Admin Thread WW: LXXXIV Disaster by the Lake

[Boromir88]

The setting for this village will be in Dale, at Lake-town. The events of The Hobbit have passed, and the Lake Men are attempting to rebuild after Smaug's desolation, but it obviously attracts other unwanted guests as Dale rebuilds.

Also, anyone joining please choose an occupation (town crier, notable miscreant, armorer, guard...etc). The occupations will just help me write narrations. Since Dale is also a bit of a trade hub, you don't need to be from Dale. You may be a visiting dwarf or elf character.

Roles

Wolves (likely 3) - Wolves can PM at night and choose ONE villager they want to kill. Wolves win, when the number of innocents is equal or less than the wolves' number.

Cobbler (Moneybags) - The Mayor of Lake-town is up to trouble again as he counts as an innocent, but desires the wolves victory. The wolves promise rich reward for those who help, and the Mayor will never turn down handsome compensation for a bit of treachery. (I'm leaning towards Moneybags being a normal cobbler, but if somehow the number of players gets up to 15-16+, he'll become an cobbler-spy. One who can spy on a person each night and discover if the person is lupine or no.)

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Seer (Roac) - Normal seer, I just have role named as Roac for theme purposes. So instead of "dreaming" this seer will have a faithful raven to go spying ONE person each night. The raven then reports back to the Seer on that villager's role.

Ranger (Gwaihir) - Like the seer, Gwaihir is a normal Ranger (again for theme purposes :D). Selects one person to protect each night, for the wolves dare not cross paths with a great eagle. Can not protect the same person two nights in a row. And the Eagles being a proud race, Gwaihir can NOT protect him/herself.

Hunter (Bard) - A Logical Hunter. Bard's bow is true, so he can only take down a wolf. Bard may choose ONE person to hunt each night. He can NOT hunt the same person 2 nights in a row, and can NOT change the hunt during the day. If Bard is lynched/night killed and the person he hunted is a wolf, both die. If the person is innocent only Bard dies.

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Do the

++Bold

for voting and no retractable votes.

I believe that settles the roles and set up. We'll have time to discuss what start day and what DL works the best after Thanksgiving. Cheers everyone. Have a great feast (huh, the one time a year everyone can be a wolf. :rolleyes: ) :D

DL is 8pm EST (1am GMT)

VILLAGE

Boro (Mod)... Man of Dale, King's Secretary

sally... most prestigious musician and poet of Lake-town
Inziladun... local furrier
Greenie... undertaker
Pitchwife... shepherd
Lottie... candlestick maker
Kath... baker
Bom... cobbler
Nerwen... Town crier
Kitanna... cooper
Shasta...notable miscreant
Nogrod...wine-merchant from Dorwiniondil
Galadriel55...cook
Aganzir...baker's wife

[satansaloser2005]

In. So much in.

[Inziladun]

Count me in as the local "furrier", as Bilbo calls it.

[A Little Green]

Count me in as an undertaker, if you would. :p

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Count me in as the local "furrier", as Bilbo calls it.

Now that will give beforehand the answer to future questions, which undoubtedly shall arise, like: "I suspect sally and Zil, so who is furrier?"

As for my participation in the game, it looks fabulous, but I am not sure if my timetable will really put up with that, unless it started only post-11th December. Which I assume it won't.

[Galadriel55]

I won't sign up yet, because my situation is like Legate's. However, if you'll need another player to start, I'll be in as a cook. (I cook better than I cook, right? So don't lynch me!)

Now that will give beforehand the answer to future questions, which undoubtedly shall arise, like: "I suspect sally and Zil, so who is furrier?"

:D:D:D

[Pitchwife]

I'm in as... tadadada... a shepherd.

Count me in as the local "furrier", as Bilbo calls it.
I did that when I was younger (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=16873), and it was a bad move.

Also, the numbering of our games seems off. We were in the LXXXs a year ago, I think we should be in the XCs now.

[Inziladun]

I did that when I was younger (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=16873), and it was a bad move.

What do you mean? That was a great game! :D

[Galadriel55]

Also, the numbering of our games seems off. We were in the LXXXs a year ago, I think we should be in the XCs now.

Last game (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=17666) was the 88th, if I remember my Roman numerals correctly. So this one should be 89, not 84. That's LXXXIX, right?... :confused: Whatever.

