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dragongirlG
04-07-2002, 10:39 AM
I'm sorry if this in another thread or something, but I'm wondering...Gandalf is a Maia, right? In The Silmarillion it says Olorin was a Maia, and he took the shapes of Elves sometimes. Isn't Olorin the same as Gandalf? But he's also one of the Istari. How is that possible? I haven't finished The Sil yet, but could someone please help me? Thanks.

Gayalondiel
04-07-2002, 11:20 AM
Olorin is gandalf, and he is a Maia. the Istari were 5 maiar who were sent to middle-earth by the valar to counter the shadow growing (then) in mirkwood. so gandalf is a maia selected to be one of the istari. the same is true of saruman, radagast and the two blue wizards (the names escape me). for a fulller and more legible account (i'm still 1/2 asleep), look in unfinished tales, theres a section on the istari smilies/smile.gif
Hope that helped instead of confusing! smilies/biggrin.gif

VanimaEdhel
04-07-2002, 03:49 PM
Gayalondiel: Grrr: thanks for taking the question! LOL: I was all psyched to sound intelligent, then I see that you have answered the question. Oh well: yes, Gayalondiel is correct and, because I have not read UT yet, I cannot tell the other two wizards' names. I only know of them through mention in here and brief mention in other Tolkien books I have read.

And, Gayalondiel: most people in here cannot remember the other Istari's names, so it is okay. I have come across many mentionings on here of, "Well, yes, there were two others and there names were...yeah...", then the next one is something like, "I know! I forgot the other names!". So: I guess someone will reply to this and tell me the names *please do smilies/rolleyes.gif !*, so: you guys will probably get your names!

Lindolirian
04-07-2002, 08:32 PM
The other two wizards were the Blue Wizards, Alatar and Pallando. They just kinda went off onto the east past Rhun and were never heard of again. It was theorized that one )or both) might have be "seduced by the Dark Side of the Force" i mean, uh, went over to Sauron's side like Saruman or were killed by Sauron. other than that there is nuthin about them....

Gayalondiel
04-08-2002, 04:13 PM
LOL VanimaEdhel, sorry for taking the question but the istari are about the only thing intelligent about. everything else leaves me so confused... smilies/confused.gif