Hurt and Heal: Ladies' Round

[Galadriel55]

During the previous Hurt and Heal round (which we hopefully all enjoyed) Legate said that it is strange that the ratio of female to male characters is almost 50:50. Well, this game, it's going to be 100% women! Nominate your favourite female characters!

I think there are enough women to make a game with 20 characters without making it boring. I might change it to 15, depending on the progress.


THE RULES:

Each player has 3 nominations and 3 secondings.

You are not allowed to second your own nominee.

Characters have to be seconded twice before they get in. In other words, they need 3 votes (one of which is the nomination).

The actual game:

From 20 to 7 - each player has 3 votes: 2 hurts and 1 heal. Double hurts are allowed.

From 6 to 4 - each player has 3 votes: 2 hurts and 1 heal. Double hurts ar not allowed: a player has to hurt 2 different characters and heal one, or he may use only 1 hurt and 1 heal.

When but 3 characters are left each player has either a hurt or a heal.

Wait for at least three posters to vote prior to you voting again.


Please include a list of the nominees, as well as how many nominations people have left, when you nominate or second someone. Like this:


In:

Nominated:

Nominations / secondings:
G55: 3/3



Have fun!

[Pitchwife]

From opposite ends of the spectrum: Lobelia Sackville-Baggins and Goldberry.

In: -

Nominated: Lobelia, Goldberry

Nominations / secondings:
G55: 3/3
Pitch: 1/3

[Galadriel55]

I nominate Thuringwethil and second Goldberry

In: -

Nominated:
Goldberry (+1)
Lobelia
Thuringwethil

Nominations / secondings:
G55: 2/2
Pitch: 1/3

[satansaloser2005]

Excellent idea, Galadriel! :)

Second Thuringwethil and Lobelia. I'll have to consider my nominations before I decide.

In:
None yet

Nominated:
Goldberry (+1)
Lobelia (+1)
Thuringwethil +1)

Nominations / Secondings:
G55: 2/2
Pitch: 1/3
Sally: 0/2

[satansaloser2005]

I lied. Nominate Rosie.

In:
None yet

Nominated:
Goldberry (+1)
Lobelia (+1)
Thuringwethil +1)
Rosie

Nominations / Secondings:
G55: 2/2
Pitch: 1/3
Sally: 1/2

[Galadriel55]

Nominate Earwen.

In:

none yet


Nominated:

Goldberry (+1)
Lobelia (+1)
Thuringwethil(+1)
Earwen

Nominations / secondings:

G55: 1/2
Pitch: 1/3
Sally: 2/1


Sally, I think you did this backwards. I'm counting how many nominations people have left. :cool: I fixed it.

[satansaloser2005]

Huh. I thought that looked a bit off. My apologies. It's been a long Day....erm, day. >.<

[Loslote]

In:

Thuringwethil

Nominated:

Goldberry (+1)
Lobelia (+1)
Earwen
Andreth
Elwing

Nominations / secondings:

G55: 1/2
Pitch: 1/3
Sally: 2/1
Lottie: 1/2

Nominate Andreth and Elwing. Third (and, I think, finalize) Thuringwethil.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I second Lobelia and Goldberry and nominate Galadriel, for the time being (as somebody has to anyway :) ) I will now start thinking of where there is some interesting "background" woman which is unlikely to get there otherwise before I cast my other nominations, even though I would have some ideas for nominations now (like Ioreth - feel free to nominate her, if you wish).

In:

Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry

Nominated:

Earwen
Andreth
Elwing
Galadriel

Nominations / secondings:

G55: 1/2
Pitch: 1/3
Sally: 2/1
Lottie: 1/2
Legate: 2/1

[satansaloser2005]

Fixed (I think) the count. Rosie had been left out somehow.

In:

Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry

Nominated:
Rosie
Earwen
Andreth
Elwing
Galadriel

Nominations / secondings:

G55: 1/2
Pitch: 1/3
Sally: 2/1
Lottie: 1/2
Legate: 2/1

[Tuor in Gondolin]

In:

Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry

Nominated:
Rosie
Earwen
Andreth
Elwing
Galadriel

Nominations / secondings:

G55: 1/2
Pitch: 1/3
Sally: 2/1
Lottie: 1/2
Legate: 2/1

Nominate: Ungoliant, Shelob, Lobelia S-B Second: Rosie, Elwing

P.S. Has there been a Hobbit Hurt/Heal? If not, hopefully before the movie--otherwise
a skateboarding elf down the Lonely Mountain during the Battle of Five Armies
might be included. :(

[satansaloser2005]

Oooo, Shelob! Excellent!

Updating the count to include Tuor's nominations/secondings.


In:

Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry

Nominated:
Rosie (+1)
Earwen
Andreth
Elwing (+1)
Galadriel
Ungoliant
Shelob

Nominations / secondings:

G55: 1/2
Pitch: 1/3
Sally: 2/1
Lottie: 1/2
Legate: 2/1
Tuor: 1/1




Tuor, we did a hobbit Hurt and Heal a while back, but it might be fun to do another one around the time the film comes out.

[the phantom]

I wish to nominate about a dozen people, but since I can't...

Arien!
Aredhel!
Nerdanel!

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Duplicate posting (deleted).

[Tuor in Gondolin]

I see a have a seconding left. So: Second Galadriel
and Nominate: Varda and Yavanna

In:

Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry

Nominated:
Rosie (+1)
Earwen
Andreth
Elwing (+1)
Galadriel (+1)
Ungoliant
Shelob
Varda
Yavanna
Arien!
Aredhel!
Nerdanel!


Nominations / secondings:

G55: 1/2
Pitch: 1/3
Sally: 2/1
Lottie: 1/2
Legate: 2/1
Tuor: 0/0
The Phantom 0/3

[Pitchwife]

Nerdanel!

Not that one again...:rolleyes:

Second Andreth.

In:

Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry

Nominated:
Rosie (+1)
Earwen
Andreth (+1)
Elwing (+1)
Galadriel (+1)
Ungoliant
Shelob
Varda
Yavanna
Arien
Aredhel
Nerdanel


Nominations / secondings:

G55: 1/2
Pitch: 1/2
Sally: 2/1
Lottie: 1/2
Legate: 2/1
Tuor: 0/0
The Phantom 3/0 <--(fixed)

[Mnemosyne]

Nominate Ioreth; second Rosie and Andreth

[Galadriel55]

The Phantom 3/0 <--(fixed)

Wait... I think Tuor's count is right... Phantom used up all his nominations, and he still has 3 secondings.

Second Yavanna.

In:

Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth

Nominated:

Earwen
Elwing (+1)
Galadriel (+1)
Ungoliant
Shelob
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Aredhel
Nerdanel
Ioreth


Nominations / secondings left:

G55: 1/1
Pitch: 1/2
Sally: 2/1
Lottie: 1/2
Legate: 2/1
Tuor: 0/0
The Phantom 0/3
Mnemo: 2/1

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Nominating Vána...

In:

Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth

Nominated:

Earwen
Elwing (+1)
Galadriel (+1)
Ungoliant
Shelob
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Aredhel
Nerdanel
Ioreth
Vána


Nominations / secondings left:

G55: 1/1
Pitch: 1/2
Sally: 2/1
Lottie: 1/2
Legate: 1/1
Tuor: 0/0
The Phantom 0/3
Mnemo: 2/1

[Pitchwife]

Wait... I think Tuor's count is right... Phantom used up all his nominations, and he still has 3 secondings.
Gah, you're right. Stupid me.:o

And I second Ioreth.

In:

Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth

Nominated:

Earwen
Elwing (+1)
Galadriel (+1)
Ungoliant
Shelob
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Aredhel
Nerdanel
Ioreth (+1)
Vána


Nominations / secondings left:

G55: 1/1
Pitch: 1/1
Sally: 2/1
Lottie: 1/2
Legate: 1/1
Tuor: 0/0
The Phantom 0/3
Mnemo: 2/1

[Galadriel55]

I nominate Dis. Well, someone has to represent the dwarves! :D


In:

Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth

Nominated:

Earwen
Elwing (+1)
Galadriel (+1)
Ungoliant
Shelob
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Aredhel
Nerdanel
Ioreth (+1)
Vána
Dis


Nominations / secondings left:

G55: 0/1
Pitch: 1/1
Sally: 2/1
Lottie: 1/2
Legate: 1/1
Tuor: 0/0
The Phantom 0/3
Mnemo: 2/1

[Urwen]

This is my chance. Second Aredhel, nominate Nienor/Niniel

And this time, Nienor won't be thrown into Teiglin

[the phantom]

Thanks for seconding Aredhel, Urwen. She's one of the most rocking ladies ever. I LOVE that she told King Turgon- "I'm not your flippin servant, I can go wherever I want. Screw your rules!" And naturally I love that she always was running around and hunting with the Sons of Feanor.

In return, I will second your nomination- Nienor.

In:
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth

Nominated:
Earwen
Elwing (+1)
Galadriel (+1)
Ungoliant
Shelob
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Aredhel (+1)
Nerdanel
Ioreth (+1)
Vána
Dis
Nienor (+1)

Nominations / secondings left:
G55: 0/1
Pitch: 1/1
Sally: 2/1
Lottie: 1/2
Legate: 1/1
Tuor: 0/0
The Phantom 0/2
Mnemo: 2/1
Urwen: 2/2

[Loslote]

In:

Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth

Nominated:

Earwen
Elwing (+1)
Galadriel (+1)
Ungoliant
Shelob
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Aredhel (+1)
Nerdanel
Ioreth (+1)
Vána (+1)
Dis
Nienor (+1)
Silmariën

Nominations / secondings left:
G55: 0/1
Pitch: 1/1
Sally: 2/1
Lottie: 0/1
Legate: 1/1
Tuor: 0/0
The Phantom 0/2
Mnemo: 2/1
Urwen: 2/2

Second Vána and, since no one has yet nominated any Numenorians, nominate Silmariën.

[Galadriel55]

Seconding Galadriel. :p Looks like I've used up all my nominations and secondings, so it's entierly up to you (that is, everyone else) to decide who's going in. :D

In:

Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel

Nominated:

Earwen
Elwing (+1)
Ungoliant
Shelob
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Aredhel (+1)
Nerdanel
Ioreth (+1)
Vána (+1)
Dis
Nienor (+1)
Silmariën

Nominations / secondings left:
G55: 0/0
Pitch: 1/1
Sally: 2/1
Lottie: 0/1
Legate: 1/1
Tuor: 0/0
The Phantom 0/2
Mnemo: 2/1
Urwen: 2/2

[Galadriel55]

This thread seemes to have died down. Why such a loss of interest?

