A little tought

[Helkahothion]

Hi everybody,

I just had this crazy idea. If Eru has created Middle Earth. Wouldn't that make J.R.R. Tolkien Eru? Give me your thoughts.

Greetings,

Anuion
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[Inderjit Sanghera]

I doubt it. Eru was the creator of the actual place, Tolkien was just the interpreter of the mythology.

[Calavanya]

Tolkien had said that writing the LOTR and inventing the Middle Earth made him feel like he was the God, but he was merely interpreting God's work, there still had to be God to create all that. I don't really know what I believe in, but Tolkien surely read his Bible examining it thoroughly. Although, there are other elements basen on Old German and Norse mythology. He just made an asumption: "What if God had created it this way?". I think ...

[Tenduriel]

and the funny thing is: when Tolkien wrote his books, he always did it from the Hobbits' point of view. I think, if you would compare him to a character, he'd rather be Bilbo. what do you think?

[Manquesseiel]

I agree. J.R.R couldn't be "God", he's more like Bilbo or maybe even Gandalf. After all, he's wise and he knows how best to act in each situation. He tries to help them all along the way & he does a very good job of it too. I'd say J.R.R is definity Gandalf. How couldn't he be?

[Helkahothion]

HAHAHAHAHA,

Picture that, Tolkien a Maya. That would be awesome. That way he would lifed to see the movies. Do you think he liked them. I don't. He always hated Illustrations in his books, so he would defenetly hate the film. But hey on the other hand, 30 years can do a lot to a person. What do you think?

Greetings,

Anuion
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[lathspell]

Tolkien just read the Red Book of the Westmarch and other ancient scrolls and off them made new books smilies/wink.gif. He was an outsider.

[Helkahothion]

Hee Lathspel,

YAY finaly someone from Holland. I tought I was alone. Thank god you are here. But be carfule what you say arround here about Tolkien. Het is hetzlfde als vloeken in de kerk. HAHAHAHAHAHA. Wich part are you from anyway?

Greetings,

Anuion

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[ February 09, 2003: Message edited by: Estelyn Telcontar ]
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[Neferchoirwen]

I think that the Eru part in Tolkien is his ability to create: stories and even his own myths, that is.

Uniting the two ideas of Eru and the Bilbo point of view, it may be said that Eru has a certain bias towards the Hobbits, as Tolkien has in his creation of ME, though we do not know for sure where Hobbits go after they die.

Well, we may know this for sure: That Eru loves everything bright and beautiful smilies/wink.gif

[Tenduriel]

it is said by some (negativistic) people that Tolkiens biggest fascination was death. of course I do not believe that, but you never know, do you?

[Reyna Evergreen]

Fascination of death? Hardly, it was an understanding of death and how to characterize it.

As to Tolkien being Eru, I think that he just wrote as if he were accounting an actual event as an outsider, as lathspell said. Even if he said that when he was creating his world he felt like he was God, the was it's written is in account, not narrative.

[ February 09, 2003: Message edited by: Reyna Evergreen ]

[Helkahothion]

Well you got a point there,

I don't think that Tolkien had a fascination about death. Why else would he make immortals?

Greetings,

Anuion
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[Neferchoirwen]

A fascination with death, eh. Hmmm *scrathches chin* Well, as "Eru" to his own works, he gave the elves immortality and to humans death, which is a gift. It may say something, but may hardly justify the claim.

I agree with what Reyna Evergreen says about the perspective. I was talking about Tolkien the writer when I said that he was "Eru" to his creations.