Insert Clever Name Here
-GK- Eomerwarg (Barrow-Downs)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF- Asfaloth ( Gondolin)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- Skip Spence (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow Downs)
-MF- *Eöl (Gondolin)
-FW- **Turin (Mirthrim) (C)
-FW- **Feanor (Tirion)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)

Barrow-Downs vs Vinyamar
Mithrim vs Numenor
Norbury vs Utumno
Gondolin vs Tirion

--Nazgul #7
--**Sauron
--Alatar

++FW **Feanor (Tirion)
++ DF Balrog #3 (Utumno)
++ MF *Eöl (Gondolin)

Winners: Barrow-Downs, Mirthrim, Utumno, Tirion

[Nogrod]

Winners bolded

Barrow-Downs vs Vinyamar
Mithrim vs Numenor
Norbury vs Utumno
Gondolin vs Tirion


The three trades...

-- DF - Alatar of Valimar
++ DF – Gelmir of Mithrim

-- DF - Aegnor of Eithel Sirion
++ DF – Skip Spence of BarrowDowns

-- MF - Tulkas of Valimar
++ MF - * Eöl of Gondolin


Noggportunistics

GK - *Ungoliant of Utumno

DF – Gelmir of Mithrim
DF – Skip Spence of BarrowDowns
DF - Balrog #3 of Utumno
DF - ** Curufin of Mithrim

MF - * Eöl of Gondolin
MF - the phantom of BarrowDowns
MF - * Nerdanel of Tirion

FW - Tilion of Utumno
FW - * Miriel of Tirion (C)
FW - **Túrin of Mithrim

[Gwathagor]

--Huor
--Alatar
--Arien

++Ungoliant
++Salmar
++The Phantom

GK: *Ungoliant (Utumno)
DF: Skip (Barrow-downs)
DF: Balrog #3 (Utumno)
DF: Celegorm (Mithrim)
DF: Salmar (Vinyamar)
MF: *Nerdanel (Tirion)
MF: **Melkor (Utumno)
MF: The Phantom (Barrow-downs)
FW: *Miriel (Tirion)
FW: **Turin (Mithrim)
FW: Tilion (Utumno) (C)

Barrow-downs beats Vinyamar, Mithrim beats Numenor, Utumno beats Norbury, and Tirion beats Gondolin.

[skip spence]

Transfers:

Out: *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion); Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)

In: **Feanor (Tirion); Balrog #2 (Utumno)


Klong Toey Soi Dogs (Skip)
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)
-DF- **Balrog #4 (Utumno)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF - Balrog #2 (Utumno)
-DF - Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- Fea (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- *Eöl (Gondolin)
-FW - **Feanor (Tirion)
-FW - Finwe (Tirion)
-FW - **Túrin (Mithrim) (C)

[Eönwë]

I'll just have to leave some then...

--Hador
--Arien
--Eonwe :eek:
++Phantom
++Melkor
++Feanor


Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)
-DF- **DF- Balrog #4 (Utumno)
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)
-DF- Galdor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow Downs)
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)
-FW- Feanor (Tirion)
-FW- Finwe (Tirion)
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim) (C)


As for the winners:

Barrow-Downs vs Vinyamar
Mithrim vs Numenor
Norbury vs Utumno
Gondolin vs Tirion

[Eönwë]

Ah...

--Feanor
++Miriel

Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)
-DF- **DF- Balrog #4 (Utumno)
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)
-DF- Galdor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow Downs)
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)
-FW- Finwe (Tirion)
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim) (C)

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Ach, sorry I've not been able to put much time into this. I've been in very short supply recently.

Onyway, the winners will surely be as follows:

Vinyamar to crush Barrow-Downs
Numenor to slaughter Mithrim
Utumno to bludgeon Norbury
Gondolin to dash Tirion

I'll try to make trades later. :cool:

[skip spence]

Forgot the predictions, here goes:

Barrow-Downs vs Vinyamar
Mithrim vs Numenor
Norbury vs Utumno
Gondolin vs Tirion

[the phantom]

You've had over a week already. I'd say that's plenty of time to type the names of a couple players and flip a coin for picking your game-winners. :p

Quarterfinal results can begin being posted in 36 hours.

[satansaloser2005]

Do we still have the three player per team limit?


ETA: Yes, I know, I'm being lazy and not just re-reading the thread like I should. Sowwie.

[satansaloser2005]

-WB- Fatty
-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Balrog #2 (Utumno)
-DF- Skip Spence (Barrow-Downs)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs) (C)
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)

--Alatar (Valimar)
--Fingolfin (Gondolin)

++Balrog #1 (Utumno)
++*Miriel (Tirion)


Sally Ho! (Sally)
-WB- Fatty
-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)
-DF- Balrog #2 (Utumno)
-DF- Skip Spence (Barrow-Downs)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs) (C)
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)


I think that's right. But I'm a bit sleepy, so feel free to let me know if I need to make any changes. :)

[Boromir88]

Predictions:

Vinyamar beats Barrow-Downs (2-1)
Mithrim beats Numenor (1-0)
Utumno beats Norbury (3-1)
Gondolin beats Tirion (4-2)

-------

Han says "Come on baby hold together."
-GK- Romendacil (Gondor)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF- **Tar Telperien (Numenor)
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- *Hador (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)
-FW- Beleg (Mithrim)
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)

-------

--GK Romendacil
++*GK Ungoliant

--MF Gwindor
--*MF Hador
++*MF Eol

++FW Araphor

-------

Han says "Come on baby hold together."
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF- **Tar Telperien (Numenor)
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)
-FW- Araphor (Norbury)
-FW- Beleg (Mithrim)
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)

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[Boromir88]

Fea and Ni won't be making any changes, but their predictions are...

Vinyamar over Barrow-Downs
Numenor over Mithrim
Utumno over Norbury
Tirion over Gondolin

[the phantom]

Skip will be posting the final quarterfinal soon, but so that everyone can get a jump on trades, I'll go ahead and post the points from the quarters and the specifics for the next round.

You are allowed THREE trades. The star limit is NINE. You may feature FOUR players from one team.

The semifinals are-
Mithrim vs Vinyamar
Gondolin vs Utumno

Predict the winners for bonus points (three each).