[satansaloser2005]

This thread seemes to have died down. Why such a loss of interest?

Well I think (among other things) a lot of people are busy taking part in Mnemo's RPG. But there's been a downswing in activity lately because this is a busy time of the year.

I'm trying to decide who to use my other nominations on, but I can't make up my mine (hence my own silence).

Be patient! I'm sure the thread will pick up again soon! :D

[Urwen]

All it needs is for someone to bring it back up. Elf hurt and heal was dead for almost a year. All it needs is for someone to start an avalanche.

[Pitchwife]

Oops, I honestly quite forgot about this. Blame RPing!

Looking at the list, I wonder how it's possible that Éowyn hasn't come up yet!
My last nomination goes to her, and my last seconding to Ungoliant (we need more baddies in the competition, and she rocks!).

That makes it:

In:

Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel

Nominated:

Earwen
Elwing (+1)
Ungoliant (+1)
Shelob
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Aredhel (+1)
Nerdanel
Ioreth (+1)
Vána (+1)
Dis
Nienor (+1)
Silmariën
Éowyn

Nominations / secondings left:
G55: 0/0
Pitch: 0/0
Sally: 2/1
Lottie: 0/1
Legate: 1/1
Tuor: 0/0
The Phantom 0/2
Mnemo: 2/1
Urwen: 2/2

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Looking at the list, I wonder how it's possible that Éowyn hasn't come up yet!
I've been wondering about it for a long time, but then I thought that perhaps she is so "obvious" that nobody wanted to nominate her. I am more in the mood to favour of "outsiders" now, but surely good to have her there anyway...

I have been also thinking about Aerin, but she was in the last game, so I am still wondering if there isn't any better "outsider". I'm surprised nobody nominated Erendis this far, or Ancalimë, or Zamin, or other Númenorean women. Though not that they'd be my favourite...

Well, I shall nominate Ar-Zimraphel (aka: Tar-Míriel, please do not confuse with Míriel, that's why I'm going to write her Númenorean name), so that makes it:

In:

Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel

Nominated:

Earwen
Elwing (+1)
Ungoliant (+1)
Shelob
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Aredhel (+1)
Nerdanel
Ioreth (+1)
Vána (+1)
Dis
Nienor (+1)
Silmariën
Éowyn
Ar-Zimraphel

Nominations / secondings left:
G55: 0/0
Pitch: 0/0
Sally: 2/1
Lottie: 0/1
Legate: 0/1
Tuor: 0/0
The Phantom 0/2
Mnemo: 2/1
Urwen: 2/2

[Galadriel55]

Good to see this thread going again!


I'm surprised nobody nominated Erendis this far, or Ancalimë, or Zamin, or other Númenorean women. Though not that they'd be my favourite...

There is Silmarien...

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

There is Silmarien...

But she's the only one. The point is, I would have expected people at least remembering the others too...

[Urwen]

Earwen
Elwing (+2)
Ungoliant (+1)
Shelob
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Aredhel (+1)
Nerdanel
Ioreth (+1)
Vána (+1)
Dis
Nienor (+1)
Silmariën
Éowyn
Ar-Zimraphel (+1)

And that is it. Elwing makes the slots.

Although, some more secondings on Aredhel and Nienor would be appreciated...

[Galadriel55]

In:

Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing

Nominated:

Earwen
Ungoliant (+1)
Shelob
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Aredhel (+1)
Nerdanel
Ioreth (+1)
Vána (+1)
Dis
Nienor (+1)
Silmariën
Éowyn
Ar-Zimraphel (+1)

Nominations / secondings left:
G55: 0/0
Pitch: 0/0
Sally: 2/1
Lottie: 0/1
Legate: 0/1
Tuor: 0/0
The Phantom 0/2
Mnemo: 2/1
Urwen: 2/0

[satansaloser2005]

Good gracious! I thought I'd seconded Shelob already, but I clearly forgot.

Use my last seconding on Shelob, and nominate Erendis.

Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing

Nominated:

Earwen
Ungoliant (+1)
Shelob (+1)
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Aredhel (+1)
Nerdanel
Ioreth (+1)
Vána (+1)
Dis
Nienor (+1)
Silmariën
Éowyn
Ar-Zimraphel (+1)
Erendis

Nominations / secondings left:
G55: 0/0
Pitch: 0/0
Sally: 1/0
Lottie: 0/1
Legate: 0/1
Tuor: 0/0
The Phantom 0/2
Mnemo: 2/1
Urwen: 2/0

[Urwen]

I still have two nominations. I think I'll use them on Nienna and *drumroll* Idril Celebrindal. Yes, that's where I'll use them.

[satansaloser2005]

Urwen, please do update the list accordingly when you make changes. Thank you.


In:
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing

Nominated:
Earwen
Ungoliant (+1)
Shelob (+1)
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Aredhel (+1)
Nerdanel
Ioreth (+1)
Vána (+1)
Dis
Nienor (+1)
Silmariën
Éowyn
Ar-Zimraphel (+1)
Erendis
Nienna
Idril


Nominations / secondings left:
G55: 0/0
Pitch: 0/0
Sally: 1/0
Lottie: 0/1
Legate: 0/1
Tuor: 0/0
The Phantom 0/2
Mnemo: 2/1
Urwen: 0/0

[Pitchwife]

Something goes *bump* in the night.

[Galadriel55]

Something goes *bump* in the night.

Yet another futile attempt to revive the thread. :D

In other words,

BUMP!!!

[LadyBrooke]

Slightly confused about how to do this, so if I make a mistake, tell me please....

I'll nominate Nimloth and Vairë, and second Nienna...that leaves me with 1/2 right?

In:
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing

Nominated:
Earwen
Ungoliant (+1)
Shelob (+1)
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Aredhel (+1)
Nerdanel
Ioreth (+1)
Vána (+1)
Dis
Nienor (+1)
Silmariën
Éowyn
Ar-Zimraphel (+1)
Erendis
Nienna (+1)
Idril
Nimloth
Vairë

Nominations / secondings left:
G55: 0/0
Pitch: 0/0
Sally: 1/0
Lottie: 0/1
Legate: 0/1
Tuor: 0/0
The Phantom 0/2
Mnemo: 2/1
Urwen: 0/0
Brooke: 1/2

[Galadriel55]

Slightly confused about how to do this, so if I make a mistake, tell me please....

First we nominate people, and then kill them off... I was hoping that we will have 20 nominees before we start healing and hurting, but we're only at 7 so far... I don't know how it will work out.

I'll nominate Nimloth and Vairë, and second Nienna...that leaves me with 1/2 right?

Yep! You got it! :)



I'm thinking of allowing each person 4 nominations and secondings, maybe then there'll be more candidates. Or stop at 15 nominees so that we can get to the actual game faster. Or both. Thoughts?

[LadyBrooke]

I would keep each person at 3 nominations, but increase the number of seconds to 4, since each character has to have 2 seconds...that might reach the goal at little faster...

[Galadriel55]

Ok, thanks for the suggestion, Brooke!

CHANGE OF RULES: everybody has 4 secondings. I updated the list of voters below to fit the change.


And while I'm at it, I third Nienna.


In:
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing
Nienna

Nominated:
Earwen
Ungoliant (+1)
Shelob (+1)
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Aredhel (+1)
Nerdanel
Ioreth (+1)
Vána (+1)
Dis
Nienor (+1)
Silmariën
Éowyn
Ar-Zimraphel (+1)
Erendis
Idril
Nimloth
Vairë

Nominations / secondings left:
G55: 0/0
Pitch: 0/1
Sally: 1/1
Lottie: 0/2
Legate: 0/2
Tuor: 0/1
The Phantom 0/3
Mnemo: 2/2
Urwen: 0/1
Brooke: 1/3

[Loslote]

In:
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing
Nienna
Ar-Zimraphel

Nominated:
Earwen
Ungoliant (+1)
Shelob (+1)
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Aredhel (+1)
Nerdanel
Ioreth (+1)
Vána (+1)
Dis
Nienor (+1)
Silmariën
Éowyn
Erendis (+1)
Idril
Nimloth
Vairë

Nominations / secondings left:
G55: 0/0
Pitch: 0/1
Sally: 1/1
Lottie: 0/0
Legate: 0/2
Tuor: 0/1
The Phantom 0/3
Mnemo: 2/2
Urwen: 0/1
Brooke: 1/3

In that case, finalize Ar-Zimraphel and second Erendis.

[Urwen]

My final seconding goes to Nienor, cos no one will do it instead.

In:
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing
Nienna
Ar-Zimraphel
Nienor

Nominated:
Earwen
Ungoliant (+1)
Shelob (+1)
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Aredhel (+1)
Nerdanel
Ioreth (+1)
Vána (+1)
Dis
Silmariën
Éowyn
Erendis (+1)
Idril
Nimloth
Vairë

Nominations / secondings left:
G55: 0/0
Pitch: 0/1
Sally: 1/1
Lottie: 0/0
Legate: 0/2
Tuor: 0/1
The Phantom 0/3
Mnemo: 2/2
Urwen: 0/0
Brooke: 1/3

Welcome to complete insanity, for Mourning is in!

[satansaloser2005]

Goodness. Decisions, decisions....

Well, I suppose I'll second Nerdanel. After all, she did so well last time. :Merisu:


In:
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing
Nienna
Ar-Zimraphel
Nienor

Nominated:
Earwen
Ungoliant (+1)
Shelob (+1)
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Aredhel (+1)
Nerdanel (+1)
Ioreth (+1)
Vána (+1)
Dis
Silmariën
Éowyn
Erendis (+1)
Idril
Nimloth
Vairë

Nominations / secondings left:
G55: 0/0
Pitch: 0/1
Sally: 1/0
Lottie: 0/0
Legate: 0/2
Tuor: 0/1
The Phantom 0/3
Mnemo: 2/2
Urwen: 0/0
Brooke: 1/3

[Galadriel55]

Urwen, I'm sorry, but I don't think you can second Nienor. She's your nominee. You can still use that last seconding on someone else's nominee, though.

