A silly little poll, but... favourite Noldorin king?

[Altariel]

So? Finwe, Feanor, Fingolfin, Fingon, Turgon or Gil-galad? ^__^;

I love me some Feanor. For some inexplicable reason, he's also one of my favourite characters.

"Oh no! What do I do?"

"Chant!"

"I am not a fangirl. I am not a fangirl. I am not a fangirl. I am not---aah, screw it, c'mere, Feanor, I'll comfort you!"

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I would say Fingolfin or Fingon. They were both rather alike.

[Phervasaion]

I always liked Fingolfin because he decided to take on Morgoth one on one.

[Altariel]

Yeah, Fingolfin's my next-favourite. ^^

[Failivrin]

Oh i just really like most of them actually!

Until yesterday, Fingolfin was my clear favourite. As a matter of fact, I still probably love him the best. I just think he was wonderful; not horrible (Feanor) and not wimpy (Finarfin). Yes, yes i know Finarfin wasn't wimpy but i always liked the way Fingolfin didn't want to leave Valinor but he went because his people were.

And then, today, i got this sudden urge to like Feanor. The fiery spirit appeals to me. However, i just have to think about the number of Fingolfin's host he killed and that urge goes smilies/mad.gif

And of course how could we forget Felagund? I like how he took on the werewolf. I like how he honoured his oath and i love how Felagund was originally a jesting nickname smilies/tongue.gif .

Overall possibly Fingolfin.

[Finwe]

My favorite High King would have to be...... ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif


Now, honestly, could you expect any other answer? smilies/wink.gif

[Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar]

Fingolfin. For the sole reason that i like the discription of his armor when he goes to fight morgoth.

[NightKnight]

My favorite would be Fingolfin or Fingon. smilies/smile.gif

[Orominuialwen]

Fingolfin, probably. I would be tickled to death if I said otherwise. Why, you ask. My little brother's name here is High King Fingolfin, so he is obviously a fan. But Finrod is a close second with Fingon coming in third.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I think the topic starter meant 'High King of the Noldor', which would rule out Finrod Felagund.

That's why I did not say Finrod, because he is probably my favourite character in the Silmarillion.

[Luthien_ Tinuviel]

Fingolfin, definately. For his courage and all. Even though Finrod Felagund, wasn't a High King, he comes second on my list. And would come first, but... he doesn't fit the category.

[Lhunardawen]

It would have to be Fingolfin. Who would not like an Elf who was likened to a Vala (Oromë, when he attacked Morgoth)? I almost even cried when he died... smilies/frown.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

Also, Gil-galad. He's like Fingolfin, in a smaller scale. (He attacked Sauron, though he definitely wasn't alone then. smilies/smile.gif )

[Thorongil]

I like Finwe too. Fingolfin wasn't the only one with guts. When Morgoth Came to Formenos, he stood alone before him while everyone ran. Not many would do that!

[Emma Woodhouse]

Finrod, Finrod, Finrod. No wait, he doesn´t work out, not being a high king and all. Man, I really like him...

Okay, High Kings then...Fingolfin! He counts, right? I think he was very wise and very very brave, and it´s not like it was a piece of cake to lead your people over ice. That was totally admireable.

[lore_master]

my favorite is Finwe, he probably has to be one of the bravest elves. after all, he went to Valinor when they caled the elven leaders to go, and he didnt flee foprm Melkor when he came to Finwe's house. he also fought Melkor, but sadly died during the process. so he is favorite, also he became the first high king, which probably took some skill to become.

[Northman]

I like fingolfin. But i think finarfin is the best noldor cause its seems like he was the only one with any sense

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[lore_master]

what sense did finarfin have that any other elf, besides, feanor and all of his kids, have?

[Northman]

finarfin realized that it would be best to go seek pardon rather than die fighting morgoth

[Morgul Queen]

*sighs* My Favourite character is Celebrimbor, who, unfortunatly, wasn't High-King (Damn you, Maedhros. Damn you!). So that makes my second favourite my favourite... FEANOR!!

How can you *not* love the guy? He's stubborn, has family problems, willful, has a temper, in other words He's not seemingly perfect like most of the Elves in the Silm, and he was corrupted be Morgoth, not born stupid. And he was High-King, even if it was only for a few months.

[morchaint]

High King? Mine would have to be Fingolfin, even though I like Finarfin...

Fingolfin was cool, taking on Morgoth. I like Finarfin because he chose to beg pardon and he kept his group of Elves from a lot of pain and bloodshed.