If you entirely missed doing trades before the last round, you are allowed one extra trade if you have more than three dead players on your team (players that have been eliminated).

Noggportunistics (Nogrod)
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)- 4
-DF- Skip (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 7
-DF- Gelmir (Mithrim)- 3
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)- 4
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 0
-MF- Phantom (BarrowDowns)- 5
-MF- * Nerdanel (Tirion)- 3
-FW- Tilion (Utumno)- 0
-FW- * Miriel (Tirion) (C)- 3
-FW- **Túrin (Mithrim)- 3
TOTAL POINTS: 39 (35 + 4)

Han says "Come on baby hold together." (Boro)
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)- 4
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)- 0
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 7
-DF- **Tar Telperien (Numenor)- 0
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)- 4
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 4
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 0
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)- 1
-FW- Araphor (Norbury)- 0
-FW- Beleg (Mithrim)- 4
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 33 (25 + 8)

The Lynch Mob (Gwath)
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)- 4
-DF- Skip (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 7
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 3
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)- 2
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)- 3
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)- 1
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 5
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)- 3
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)- 3
-FW- Tilion (Utumno) (C)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 31 (31 + 4, penalty -4) four players from Utumno

The Howls of Raven’s Run (Shasta)
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)- 2
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim) (C)- 4
-DF- **Balrog #4 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 3
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)- 0
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 5
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)- 3
-MF- Arien (Valimar)- 0
-FW- Tilion (Utumno)- 0
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)- 3
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)- 3
TOTAL POINTS: 35 (31 + 4)

Magnum (Glirdan)
-GK- Hama (Wold)- 0
-DF- Nessa (Aman)- 0
-DF- Amrod (Tirion)- -1
-DF- *Glaurung (Thangorodrim)- 0
-DF- Lightfoot (Wold)- 0
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim) (C)- 0
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)- 0
-MF- Merry (Rohan)- 0
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)- 3
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 3
TOTAL POINTS: 5 (5 + 0)

The Muffins of Muchness (Wilwa)
-GK- *Tar Atanamir (Numenor)- 2
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)- 2
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)- 4
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 7
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 3
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)- 3
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)- 1
-MF- Maggot (Bywater)- 0
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)- 3
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs)- 3
TOTAL POINTS: 33 (29 + 4)

The Next-to-Last Alliance (McCaber)
-GK- *Tar Atanamir (Numenor)- 2
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 7
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 3
-DF- *Turgon (Aman)- 0
-MF- Ecthelion (Gondolin)- -1
-MF- Elendil (Barad-Dur)- 0
-MF- ** Elros (Numenor)- 0
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 0
-FW- Tuor (Vinaymar)- 3
-FW- Ancalagon (Thangorodrim)- 0
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion) (C)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 14 (14 + 0)

Sally Ho! (Sally)
-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)- 6
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)- 3
-DF- Balrog #2 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- Skip Spence (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 3
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 4
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)- 1
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 5
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)- 3
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs) (C)- 3
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)- 3
TOTAL POINTS: 42 (38 + 4)

Klong Toey Soi Dogs (Skip)
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)- 2
-DF- **Balrog #4 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 3
-DF- Balrog #2 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 7
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 5
-MF- Fea (Barrow-Downs)- -1
-MF- *Eöl (Gondolin)- 0
-FW- **Feanor (Tirion)- 8
-FW- Finwe (Tirion)- -1
-FW- **Túrin (Mithrim) (C)- 3
TOTAL POINTS: 41 (37 + 4)

Nerwen's Noble Achievers (Nerwen)
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)- 4
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)- 2
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)- 4
-DF- Skip (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 7
-MF- Idril (Vinyamar)- 3
-MF- Phantom (Barrow Downs)- 5
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)- 3
-FW- Finwë (Tirion) (C)- -1
-FW- **Feanor (Tirion)- 8
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)- 3
TOTAL POINTS: 41 (37 + 4)

Annihilationistic Anomalies (Eomer)
-GK- Hama (Wold)- 0
-DF- Nimrodel (Lorien)- 0
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)- 3
-DF- Gothmog II (Pelennor)- 0
-DF- *Treebeard (Wold)- 0
-MF- Goldberry (Breeland)- 0
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 4
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 0
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)- 1
-FW- Isildur (Barad-Dur)- 0
-FW- Mablung (Nargothrond)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 15 (9 + 6)

Insert Clever Name Here (Morm)
-GK- Eomerwarg (Barrow-Downs)- 2
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 7
-DF- Asfaloth ( Gondolin)- 0
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 3
-DF- Skip Spence (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)- 3
-MF- Phantom (Barrow Downs)- 5
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 0
-FW- **Turin (Mirthrim) (C)- 3
-FW- **Feanor (Tirion)- 8
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)- 3
TOTAL POINTS: 41 (37 + 4)

Fea-Ni (Fea/Nienna)
-GK- Nienna (Aman)- 0
-DF- Mira (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)- 3
-DF- Steve (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 3
-MF- Fea (Barrow Downs) (C)- -1
-MF- Hyarmendacil (Gondor)- 0
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)- 1
-FW- **Feanor (Tirion)- 8
-FW- **Sauron (Barad Dur)- 0
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 3
TOTAL POINTS: 20 (16 + 4)

Ben Jonson (Lari)
-GK- *Melian (Doriath)- 0
-DF- Vána (Valimar)- 0
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)- 0
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)- 4
-DF- Windfola (Pelennor)- 0
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens)- 0
-MF- Elboron (Ithilien)- 0
-MF- Morwen (Mithrim)- 4
-FW- *Maeglin (Gondolin)- 7
-FW- Faramir (Ithilien)- 0
-FW- Éowyn (Pelennor) (C)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 15 (15 + 0)

Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate (Steve)
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)- 4
-DF- **DF- Balrog #4 (Utumno)- 4
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)- 0
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)- -1
-DF- Galdor (Eithel Sirion)- 0
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 5
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)- 3
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)- 1
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)- 3
-FW- Finwe (Tirion)- -1
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim) (C)- 3
TOTAL POINTS: 28 (24 + 4)

