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Burzdol
04-08-2003, 02:23 PM
I have had questions pop up from my friends about this. Were there any major woman warriors? I said yes, probably. They aren't as talked about as men. I don't think there were as many, so they weren't as talked about, but what about the ones that do feats that can out do mens. They also asked what they did if they did something. This question also popped up in my English calss at scholl. What are your ideas?

~Burzdol~

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GaladrieloftheOlden
04-08-2003, 02:32 PM
Eowyn. Maybe Yavanna?

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Vardamar
04-08-2003, 02:40 PM
Here (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=002865)

Hope this helps

Lalaith
04-08-2003, 02:43 PM
Burzdol, I'm assuming you mean female warriors in Tolkien rather than just generally!
In the First Age, The People of Haleth were one of the three houses of men that were elf-friends. (The others were the house of Beor and the house of Hador). Haleth was a tough cookie, she led her people in battle and elsewhere, and other women of that house also bore arms.
I also think Beren's mother, Emeldir the Man-Hearted, may have done some fighting.
In the notorious Females in the Fellowship thread, one of our scholars mentioned that in some versions Tolkien had Idril Celebrindal, daughter of Turgon, bearing arms during the fall of Gondolin.
And Galadriel has pointed out, there is of course Eowyn. I don't know about Yavanna, I'd never heard that but maybe others can elaborate.

Helkahothion
04-08-2003, 03:04 PM
I don't know if your friends are very into Tolkien, but in Lotr you have Eowin and Arwen. And let's not forget Galadriel. You don't want to be facing the wrong side of them.

Legolas is considered by some a woman smilies/evil.gif
But not by me. He is the coolest dude ever according to my compinion.

Greetings,

Anuion
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GaladrieloftheOlden
04-08-2003, 03:12 PM
Arwen and Galadriel weren't shieldmaidens. smilies/tongue.gif
As for Yavanna...
With him was Yavanna, Earth-queen, and she had hunted with the Gods and was spent; but Vana and Nessa wept as maidens still beside the founts of gold Kulullin. From the Book of Lost Tales I, The Tale of the Sun and Moon.

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Son of Fire
04-08-2003, 03:30 PM
Yeh, there were those fighters and also the druedain had their women fihgt too. The dwarf women only did at great need, and i dunno about the others.

The Saucepan Man
04-08-2003, 05:20 PM
I don't know about Yavanna, I'd never heard that but maybe others can elaborate.

Quite possibly she and the other female Valar fought in the two battles fought between the Valar and Melkor: the War of Powers and the War of Wrath. I can certainly see Varda fighting amongst the host of the Valar.

Arestelwen
04-09-2003, 09:49 PM
There were many women who were warriors, but they were never as praised as men.... see the fellowship, for example,they were all men. But you can't forget that when Tolkien wrote LotR, women didn't do so much in terms of war....... What I mean is that were not so recognized as they should have been.

I think women in ME could have been warriors, or knew how, but they prefered to do other things.... Luthien, Galadriel, and somany others did great things without handling the sword or the bow..