Awakened Analogies

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I like this game; but as all the other threads for it have been closed I'll start off again.

An analagous relationship is created between two people, places or things. Such as the question 'The Orc is to Elves as the Troll is to ___'. The answer is Ents. Orcs were made in mockery of Elves and Trolls were made in mockery of Ents. Of course most are more tricky than this.

First one: 'Forochel is to Avedui as Haudh-en-Elleth is to ______'.

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Re: Awakened Analogies

Finduilas?

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Re: Awakened Analogies

Yes; both were the resting places of those people. Ask away, but keep to the analogy theme.

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Re: Awakened Analogies

Sorry for being so late in posting, here's my question:

Dorlas is to Brandir like Ulfang is to _

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Re: Awakened Analogies

I guess Maedhros. Dorlas proved unfaithful to Brandir; Ulfang proved unfaithful to Maedhros.

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Re: Awakened Analogies

One hundred posts later and still no confirmation?

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Re: Awakened Analogies

Sorry Gwaihir, I forgot this thread. You're correct. Ask away.

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Re: Awakened Analogies

The Silmarils are to Feanor as ___ are to Yavanna.

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Re: Awakened Analogies

The Silmarills are to Feanor as The Two Trees are to Yavanna.

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Re: Awakened Analogies

Yes; both their greatest achievements. Ask us!

(Caught you, D (I hope). Do you think you could pass your judgement on my work over in the Sil canon forum?)

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Re: Awakened Analogies

Looks good to me Gwaihir, one thing to remember though, we are just editing, nothing is being rewritten by us.

Ok, here goes.

Saruman is to Radagast as Alatar is to___________

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Re: Awakened Analogies

Pallando

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Re: Awakened Analogies

correct H-I

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Re: Awakened Analogies

Bilbo is to Gerontius Took as Merry and Pippin to ___

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Re: Awakened Analogies

Adalgrim Took?

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Re: Awakened Analogies

the answer I was looking for was Bandobras (meaning that as Bilbo grew lder than Old Took, so Pippin and Merry were taller than Bullroarer) But oyur answer fits in as well as mine - Gerontius indeed was Bilbo's grandfather, as well as Adalgrim Pippin's and Merry's.So, it's your turn to ask

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Re: Awakened Analogies

Since I am currently v. much fascinated by astronomy...
...the star known to us as Betelgeuze is to Menelvagor like the star known in Middle-Earth as Borgil is to...?

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Borgil

Erm...Orion? Borgil is Betelguese, if I am not wrong. And Menelvagor is Orion.

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Re: Borgil

So, what's the answer to the analogy...?

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Orion

Orion would be my answer...

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Re: Orion

The point is that Borgil is most probably not Betelgeuse - at least my analogy is based on that <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">
Would be a very stupid analogy anyway if so (a is to b like a to b...very hard).

Therefore Orion cannot be the answer, but would if Borgil was Betelgeuze. So if Borgil is not Betelgeuze, and therefore not in Orion...

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Uh

Oh...I thought Borgil was Betelguese...My other thought would be Betelguese - Menelvagor (Betelguese being the brightest star in that constellation) or is that Sirius? I've never been crash-hot at astronomy. And Borgil - Valacirca, the brightest star there. After looking that up it makes Borgil the Star Merak...which points to the pole star. Hmm. <img src=ohwell.gif ALT=":/">

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Re: Uh

Since Borgil is described as a very bright, big red star north from Menelvagor, I took it to be Aldebaran; let this be a small hint; Betelgeuse in Menelvagor, Aldebaran in???

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Re: Uh

No, I'm not much good at astromomy of any sort, I'm afraid. I'm not going to be much use here.

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Re: Uh

It's all in the books.

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Re: Uh

Betelguese is a big, red star; Carnil is too. My last-gasp answer would be Carnil.

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Re: Uh

star-constellation; star-???

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Re: Uh

I don't even know what Brogil is, to be frank. I can't find it in any of my books.