In:
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing
Nienna
Ar-Zimraphel

Nominated:
Earwen
Ungoliant (+1)
Shelob (+1)
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Aredhel (+1)
Nerdanel (+1)
Ioreth (+1)
Vána (+1)
Dis
Silmariën
Éowyn
Erendis (+1)
Idril
Nimloth
Vairë
Nienor (+1)

Nominations / secondings left:
G55: 0/0
Pitch: 0/1
Sally: 1/0
Lottie: 0/0
Legate: 0/2
Tuor: 0/1
The Phantom 0/3
Mnemo: 2/2
Urwen: 0/1
Brooke: 1/3

[Urwen]

But no one else would do it. But let's have it a deal: I will second Aredhel...if you could convince someone to second Nienor.

[Galadriel55]

It's totally up to you who you choose to second, as long as it's not your own nominee. As for convincing people - Pitch, Legate, Tuor, tp, Mnemo, and Brooke still hav nominations. You could try asking them. :):cool:

[Pitchwife]

Urwen, I'd trade you a seconding for Nienor against one for Ioreth. How about that?

[Urwen]

Well, okay. You know what to do.

[Pitchwife]

Me first, eh? I'm a man of my word, you know.
Allrighty, have it your way. Respawned seconding goes to Nienor.

In:
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing
Nienna
Ar-Zimraphel
Nienor

Nominated:
Earwen
Ungoliant (+1)
Shelob (+1)
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Aredhel (+1)
Nerdanel (+1)
Ioreth (+1)
Vána (+1)
Dis
Silmariën
Éowyn
Erendis (+1)
Idril
Nimloth
Vairë

Nominations / secondings left:
G55: 0/0
Pitch: 0/0
Sally: 1/0
Lottie: 0/0
Legate: 0/2
Tuor: 0/1
The Phantom 0/3
Mnemo: 2/2
Urwen: 0/1
Brooke: 1/3

[Urwen]

In:
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing
Nienna
Ar-Zimraphel
Nienor
Ioreth

Nominated:
Earwen
Ungoliant (+1)
Shelob (+1)
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Aredhel (+1)
Nerdanel (+1)
Vána (+1)
Dis
Silmariën
Éowyn
Erendis (+1)
Idril
Nimloth
Vairë

Nominations / secondings left:
G55: 0/0
Pitch: 0/0
Sally: 1/0
Lottie: 0/0
Legate: 0/2
Tuor: 0/1
The Phantom 0/3
Mnemo: 2/2
Urwen: 0/0
Brooke: 1/3

And a good trade it was...But you know, I could have double-crossed you and gave my seconding to Aredhel...too bad there's this thing called honour. I could have had both of them in... *sigh*

[Pitchwife]

Good girl!:)

And a good trade it was...But you know, I could have double-crossed you and gave my seconding to Aredhel...too bad there's this thing called honour. I could have had both of them in... *sigh*
Of course you could have. But I guarantee you wouldn't have wanted to read the tirade about the honour of the House of Dor-lómin I had in petto for that case.:p

[Urwen]

Well, I suppose one has to sacrifice something for sake of one's sister. :p

[the phantom]

++Nienor

And now you can use your seconding on Aredhel, Urwen.

[Urwen]

So sorry, but my votes are retracted and void, so it's like this again! Yay!

In:
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing
Nienna
Ar-Zimraphel
Nienor
Aredhel


Nominated:
Earwen
Ungoliant (+1)
Shelob (+1)
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Aredhel (+1)
Nerdanel (+1)
Vána (+1)
Dis
Silmariën
Éowyn
Erendis (+1)
Idril
Nimloth
Vairë
Ioreth

Although, if this isn't valid, I'll be happy to include Ioreth again, okay?

[Pitchwife]

As promised:

*raises a pole carved with baleful runes and crowned with a horse's naked skull facing towards Hithlum, clears his throat, shakes his fist at the Ered Lómin and declaims:*

"Let it be known to all and sundry, be they friend or foe or foul offspring of Morgoth Bauglir, Valar of the West or Variags of the East, Elves or Dwarves or mortal Men that in after days on earth shall dwell, that the honour of the House of Dor-lómin is as cheaply bought as Balrog-droppings in the pits of Angband, their word as worthless as the snot on an Orc's nose, and that their constancy changes more quickly than the greediest Hobbit can make room for another meal in his stomach. Not Laughter should they have called you, but Cackle. Túrin should have celebrated when you died. Húrin would sooner have unmanned himself and Morwen had a hysterectomy before giving life to such treacherous Orc-spawn. Galdor would have grieved to know he had such a granddaughter. Hador would have hid his head in shame. Hathol would have wept, Magor would have moped, Malach would have vomited and Marach would have farted in your general direction. Mîm would have approved of you, Glaurung would have applauded you, and decency forbids me to name what Morgoth would have had for pride of you, but it would have hit Ancalagon the Black cruising ten miles above the highest peaks of Thangorodrim. If Maedhros killed you, he did right, and glory be to him!"

And phantom, you backstabbing scoundrel, pick your share.

[Urwen]

Whoa, whoa. I'd rather pick Aredhel than Ioreth. And the opportunity presented itself. And note that I only did this when the phantom gave me the opportunity. I like Aredhel, and that's that!

Oh, and I forgot: May your boyfriend burn in agony, day after day in those fiery pits he cast himself into! I heard you planned to marry the very elf that killed countless innocents. Go, ahead, and marry the man who has blood of my ancestors and MY kin on his hands. Go ahead and marry him, and may you both burn. And I have more where that came from. Olwe was My father's brother's grandson's wife's mother's father's brother! Cope with it! Olwe is MY distant kin...I will avenge my kin and myself too! *hurls a knife at Maedhros at his wedding.*

[Galadriel55]

Talk about Cackles (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=17167)? ;)

I have something to say against this whole thing.

a) Phantom voted for a person that was already in.
b) Urwen made a deal and signed a contract - we've all seen your written agreement to vote for Ioreth!
c) Urwen retracted votes upon which other people's decisions and actions were based upon

I'd rather pick Aredhel than Ioreth. And the opportunity presented itself. And note that I only did this when the phantom gave me the opportunity. I like Aredhel, and that's that!

I understand that you like her, but that doesn't mean that you're allowed double-dealings. Morgoth would be mighty pleased, if he could see you now. Think he'd got a new friend, he would. Plus, tp also voted against the "unofficial rules".

(And. Really, tp?)

I am against tp's and Urwens 2 last votes for reasons above, but I want to hear more opinions before I change anything on the list.



EDIT:

Oh, and I forgot: May your boyfriend burn in agony, day after day in those fiery pits he cast himself into! I heard you planned to marry the very elf that killed countless innocents. Go, ahead, and marry the man who has blood of my ancestors and MY kin on his hands. Go ahead and marry him, and may you both burn. And I have more where that came from. Olwe was My father's brother's grandson's wife's mother's father's brother! Cope with it! Olwe is MY distant kin...I will avenge my kin and myself too! *hurls a knife at Maedhros at his wedding.*

Are you talking to Pitch? In that case, wrong gender! ;)

[Pitchwife]

G55, it's your thread, it's yours to decide if you feel the rules have been broken. I don't really care that much. Let Urwen have her Aredhel, if it means so much to her.

Whoa, whoa. I'd rather pick Aredhel than Ioreth. And the opportunity presented itself. And note that I only did this when the phantom gave me the opportunity. I like Aredhel, and that's that!
Well, you didn't have to agree to my deal then, did you? But you did, and went back on your word at the first occasion. Now live with it.
And as for phantom, see above.

(No, I'm not that mad at you - it's a game, after all. But writing that philippika was rather satisfying, and I've always wanted to raise a niðstöng against somebody.:p)

PS. - Nice try! You're right, I would totally marry Maedhros, he's gorgeous. Too bad I'm male, straight and happily married already...

[Urwen]

Well, let's end this peacefully. Let Nienor and Aredhel enter. That way, we could avoid the flame war.

[Pitchwife]

Well, let's end this peacefully. Let Nienor and Aredhel enter. That way, we could avoid the flame war.
You're cute, you know that? Let both your favourites enter, and all will be well. What a brilliant solution! Why didn't I think of that earlier!:D

Seriously though, grow up. (And thank your lucky stars you won't be seeing a real flame war on this forum.)

[Urwen]

Um, sorry, but I'm doing this for the phantom. He wants Aredhel in. And he put Nienor in. So, I'm putting her in.

While Aredhel is my fav, she isn't in first place. Nienor is.

[Pitchwife]

*shrugs*

[the phantom]

"Backstabbing scoundrel", eh? Come now, I am a treacherous fellow when playing Werewolf and the like, but I hardly think I've earned it this time around.

All I know is that I received a PM asking for a seconding of Nienor in exchange for a seconding of Aredhel. Both characters seemed worthy of inclusion, so I posted. As far as whatever rules may or may not have been broken, I'm quite busy and not terribly keen to be drawn into anything, and thus I will refrain from reading or considering carefully so as to remain blissfully removed from the debate. ;)

[Pitchwife]

OK then, I'll amend "backstabbing scoundrel" to "absent-minded phabbler". Content?

Whatever, let's get back to business. I've nothing particular against Nienor, and I have something remotely resembling a liking for Aredhel, so let's have them both in for all I care. (After all, cannon fodder has got to come from somewhere.)
But Urwen's last list has taken my earlier seconding away from Ioreth. I'd like to see that restored, and maybe someone else will have the sense to give her anothre one.

[LadyBrooke]

Okay, first of all - tp seems like he's the innocent bystander in all this, so no hard feelings against you from me. :D Urwen, please, we all understand that you have rather hard feelings against everyone that you think had anything to do with Lalaith's death, but it's starting to get annoying. If you're going to post and take back your votes, at least check if it's okay first. And read the rules. There's character's I'd like to get in, but I'm not going to try and use my seconds to get my nominees in, which is what started this whole mess.

Now, Pitch, I think this is a corrected list - I've added your seconding for Ioreth back in, and I'm pretty sure that tp's vote tally should go down one, leaving him with 2 seconds.

