Elvish Healing

[Meela]

i dont know how accurate the film is to the book, but in the film i noticed how both Arwen and Elrond, when healing Frodo or whatever, said
"Lasto beth nin. Tolo dan nan galad."

is this the extent of elvish healing - one phrase? or do they do or say other things?

[avarrogion]

Well i think thats juz part of the Elvish healing phrase...to tell you the truth i myself was wondeing the same question! So can anyone outhere to clarify this pls?
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[Selmo]

I'm just a humble hobbit, not an Elven scholar, so I can't tell you what the phrase means. I'm sure that it isn't a healing spell; the power of the Elves lay within themselves, not in spells and incantations.

Perhaps the phrase was spoken to help the healer to concentrate his/her mind.

[arelendil]

Hello! ahhh something i can answer it means "hear my voice, come back to the light!" also used as part of the water spell but changed, "Lasto beth daer" hear the Great word! and i suppose they're just calling frodo from the wraith land or what ever!

[Raefindel]

Hmm... Interesting.

When Aragorn was healing Faramir, Eowyn and Merry in the Houses of Healing he also speaks to the injured, so it seems to be a "healer" thing not and "Elven-healer" thing, although, Aragorn was trained by Elrond.

[Meela]

Faramir got injured???? *races to his side

[Kalimac]

It sounds like they're using a rather early-medieval approach, actually; medicine plus prayers. That happened a quite a bit several thousand years ago; you'd be given, say, larkspur paste or some other herb for what ailed you, and additionally you were told to say three prayers daily (or whichever amount) to a certain deity - or the one deity - who would help you out. They thought it concentrated the feeling, and I can't say as they were wrong smilies/wink.gif.

[Guinevere]

Well, in the book things don`t go as fast as in the movie!
On Weathertop, Frodo is not stabbed in the breast, but in his left shoulder,( because he throws himself forward to stab at the Nazgûl`s legs). A splinter of the morgul-knife breaks off and stays in Frodos shoulder. Only after a long, wearisome journey of 17 days(!), his condition slowly deteriorating, he reaches Elronds house.
And Elrond has obviously some skill as a surgeon, for he removes the splinter which was deeply buried and had been working inwards. Anyhow, Arwen had nothing to do with it in the book!

[Arwen Imladris]

Here is what he says in the movie:

Lasto beth nin. Tolo dan nan galad.

Which means: Hear my voice, come back to the light.

[Bill Ferny]

It sounds like they're using a rather early-medieval approach, actually; medicine plus prayers.

This is also a modern approach as well. Recently the health care profession has become aware of the healing power of the patient's state of mind. Thank goodness, or otherwise, I wouldn’t have a job!

I like the line because on the road to healing the patient’s will to get well is just as important as any medical procedure.