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Non-Astronomer's resource

Gwaihir: The amazing resource for people like myself and yourself who no basically nothing about astonomy: http://www.glyphweb.com/eskywww.glyphweb.com/esky</a> is on the same server as the Encyclopedia of Arda. Using this superior resource, I guess your answer to be Taurus. Aldebaran is the eye of Taurus. Although the Encyclopedia of Arda says that Borgil IS Betelguese. Stupid Encyclopedia.

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Re: Non-Astronomer's resource

Yep, Taurus is correct.
(I would have accepted the answer 'Remirrath, the Netted Stars' (found in LOTR), too, although we do not know whether these aren't more likely the Pleyades.)

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Hmm

Thanks...it did have the Pleiades in there but...anyway. I can't think of any hard ones so a simple one will have to do:
Beren is to Luthien like Tuor is to....
A bit too easy perhaps <img src=rolleyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes">

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Re: Hmm

Beren is to Luthien as Tuor is to Idril[/

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Yup

That is coorrect. Sorry I couldn't think of a more challenging one. <img src=rolleyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes">

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Re: Yup

Sometimes it's nice to be able to answer without having to think too hard or to look it up. <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

Frodo is to 3018 as Bilbo is to _____.

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Adventures

Frodo is to 3018 as Bilbo is to...2941? Both the years on which Frodo and Bilbo had their adventures...Frodo to destroy the ring, Bilbo with the dwarves on the Quest of Erebor.

It is nice to be able to do that. But it doesn't happen very often <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

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Re: Adventures

maybe you are not correct, enep. perhaps gwaihir wishes the year frodo came in possession of the ring

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Hmm

I never said I was right; but that's a good point. Multiple answer analogies. <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

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Re: Hmm

Its not like there is a very big difference anyway.

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Re: Orion

The awnser plainly is the planet Mars!
Borgil is the Warstar Bor-Gil funnt that Mars was the wargod of the roman empire ... LOL Good ol JRR

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Re: Orion

Also called Red Borgil - I think you guys got it wrong, quite sure its statet in the letters somewhere that Borgil is Mars!!!

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Re: Orion

The Bilbo/Frodo thing 2930 of the top of my heads - I have no books at work! But didtnt they both become 50 years old in those years???

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Re: Orion

Hrmm....where has Gwaihir got to?? <img src=ohwell.gif ALT=":/">

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Incorrect analogies

First of all my math is all wrong! Bilbo becomes 50 in 2940 so thats my wild guess.

As I didn't have my books I researched the barrowdowns analogies and found that Frodo Baggins is born in TA 2969 BUT this is wrong!!! FRODO IS BORN IN TA 2968!!!

Still the quess is probably along the wrong lines ... as enep I await thee Gwaihir

Cheers Telchar

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Re: Incorrect analogies

Not quite sure where's he got too...It's been some time (about 350 posts <img src=tongue.gif ALT=":b"> ) so I'll ask a new one:

The River Sirion is to Beleriand as the River ____ is to Middle Earth?

Not the best analogy, but just to get things started...<img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Re: Incorrect analogies

Sirion WAS in ME - anyway you're thinking of Anduin.

Cheers Telchar

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Re: Incorrect analogies

Hey look Im a Wight - Hit me enep
By the way how many posts must I make before I become a good guy???

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Re: Incorrect analogies

Nay, Beleriand was and is never called ME. Sort of like Europe and Asia - they're connected, but are considered different continents, if you know what I mean.

Anyway, you're answer is correct. <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)"> With regard to your 'rank', you never become a 'good guy', as you are in a barrow - you can only decay <img src=biggrin.gif ALT=":D"> There's a thread somewhere in the Barrow-Downs forum that lists all the 'ranks.'

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Re: Incorrect analogies

OK!
Lightfoot is to Snowmane as Melian is to __________?

The ME/Beleriand I'll put in a thread under &quot;books&quot; to hear peoples opinion - I don't agree - I allways understood it like there was Middle Earth and Aman - but Im propably wrong!