In:
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing
Nienna
Ar-Zimraphel
Nienor
Aredhel


Nominated:
Earwen
Ungoliant (+1)
Shelob (+1)
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Aredhel (+1)
Nerdanel (+1)
Vána (+1)
Dis
Silmariën
Éowyn
Erendis (+1)
Idril
Nimloth
Vairë
Ioreth (+1)

Nominations / secondings left:
G55: 0/0
Pitch: 0/0
Sally: 1/0
Lottie: 0/0
Legate: 0/2
Tuor: 0/1
The Phantom 0/2
Mnemo: 2/2
Urwen: 0/0
Brooke: 1/3

I'll try to think of who to second later...I'm not all together that fond of 99% of the women in Tolkien's works, so it's going to take awhile...

[Galadriel55]

...How I hate responsibility! :D But you sorted out this mess without making me as the thread starter force some rule or another... :p

I think Pitch has to get his seconding back. So, here's the tally:


In:
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing
Nienna
Ar-Zimraphel
Nienor
Aredhel


Nominated:
Earwen
Ungoliant (+1)
Shelob (+1)
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Nerdanel (+1)
Vána (+1)
Dis
Silmariën
Éowyn
Erendis (+1)
Idril
Nimloth
Vairë
Ioreth (+1)

Nominations / secondings left:
G55: 0/0
Pitch: 0/1
Sally: 1/0
Lottie: 0/0
Legate: 0/2
Tuor: 0/1
The Phantom 0/2
Mnemo: 2/2
Urwen: 0/0
Brooke: 1/3


PS: here's a suggestion! TP, why don't you second Ioreth as well? ;) That way you will prove yourself not to be a "backstabbing scoundrel".

[the phantom]

PS: here's a suggestion! TP, why don't you second Ioreth as well?
Would that solve whatever problems exist? If so....

++Ioreth

[LadyBrooke]

Would that solve whatever problems exist? If so....

++Ioreth

It should...Pitch's character is back in now. :D

And just because I'm bored, I'll update the list...I still haven't figured out who to spend my seconds on. :p


In:
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing
Nienna
Ar-Zimraphel
Nienor
Aredhel
Ioreth

Nominated:
Earwen
Ungoliant (+1)
Shelob (+1)
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Nerdanel (+1)
Vána (+1)
Dis
Silmariën
Éowyn
Erendis (+1)
Idril
Nimloth
Vairë

Nominations / secondings left:
G55: 0/0
Pitch: 0/1
Sally: 1/0
Lottie: 0/0
Legate: 0/2
Tuor: 0/1
The Phantom 0/1
Mnemo: 2/2
Urwen: 0/0
Brooke: 1/3

[Tuor in Gondolin]

In:
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing
Nienna
Ar-Zimraphel
Nienor
Aredhel
Ioreth
Ungoliant

Nominated:
Earwen
Shelob (+1)
Varda
Yavanna (+1)
Arien
Nerdanel (+1)
Vána (+1)
Dis
Silmariën
Éowyn
Erendis (+1)
Idril
Nimloth
Vairë

Nominations / secondings left:
G55: 0/0
Pitch: 0/1
Sally: 1/0
Lottie: 0/0
Legate: 0/2
Tuor: 0/0
The Phantom 0/1
Mnemo: 2/2
Urwen: 0/0
Brooke: 1/3

[Pitchwife]

All is forgiven, phantom.

OK, if I still have a seconding left, it goes to
++Yavanna
Because I have a thing for Earth Mother goddesses.

In:
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing
Nienna
Ar-Zimraphel
Nienor
Aredhel
Ioreth
Ungoliant
Yavanna

Nominated:
Earwen
Shelob (+1)
Varda
Arien
Nerdanel (+1)
Vána (+1)
Dis
Silmariën
Éowyn
Erendis (+1)
Idril
Nimloth
Vairë

Nominations / secondings left:
G55: 0/0
Pitch: 0/0
Sally: 1/0
Lottie: 0/0
Legate: 0/2
Tuor: 0/0
The Phantom 0/1
Mnemo: 2/2
Urwen: 0/0
Brooke: 1/3

[satansaloser2005]

I don't plan to nominate anyone else. Would anyone be terribly opposed to me using it as a second instead (just so we can get this going)?

Also, how many people do we plan to have? We have quite a nice list already.

[LadyBrooke]

I don't plan to nominate anyone else. Would anyone be terribly opposed to me using it as a second instead (just so we can get this going)?

Also, how many people do we plan to have? We have quite a nice list already.

I wouldn't be terribly opposed to it, though its not my thread...and I believe the plan was for 20 people on the final list, so we would need 6 more. :D I'm just hoping that one of my favs makes it on there...and I'm still trying to figure out who to use my seconds on. :p

[satansaloser2005]

I wouldn't be terribly opposed to it, though its not my thread...and I believe the plan was for 20 people on the final list, so we would need 6 more. :D I'm just hoping that one of my favs makes it on there...and I'm still trying to figure out who to use my seconds on. :p



Ah, quite right. I've no idea why it seems like such a big group, but we do in fact normally start with twenty. Still, that's six more. Hmmmm....


For what it's worth, I would love to see Shelob and Nerdanel on the final list, but I can't second them again. Hint, hint. ;)

[LadyBrooke]

Ah, quite right. I've no idea why it seems like such a big group, but we do in fact normally start with twenty. Still, that's six more. Hmmmm....


For what it's worth, I would love to see Shelob and Nerdanel on the final list, but I can't second them again. Hint, hint. ;)

I'd quite like to see Nimloth on the list...trade you Nerdanel's final second, for a second for Nimloth....

+Nerdanel in any case. She's okay, so I don't mind a second spent on her....

In:
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing
Nienna
Ar-Zimraphel
Nienor
Aredhel
Ioreth
Ungoliant
Yavanna
Nerdanel

Nominated:
Earwen
Shelob (+1)
Varda
Arien
Vána (+1)
Dis
Silmariën
Éowyn
Erendis (+1)
Idril
Nimloth
Vairë

Nominations / secondings left:
G55: 0/0
Pitch: 0/0
Sally: 1/0
Lottie: 0/0
Legate: 0/2
Tuor: 0/0
The Phantom 0/1
Mnemo: 2/2
Urwen: 0/0
Brooke: 1/2

[Galadriel55]

I don't plan to nominate anyone else. Would anyone be terribly opposed to me using it as a second instead (just so we can get this going)?

Errrmmmmm.... why not?

And if that's so, from now on anyone can use their votes as either a nomination or a seconding... although I doubt anyone would want to nominate more people...

Also, how many people do we plan to have? We have quite a nice list already.

20.

I'd quite like to see Nimloth on the list...trade you Nerdanel's final second, for a second for Nimloth....

Will you two be honest, or should we make you give the Oath of Feanor before you make the deal? ;)


Considering the latest changes:

In:
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing
Nienna
Ar-Zimraphel
Nienor
Aredhel
Ioreth
Ungoliant
Yavanna
Nerdanel

Nominated:
Earwen
Shelob (+1)
Varda
Arien
Vána (+1)
Dis
Silmariën
Éowyn
Erendis (+1)
Idril
Nimloth
Vairë

Nominations and secondings left:
G55: 0
Pitch: 0
Sally: 1
Lottie: 0
Legate: 2
Tuor: 0
The Phantom 1
Mnemo: 4
Urwen: 0
Brooke: 3

[LadyBrooke]

Will you two be honest, or should we make you give the Oath of Feanor before you make the deal?

Perfectly honest - I do have a reputation to upload. ;)

Though, how would swearing the oath of Feanor help? Do Sally and I have to go fight to recover the Silmarils in return for our deal (assuming Sally finds it acceptable)? :eek:

[Galadriel55]

Though, how would swearing the oath of Feanor help? Do Sally and I have to go fight to recover the Silmarils in return for our deal (assuming Sally finds it acceptable)? :eek:

No, you just have to call Eru as witness, and call the Everlasting Darkness upon youself if you break your word... :D ;)

/Not really.

[satansaloser2005]

Though, how would swearing the oath of Feanor help? :eek:

We'd have to kill each other in the end. :p


Anyway, as you wish, my lady. I would still really like Shelob to be on the final list, but I trust that someone will put her in the running before we get started, so I'm not worried about it. :)



In:
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing
Nienna
Ar-Zimraphel
Nienor
Aredhel
Ioreth
Ungoliant
Yavanna
Nerdanel

Nominated:
Earwen
Shelob (+1)
Varda
Arien
Vána (+1)
Dis
Silmariën
Éowyn
Erendis (+1)
Idril
Nimloth (+1)
Vairë

Nominations and secondings left:
G55: 0
Pitch: 0
Sally: 0
Lottie: 0
Legate: 2
Tuor: 0
The Phantom 1
Mnemo: 4
Urwen: 0
Brooke: 3

[Galadriel55]

This thread doth need constant prodding.

If there's any interest, we can probably start the actual Hurt/Heal thing soon. We have 15 people in, so that should be enough.

[Galadriel55]

Just wanna ask: why exactly did this thread die down? ;)

Oh, and since I'm here - I don't mind if you post someting new. :p :D

[Galadriel55]

Hey Ladies and Gents,

now that Agan's game is finished, fancy finishing this one? There are 15 ladies on the list, 5 more to go. I suggest doing what we did in Agan's game - eliminate the nomination/seconding limits altogether, which means that everyone has unlimited secondings/nominations. Saying that, though, don't be the mean guy and do all 5 remaining people. :smokin:

IN
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing
Nienna
Ar-Zimraphel
Nienor
Aredhel
Ioreth
Ungoliant
Yavanna
Nerdanel

NOMINATED
Earwen
Shelob (+1)
Varda
Arien
Vána (+1)
Dis
Silmariën
Éowyn
Erendis (+1)
Idril
Nimloth (+1)
Vairë

[the phantom]

I second ++Idril

I would second Arien, but I'm fairly certain I put her on the list to begin with....

I would like to nominate-
++Miriel
++Finduilas
++Nellas

[Loslote]

IN
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing
Nienna
Ar-Zimraphel
Nienor
Aredhel
Ioreth
Ungoliant
Yavanna
Nerdanel

NOMINATED
Earwen
Shelob (+1)
Varda
Arien
Vána (+1)
Dis
Silmariën
Éowyn (+1)
Erendis (+1)
Idril (+1)
Nimloth (+1)
Vairë
Miriel
Finduilas
Nellas

I'll second ++Éowyn.