Quarterfinal Points

Sally Ho!- 42
Klong Toey Soi Dogs- 41
Nerwen's Noble Achievers- 41
Insert Clever Name Here- 41
Noggportunistics- 39
The Howls of Raven’s Run- 35
The Muffins of Muchness- 33
Han says "Come on baby hold together."- 33
The Lynch Mob- 31
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate- 28
Fea-Ni- 20
Annihilationistic Anomalies- 15
Ben Jonson- 15
The Next-to-Last Alliance- 14
Magnum- 5

Total Points

Noggportunistics- 231
The Lynch Mob- 225
Klong Toey Soi Dogs- 223
Nerwen's Noble Achievers- 221
Han says "Come on baby hold together."- 219
The Howls of Raven’s Run- 201
Sally Ho!- 193
Insert Clever Name Here- 183
The Muffins of Muchness- 178
The Next-to-Last Alliance- 170
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate- 163
Annihilationistic Anomalies- 143
Fea-Ni- 140
Magnum- 112
Ben Jonson- 81

[Gwathagor]

For all my thoroughness, to make such an elementary error as too many players from Utumno... :mad:

I am not pleased.

[the phantom]

At least your extra player is from a team that advanced, and it is now legal to have four players from a team at this stage, so it's fine now. It could've been much worse.

[mormegil]

Insert Clever Name Here
-GK- Eomerwarg (Barrow-Downs)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF- Asfaloth ( Gondolin)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- **Balrog #4 (Utunmo)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow Downs)
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)
-FW- **Turin (Mirthrim) (C)
-FW- Gothmog (Utumno)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)

Mithrim vs Vinyamar
Gondolin vs Utumno

-- MF*Nerdanel (Tirion)
--FW**Feanor (Tirion)
-- DF Skip Spence (BarrowDowns)

++MF **Melkor (Utumno)
++ FW Gothmog (Utumno)
++DF**Balrog#4 (Utumno)

Winner: Mirthrim and Utumno

Well Utumno better win after this trade if not I’m sunk in the finals.

Let it be known that I have two pointless players...Eomerward and PHANTOM! How odd.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

It bothers me a little bit that all this time I've been attributing a star to Tilion when he didn't actually have one. *sigh*

The Howls of Raven’s Run
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim) (C)
-DF- **Balrog #4 (Utumno)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion) - Useless
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs) - Useless
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion) - Useless
-MF- Arien (Valimar) - Useless
-FW- Tilion (Utumno)
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion) - Useless

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--*Miriel (Tirion)
--*Nerdanel (Tirion)
--Arien (Valimar)

++**Turin (Mithrim)
++**Melkor (Utumno)
++Thuringwethil (Utumno)

----------------------------------

The Howls of Raven’s Run
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim) (C)
-DF- **Balrog #4 (Utumno)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion) - Useless
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs) - Useless
-MF- Thuringwethil (Utumno)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)
-FW- Tilion (Utumno)
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)


Winners - Mithrim, Utumno (they better win or I'm screwed).

[Gwathagor]

--Skip
--Nerdanel
--Miriel

++Thorondor
++Eol
++Beleg

GK: *Ungoliant (Utumno)
DF: *Thorondor (Gondolin)
DF: Balrog #3 (Utumno)
DF: Celegorm (Mithrim)
DF: Salmar (Vinyamar)
MF: the Phantom (Barrow-downs)
MF: **Melkor (Utumno)
MF: *Eol (Gondolin)
FW: Beleg (Mithrim)
FW: **Turin (Mithrim)
FW: Tilion (Utumno) (C)

Mithrim and Utumno will go on to the finals.

[wilwarin538]

The Muffins of Muchness (Wilwa)
-GK- *Tar Atanamir (Numenor)
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)
-MF- Maggot (Bywater)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs)

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

-- GK * Tar Atanamir
-- FW * Miriel
-- FW Nogrod

++ GK *Ungoliant (Utumno)
++ FW Fingolfin (Gondolin)
++ FW **Turin (Mithrim)

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)
-MF- Maggot (Bywater)
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs)


Mithrim vs Vinyamar -> Mithrim
Gondolin vs Utumno -> Utumno

[the phantom]

Oh, and just in case you forgot the format- all four of these teams will be playing two more times. There are the semifinals, and then there is the championship round featuring the bronze medal game between the semi losers and the title game for the winners. In other words, none of your current active players stands any chance of being eliminated.

[Nogrod]

Noggportunistics

GK - *Ungoliant of Utumno

DF – Gelmir of Mithrim
DF – Skip Spence of BarrowDowns
DF - Balrog #3 of Utumno
DF - ** Curufin of Mithrim

MF - * Eöl of Gondolin
MF - the phantom of BarrowDowns
MF - * Nerdanel of Tirion

FW - Tilion of Utumno
FW - * Miriel of Tirion (C)
FW - **Túrin of Mithrim


So the changes...


-- MF - the phantom of BarrowDowns
++ MF - Idril of Vinyamar

-- MF - * Nerdanel of Tirion
++ MF - **Melkor of Utumno

-- FW - * Miriel of Tirion (C)
++ FW - Aredhel of Gondolin


Ending up with... (go ladies go!)

Noggportunistics

GK - *Ungoliant of Utumno

DF – Gelmir of Mithrim
DF – Skip Spence of BarrowDowns - out
DF - Balrog #3 of Utumno
DF - ** Curufin of Mithrim

MF - * Eöl of Gondolin
MF - Idril of Vinyamar
MF - ** Melkor of Utumno

FW - Tilion of Utumno
FW - Aredhel of Gondolin
FW - **Túrin of Mithrim


The predictions...

Mithrim vs Vinyamar - Mithrimn wins
Gondolin vs Utumno - Gondolin wins

If I was wise I would have predicted from the leading position the very same you all others did, but then again that's not me. I love to gamble (when it's not a question or real money or something). So let me see Gondolin finally breaking the Utumno defences! (Led by Aredhel and Eöl, of course...)