I just had a thought: it would be uncannily fitting if Shasta and Boro switched games... :D

[Loslote]

I've been missing this, so I'll play. I may be a bit busier than I'd like, but I'll try to play as much as I can.

Oh, and I'll be a candle-stick maker. Because candle-sticks, man. :p

[Kath]

I'm going to sign up! Last game was so much fun and it was lovely being around all you mad lot again. My level of participation last game given the likely DL will probably be the same though. :)

[satansaloser2005]

Perfect. An opportunity to finally kill Kath. :p

[Bom Tombadillo]

I'm in, naturally! I will be the cobbler.

. . .

What!? What are you looking at me like that for? You have a problem with shoes?

(:D)

[Nerwen]

Hear ye, hear ye! I'll be the town crier!

Incidentally, Boro, have you given thought to how you'll write the narration in the event of a Seer or Ranger death? I mean, Roac and Gwaihir will have official occupations like everyone else, which would make the village look pretty unobservant....

[Boromir88]

Yes, it should be 89...whoops. Hey wait? How did I not get the 88th game? :p

Nerwen...hmm you can conceal a raven from townsfolk. An eagle would be slightly more difficult, but I was imagining something like a deus ex machina appearance of Gwaihir like the eagles appearances in TH and LOTR. Although, the only reason I thought of Roac/Gwaihir was to fit with the Lake-town theme. Afterall, they are just the standard seer/ranger role, so it'll probably make more sense just to leave it as seer/ranger.

[Kath]

Argh roles ... I'll be a baker.

[satansaloser2005]

I shall be the town's most prestigious musician and poet....just to give Boro a headache. :Merisu:

[Nerwen]

Nerwen...hmm you can conceal a raven from townsfolk. An eagle would be slightly more difficult, but I was imagining something like a deus ex machina appearance of Gwaihir like the eagles appearances in TH and LOTR.
I know... I meant it might be a bit, well, odd, if the village baker or whatever turned out to be a bird– and no-one had noticed. Maybe you could make them shapeshifters?

*is lynched by outraged purists*

[Kitanna]

I'd like to play. It doesn't look like a DL has been decided... (crosses fingers and hopes for a -6GMT friendly DL) as for village role...cooper. Want a barrel? I got you covered.

[Bom Tombadillo]

*ahem* The description of the role does state that the Seer has a faithful pet raven, not that he is one. So, no complete defilement of canon is necessary.

[Nerwen]

*ahem* The description of the role does state that the Seer has a faithful pet raven, not that he is one. So, no complete defilement of canon is necessary.
Ah, I hadn't noticed that. But Gwaihir's still a problem, though, I think.

[Galadriel55]

Ah, I hadn't noticed that. But Gwaihir's still a problem, though, I think.

How about, both birds have some bond of loyalty with one person (each) from the village, and they do things there (protecting or seering) only at the person's bidding? Once the person is dead, they will not feel obligated to stay in the city another day...

So you won't have a baker that's an Eagle, but you'd have a baker who knows an Eagle that is willing to do a task for him/her...

[Galadriel55]

And I just realised that this in not the 89th game, nor the 84th. There was a mess because Foley's game was delayed.

Rikae's game: LXXXVI
Foley's game (put on hold): LXXXVII
Sally's game: LXXXVIII
Zil's game: LXXXIX
Lottie's game: XC
***Foley's game finally played***

Shasta's game was supposed to be XCI, but looking at Foley's game he put LXXXVIII.

Therefore this game should be XCII. Pitch was right: we are in the XCs.

[Boromir88]

G55...brilliant. You realize now after supplying an answer, you have to play?

I'll poke some people, others join in the poking, because I think we'll be good to start with another 2-3 sign ups. And it'll give Lommy a few days to get back to me on if she's confirmed to play.

What's a good/sensible DL? I'm pretty flexible as long as it's after 4 pm EST. But I'd like it to be before midnight.

[Bom Tombadillo]

I'd prefer around 5 pm EST, which ensures I have some time late in the Day to make a final decision. Later is even better.

[Inziladun]

DL is not an overly important issue for me, though 1600-2000 EST would probably be optimal.

[Pitchwife]

1600-1800 EST (=2100-2300 GMT, right?) would be my personal sweet spot, but I can live with having to vote a few hours early.