[satansaloser2005]

Seconding Vairë and asking some brave soul to bump in Shelob (as I can't do it myself).

IN
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing
Nienna
Ar-Zimraphel
Nienor
Aredhel
Ioreth
Ungoliant
Yavanna
Nerdanel
Shelob

NOMINATED
Earwen
Shelob (+1)
Varda
Arien
Vána (+1)
Dis
Silmariën
Éowyn (+1)
Erendis (+1)
Idril (+1)
Nimloth (+1)
Vairë (+1)
Miriel
Finduilas
Nellas

[Galadriel55]

Why not? ++Shelob

IN
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing
Nienna
Ar-Zimraphel
Nienor
Aredhel
Ioreth
Ungoliant
Yavanna
Nerdanel
Shelob

NOMINATED
Earwen
Varda
Arien
Vána (+1)
Dis
Silmariën
Éowyn (+1)
Erendis (+1)
Idril (+1)
Nimloth (+1)
Vairë (+1)
Miriel
Finduilas
Nellas

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Just saw this.

IN
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing
Nienna
Ar-Zimraphel
Nienor
Aredhel
Ioreth
Ungoliant
Yavanna
Nerdanel
Shelob
Erendis
Idril

NOMINATED
Earwen
Varda
Arien
Vána (+1)
Dis (+1)
Silmariën
Éowyn (+1)
Nimloth (+1)
Vairë (+1)
Miriel
Finduilas

[Galadriel55]

Only 2 more to go!

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Sounds nice. Seconding Vána and Vairë, but...

...can anybody explain to me why Estë always gets totally passed by without any attention? Out of the Valier, I mean. Even of the more "random" Valier, some always appear, but she doesn't, as a rule. Absolutely unfair. I would nominate her, but then again, it at least saves me the pain of healing her when others obviously wouldn't care anyway. :(

IN
Thuringwethil
Lobelia
Goldberry
Rosie
Andreth
Galadriel
Elwing
Nienna
Ar-Zimraphel
Nienor
Aredhel
Ioreth
Ungoliant
Yavanna
Nerdanel
Shelob
Erendis
Idril
Vána
Vairë

NOMINATED
Earwen
Varda
Arien
Dis (+1)
Silmariën
Éowyn (+1)
Nimloth (+1)
Miriel
Finduilas

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Interesting. Eowyn didn't make the cut. Faramir better take a
long holiday (perhaps with the in-laws in Rohan) until she cools off.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Interesting. Eowyn didn't make the cut. Faramir better take a
long holiday (perhaps with the in-laws in Rohan) until she cools off.

I think it is nice that we have managed to avoid, except for Galadriel*, the sort of really obvious choices, such as Éowyn.

*(And except for Ungoliant, but at least she is "from the other side", and perhaps also Nienor, but at least she is annoying, at least from my point of view ;))

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Nienor, but at least she is annoying, at least from my point of view )

That whole family (brother, sister, mother, and to some extent daddy) are annoying---in their pigheadedness. Unlike, say, Turin's level headed cousin. :D

[Galadriel55]

That whole family (brother, sister, mother, and to some extent daddy) are annoying

Hey hey! Don't you get me started! ;)

And, speaking of starting, LET THE GAME BEGIN!!!


Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (10)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (10)
Galadriel (10)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (10)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (10)
Ungoliant (10)
Yavanna (10)
Nerdanel (10)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (10)
Vairë (10)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Let's then start with...

Hurt Nienor and Ungoliant, heal Goldberry

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (10)
Galadriel (10)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (9)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (10)
Ungoliant (9)
Yavanna (10)
Nerdanel (10)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (10)
Vairë (10)

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Lobelia
Hurt Ioreth Hurt Andreth

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (9)
Galadriel (10)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (9)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (9)
Ungoliant (9)
Yavanna (10)
Nerdanel (10)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (10)
Vairë (10)

[Galadriel55]

--Vana
--Idril
++Nienor

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (9)
Galadriel (10)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (10)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (9)
Ungoliant (9)
Yavanna (10)
Nerdanel (10)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (9)
Vairë (10)

[Loslote]

++Ar-Zimraphel
--Nienor
--Nerdanel

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (9)
Galadriel (10)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (9)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (9)
Ungoliant (9)
Yavanna (10)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (9)
Vairë (10)

[satansaloser2005]

Oho! It has begun!

Double hurt Galadriel, heal Thuringwethil.

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (9)
Galadriel (8)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (9)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (9)
Ungoliant (9)
Yavanna (10)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (9)
Vairë (10)

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Hurt Nienor Hurt Thuringwethil
Heal Elwing


Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (9)
Galadriel (8)
Elwing (11)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (8)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (9)
Ungoliant (9)
Yavanna (10)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (9)
Vairë (10)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hurt Nienor and Ungoliant, heal Ioreth

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (9)
Galadriel (8)
Elwing (11)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (7)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (10)
Ungoliant (8)
Yavanna (10)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (9)
Vairë (10)

[Loslote]

++Vana
--Galadriel
--Nienor

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (9)
Galadriel (7)
Elwing (11)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (6)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (10)
Ungoliant (8)
Yavanna (10)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (10)
Vairë (10)

[Galadriel55]

++Nienor
--Vana
--Elwing

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (9)
Galadriel (7)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (7)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (10)
Ungoliant (8)
Yavanna (10)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (9)
Vairë (10)

[the phantom]

Heal Nienor
Double Hurt Vana

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (9)
Galadriel (7)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (8)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (10)
Ungoliant (8)
Yavanna (10)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Thuringwethil
Double Hurt Ioreth

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (9)
Galadriel (7)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (8)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (8)
Ungoliant (8)
Yavanna (10)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

[Loslote]

++Andreth
--Nienor
--Yavanna

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (10)
Galadriel (7)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (7)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (8)
Ungoliant (8)
Yavanna (9)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

++Vana
Just for the record, I approve, Lottie :)

Hurt Nienor and Ungoliant, Heal Vána

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (10)
Galadriel (7)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (6)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (8)
Ungoliant (7)
Yavanna (9)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (8)
Vairë (10)

[Galadriel55]

Heal Nienor
Hurt Vana, Thuringwethil

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (10)
Galadriel (7)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (7)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (8)
Ungoliant (7)
Yavanna (9)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Idril
Hurt Galadriel Hurt Yavanna

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (10)
Galadriel (6)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (7)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (8)
Ungoliant (7)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

[Loslote]

Just for the record, I approve, Lottie :)

Well, I'm glad someone does!

++Vana
--Lobelia
--Nienor

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (10)
Galadriel (6)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (6)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (8)
Ungoliant (7)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (8)
Vairë (10)

[the phantom]

Heal Nienor
Double Hurt Galadriel

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (10)
Galadriel (4)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (7)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (8)
Ungoliant (7)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (8)
Vairë (10)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hurt Nienor and Ungoliant
Heal Ioreth

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (10)
Galadriel (4)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (6)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (9)
Ungoliant (6)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (8)
Vairë (10)

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Elwing
Hurt Galadriel Hurt Ioreth

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (10)
Galadriel (3)
Elwing (11)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (6)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (8)
Ungoliant (6)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (8)
Vairë (10)

[Loslote]

++Vana
--Nienor
--Nerdanel

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (10)
Galadriel (3)
Elwing (11)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (5)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (8)
Ungoliant (6)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (9)
Vairë (10)

[Galadriel55]

++Nienor
--Vana x2

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (10)
Galadriel (3)
Elwing (11)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (6)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (8)
Ungoliant (6)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hurt Nienor and Ungoliant, heal Vána (what do you folks have against her anyway?)

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (10)
Galadriel (3)
Elwing (11)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (5)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (8)
Ungoliant (5)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (8)
Vairë (10)

[the phantom]

Nothing against her, lad, just... nothing for her (when compared to some others). I could be convinced, however...

Double Hurt Vana
Heal Nienor

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (10)
Galadriel (3)
Elwing (11)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (6)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (8)
Ungoliant (5)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (6)
Vairë (10)

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Thuringwethil
Hurt Nienor Hurt Ioreth

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (10)
Galadriel (3)
Elwing (11)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (5)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (7)
Ungoliant (5)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (6)
Vairë (10)

[Loslote]

++Vana
--Nienor
--Shelob

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (10)
Galadriel (3)
Elwing (11)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (4)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (7)
Ungoliant (5)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (9)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

[Galadriel55]

--Vana x2 (for same reasons as tp's, essentially... she's good, but others are better)

++Nienor

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (10)
Galadriel (3)
Elwing (11)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (5)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (7)
Ungoliant (5)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (9)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (5)
Vairë (10)

[the phantom]

Double Hurt Vana
Heal Nienor

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (10)
Galadriel (3)
Elwing (11)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (6)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (7)
Ungoliant (5)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (9)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (3)
Vairë (10)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

If "others" are better, I wonder what is so great about *them*.

Hurt Nienor and Ungoliant, heal Ioreth.

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (10)
Galadriel (3)
Elwing (11)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (5)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (8)
Ungoliant (4)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (9)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (3)
Vairë (10)

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Lobelia
Hurt Nienor Hurt Ioreth

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (10)
Galadriel (3)
Elwing (11)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (4)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (7)
Ungoliant (4)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (9)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (3)
Vairë (10)

[satansaloser2005]

Assist on Galadriel and Vána. May Shelob feast on the corpse of whichever of them dies first.

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (10)
Galadriel (2)
Elwing (11)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (4)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (7)
Ungoliant (4)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (2)
Vairë (10)

[Aganzir]

Heal Thuringwethil (this is all you're going to see of me this round)
Double hurt Andreth

Thuringwethil (12)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (8)
Galadriel (2)
Elwing (11)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (4)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (7)
Ungoliant (4)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (2)
Vairë (10)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hurt Nienor and Ungoliant
Heal Vána, for sport

Thuringwethil (12)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (8)
Galadriel (2)
Elwing (11)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (11)
Nienor (3)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (7)
Ungoliant (3)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (3)
Vairë (10)

[Galadriel55]

--Ar-Zimraphel
--Elwing
who, IMO, do not deserve 11s.