[Nerwen]

Nerwen's Noble Achievers
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)
-DF- Skip (Barrow-Downs)
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-MF- Idril (Vinyamar)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)
-FW- Gothmog (Utumno)
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim) (C)
-FW- Maeglin (Gondolin)


--**Fëanor (Tirion)
--Finwë (Tirion)
--Phantom (Barrow-Downs)

++Glorfindel (Gondolin)
++*Maeglin (Gondolin)
++Gothmog (Utumno)

Predictions:

Mithrim vs Vinyamar– Mithrim.
Gondolin vs Utumno– Gondolin.

[skip spence]

Out: Finwe (Tirion); **Feanor (Tirion); Phantom (Barrow-Downs)

In: **Melkor (Utumno); *Maeglin (Gondolin); Beleg (Mithrim)

Klong Toey Soi Dogs (Skip)
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)
-DF- **Balrog #4 (Utumno)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF - Balrog #2 (Utumno)
-DF - Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)
-MF- Fea (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- *Eöl (Gondolin)
-FW - Beleg (Mithrim)
-FW - *Maeglin (Gondolin)
-FW - **Túrin (Mithrim) (C)

Utumno to beat Gondolin
Mithrim to beat Vinyamar

[satansaloser2005]

I'm assuming I've got time to make my trades after work tomorrow? I've been brain dead all day and really need to get to bed, but I'll ponder over tomorrow.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Utumno will beat Gondolin

Vinyamar to beat Mithrim.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

GK - Hama (Wold)

DF - Nimrodel (Lorien)
DF - Balrog #1 (Utumno)
DF - Gothmog II (Pelennor)
DF - Treebeard (Wold)*

MF - Goldberry (Breeland)
MF - Glorfindel (Gondolin)
MF - Eol (Gondolin)*
MF - Melkor (Utumno)** C

FW - Isildur (Barad-Dur)
FW- Mablung (Nargothrond)


That was my team; I stuck by them for a long time. But now - some have to go. I can make 4 changes so get rid of: Treebeard*, Goldberry, Isildur and Mablung.

Bring in: Turin**, Curufin**, Maeglin* and Voronwe.


So:

GK - Hama (Wold)

DF - Nimrodel (Lorien)
DF - Balrog #1 (Utumno)
DF - Gothmog II (Pelennor)
DF - Curufin (Mithrim)**

MF - Voronwe (Vinyamar)
MF - Glorfindel (Gondolin)
MF - Eol (Gondolin)*
MF - Melkor (Utumno)** C

FW - Turin (Mithrim)**
FW- Maeglin (Gondolin)*

[Boromir88]

Predictions:

Mithrim beats Vinyamar (1-0)
Gondolin beats Utumno (2-1)


Han says "Come on baby hold together."
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF- **Tar Telperien (Numenor)
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)
-FW- Araphor (Norbury)
-FW- Beleg (Mithrim)
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)

--------

--**DF Tar Telperien (Numenor)
++**DF Ulmo (Vinyamar)

--FW Araphor (Norbury)
--FW Nogrod (Barrow Downs)
++FW Gothmog (Utumno)
++*FW Maeglin (Gondolin)

--------


Han says "Come on baby hold together."
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF- **Ulmo (Vinyamar)
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)
-FW- Gothmog (Utumno)
-FW- Beleg (Mithrim)
-FW- *Maeglin (Gondolin)

[satansaloser2005]

Sally Ho! (Sally)
-WB- Fatty
-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)
-DF- Balrog #2 (Utumno)
-DF- Skip Spence (Barrow-Downs)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs) (C)
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)


--Skip (BD)
++**Ulmo (Vinyamar)

--Phantom (BD)
++Thuringwethil (Utumno)

--Miriel (Tirion)
++Fingolfin (Gondolin)

And Vanilwamuffin (BD) just doesn’t get to play. (But she’s still my captain! Nyah!)


Sally Ho! (Sally)
-WB- Fatty
-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)
-DF- Balrog #2 (Utumno)
-DF- **Ulmo (Vinyamar)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)
-MF- Thuringwethil (Utumno)
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs) (Useless Captain)
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)



Winners:
Mithrim over Vinyamar.
Utumno to pants Gondolin.

[the phantom]

The first of the semis will be posted as early as tomorrow- Tuesday night at the latest. If you wish to make changes, hurry it up.

[Eönwë]

--Miriel
--Finwe
--Nerdanel

++Turin
++Tilion
++Eol




So, that leaves me with:

Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)
-DF- **DF- Balrog #4 (Utumno)
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)
-DF- Galdor (Eithel Sirion)
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)
-FW- Tilion (Utumno)
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim) (C)

[Eönwë]

Oh, and Mithrim and Utumno will win.

[the phantom]

Noggportunistics (Nogrod)
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)- 4
-DF- Skip (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- -1
-DF- Gelmir (Mithrim)- 0
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)- 0
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 2
-MF- Idril (Vinyamar)- 3
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)- 8
-FW- Tilion (Utumno)- 0
-FW- Aredhel (Gondolin) (C)- 0
-FW- **Túrin (Mithrim)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 23 (20 + 3)

Han says "Come on baby hold together." (Boro)
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)- 4
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)- 0
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- -1
-DF- **Ulmo (Vinyamar)- 2
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)- 0
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 0
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 2
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)- 8
-FW- Gothmog (Utumno)- 3
-FW- Beleg (Mithrim)- -1
-FW- *Maeglin (Gondolin)- 8
TOTAL POINTS: 36 (33 + 3)

The Lynch Mob (Gwath)
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)- 4
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)- 0
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- -1
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 0
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)- 2
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 2
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)- 8
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-FW- Beleg (Mithrim)- -1
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)- 4
-FW- Tilion (Utumno) (C)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 18 (18 + 0)

The Howls of Raven’s Run (Shasta)
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)- 2
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim) (C)- 0
-DF- **Balrog #4 (Utumno)- 0
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 0
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)- 0
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)- 8
-MF- Thuringwethil (Utumno)- 0
-FW- *Tilion (Utumno)- 0
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)- 2
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 16 (16 + 0)

Magnum (Glirdan)
-GK- Hama (Wold)- 0
-DF- Nessa (Aman)- 0
-DF- Amrod (Tirion)- 0
-DF- *Glaurung (Thangorodrim)- 0
-DF- Lightfoot (Wold)- 0
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim) (C)- 0
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)- 0
-MF- Merry (Rohan)- 0
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)- 0
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 4 (4 + 0)