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Re: Incorrect analogies

Lightfoot was Snowmane's mother, therefore the answer is Luthien.

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[Telchar]

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Analogies

Correct Falmar - ask us?

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Re: Analogies

Here goes.
Merry is to Pippin, as Gollum is to _______.

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Analogies

Deagol... Allthough Merry never drowend pippin <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

Cheers Telchar

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Re: Analogies

You are correct, they were cousins.
Your turn Telchar.

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Re: Analogies

OK

Angrist is to Telchar as Narsil id to _________


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[Grond]

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Re: Analogies

Wasn't Narsil made by Telchar?

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[Telchar]

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Re: Analogies

Indeed - Ask us!

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[Grond]

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Re: Analogies

Silmarils are to Feanor as _______ is to Enerdhil.

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[Telchar]

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Re: Analogies

Either the first or the only Elessar, depending how you interpret UT.

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[Grond]

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Re: Analogies

Correct! I interpret it was the only, but it isn't quite clear.

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[Telchar]

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analogies

Frodo is to Bilbo as Aragorn is to ________

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[Falmar]

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Re: analogies

The best answer I can think of is 'Elrond'. He took the place of Aragorn's father, as Bilbo did for Frodo.

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[Telchar]

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Re: analogies

That is not what I was thinking of Falmar.

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Would you be thinking of Gandalf?

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[Telchar]

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No Beregond - You are both going along the wrong lines. Although both your answers could be right - they are not the one I had in mind.

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[Odysseus819]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

You're not thinking of Elendil, are you? Frodo is the heir of Bilbo, and Araagorn refers to himself as the heir of Elendil. That seems strained, though.

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[Telchar]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

Actually I made up my mind to accept both Elendil and Isildur, as Aragorn calls himself the Heir of them both. So go on Odysseus <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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[Odysseus819]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

Turin is to Glaurung as ___________ is to Gothmog.

By practice taught, I have learned patience, having much endured By tempest and in battle both. Come then This evil also! I am well prepared.</p>

[Telchar]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

Ecthelion of the Fountain (d. FA 511) both E and G died in their fight before the Fountain in the Kings Court of Gondolin, if I remember right. - One of my favorite scenes, but long time since I read it <img src=cool.gif ALT="8)">

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[Odysseus819]

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You got it Telchar. <img src=grin.gif ALT=">D">

By practice taught, I have learned patience, having much endured By tempest and in battle both. Come then This evil also! I am well prepared.</p>

[Telchar]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

Merry was to Theoden as _________ was to Isildur?

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[Sharkû]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

Ohtar, the esquire of Isildur?

'I heed no call of clamant bell that rings / Iron-tongued in the towers of earthly kings. / Here on the stones and trees there lies a spell / Of unforgotten loss, of memory more blest / Than mortal wealth...'</p>

[Telchar]

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That is correct Sharku - your turn <img src=cool.gif ALT="8)">

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[Sharkû]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

Théoden is to Old English/Anglo-Saxon as Vinitharya (original name of Eldacar) is to...?

'To open the eternal worlds, to open the immortal eyes of man inwards, into the worlds of thought, into Eternity.'</p>

[Odysseus819]

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Wild guess -- Latin?

By practice taught, I have learned patience, having much endured By tempest and in battle both. Come then This evil also! I am well prepared.</p>

[Telchar]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

Eldacar lived ca TA 1500! The name Vinitharya was given to him by the Northmen of Rhovanion who some 500 years later were known as the Eothéod - Im can only guess that the name Vinitharya too would come from Old English/Anglo-Saxon - but it doesn't seem right and probably isn't <img src=cool.gif ALT="8)">

Anar kaluva tielyanna!</p>

[Sharkû]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

Neither is right, but both guesses aren't too far off.

'To open the eternal worlds, to open the immortal eyes of man inwards, into the worlds of thought, into Eternity.'</p>

[Falmar]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

Gaelic?