++Nienor

Thuringwethil (12)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (8)
Galadriel (2)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (4)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (7)
Ungoliant (3)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (3)
Vairë (10)

[the phantom]

Kill Galadriel (not that one, but the other one)
Heal Nienor

Thuringwethil (12)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (8)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (5)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (7)
Ungoliant (3)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (3)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- pwnd by TP

[Aganzir]

Heal Thuringwethil
Double hurt Andreth

She's a bitter pessimist.

Thuringwethil (13)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Andreth (6)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (5)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (7)
Ungoliant (3)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (3)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- pwnd by TP

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Rosie
Hurt Andreth Hurt Ioreth

Thuringwethil (12)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Andreth (7)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (5)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (6)
Ungoliant (3)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (3)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- pwnd by TP

[Aganzir]

Hey hey we cross posted, can you edit it to include mine? :)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hurt Nienor and Ungoliant
Heal Vána

Thuringwethil (13)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Andreth (5)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (4)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (6)
Ungoliant (2)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (4)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- pwnd by TP

(Mine should be up to date... I hope.)

[the phantom]

Kill Ungoliant
Heal Nienor

Thuringwethil (13)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Andreth (5)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (5)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (6)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (4)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- pwnd by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP

[Aganzir]

Heal Lobelia
Double hurt Andreth

Thuringwethil (13)
Lobelia (12)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Andreth (3)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (5)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (6)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (4)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- pwnd by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP

[Galadriel55]

Tsk, tsk. You lot killed off my namesake? Tut tut tut. That won't do, now, will it?

++Nienor
--Lobelia
--Idril

Thuringwethil (13)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Andreth (3)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (6)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (6)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (4)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- pwnd by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP

[satansaloser2005]

Getting the assist on Andreth and healing Shelob.

Thuringwethil (13)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Andreth (1)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (6)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (6)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (11)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (4)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- pwnd by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP

[the phantom]

Kill Andreth
Hurt Ioreth
Heal Nienor

Thuringwethil (13)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (7)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (5)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (11)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (4)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- pwnd by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- put down by TP

[satansaloser2005]

*high five*

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I see the phantom is well and healthy again. I was worried in the last game that something wrong happened to him and somebody had been impersonating him...

Double hurt Nienor
Heal Vána

Thuringwethil (13)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (5)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (5)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (11)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (5)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- pwnd by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- put down by TP

[Galadriel55]

++Nienor
--Vana
--Lobelia

Thuringwethil (13)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (6)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (5)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (11)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (4)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- pwnd by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- put down by TP

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Idril
Hurt Nienor Hurt Yavanna

Thuringwethil (13)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (5)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (5)
Yavanna (7)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (11)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (4)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- pwnd by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- put down by TP

[Aganzir]

Heal Lobelia
Double hurt Ioreth

Thuringwethil (13)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (5)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (3)
Yavanna (7)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (11)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (4)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- pwnd by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- put down by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Double hurt Nienor
Heal Vána

Thuringwethil (13)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (3)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (3)
Yavanna (7)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (11)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (5)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- pwnd by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- put down by TP

[Galadriel55]

--Shelob
--Idril
++Nienor


Thuringwethil (13)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (4)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (3)
Yavanna (7)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (5)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- pwnd by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- put down by TP

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Elwing
Double Hurt Yavanna

Thuringwethil (13)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Elwing (11)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (4)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (3))
Yavanna (5)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (5)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- pwnd by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- put down by TP

[Aganzir]

Heal Nerdanel
Hurt Ioreth and Nienor

Thuringwethil (13)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Elwing (11)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (3)
Aredhel (10)
Ioreth (2)
Yavanna (5)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (5)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- pwnd by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- put down by TP

[the phantom]

Kill Ioreth
Heal Nienor

Thuringwethil (13)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Elwing (11)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (4)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (5)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (5)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP

[Galadriel55]

++Nienor
--Elwing
--Lobelia

Thuringwethil (13)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (5)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (5)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (5)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Poor Ioreth! She was such a nice person.

Double Hurt Nienor
Heal Vána

Thuringwethil (13)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (3)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (5)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (6)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Erendis
Hurt Nienor Hurt Vana

Thuringwethil (13)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Nienor (2)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (5)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (5)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP

[the phantom]

Kill Nienor
Heal Yavanna

Thuringwethil (13)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (6)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (5)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP

[Galadriel55]

Kill Nienor

Traitor.

--Thuringwethil
--Nerdanel
++Yavanna

Thuringwethil (12)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (7)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (5)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP

[the phantom]

Yeah, sorry. I loved her, but I didn't see her living through the night, thus... just continuing the streak.

[Aganzir]

Heal Thuringwethil
Hurt Yavanna and Nienna

Thuringwethil (13)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (9)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (6)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (10)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (5)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Kill Nienor
Now I feel things are in order at least.

Hurt Thuringwethil and Shelob
Heal Vána

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (9)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (6)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (9)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (6)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Lobelia
Hurt Shelob Hurt Nienna

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (11)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (8)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (6)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (6)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP

[Galadriel55]

++Yavanna
--Lobelia x2

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (9)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (11)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (8)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (7)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (6)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP

[the phantom]

Double Hurt Rosie
Heal Yavanna

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (9)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (9)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (8)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (6)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hurt Thuringwethil and Idril
Heal Vána

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (9)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (9)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (8)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Lobelia
Double Hurt Nienna

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (9)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (6)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP

[Aganzir]

I am double healing Thuringwethil because Legate, it seems, wanted to double hurt her, and then changed his mind but not the tally.
Double hurt Nienna.

Thuringwethil (12)
Lobelia (10)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (9)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (4)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (8)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I am double healing Thuringwethil because Legate, it seems, wanted to double hurt her, and then changed his mind but not the tally.
Oh yeah. You are right about that, of course. Anteeksi!

[Aganzir]

Oh yeah. You are right about that, of course. Anteeksi!
It happens. I just thought "Wait, what, she can't have lost that many points!" and checked what was behind it. :p

[Galadriel55]

++Yavanna
--Thuringwethil
--Lobelia

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (9)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (9)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (4)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (9)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (10)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Riight...

Hurt Thuringwethil and actually I am double hurting Idril, since Tuor seems to have done something similar like I did with Thu and healed her by one! (While he said he was healing somebody else.)
Heal Vána

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (9)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (9)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (4)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (9)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (8)
Vána (8)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP

[satansaloser2005]

Double hurt Nienna (can someone besides TP please get the kill? :p) and heal Rosie.

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (9)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Elwing (10)
Nienna (2)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (9)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (8)
Vána (8)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP

[the phantom]

Kill Nienna
Heal Idril

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (9)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (9)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (8)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP

[Aganzir]

Heal Thuringwethil
Double hurt Yavanna

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (9)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (7)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (9)
Vána (8)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

sally, I guess that means no ;) But I don't mind, I think it's good to see tp back in good form. Or you can try to steal kill from him, and see how well he puts up a fight :)

Hurt Thu and Idril, heal Vána

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (9)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (7)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (8)
Vána (9)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP

[satansaloser2005]

Double hurt Yavanna. Heal Thuringwethil.

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (9)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (5)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (8)
Vána (9)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP

[Galadriel55]

--Vana x2
++Yavanna

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (9)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (10)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (6)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (8)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP

[Aganzir]

Hurt Yavanna and Rosie
Heal Thuringwethil

Thuringwethil (12)
Lobelia (9)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (9)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (5)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (8)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Double Hurt Idril
Heal Yavanna

Thuringwethil (12)
Lobelia (9)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (9)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (6)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (6)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Hurt Thuringwethil and actually I am double hurting Idril, since Tuor seems to have done something similar like I did with Thu and healed her by one! (While he said he was healing somebody else.)
Heal Vána

Very possible. I forgot to amend one entry, tried corecting it, and then
thought it best not to alter any more. Oops!

Heal Idril
Double Hurt Yavanna

Thuringwethil (12)
Lobelia (9)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (9)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (4)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (7)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP

[Galadriel55]

--Lobelia
--Thuringwethil
++Yavanna

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (8)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (9)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (5)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (7)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP

[satansaloser2005]

Hurt Yavanna and Lobelia. Heal Thuringwethil.

Thuringwethil (12)
Lobelia (7)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (9)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (4)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (7)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Double hurt Idril
Heal Yavanna

Thuringwethil (12)
Lobelia (7)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (9)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (5)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (5)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP

[Aganzir]

Heal Thuringwethil
Hurt Yavanna and Rosie

Thuringwethil (13)
Lobelia (7)
Goldberry (11)
Rosie (8)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (4)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (5)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP

[Galadriel55]

--Thuringwethil x2
++Goldberry

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (7)
Goldberry (12)
Rosie (8)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (4)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (5)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Double Hurt Lobelia
Heal idril

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (5)
Goldberry (12)
Rosie (8)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (4)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (6)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Double hurt Idril
Heal Vána

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (5)
Goldberry (12)
Rosie (8)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (4)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (10)
Idril (4)
Vána (8)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP

[satansaloser2005]

Double hurt Yavanna. Heal Shelob.

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (5)
Goldberry (12)
Rosie (8)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Yavanna (2)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (9)
Erendis (10)
Idril (4)
Vána (8)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP

[the phantom]

Kill Yavanna
Heal Idril

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (5)
Goldberry (12)
Rosie (8)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (9)
Erendis (10)
Idril (5)
Vána (8)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

*waits for phantom to appear*

EDIT: crossposted, obviously, by a second ;)

[Aganzir]

Heal Thuringwethil
Double hurt Rosie

Thuringwethil (12)
Lobelia (5)
Goldberry (12)
Rosie (6)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (9)
Erendis (10)
Idril (5)
Vána (8)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Double hurt Idril
Heal Vána

Thuringwethil (12)
Lobelia (5)
Goldberry (12)
Rosie (6)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (9)
Erendis (10)
Idril (3)
Vána (9)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Idril
Double Hurt Vana

Thuringwethil (12)
Lobelia (5)
Goldberry (12)
Rosie (6)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (9)
Erendis (10)
Idril (4)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP

[satansaloser2005]

Double hurt Idril. Heal poor Rosie.

Thuringwethil (12)
Lobelia (5)
Goldberry (12)
Rosie (7)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (9)
Erendis (10)
Idril (2)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP

[the phantom]

Kill Idril
Heal Lobelia

Thuringwethil (12)
Lobelia (6)
Goldberry (12)
Rosie (7)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (9)
Erendis (10)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

To quote certain Ms. Gertrude, "About time, too!"