The Muffins of Muchness (Wilwa)
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)- 4
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)- 2
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)- 0
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- -1
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 0
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)- 0
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)- 8
-MF- Maggot (Bywater)- 0
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)- 4
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 4
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 29 (29 + 0)

The Next-to-Last Alliance (McCaber)
-GK- *Tar Atanamir (Numenor)- 0
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- -1
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 0
-DF- *Turgon (Aman)- 0
-MF- Ecthelion (Gondolin)- 0
-MF- Elendil (Barad-Dur)- 0
-MF- ** Elros (Numenor)- 0
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 2
-FW- Tuor (Vinaymar)- 3
-FW- Ancalagon (Thangorodrim)- 0
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion) (C)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 4 (4 + 0)

Sally Ho! (Sally)
-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)- 2
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)- 0
-DF- Balrog #2 (Utumno)- -1
-DF- **Ulmo (Vinyamar)- 2
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 0
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 0
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)- 8
-MF- Thuringwethil (Utumno)- 0
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 4
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs) (C)- 0
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 19 (19 + 0)

Klong Toey Soi Dogs (Skip)
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)- 2
-DF- **Balrog #4 (Utumno)- 0
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 0
-DF- Balrog #2 (Utumno)- -1
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- -1
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)- 8
-MF- Fea (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-MF- *Eöl (Gondolin)- 2
-FW- Beleg (Mithrim)- -1
-FW- *Maeglin (Gondolin)- 8
-FW- **Túrin (Mithrim) (C)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 25 (25 + 0)

Nerwen's Noble Achievers (Nerwen)
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)- 4
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)- 2
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)- 0
-DF- Skip (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- -1
-MF- Idril (Vinyamar)- 3
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 0
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)- 0
-FW- Gothmog (Utumno)- 3
-FW- *Maeglin (Gondolin)- 8
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim) (C)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 30 (27 + 3)

Annihilationistic Anomalies (Eomer)
-GK- Hama (Wold)- 0
-DF- Nimrodel (Lorien)- 0
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)- 0
-DF- Gothmog II (Pelennor)- 0
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)- 0
-MF- Voronwe (Vinyamar)- 0
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 0
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 2
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)- 8
-FW- *Maeglin (Gondolin)- 8
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 33 (30 + 3)

Insert Clever Name Here (Morm)
-GK- Eomerwarg (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- -1
-DF- Asfaloth ( Gondolin)- -1
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 0
-DF- **Balrog #4 (Utumno)- 0
-MF- *Melkor (Utumno)- 8
-MF- Phantom (Barrow Downs)- 0
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 2
-FW- **Turin (Mirthrim) (C)- 4
-FW- Gothmog (Utumno)- 3
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 19 (19 + 0)

Fea-Ni (Fea/Nienna)
-GK- Nienna (Aman)- 0
-DF- Mira (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)- 0
-DF- Steve (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 0
-MF- Fea (Barrow Downs) (C)- 0
-MF- Hyarmendacil (Gondor)- 0
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)- 8
-FW- **Feanor (Tirion)- 0
-FW- **Sauron (Barad Dur)- 0
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 12 (12 + 0)

Ben Jonson (Lari)
-GK- *Melian (Doriath)- 0
-DF- Vána (Valimar)- 0
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)- 0
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)- 0
-DF- Windfola (Pelennor)- 0
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens)- 0
-MF- Elboron (Ithilien)- 0
-MF- Morwen (Mithrim)- -1
-FW- *Maeglin (Gondolin)- 8
-FW- Faramir (Ithilien)- 0
-FW- Éowyn (Pelennor) (C)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 7 (7 + 0)

Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate (Steve)
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)- 4
-DF- **DF- Balrog #4 (Utumno)- 0
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)- 0
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)- 0
-DF- Galdor (Eithel Sirion)- 0
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 2
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)- 8
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)- 4
-FW- Tilion (Utumno)- 0
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim) (C)- 2
TOTAL POINTS: 22 (22 + 0)

**************************************
**************************************

SEMIFINAL POINTS

Han says "Come on baby hold together."- 36
Annihilationistic Anomalies- 33
Nerwen's Noble Achievers- 30
The Muffins of Muchness- 29
Klong Toey Soi Dogs- 25
Noggportunistics- 23
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate- 22
Insert Clever Name Here- 19
Sally Ho!- 19
The Lynch Mob- 18
The Howls of Raven’s Run- 16
Fea-Ni- 12
Ben Jonson- 7
Magnum- 4
The Next-to-Last Alliance- 4

TOTAL POINT STANDINGS

Han says "Come on baby hold together."- 255
Noggportunistics- 254
Nerwen's Noble Achievers- 251
Klong Toey Soi Dogs- 248
The Lynch Mob- 243
The Howls of Raven’s Run- 217
Sally Ho!- 212
The Muffins of Muchness- 207
Insert Clever Name Here- 202
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate- 185
Annihilationistic Anomalies- 176
The Next-to-Last Alliance- 174
Fea-Ni- 152
Magnum- 116
Ben Jonson- 88

**************************************
**************************************

And now we are in the final round! Pick the winners! (each match worth 4 points)

For third place-
Mithrim versus Utumno

For the title-
Gondolin versus Vinyamar

You are allowed THREE trades. The star limit is TEN. You may feature FOUR players from one team.

If you entirely missed doing trades before the last round, you are allowed one extra trade if you have more than three dead players on your team (players that have been eliminated).

[Eönwë]

--Aegnor
--Galdor
--Phantom

++Rochallor
++Duilin
++Salmar

Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)
-DF- **DF- Balrog #4 (Utumno)
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)
-DF- Rochallor (Gondolin)
-MF- Duilin (Vinyamar)
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)
-FW- Tilion (Utumno)
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)

Gondolin to win
Utumno for third place

[satansaloser2005]

I ruddy hate my life. o_O

[the phantom]

Hey- you're the one who chose to have a captain that was no longer in the tournament instead of someone (like Melkor) who could've gained you some points. ;)

[Gwathagor]

Vinyamar beats Gondolin and Utumno beats Mithrim.

