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Isilya
09-22-2002, 06:27 PM
I was watching The Matrix tonight, and halfway through the movie, I happened to notice something. In a way, The Matrix is very similar to the tale of Maeglin, Idril Celebrindal, Turgon, Morgoth, and Tuor.

Here's how it goes: Maeglin (Cypher or Joe Pantoliano) is deeply, almost insanly in love with Idril Celebrindal (Trinity or Carrie-Anne Moss). However, she does not return his feelings, and he becomes hateful, but is still believed to be a good guy. Tuor (Neo or Keanu Reeves) shows up on the scene, falls in love with and weds Idril. Maeglin, now furious, betrays Turgon (Morpheus or Laurence Fishburne) and his city (sort of) to Morgoth (Agent Smith).

I found this kinda interesting. Can anyone think of other movies that fit a LOTR or Sil tale?
Arwen Imladris
09-22-2002, 06:48 PM
Hmm, I think that that one is a bit of a stretch. matrix like the sil? I think that they are very different. Sorry I can't think of anything else that is like the sil.
Isilya
09-22-2002, 06:49 PM
I know it's a bit of a stretch, but that's what it reminded me of, that's all!
lathspell
09-26-2002, 09:42 AM
Still there is a link, but no more than a link. Well, I kinda makes me wonder how you ever thought of the Sil during the Matrix and the story, but ok... let's not be bothered by that smilies/wink.gif

greetings,
lathspell
Isilya
09-26-2002, 02:51 PM
Now, see, you have to have gone through the kind of treatment I've gone through to think of that: three electro shock therapy sessions, one hell of a lot of painkillers.... smilies/biggrin.gif
Beren87
09-26-2002, 07:05 PM
No, after rereading and watching, they really are quite the same. It is kind of a classic plotline though, so don't be too suprised.
Isilya
09-26-2002, 07:54 PM
It probably is classic, but I haven't read it anywhere else.
Beren87
09-27-2002, 06:16 PM
C'mon, traitor made at girl who doesn't love him sells his soul and native land to get her. I believe Gladiator had such a plot. The emperor wanted his sister, and etc..
Isilya
09-27-2002, 07:41 PM
You know, I did see that movie, come to think of it, just not all, only pieces. It was probably because I had just finished the Sil right before I watched the movie, that's most likely why I thought of it.
Eol
09-27-2002, 08:07 PM
Of course it is classic, you see it in greek plays all the time, especially in tragedies. You can also see in some of Shakespeare's plays.

The incest thing, well that is nothing new.
Isilya
09-27-2002, 08:30 PM
Incest: Keeping the Southern U.S. population growing since 1802. smilies/wink.gif