[satansaloser2005]

My dream DL is about 6 EST. :)

[Galadriel55]

G55...brilliant. You realize now after supplying an answer, you have to play?

But only if I get the super-secret werebear role. :Merisu:

Joking aside, I will possibly join if the game doesn't start before this weekend. 1000 EST is my preferred DL, but it's not a big deal if it's earlier. And I'm still not sure if I can play, so just ignore the DL comment. :)

[A Little Green]

My dream DL? What Pitch said.

But really, I'm used to voting, like, eight hours before DL, so I'm fine with anything. :D

[Kitanna]

My dream DL is 7 CST. Then I have a chance to vote around the DL instead of hours early, but most DLs after 4 EST work because I can play for a few hours after work.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Shall I be a notable miscreant, then? I had no idea this was going on :rolleyes:.

[Boromir88]

Woo! Shasta! :D

And it looks like 7 or 8 pm EST would fit the best? That will still be getting a bit late for people overseas, but not so late that it's a hastle in having to always vote super early.

So, let's make it 8pm EST(1am GMT).

[Bom Tombadillo]

My computer's internet access just went kaput, so if the game starts before it gets fixed, my participation will be limited and poorly spelled (ARGH TINY KEYS). :mad: Fortunately I think that will be soon (getting it fixed that is).

[Nerwen]

If this starts before the weekend, I might have to drop out. I'll be down at my parents' place again ( another "working holiday"!), and there's no internet connection.

[Nogrod]

Okay... let's say I'm in again.

I've had a horrendous fall but I'll try to clear some room for playing after what feels like an eternity (I think I have last visited the 'Downs like three months ago or something...).

I'm going to be relatively busy the next week and the DL is such that I'll need to vote early with other Europeans, but on top of that, well, why not? :)

So excuse me my "lesser than normal" participation (which probably doesn't mean I'm the quietest player around :p) for the first Days - if I'm alive still the next week I should be able to take more active role.

As to a role... hmm... I'll be a wine-merchant from Dorwinion (that being allowed).

[Boromir88]

As to a role... hmm... I'll be a wine-merchant from Dorwinion (that being allowed).

Of course, haha, you read my mind, because I was thinking Lake-town really could use a famous Dorwinion wine-o. :D

Nerwen, we likely won't be starting until the weekend at least, so you should be ok. Same with Bom, get your interweb pixies fixed please. :p

[Bom Tombadillo]

Looks like I'll be able to stay near another computer with a working internet connection until mine does get fixed. So, no worries.

Also, yay Nogrod! Now I have someone to suspect Day 1. (NEVAR FORGET (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=654265&postcount=264))

[Pitchwife]

Also, yay Nogrod!
Seconded! It's been ages.

I'm going to be relatively busy the next week and the DL is such that I'll need to vote early with other Europeans, but on top of that, well, why not?
Don't worry, we have sally the sleep police to take care of you.;):)

[Boromir88]

At the earliest Sunday we'll start. That's when I'll hear back from Lommy and a few others. I don't want to keep delaying too long, so at the latest we'll get started Monday and go with whatever the number is. It's looking like 12 for sure, and G55 if you're good to go after this weekend that would be great?

At 12-13 I'll take out the cobbler, even though I never like parting with that role. Or maybe I can devise some role for Moneybags that may possibly be a benefit to the village. We'll see. But at 14+ I think we'll be ok to keep the Mayor as a standard cobbler.

[A Little Green]

So excuse me my "lesser than normal" participationThat's what you always say... ;)
At 12-13 I'll take out the cobbler, even though I never like parting with that role. Or maybe I can devise some role for Moneybags that may possibly be a benefit to the village. We'll see. But at 14+ I think we'll be ok to keep the Mayor as a standard cobbler.Please keep the cobbler! Way too long since I last saw one.

[Nogrod]

That's what you always say... ;)Looking at my next week I'm afraid i mean what I say this time, but well, we'll see.

@Bom: Oh, the memories... :rolleyes:

Yeah, nice to be back for a long time with such a nice gang of bloodthirsty mates...

[Galadriel55]

All right, I'm in. But I might not be able to post enough or consitnently.

I really want to see a cobbler in action.

[Aganzir]

Screw school & work. I'm in.

I'm the baker's wife.

Addendum: Lommy says she's sorry but she won't have the time to play.