--Phantom
--Beleg

++Idril
++Maeglin

GK: *Ungoliant (Utumno)
DF: *Thorondor (Gondolin)
DF: Balrog #3 (Utumno)
DF: Celegorm (Mithrim)
DF: Salmar (Vinyamar)
MF: Idril (Vinyamar)
MF: **Melkor (Utumno) (C)
MF: *Eol (Gondolin)
FW: *Maeglin (Gondolin)
FW: **Turin (Mithrim)
FW: Tilion (Utumno)

[mormegil]

Insert Clever Name Here
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF- Asfaloth ( Gondolin)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- **Balrog #4 (Utumno)
-MF- *Melkor (Utumno)
-MF- Ecthelion (Gondolin)
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)
-FW- **Turin (Mirthrim) (C)
-FW- *Maeglin (Gondolin)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)

++*Ungoliant (Utumno)
-- Eomerwarg (Barrow Downs)

++ *Maeglin (Gondolin)
-- Gothmog (Utumno)

++ Ecthelion (Gondolin)
-- Tummy (Barrow Downs)

Gondolin and Mithrim win.

[Nerwen]

Nerwen's Noble Achievers (Nerwen)
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)
-DF- **Ulmo (Vinyamar)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-MF- Idril (Vinyamar)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
–MF- *Eol (Gondolin)
-FW- Gothmog (Utumno)
-FW- *Maeglin (Gondolin)(C)
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)

--*Nerdanel (Tirion)
--Skip (Barrow-Downs)

++*Eol (Gondolin)
++**Ulmo (Vinyamar)

Gondolin to beat Vinyamar.
Utumno to beat Mithrim.

[Nerwen]

Morm, Melkor's actually got two stars, I believe– looks like you've gone over the limit.

[mormegil]

Morm, Melkor's actually got two stars, I believe– looks like you've gone over the limit.

Thank you for pointing that out. I had it listed as such when I submitted the roster but I copy and paste from Phantom's earlier post for my newest roster and didn't realize that one of the stars had been deleted somehow. Now I need to figure out what I'm going to do.

[mormegil]

Maeglin is out and Tuor is in.

Insert Clever Name Here
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF- Asfaloth ( Gondolin)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- **Balrog #4 (Utumno)
-MF- *Melkor (Utumno)
-MF- Ecthelion (Gondolin)
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)
-FW- **Turin (Mirthrim) (C)
-FW- Tuor (Vinyamar)
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)

[Boromir88]

Predictions:
Mithrim beats Utumno (2-1)
Gondolin vs. Vinyamar (1-1), Gondolin wins in penalty kicks. :D

Han says "Come on baby hold together."
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)
-DF- Alatar (Valimar)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-DF- **Ulmo (Vinyamar)
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)
-FW- Gothmog (Utumno)
-FW- Beleg (Mithrim)
-FW- *Maeglin (Gondolin)

------------

--*GK Ungoliant (Utumno)
++GK Huor (Gondolin)

--DF Alatar (Valimar)
++DF Galdor (Vinyamar)

--FW Gothmog (Utumno)
++**FW Turin (Mithrim)

------

Han says "Come on baby hold together."
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)
-DF- Galdor (Vinyamar)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno
-DF- **Ulmo (Vinyamar)
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)
-FW- Beleg (Mithrim)
-FW- *Maeglin (Gondolin)

[satansaloser2005]

Oh crack. I don't have time to look over stuff and pick different people. Meh, I shan't win anyway, and I need my Snuggle Muffin even if she can't play. ;)


I'll do predictions though. Here goes.


Utumno over Mithrim
Gondolin over Vinyamar

[Nogrod]

Blah. I don't have any of my stats with me here in Frisco - well, here in the US anyway, and I had totally forgotten this for a few days.

But be as it is here's my team and predictions.

Noggportunistics

GK - *Ungoliant of Utumno

DF – Gelmir of Mithrim
DF – Skip Spence of BarrowDowns - out
DF - Balrog #3 of Utumno
DF - ** Curufin of Mithrim

MF - * Eöl of Gondolin
MF - Idril of Vinyamar
MF - ** Melkor of Utumno

FW - Tilion of Utumno
FW - Aredhel of Gondolin
FW - **Túrin of Mithrim

-- GK *Ungoliant of Utumno
++ GK Rôg of Vinyamar

-- DF Skip of BarrowDowns
++ DF **Ulmo of Vinyamar

-- FW Tilion of Utumno
++ FW *Maeglin of Gondolin

Leading into...

Noggportunistics

GK – Rôg of Vinyamar

DF – Gelmir of Mithrim
DF – **Ulmo of Vinyamar
DF - Balrog #3 of Utumno
DF - ** Curufin of Mithrim

MF - * Eöl of Gondolin
MF - Idril of Vinyamar
MF - ** Melkor of Utumno

FW - *Maeglin of Gondolin
FW - Aredhel of Gondolin
FW - **Túrin of Mithrim (C)



For third place-
Mithrim versus Utumno

Mithrim wins
- Utumno are disappointed and they couldn't care less about the bronze... :(

For the title-
Gondolin versus Vinyamar

Gondolin wins
- These nobodies (sic!) can't beat the masters of the game when the stakes are high... :p

[skip spence]

Ok, seeing how the final games are yet to be posted here I'll make a final transfer:

Out: Fea (BD's)

In: Idril (Vinyamar)

The Klong Toey Soi Dogs
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)
-DF- **Balrog #4 (Utumno)
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)
-DF- Balrog #2 (Utumno)
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)
-MF- Idril (Vinyamar)
-MF- *Eöl (Gondolin)
-FW- Beleg (Mithrim)
-FW- *Maeglin (Gondolin) (C)
-FW- **Túrin (Mithrim)

Gondolin to defeat Vinyamar in the final

Mithrim to defeat Utummno for the consolation price

[the phantom]

The finals will begin in 36-48 hours, so if you're going to take action, do so quickly.