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[Sharkû]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

'G' is a good start; but logic also demands that is related to the language of the Rohirrim.

'To open the eternal worlds, to open the immortal eyes of man inwards, into the worlds of thought, into Eternity.'</p>

[Telchar]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

Then I would quess Celtic

Anar kaluva tielyanna!</p>

[Sharkû]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

Which so nicely starts with a 'G' <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

'To open the eternal worlds, to open the immortal eyes of man inwards, into the worlds of thought, into Eternity.'</p>

[Odysseus819]

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Sarcasm -- I love it ! Is it Greek?

By practice taught, I have learned patience, having much endured By tempest and in battle both. Come then This evil also! I am well prepared.</p>

[Falmar]

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Germanic??

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[Sharkû]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

If I don't reply you can almost bet that you're wrong <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)"> At least in this case.

Each man kills the thing he loves...</p>

[Odysseus819]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

The answer is a language that begins with &quot;G&quot;, but is not Gaelic, German or Greek? What is it, Gujarati?

Don't be precise, and don't worry.</p>

[Theodred21]

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I bet it's Gibberish.

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[Theodred21]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

Okay Sharkey, this is too hard. Why don't you just give us the answer, because everyone is stumped! <img src=frown.gif ALT=":(">

...he heard Theodred's great voice cry "To me, Eorlingas!"</p>

[SteadfastSam]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

Gothic? The goths were a people so I bet they had a language, what?

"Good Morning!" said the dragon. "You seem surprised."
"Good Morning! said Farmer Giles. "I am that!"
Farmer Giles of Ham </p>

[Theodred21]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

Maybe it could be Gaulish Celtic or something <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

...he heard Theodred's great voice cry "To me, Eorlingas!"</p>

[Eldarion son of Aragorn]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

It could be Gaeilge or Greek.

"He turned to Eldarion, and gave into his hands the winged crown of Gondor and the sceptre of Arnor, and bade him farewell."</p>

[Beregond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

Galician? <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

Sharku, what is it?

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[Theodred21]

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We give UP!!!!!!!!!

...he heard Theodred's great voice cry "To me, Eorlingas!"</p>

[SteadfastSam]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

Sharku, if you don't respond I WILL shoot you full of arrows! <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

"Good Morning!" said the dragon. "You seem surprised."
"Good Morning! said Farmer Giles. "I am that!"
Farmer Giles of Ham </p>

[The Watcher in the Water]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bluepal.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

I really do think that another question should be asked here... by either Sharku or someone else as this one has been around for ever and no-one has got it...

The road goes ever on...</p>

[Theodred21]

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WE <img src=eek.gif ALT=":eek"> GIVE <img src=eek.gif ALT=":eek"> UP <img src=eek.gif ALT=":eek"> !

...he heard Theodred's great voice cry "To me, Eorlingas!"</p>

[Sharkû]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bluepal.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

I'm dreadfully sorry - I forgot that I had an open thread here.

Sam was correct already - the names of the Northerners and some Hobbit names, too, are Gothic in origin.

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[SteadfastSam]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bluepal.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

Whoohoo! I win! I am now offering autographs, for anyone interested. <img src=laugh.gif ALT=":lol">
Here is mine:
Glaruang is to dragons as _____is to Humans.

"I will, Lord." said Tuor.</p>

[Theodred21]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bluepal.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

Aragorn?

Let me lie here--to keep the Fords till Eomer comes!</p>

[Beregond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bluepal.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

Elros? <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

<font size="-2">'They have come!' he said. 'Take courage and look! There are fell things below.'</p>

[SteadfastSam]

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No and No.

"I will, Lord." said Tuor.</p>

[Odysseus819]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bluepal.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

Bëor ?

<font size = "- 2"> Listen! the mighty Being is awake / And doth with his eternal motion make / A sound like thunder--everlastingly.</p>[i]

[SteadfastSam]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bluepal.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: analogies

YES! Go on, my friend.

"I will, Lord." said Tuor.</p>