[Boromir88]

Yay Agan! :D But poor Lommy. :(

I'll be ready to start Night 1 at the DL (8pm EST) tonight. Roles will be sent out sometime around that time.

I usually like keeping at least as many villagers as wolves + gifteds, and that's why I said I was thinking about taking out the cobbler. But since several have expressed interest to have a cobbler village, Moneybags will stay. He'll be the normal cobbler, who does not (and can not) find out the wolf pack, but still desires their victory. (and the Mayor will count in the innocent tally).

[Galadriel55]

I'm the baker's wife.

Oh really (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=664122&postcount=16)? :Merisu::p:D

[Aganzir]

Oh really (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showpost.php?p=664122&postcount=16)?
Yes, really (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/292441_10150280631869303_688229302_7496881_3840285 _n.jpg). :Merisu::p:D

[Galadriel55]

Yes, really (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/292441_10150280631869303_688229302_7496881_3840285 _n.jpg).

Know that you just made my day. :D

(is that from the mini-Britmoot?)

[Aganzir]

Know that you just made my day. :D

(is that from the mini-Britmoot?)
Happy to be of service. ;) It's from the Finlandmoot actually - I think there are a couple of pictures of Kath and me from Friday but I don't have them.

[Galadriel55]

A question to Boro (or anyone that knows): what happens if the Ranger is protecting a wolf that the hunter hunts? Say, the hunter is killed at night and he and the Ranger have the same target? It's not that likely to happen, but what if?

[Boromir88]

A question to Boro (or anyone that knows): what happens if the Ranger is protecting a wolf that the hunter hunts? Say, the hunter is killed at night and he and the Ranger have the same target? It's not that likely to happen, but what if?

I believe that has happened a few times before. My thinking is still both the hunter and wolf would die. For the reason the purposes of he Ranger's role is to stop wolf kills, not a scenario where the hunter dies, but takes a wolf with him/her. Make sense?

Agan, you make me smile...lots o'smiles. :D

[Boromir88]

Game thread is up. Narration will be filled in soon, but I'm sending out the roles now.

Edit: All the roles are out.

[Inziladun]

Gee, what a surprise. :rolleyes:

However wolves, you're still not cool (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-_ck7AHKKE) enough. ;)

[satansaloser2005]

Erm....whoops. Sorry, kids. Last night was super busy and I didn't have my laptop. :/

[Boromir88]

Also I've added your in the narration to Inzil's death. :p

[Nerwen]

Boro– really, really sorry about the non-vote. My schedule the last few days has not been very WW-friendly. I'll do better toMorrow, promise.:Merisu:

[Kitanna]

Thanks everyone for understanding. My fiancé got some rather terrible news (nothing life threatening and no one died) but I needed to spend the evening with him. I'll be back and more active on Day 3.

[Galadriel55]

I meant to participate more. Cursed Mordor traffic delay. :mad: And what's worse - Saturday looks like it will be more busy that I anticipated. :( I will try to be here as much as I can. You know normally you can't shut me up in WW. ;) I will pop in with a comment or two at least before I vote toMorrow.

[Bom Tombadillo]

Just now realized I totally forgot to vote (or post much of anything, for that matter) yesterday/Day. :o :( Please don't kill me/mutilate me too badly.

[Boromir88]

No worries about it, things come up and unexpected stuff happens. As long as you two remember to vote Day 3, no harm done.

I actually forgot to make any mod-firing note, completely slipped my mind when planning the game. So, I think it's only fair to everyone to make it as I said in the game thread.

I think since I didn't even have any policy in the Admin thread it would only be fair that starting today...if anyone doesn't vote for 2 consecutive days (barring some convincing argument that the person makes me aware of) then you'll be modfired. Starting today, so those who didn't vote on Day 1, it won't count against them. But 2 consecutive days of not voting from this point on, is a modfire.

[Bom Tombadillo]

I also swear there are actually other roles in this village...it's not my dream game of everyone's an ordo and it's last one standing :-p

And I swear you're lying. :p

As usual when I die, I'm resisting the urge to rant about it because . . . well, I'm dead. Not supposed to disclose anything game-related. :( Expect the floodgates to open after the game ends, though.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Wolves don't get to nom on Shasta, sorry. :D

[satansaloser2005]

Please keep the cobbler! Way too long since I last saw one.

In retrospect, this is quite hilarious. ^_^