Double hurt Thu, heal Vána

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (6)
Goldberry (12)
Rosie (7)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (9)
Erendis (10)
Vána (8)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Thuringwethil
Double Hurt Vana

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (6)
Goldberry (12)
Rosie (7)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (9)
Erendis (10)
Vána (6)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP

[Galadriel55]

--Vana
--Shelob
++Erendis

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (6)
Goldberry (12)
Rosie (7)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (8)
Erendis (11)
Vána (5)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP

[the phantom]

Heal Vana
Double hurt Shelob

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (6)
Goldberry (12)
Rosie (7)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (6)
Erendis (11)
Vána (6)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Double hurt Thu
Heal Vána

Thuringwethil (9)
Lobelia (6)
Goldberry (12)
Rosie (7)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (6)
Erendis (11)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Thuringwethil
Hurt Lobelia Hurt Vana

Thuringwethil (10)
Lobelia (5)
Goldberry (12)
Rosie (7)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (6)
Erendis (11)
Vána (6)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP

[Aganzir]

Heal Thuringwethil
Double hurt Rosie

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (5)
Goldberry (12)
Rosie (5)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (6)
Erendis (11)
Vána (6)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP

Legate dear, what's your problem with Thuringwethil?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Legate dear, what's your problem with Thuringwethil?

I don't have any problem with her, but she is among the least interesting of the present people. I mean, there is really nothing whatsoever about her in the books, what is one supposed to do with that? In any case, certainly she should not have, like, twelve points or what it was.

[Aganzir]

I don't have any problem with her, but she is among the least interesting of the present people. I mean, there is really nothing whatsoever about her in the books, what is one supposed to do with that? In any case, certainly she should not have, like, twelve points or what it was.
She's a vampire! She can fly! She's Lúthien in disguise, or some Maia's physical form that Lúthien stole. And she's my personal title. What's not cool about that? :p

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

She's a vampire! She can fly! She's Lúthien in disguise, or some Maia's physical form that Lúthien stole. And she's my personal title. What's not cool about that? :p

Especially the latter, of course :p Vampires are overrated. Flying is cool, but Thorondor can do that too and probably better, and who knows whether balrogs can't do that too ;) She would probably have been somewhat interesting had there been any information whatsoever about her. Alas, there is none, not even a little bit to stir some imagination. I consider that Tolkien's failure a bit, but maybe it just wasn't important enough. And that brings me back to my point.

[Aganzir]

Especially the latter, of course Vampires are overrated. Flying is cool, but Thorondor can do that too and probably better, and who knows whether balrogs can't do that too She would probably have been somewhat interesting had there been any information whatsoever about her. Alas, there is none, not even a little bit to stir some imagination. I consider that Tolkien's failure a bit, but maybe it just wasn't important enough. And that brings me back to my point.
But Thorondor isn't female. ;) I don't think it's a failure on Tolkien's part, insomuch as not finishing The Silmarillion before dying was a failure. :p And what, don't you like mysterious ladies?

[the phantom]

But of course when Tolkien fails to provide an adequate back-story and details, it forces us to invent our own to bridge the gap- which means Thuringwethil is precisely as awesome as Maria's imagination can make her.

And apparently the answer to "how awesome?" is "12" on a 0 to 10 scale. ;)

Sounds about right.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

But Thorondor isn't female. ;) I don't think it's a failure on Tolkien's part, insomuch as not finishing The Silmarillion before dying was a failure. :p And what, don't you like mysterious ladies?
Truth be told, no. I think the whole concept of mysterious ladies is kinda overused and, therefore, overrated and boring already. Or at least the way it's usually done. A vampire mysterious lady brings to mind the worst clichés. I would at least hope that Tolkien would have made his vampire woman something more than the average B-class vampire movie main star, though at his time it probably wasn't the same thing.

But of course when Tolkien fails to provide an adequate back-story and details, it forces us to invent our own to bridge the gap- which means Thuringwethil is precisely as awesome as Maria's imagination can make her.

And apparently the answer to "how awesome?" is "12" on a 0 to 10 scale. ;)

Sounds about right.

Sure, sure. Personally, I am all for the reader's invention. But exactly: for me, she is just a boring batwoman.

[Aganzir]

Sounds about right.
Yes, it does.

A vampire mysterious lady brings to mind the worst clichés. I would at least hope that Tolkien would have made his vampire woman something more than the average B-class vampire movie main star, though at his time it probably wasn't the same thing..
Give the Professor some credit. :p Are any of his heroes or heroines B-class action film stars?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Give the Professor some credit. :p Are any of his heroes or heroines B-class action film stars?

They are not, but that's exactly what I am wondering about then. Where did this idea come from? And anyway, so how do *you* imagine Thuringwethil? Because you make it sound like that it is not the average B-class movie lady vampire, so what is it, then?

[Galadriel55]

Truth be told, no. I think the whole concept of mysterious ladies is kinda overused and, therefore, overrated and boring already.

Well, there's one mysterious lady who I think deserves more points than Mrs. Bat. ;)

++Goldberry
--Lobelia
--Vana

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (4)
Goldberry (13)
Rosie (5)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (6)
Erendis (11)
Vána (5)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP



I mean, I like old Thu too, and as it turns out I was the one who nominated her, but I just think some other ladies on the list are better. I wouldn't mind if Thu wins, though. I would just rather some others do.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Way to go, G55 :)

Who cares, I'm going to leave the old bat be for the time being. There are still others who could go for the chopping block.

Double hurt Erendis (seriously, 11?), heal Vána.

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (4)
Goldberry (13)
Rosie (5)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (6)
Erendis (9)
Vána (6)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP

P.S. And yeah, if you call Goldberry "mysterious lady", then I am all for it - that is the kind of "mysterious ladies" I like. I have been just thinking, if I was supposed to say the "type" of mysterious ladies I like, then it would be exactly things a bit of the Goldberryish sort, or then some sort of "no one knows whence they came from and where they are going", usually with some spiritual background. For illustration, if I think about my favourite characters from elsewhere who could fall into a kind of similar cathegory, they are an exiled Jedi Knight, her very old mentor who always appeared and disappeared in a bit Gandalf-ish way, but nobody could tell whether she didn't have some sinister agenda, and another female knight who was so mysterious that she did not even know who she was. (I'm sorry I could not provide examples from Tolkien's universe, but well, as we know, the Prof had possibly only one tiny deficient thing in his works, and that was the little bit of neglection of the ladies. But that's old story.)

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Elwing
Hurt Shelob Hurt Vana

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (4)
Goldberry (13)
Rosie (5)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (5)
Erendis (9)
Vána (5)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP

[satansaloser2005]

Double hurt Lobelia. Heal Rosie.

Thuringwethil (11)
Lobelia (2)
Goldberry (13)
Rosie (6)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (5)
Erendis (9)
Vána (5)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP

[the phantom]

Kill Lobelia
Heal Vana

Thuringwethil (11)
Goldberry (13)
Rosie (6)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (5)
Erendis (9)
Vána (6)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Double hurt Erendis
Heal Vána

Thuringwethil (11)
Goldberry (13)
Rosie (6)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (5)
Erendis (7)
Vána (7)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP

[Galadriel55]

--Vana
--Rosie
++Erendis

Thuringwethil (11)
Goldberry (13)
Rosie (5)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (5)
Erendis (8)
Vána (6)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP

[satansaloser2005]

Double hurt Vana. Heal Rosie.

Thuringwethil (11)
Goldberry (13)
Rosie (6)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (5)
Erendis (8)
Vána (4)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP

[Aganzir]

I literally have to leave in a minute, so I'll reply to your points later.

Heal Nerdanel (come on, she was able to handle Fëanor, there must be something about her)
Hurt Rosie and Ar-Zimraphel

Thuringwethil (11)
Goldberry (13)
Rosie (5)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (5)
Erendis (8)
Vána (4)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Heal Vána
Double Hurt Erendis

Thuringwethil (11)
Goldberry (13)
Rosie (5)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (9)
Shelob (5)
Erendis (7)
Vána (5)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP

[Galadriel55]

Is it just my computer, or does the forum look very weird to everyone else as well? The top says "Deprecated: Assigning the return value of new by reference is deprecated in /home/barrowwight/public_html/forum.barrow/includes/init.php on line 48" about a dozen times, and the box around the text that I'm typing right now is white (and for once you can see the ??? on the :confused: smiley... :rolleyes:) Also, the websote seems to be too big for my screen, so I have to scroll horizontally, which only happened before when there were large pictures on the thread...


++Goldberry
--Thu
--Nerdanel

Thuringwethil (10)
Goldberry (14)
Rosie (5)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (5)
Erendis (7)
Vána (5)
Vairë (10)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Is it just my computer, or does the forum look very weird to everyone else as well? The top says "Deprecated: Assigning the return value of new by reference is deprecated in /home/barrowwight/public_html/forum.barrow/includes/init.php on line 48" about a dozen times, and the box around the text that I'm typing right now is white (and for once you can see the ??? on the :confused: smiley... :rolleyes:) Also, the websote seems to be too big for my screen, so I have to scroll horizontally, which only happened before when there were large pictures on the thread...

Yep, I think that's something global, it seems to be happening to me as well, and I assume to others too... some weird thing, who knows. At least it is not harming the functioning of the forum, so :)

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Same odd elements on the board here, but other sites (like ToRN
and DailyKos) seem unaffected.

Heal Vaira
Double Hurt Shelob

Thuringwethil (10)
Goldberry (14)
Rosie (5)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (3)
Erendis (7)
Vána (5)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP

[satansaloser2005]

Oh yeah, that's a bit strange....

Heal Rosie (I've rather given up on Shelob). Double hurt Goldberry, because that's a bit ridiculous. Nobody's *that* awesome.

Thuringwethil (10)
Goldberry (12)
Rosie (6)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (3)
Erendis (7)
Vána (5)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I'd say she is :) At least among those, she really shines.

