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Haramu
02-26-2013, 02:31 PM
they did not hate dwarves especially, no more than they hated everybody and everything, and partcularly the orderly and prosperous; in some parts wicked dwarves had even made alliances with them

Who were these wicked dwarves Mr. Tolkien was mentioning. I wonder what they did and how they became wicked dwarves :Merisu:

Mithalwen
02-26-2013, 02:43 PM
Hi Haramu, are you refering to the goblins in the Hobbit? It might refer to the Petty Dwarves who were banished from ancient dwarf cities for unknown reasons. Or the dwarves in the Book of Lost Tales who were evil and used orc mercenaries.

Aganzir
02-26-2013, 03:10 PM
Alas, it seems probable that (as Men did later) the Dwarves of the far eastern mansions (and some of the neared ones?) came under the shadow of Morgoth and turned to evil.
Tolkien's note on Of Dwarves And Men, The Peoples of Middle-earth

Also in some writings the Noldor believed the dwarves would smith to the highest bidder, including Morgoth.

Haramu
02-26-2013, 03:11 PM
Hello there Mithalwen ;). Yes I was refering to the dwarves in the book 'The Hobbit'. I'm so glad you've cleared it up for me a bit and gave me some info about who they were and where they came from. Thank you

Kuruharan
02-27-2013, 09:36 AM
Hi Haramu,

Here (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=13044) is a link to a thread that discusses evil dwarves at some length.