[the phantom]

Noggportunistics (Nogrod)
-GK- Rog (Vinyamar)- 4
-DF- **Ulmo (Vinyamar)- 2
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 0
-DF- Gelmir (Mithrim)- 1
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)- 5
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 1
-MF- Idril (Vinyamar)- 0
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)- 5
-FW- *Maeglin (Gondolin)- 4
-FW- Aredhel (Gondolin)- 3
-FW- **Túrin (Mithrim) (C)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 41 (33 + 8)

Han says "Come on baby hold together." (Boro)
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)- 4
-DF- Galdor (Vinyamar)- 2
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 0
-DF- **Ulmo (Vinyamar)- 2
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)- 5
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 0
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 1
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)- 5
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)- 4
-FW- Beleg (Mithrim)- 3
-FW- *Maeglin (Gondolin)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 43 (35 + 8)

The Lynch Mob (Gwath)
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)- 2
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)- 4
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 0
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 1
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)- 2
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 1
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)- 5
-MF- Idril (Vinyamar)- 0
-FW- *Maeglin (Gondolin)- 4
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)- 4
-FW- Tilion (Utumno)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 28 (28 + 0)

The Howls of Raven’s Run (Shasta)
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)- 4
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim) (C)- 5
-DF- **Balrog #4 (Utumno)- 0
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 1
-DF- Aegnor (Eithel Sirion)- 0
-MF- Phantom (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)- 5
-MF- Thuringwethil (Utumno)- 2
-FW- Tilion (Utumno)- 0
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)- 4
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 30 (30 + 0)

Magnum (Glirdan)
-GK- Hama (Wold)- 0
-DF- Nessa (Aman)- 0
-DF- Amrod (Tirion)- 0
-DF- *Glaurung (Thangorodrim)- 0
-DF- Lightfoot (Wold)- 0
-MF- **Durin's Bane (Thangorodrim) (C)- 0
-MF- Gwindor (Eithel Sirion)- 0
-MF- Merry (Rohan)- 0
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)- 0
-FW- Nogrod (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 0 (0 + 0)

The Muffins of Muchness (Wilwa)
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)- 2
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)- 2
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)- 5
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 0
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 1
-MF- *Nerdanel (Tirion)- 0
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)- 5
-MF- Maggot (Bywater)- 0
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)- 4
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 0
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 24 (24 + 0)

The Next-to-Last Alliance (McCaber)
-GK- *Tar Atanamir (Numenor)- 0
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 0
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 1
-DF- *Turgon (Aman)- 0
-MF- Ecthelion (Gondolin)- 1
-MF- Elendil (Barad-Dur)- 0
-MF- ** Elros (Numenor)- 0
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 1
-FW- Tuor (Vinaymar)- 0
-FW- Ancalagon (Thangorodrim)- 0
-FW- *Maedhros (Eithel Sirion) (C)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 3 (3 + 0)

Sally Ho! (Sally)
-GK- **Huan (Mithrim)- 4
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)- -1
-DF- Balrog #2 (Utumno)- 0
-DF- **Ulmo (Vinyamar)- 2
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 1
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 0
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)- 5
-MF- Thuringwethil (Utumno)- 2
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 0
-FW- Wilwa (Barrow-Downs) (C)- 0
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 21 (17+ 4)

Klong Toey Soi Dogs (Skip)
-GK- Huor (Gondolin)- 4
-DF- **Balrog #4 (Utumno)- 0
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 1
-DF- Balrog #2 (Utumno)- 0
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 0
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)- 5
-MF- Idril (Vinyamar)- 0
-MF- *Eöl (Gondolin)- 1
-FW- Beleg (Mithrim)- 3
-FW- *Maeglin (Gondolin) (C)- 4
-FW- **Túrin (Mithrim)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 34 (26 + 8)

Nerwen's Noble Achievers (Nerwen)
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)- 2
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)- 2
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)- 5
-DF- **Ulmo (Vinyamar)- 2
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 0
-MF- Idril (Vinyamar)- 0
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 0
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 1
-FW- Gothmog (Utumno)- 0
-FW- *Maeglin (Gondolin) (C)- 4
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 28 (24 + 4)

Annihilationistic Anomalies (Eomer)
-GK- Hama (Wold)- 0
-DF- Nimrodel (Lorien)- 0
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)- -1
-DF- Gothmog II (Pelennor)- 0
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)- 5
-MF- Voronwe (Vinyamar)- 0
-MF- Glorfindel (Gondolin)- 0
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 1
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)- 5
-FW- *Maeglin (Gondolin)- 4
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 23 (23 + 0)

Insert Clever Name Here (Morm)
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)- 2
-DF- Balrog #3 (Utumno)- 0
-DF- Asfaloth ( Gondolin)- 4
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 1
-DF- **Balrog #4 (Utumno)- 0
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)- 5
-MF- Ecthelion (Gondolin)- 1
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 1
-FW- **Turin (Mirthrim) (C)- 4
-FW- Tuor (Vinyamar)- 0
-FW- *Miriel (Tirion)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 30 (22 + 8)

Fea-Ni (Fea/Nienna)
-GK- Nienna (Aman)- 0
-DF- Mira (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-DF- Balrog #1 (Utumno)- -1
-DF- Steve (Barrow-Downs)- 0
-DF- *Celegorm (Mithrim)- 1
-MF- Fea (Barrow Downs) (C)- 0
-MF- Hyarmendacil (Gondor)- 0
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno)- 5
-FW- **Feanor (Tirion)- 0
-FW- **Sauron (Barad Dur)- 0
-FW- Fingolfin (Gondolin)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 5 (5 + 0)

Ben Jonson (Lari)
-GK- *Melian (Doriath)- 0
-DF- Vána (Valimar)- 0
-DF- Firefoot (Rohan)- 0
-DF- **Curufin (Mithrim)- 5
-DF- Windfola (Pelennor)- 0
-MF- *Cirdan (Havens)- 0
-MF- Elboron (Ithilien)- 0
-MF- Morwen (Mithrim)- 0
-FW- *Maeglin (Gondolin)- 4
-FW- Faramir (Ithilien)- 0
-FW- Éowyn (Pelennor) (C)- 0
TOTAL POINTS: 9 (9 + 0)

Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate (Steve)
-GK- *Ungoliant (Utumno)- 2
-DF- **Balrog #4 (Utumno)- 0
-DF- Rochallor (Gondolin)- 4
-DF- *Thorondor (Gondolin)- 4
-DF- Salmar (Vinyamar)- 2
-MF- Duilin (Vinyamar)- 0
-MF- *Eol (Gondolin)- 1
-MF- **Melkor (Utumno) (C)- 5
-FW- **Turin (Mithrim)- 4
-FW- Tilion (Utumno)- 0
-FW- Hurin (Mithrim)- 4
TOTAL POINTS: 35 (31 + 4)

Final Round Points

Han says "Come on baby hold together."- 43
Noggportunistics- 41
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate- 35
Klong Toey Soi Dogs- 34
Insert Clever Name Here- 30
The Howls of Raven’s Run- 30
Nerwen's Noble Achievers- 28
The Lynch Mob- 28
The Muffins of Muchness- 24
Annihilationistic Anomalies- 23
Sally Ho!- 21
Ben Jonson- 9
Fea-Ni- 5
The Next-to-Last Alliance- 3
Magnum- 0

Total Point Standings

Han says "Come on baby hold together."- 298
Noggportunistics- 295
Klong Toey Soi Dogs- 282
Nerwen's Noble Achievers- 279
The Lynch Mob- 271
The Howls of Raven’s Run- 247
Sally Ho!- 233
The Muffins of Muchness- 231
Insert Clever Name Here- 232
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate- 220
Annihilationistic Anomalies- 199
The Next-to-Last Alliance- 177
Fea-Ni- 157
Magnum- 116
Ben Jonson- 97

And now all there is left to do is award points for pre-tournament predictions.

TEN POINT AWARDS:
Congratulations to Fea/Nienna, Eomer, Morm, Nerwen, Skip, McCaber, and Sally for correctly predicting the most goals for a player (Turin, Feanor, & Maeglin scored 6).

Congrats to Gwath and Shasta for predicting Nerdanel of Tirion to have the most assists.

Congrats to Boromir for predicting Gondolin to win the championship.

FIVE POINT AWARDS:
Congrats to no one for predicting Rog of Vinyamar or Ungoliant of Utumno to be the goalkeepers to score the most phantasy points.

Congrats to Morm and Gwath for predicting Curufin as the leading defensive point earner.

Congrats to Eomer, Morm, Gwath, and Skip for picking Melkor as the leading midfielder for phantasy points.

Congrats to Eomer, Gwath, Wilwa, Nerwen, and McCaber for choosing Feanor to have the most phantasy points for a forward.

So if we add up all of the additional points, here’s what we end with......

FINAL POINT STANDINGS

Han says "Come on baby hold together."- 308
Klong Toey Soi Dogs- 297
The Lynch Mob- 296
Noggportunistics- 295
Nerwen's Noble Achievers- 294
The Howls of Raven’s Run- 257
Insert Clever Name Here- 252
Sally Ho!- 243
The Muffins of Muchness- 236
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate- 220
Annihilationistic Anomalies- 219
The Next-to-Last Alliance- 192
Fea-Ni- 167
Magnum- 116
Ben Jonson- 97

A hearty slap on the back to Boromir for bringing home the gold in what was a very very competitive race! The two former champs, Skip and Gwath, finished in second and third, and Nog and Nerwen were right on their heels. As a matter of fact each of those four was only one point behind the other!

And of course there were many others in the competition. Some got off to slow starts and finished stronger, while others started fine but tailed off at the end. That might win some leagues, but with the teams that were in this competition having more than one off round was a killer. Better luck next time to everyone. Perhaps next season will be your breakthrough.

[Gwathagor]

Well done, everybody.

[mormegil]

Well done all, I dub myself King of Mediocrity! I never did too poorly but never did great :rolleyes:

[the phantom]

Let's break down the points and see who won the most from predictions as well as in each round.

PRE-TOURNEY GROUP PREDICTIONS- Gwath (27)

PRE-TOURNEY SCORING PREDICTIONS- Gwath (25)

1ST GROUP PLAY- Nogrod (58)

2ND GROUP PLAY- Nerwen (43)

3RD GROUP PLAY- Gwath (47)

1ST PLAYOFFS- Boro (48)

QUARTERFINALS- Sally (42)

SEMIFINALS- Boro (36)

FINALS- Boro (43)

So, very well done Gwath on the predictions- 52 points altogether!

A pat on the back to Nog for the largest single point gain of the tournament- his whopping 58 points in the first round!

As you can see, our champ (Boro) was the strongest finisher, winning three of the final four rounds.

[Nogrod]

Fourth? :(

Well that suits me right. I was too much out in the last rounds - and anyway my initial predictions were soo wrong that I earned to drop in the end - like my favourites to the World Cup Germany dropped out... :mad:

But it was fun anyway. I hope I can be more consistent the next year.

Let's end with a High-note though... so please answer the question below (into the thread: my PM's will be overcrowded as I need to arrange stuff with meeting people while visiting the US...)

Arda Cup is...

a) as important as the soccer World Cup.
b) a game for the geeks only.
c) fun but depressing.
d) a chance to show my allegiances.
e) ? (your own description)

The winner of this questionnaire will receive a free gift from the AKM!

[Nerwen]

Arda Cup is...

a) as important as the soccer World Cup.
Definitely.:cool:

[mormegil]

Arda Cup is...

a) as important as the soccer World Cup.
b) a game for the geeks only.
c) fun but depressing.
d) a chance to show my allegiances.
e) ALL OF THE ABOVE!


My answer is E

[Eönwë]

My answer is E

Couldn't agree more.

[Boromir88]

a) as important as the soccer World Cup.
b) a game for the geeks only.
c) fun but depressing.
d) a chance to show my allegiances.
e) ? (your own description)

e) I'm on a hot streak and should put some money down on the Netherlands. Since I had Gondolin to win the Arda Cup from the beginning, and Netherlands to win the World Cup from the beginning. :D

Well done on another great tourney phantom, and to all the writers and players.

[skip spence]

Uhm... congrats, Boro. You got lucky! :p

[Nerwen]

This is late, 'cause I've been preoccupied– but congratulations, Boro!

And thanks for the game, phantom! (Sorry, still can't rep you yet.)