[Everdawn]

I like Fëanor as well, i was about to say "well im going to be an individual and say Fëanor" but thank goodnes there is another.

I just think the guy was cool, plus, he made pretty jewels. And for his sons, i liked Celegorm as well, even though he tried to capture Luthien. The Fëanor's are ok in my book.

[Arothir]

What, only High Kings?! I'd say Maedros, he definitely held together the Noldor high atop the peaks of Thangorodrim, just kidding. Finwe definitely. He doesn't make bad decisions really. Of course Arothir will always be my favorite king, and his realm of Nargothrond my favorite kingdom.

[Failivrin]

i don't see how Finarfin had sense that no other Elf had. I personally find it far more admirable that Fingolfin wished to go back, or atleast was unwilling to leave, but felt that his duty to the Noldor was so great that he would go with them, whatever their decision.

My mind has been mad up though, definitely Fingolfin. He was the most courageous and brave and his stand against Morgoth was beautiful. To not have the orcs speak of that battle was a truly great feat.

[The Dark Elf]

Gil-Galad rules!

[Finwe]

I always thought that Finarfin was a pansy who didn't want to chip his gorgeous little manicure. *muttermutterselloutmuttermutter*

Honestly, Fëanor is my absolute favorite. True, he was headstrong and impulsive, but that made him who he was. He wasn't afraid of the Valar like most of the other Elves. He wasn't afraid to speak his mind, even when he was wrong.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

And of course how could we forget Felagund?

Of course, who could. As for his unknown son...

Now, honestly, could you expect any other answer? ;)

No, Finwe. It was really obvious. ;)

What about Turgon, people? It took a lot of courage to accept your wrongs(he thought Gondolin to be invincible) and "sink with your ship." But then again, he did hide for most of the Silm, and has virtually done nothing. :(

I would say Fingolfin.

[Altariel]

Ah, Finwe. Morgul Queen and Everdawn... I see I have three kindred spirits!

Did I mention that I absolutely love Feanor? ^_^

I still liked Gil-galad, Finwe and FIngolfin, too... and I nearly cried when Fingolfin died...

But I love Feanor's passion and charisma.

[Failivrin]

Oh yes, Turgon. I really do like Turgon a lot. He would possibly be about my 4th favourite (haven't thought out a list, sorry!). I really liked the bit where he came and raised a cairn over Fingolfin. I dunno why, it just seemed beautiful. But i also like im because he admitted he was wrong and because of how accepting he was of Tuor when he first came to Gondolin.

[Gil-Galad]

i like my self and turgon, since i think turgon was the wiset, at some times (i would've kept hurin in gondolin or don't send alot of men to battle)

[Morgul Queen]

All hail the Feanor Worshipers. I do agree, he has an amazing charisma....just like Hitler! waidamintickhere....

oh, and Gil-Galad! Love the Avatar smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

[Northman]

yo, dont say anything good about Hitler.

[Altariel]

Wooop! Hail Feanor Worshipers indeed!

Heh. Hitler? Except Feanor wasn't a genocidal maniac. smilies/tongue.gif

As for "not saying anything good about Hitler," the man did things that were absolutely abhorrent. There's no denying that his bigotry was sickening and his crimes during WWII monstrous almost beyond comprehension... but then again, there's no denying that he would never have gained the influence he had without charisma and, dare I say it, a certain degree of intelligence.

[Northman]

Feanor was charasmatic I'll give you that, but, he does kind of show some of mankinds worst qualities like stuborn pride. He wanted to get his simerals back no matter what.

[Altariel]

Some might say that wanting to get his Silmarils back no matter what wasn't a sign of one of mankind's worst qualities, but a sign of strong will and resolve. Hubris was definitely a bit of an issue with Feanor, though, you're quite right. I'd say his lack of foresight had a great deal to do with his downfall... a bit of rational planning might have done him good instead of rushing right over to Angband in a fit of insane rage... :P

Aww, Feanor, I still love you... smilies/biggrin.gif

[Finwe]

It's always the worst leaders who are the most eloquent and charismatic speakers. They have no other way of convincing the populace to follow them.

As the famous Eddie Izzard said, what you say is only 5%. The rest of it is how you say it. Ergo, Kennedy could get away with saying "I'm a jelly doughnut," right in the middle of Berlin.

[Robomir]

I reckon Turgon is the best because I think Gondolin is great, and its cool when he marches out to help the rest of the Noldor at that battle. (I cant remember its name).

