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Morgoth Bauglir
06-09-2003, 03:19 PM
Its been so long since ive read them, so i have another question smilies/biggrin.gif and my brother stole all the books

Gandalf was a maiar, but which Valar did he serve?I forget!

Phoenix
06-09-2003, 03:53 PM
I know this one, I know who it is, but I just can't seem to remember what his name is. He is the head god, so to speak the brother of Melkor, so if you can remember who that is, he was the head god.

Lalaith
06-09-2003, 04:06 PM
The Encyclopaedia of Arda says he served Manwe (the 'head god' of whom you speak) and his spouse Varda.
But perhaps I read somewhere that he was a Maia of Lorien (that is, the home of the god of dreams in Valinor)

Meela
06-09-2003, 05:42 PM
He was a Maia of Manwe, but a pupil of Nienna (?). Well, a pupil of one of the Valar other than Manwe.

Yavanna228
06-09-2003, 05:52 PM
Yes indeed, Meela, he was taught pity and patience by Nienna although he lived in Lorien. And Morgoth Bauglir, I'm sure you're not a failure, not by a long shot. smilies/smile.gif
Peace

[ June 09, 2003: Message edited by: Yavanna228 ]

Phoenix
06-09-2003, 06:20 PM
Oh yeah, it waaaaaas Manwe. I don't happen to own a copy of The Silmarillion, and that I am working on, so forgive me.

Morgoth Bauglir
06-09-2003, 07:52 PM
ok good i thought so!Im still a failure though lol!I remembered that part where manwe tells him to go and help defeat sauron. and then he pussies out and tells manwe hes scared and too weak smilies/biggrin.gif and then manwe says thats all the more reason to go

thanks everyone!

Aragost
06-11-2003, 01:45 PM
Pupil Of Nienna (?)

Didn't Yavanna teach him discipline

Aragost
06-11-2003, 01:49 PM
Maybe I'm Wrong

Beren87
06-12-2003, 12:55 PM
There are here also some rough tables relating the names of the Istari to the names of the Valar: Olorin to Manwë and Varda, Curumo to Aulë, Aiwendil to Yavanna, Alatar to Oromë, and Pallando also to Oromë

So Gandalf was a Maiar of Manwë, of a sort anyway. He was taught much by Nienna, including discipline.

Yavanna did not interact with Olorin all that much. Aiwendil was the pupil of Yavanna.

[ June 12, 2003: Message edited by: Beren87 ]

Sophia the Thunder Mistress
06-12-2003, 10:13 PM
So Gandalf was a Maiar of Manwë, of a sort anyway.

Maia of Manwë, honestly.

[ June 13, 2003: Message edited by: Sophia the Thunder Mistress ]

Beren87
06-13-2003, 11:20 AM
Maia of Manwë, honestly.

Hey, Gandalf may have Multiple-Personality Disorder. He could be more than one person.

Thanks smilies/tongue.gif