Double hurt Thu, heal Vána

Thuringwethil (8)
Goldberry (12)
Rosie (6)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (3)
Erendis (7)
Vána (6)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP

[Aganzir]

Heal Thuringwethil
Double hurt Rosie

Thuringwethil (9)
Goldberry (12)
Rosie (4)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (3)
Erendis (7)
Vána (6)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Thuringwethil
Hurt Shelob Hurt Vana

Thuringwethil (10)
Goldberry (12)
Rosie (4)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Shelob (2)
Erendis (7)
Vána (5)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP

[the phantom]

Kill Shelob
Heal Rosie

Thuringwethil (10)
Goldberry (12)
Rosie (5)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Erendis (7)
Vána (5)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Double hurt Erendis
Heal Vána

Thuringwethil (10)
Goldberry (12)
Rosie (5)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (8)
Erendis (5)
Vána (6)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP

[Galadriel55]

--Vana
--Nerdanel
++Goldberry

Thuringwethil (10)
Goldberry (13)
Rosie (5)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (7)
Erendis (5)
Vána (5)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP

[the phantom]

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[Aganzir]

Double hurt Rosie
Heal Thuringwethil

Thuringwethil (11)
Goldberry (13)
Rosie (3)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (7)
Erendis (5)
Vána (5)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Thuringwethil
Double Hurt Erendis

Thuringwethil (12)
Goldberry (13)
Rosie (3)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (7)
Erendis (3)
Vána (5)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Hurt Erendis and Thuringwethil
Heal Vána

Thuringwethil (11)
Goldberry (13)
Rosie (3)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (7)
Erendis (2)
Vána (6)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP

[the phantom]

Kill Erendis
Heal Rosie

Thuringwethil (11)
Goldberry (13)
Rosie (4)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (7)
Vána (6)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
Erendis- drowned by TP

[Aganzir]

Heal Thuringwethil
Double hurt Rosie

Thuringwethil (12)
Goldberry (13)
Rosie (2)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (7)
Vána (6)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
Erendis- drowned by TP

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Thuringwethil
Double Hurt Vana

Thuringwethil (13)
Goldberry (13)
Rosie (2)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (7)
Vána (4)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
Erendis- drowned by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Double Hurt Thu
Heal Vána

Thuringwethil (11)
Goldberry (13)
Rosie (2)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (7)
Vána (5)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
Erendis- drowned by TP

[Galadriel55]

Should I do it? Nah. I won't ruin the pattern. Leave it to TP.

--Vana
--Thu
++Goldberry

Thuringwethil (10)
Goldberry (14)
Rosie (2)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (7)
Vána (4)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
Erendis- drowned by TP

[the phantom]

(I can't believe you left this for me, ha ha.)

Kill Rosie
Heal Vana

Thuringwethil (10)
Goldberry (14)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (7)
Vána (5)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
Erendis- drowned by TP
Rosie- finished by TP

[Galadriel55]

(I can't believe you left this for me, ha ha.)

Yeah, well. I thought that while it's cool to ruin a pattern (and to annoy you, of course :p), it's much cooler to have a pattern. So, anyhow...

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Goldberry
Hurt Vana Hurt Nerdanel

Thuringwethil (10)
Goldberry (15)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (6)
Vána (4)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
Erendis- drowned by TP
Rosie- finished by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Heal Vána
Double hurt Thuringwethil

Thuringwethil (8)
Goldberry (15)
Elwing (11)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (6)
Vána (5)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
Erendis- drowned by TP
Rosie- finished by TP

[Galadriel55]

++Goldberry
--Vana
--Elwing

Thuringwethil (8)
Goldberry (16)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (6)
Vána (4)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
Erendis- drowned by TP
Rosie- finished by TP

[satansaloser2005]

Double hurt Goldberry. Heal Thuringwethil. Shake fist at inability to access Downs from my cell and thus swipe that last kill from Phantom. :rolleyes:

Thuringwethil (9)
Goldberry (14)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (6)
Vána (4)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
Erendis- drowned by TP
Rosie- finished by TP

[Aganzir]

(I can't believe you left this for me, ha ha.)
Me neither.

Heal Thuringwethil
Double hurt Vána

Thuringwethil (10)
Goldberry (14)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (6)
Vána (2)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
Erendis- drowned by TP
Rosie- finished by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Double hurt Thu
Heal Vána

Thuringwethil (8)
Goldberry (14)
Elwing (10)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (10)
Nerdanel (6)
Vána (3)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
Erendis- drowned by TP
Rosie- finished by TP

[Galadriel55]

++Goldberry
--Elwing
--Aredhel

Thuringwethil (8)
Goldberry (15)
Elwing (9)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (9)
Nerdanel (6)
Vána (3)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
Erendis- drowned by TP
Rosie- finished by TP

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Heal Thuringwethil
Hurt Vana Hurt Goldberry

Thuringwethil (9)
Goldberry (14)
Elwing (9)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (9)
Nerdanel (6)
Vána (2)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
Erendis- drowned by TP
Rosie- finished by TP

[the phantom]

(Why does Goldberry have 14?)

Kill Vana
Heal Nerdanel

Thuringwethil (9)
Goldberry (14)
Elwing (9)
Ar-Zimraphel (9)
Aredhel (9)
Nerdanel (7)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
Erendis- drowned by TP
Rosie- finished by TP
Vana- weeded out by TP

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Ha-haa. I consider it quite an achievement that Vána managed to stay so long. Surprise. P.S. Phantom, should not "weeding out" be used for Rosie instead? Vána has nothing to do with weeds.

(Why does Goldberry have 14?)
Because Tuor just took one from her, shame on him ;)

On a serious note, yes, 14 is really big number, but then again, she definitely is the one to lead.

Double hurt Thuringwethil
Heal Ar-Zimraphel

Thuringwethil (7)
Goldberry (14)
Elwing (9)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (9)
Nerdanel (7)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
Erendis- drowned by TP
Rosie- finished by TP
Vana- weeded out by TP

[the phantom]

P.S. Phantom, should not "weeding out" be used for Rosie instead? Vána has nothing to do with weeds.
Doesn't she sing to flowers in a garden or some similar nonsense?
*types*
Okay, it says she hangs about flowering trees, and apparently she can make flowers bloom... So I'm counting it as fitting.
On a serious note, yes, 14 is really big number, but then again, she definitely is the one to lead.
Psh... She's the wife of a character that doesn't even belong in the legendarium. She's very nice and all, but her primary accomplishment seems to be hanging about Tom's house cooking and singing.

She's a Disney princess.

Okay, maybe she belongs ahead of Ar-Zimraphel, whose major life-events were losing the scepter and drowning.

Thuringwethil on the other hand flew about Tol In Gaurhoth and Angband, and presumably ate people.

Or Aredhel, who was an adventurer/hunter/etc. that the king of Gondolin couldn't do squat to restrain when she felt like hanging out with her cousins. Not to mention she sacrificed herself for her kid, which gets her points.

And then there's Nerdanel, who set the record for creating kids (and awesome ones at that), and was a great sculptor, and actually captured Feanor's fiery heart for a time, and was the only person that could influence him.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Psh... She's the wife of a character that doesn't even belong in the legendarium. She's very nice and all, but her primary accomplishment seems to be hanging about Tom's house cooking and singing.

She's a Disney princess.
Really? Reread the chapters in FotR where she appears. Tom is, I agree, a clumsy random crazy jumping madman, but Goldberry seems to control weather, water, when Frodo sees her, he starts speaking in verse without any preparation whatsoever. She also seems to speak reasonably when Tom blabbers nonsense. And degrading her to just "being a wife of..." is certainly not very nice, especially given that the husband in question is in fact a kidnapper, in her case.

Okay, maybe she belongs ahead of Ar-Zimraphel, whose major life-events were losing the scepter and drowning.
And being the victim of not very nice life-fate comparable to heroines of G.R.R. Martin's books and other ugly stuff.

Thuringwethil on the other hand flew about Tol In Gaurhoth and Angband, and presumably ate people.
First part only. "Ate people" is your own assumption, just as you say. And what is there about flying about T-I-G and Angband? Birds, Eagles, stuff, everything flew.

Or Aredhel, who was an adventurer/hunter/etc. that the king of Gondolin couldn't do squat to restrain when she felt like hanging out with her cousins. Not to mention she sacrificed herself for her kid, which gets her points.
Aredhel? Actually now that I think about it, why is she not out already? I think, if you say about Ar-Zimraphel that the only thing she managed to do was to lose the scepter and die, I think with Aredhel, it is kind of similar fate. Look also at that - forced to wed some abusive self-centered madman and then dies. But for some reason, I like Zimraphel more. Probably because she is human. And also has cooler name, but that's a detail.

And then there's Nerdanel, who set the record for creating kids (and awesome ones at that), and was a great sculptor, and actually captured Feanor's fiery heart for a time, and was the only person that could influence him.
Certainly. That one deserves the credit. But I still like some others more than her.

[Aganzir]

Heal Thuringwethil
Double hurt Elwing

Thuringwethil (8)
Goldberry (14)
Elwing (7)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (9)
Nerdanel (7)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
Erendis- drowned by TP
Rosie- finished by TP
Vana- weeded out by TP

Also, a reminder that when the next one dies, double hurts are no longer allowed.

[Galadriel55]

Also, a reminder that when the next one dies, double hurts are no longer allowed.

That's correct. Thanks for the reminder!

I completely agree with Legate about the different ladies, the main difference being that I'm not very much in the mood lately to be fascinated by Nerdanel at all (though once I could have rated her above Goldberry...).

While Goldberry and Tom are a bit of a sing-song couple, she seems to be such a radiant and joyful spirit of nature in that forest that even seven crazy sons don't match that. Just look at the effect on the hobbits when they are in her presence. Thuringwethil and Nerdanel are just "cool" in a very shallow sense. Vaire I like better because of her job of "recording history", and I'd place her not too far away from Goldberry, actually. Tar Miriel is ok because I just seem to like her (but I can't stand her other name *brrr*). Aredhel I've never really loved, but I suppose I'm sort of ok with her too. Same with Elwing. But Goldberry right now appeals much more to me because of that feeling radiating from her.

--Nerdanel, Thu
++Goldberry

Thuringwethil (7)
Goldberry (15)
Elwing (7)
Ar-Zimraphel (10)
Aredhel (9)
Nerdanel (6)
Vairë (11)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
Erendis- drowned by TP
Rosie- finished by TP
Vana- weeded out by TP