[Finwe]

You're talking about the Nirnaeth Arnoediad, where Turgon dramatically marched in to try to save the day for his brother, but ended up failing. That entire battle was the epitome of bad luck.

[Altariel]

You know, Finwe, you might have something there...

Which forces me to draw some unfortunate conclusions about Feanor... smilies/frown.gif Enh, I never claimed he was a good leader (if he were a good leader, would he have failed so miserably? smilies/tongue.gif). I just like his character. And I reckon he was probably pretty hot as well. *grins foolishly* Being a tall, darkhaired, brilliant elf... I could go on for days. smilies/biggrin.gif

As for the Nirnaeth Arnoediad... ouch. O.O The epitome of bad luck, indeed. That was unpleasant for everyone involved.

[Laitoste]

Feanor?! Feanor?! I must say, ladies, that I fail to understand your reasoning. Why not go after the only one of the sons of Finwe with at least half a brain? I mean, Finarfin is obviously the smartest of his brothers, who thinks enough of his people to lead them back to Valinor and be forgiven by the Valar. This is more noble than not following what you KNOW is right and following your people. Fingolfin ended up dying because he did the opposite. Sorry if I sound offensive. I had no intention of doing so.

Turgon is also on my list. I've always liked Gondolin. I imagined it to be the most lovely of all the elf-kingdoms.

Finrod is cool, but since he's not a high king...

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[Curufinwe]

I would say Fingolfin would be the best High King of the Noldor because he was fearless. He challenged Morgoth to single combat.

[Gil-Galad]

meh i would have challenged him too if those Valar didn't get there first...

[Saraphim]

So many Fingolfin fans. And I join their ranks. Fingolfin is the High King of the Noldor.

[Gil-Galad]

Was the high king

[Saraphim]

That depends on your point of view. Does his dying make him not the High-King? Perhaps not the ruling High-King, just a dead one.

[Gil-Galad]

He Ceased to exist in that world, so he ceased to be the high king

[yavanna II]

Wooop! Hail Feanor Worshipers indeed!

Heh. Hitler? Except Feanor wasn't a genocidal maniac. smilies/tongue.gif

As for "not saying anything good about Hitler," the man did things that were absolutely abhorrent. There's no denying that his bigotry was sickening and his crimes during WWII monstrous almost beyond comprehension... but then again, there's no denying that he would never have gained the influence he had without charisma and, dare I say it, a certain degree of intelligence.

i beg ur pardon.....
Feanor was a genocidal maniac.... what the hell do ya call the Kinslaying? Nevertheless, Feanor's the best....[We have things in common--like the temper issue--so what can you expect?]

[Bombadil]

Oh boy! I'm in a Tolkien club at school, and my friend and I are grilled all the time for liking Fëanor. I definitely admit he did some questionable things (understatement) but how can you not love that rebellious fëa! I think Tolkien did a great job constructing his lines. And c'mon, how great was it when he went ahead of his party right to the gates of Angband! Sure, everyone likes Fingolfin when he does it! :p

[The Perky Ent]

Hmm.I'd have to say, Finwë. He is truly one of, if not, the bravest. I mena, when your entire city and defence abandons you in fear, and you're the only one standing up to pure evil, you gotta have a lot of guts. Another admerable quality about him was that he would give his life, and did, for the protection of his son's work. Now that's good parenting!

[Gil-Galad]

Finwes heart did stay with Feanor, he even defended Formenos by himself when all others fled...i wonder if that fortress is still being used?

[The Perky Ent]

Yeah. When the Noldor returned at the end of the First Age, they probably went back there. Yeah, Finwë did so much, and Feanor did a great job repaying him. He was honerable in all aspects of life.

[Isowen]

I'd have to say Gil-Galad or Feanor. I'm not sure why, I just like their characters1

[the phantom]

Feanor is awesome.
For Feanor was made the mightiest in all parts of body and mind, in valour, in endurance, in beauty, in understanding, in skill, in strength and in subtlety alike, of all the Children of Iluvatar, and a bright flame was in him.
One of my favorite Sil quotes.
Then Feanor ran from the Ring of Doom, and fled into the night; for his father was dearer to him than the Light of Valinor or the peerless works of his hands; and who among sons, of Elves or of Men, have held their fathers of greater worth.
Thought I'd throw that in to show the oft forgotten loving side of Feanor.

[Fordim Hedgethistle]

I just couldn't let this discussion go away...

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