Superlatives

[Odysseus819]

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How about some trivia questions that involve SUPERLATIVES (largest, longest, oldest, etc.)?

I will pose one:

BRAVEST --

According to the narrator, what was the BRAVEST thing that Bilbo ever did?

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Herm

Erm...I'm not real up to date with the Hobbit (meaning I've had to read all these dodgy books for English in between Tolkien and haven't read the Hobbit for half a year or so <img src=rolleyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"> ) but I suppose it would be...when he was in Mirkwood, fighting spiders. I know that's not right, but it's a sound guess to my mind. I think it was something on Erebor. Ai! <img src=ohwell.gif ALT=":/"> Btw, good idea Oddyseus. It's always good to have a few new games to make the place look all spiffy. <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

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Re: Herm

The bravest thing Bilbo ever did was to continue down the tunnel to Smang's lair.


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<font size="2">"For Aldarion had become enamoured of the Great Sea, and of a ship riding there alone without sight of land, borne by the winds with foam at its throat to coasts and havens unguessed; and that love and desire never left him until his life's end."</p>

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Re: Superlatives

Voronwë is correct -- continuing down the tunnel after hearing Smaug SNORING ! The narrator thought this was braver than battling 40 or 50 giant spiders for some reason.

Your turn, Voronwë.

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Re: Superlatives

I'll keep to the superlative theme.

Who was the oldest (known) elf in Middle Earth at the time of the War of the Ring?



-Voronwë
<font size="2">"For Aldarion had become enamoured of the Great Sea, and of a ship riding there alone without sight of land, borne by the winds with foam at its throat to coasts and havens unguessed; and that love and desire never left him until his life's end."</p>

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Re: Superlatives

Galadriel, maybe?

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Re: Superlatives

Círdan?

<h6>'Spring is all around you / and calls your name softly in the wind / Burning when the day is dying / she kills the rays of a boundless sun. / And falls after years of death / eternally on your tears of joy. / So feel, feel the hands of glory / that will lead you into a golden sea.' (Kirlian Camera, 'Ascension') </h6></p>

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Re: Superlatives

Cirdan it was. Ask away, Sharku.


-Voronwë
<font size="2">"For Aldarion had become enamoured of the Great Sea, and of a ship riding there alone without sight of land, borne by the winds with foam at its throat to coasts and havens unguessed; and that love and desire never left him until his life's end."</p>

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Re: Superlatives

I can't believe I missed that, curses, Cirdan, how could you even put a question mark at the end? how could you get it wrong?(fumes spouting from my ears)

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Calm down...Deep breaths...

Don't get too agro D <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)"> <img src=laugh.gif ALT=":lol">

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Re: Calm down...Deep breaths...

I put the q mark because I could not really believe I snatched away a question just before HIstarion's eyes!

Which are the highest mountains of Arda?

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Re: Calm down...Deep breaths...

The Pelori

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Re: Calm down...Deep breaths...

Sí.


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Re: Calm down...Deep breaths...

Who was the fastest?

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Re: Calm down...Deep breaths...

Falcon? Hawk?
Wait a sec......hawk.

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Re: Calm down...Deep breaths...

The fastest what?

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Re: Calm down...Deep breaths...

ok, it is a Vala

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Re: Calm down...Deep breaths...

Oromë ?

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Re: Calm down...Deep breaths...

Not who i was looking for, he was fast, but it was only when he was on his steed Nahar. Try again.

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Aha!

Tulkas, who &quot;can outrun all things that go feet&quot;.

That was a good question.

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Re: Aha!

your turn

"It seems fate is not without a sense of irony."</p>

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Re: Strong dwarf

Who was the strongest of the dwarves in Thorin's company?

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Re: Strong dwarf

I recall the name Bombur, but I definately could be wrong.

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D!

D! D! D! Now I shall have to call you Mr. D Ghost Prince. <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)"> Congrats on the 500.
*edit: Bombur was the fattest, or largest. Or sleepiest. Or stupidest <img src=tongue.gif ALT=":b"> but I believe the strongest was...Dori. I'm not sure, but he carried Bilbo.
*edit II: This is my 250th post. That's Mr. E Shade, thanks!

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Re: D! or E!

Dori is correct.

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Wisest

Who was the wisest? A multitude of answers could fit this one, but I am looking for one in particular. <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

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Re: Wisest

Wisest what?

One of Saruman's many titles was Saruman the Wise.

But my answer is Gandalf.

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Yup

I was, infact, looking for Gandalf. Saruman would also have fitted the bill, but I don't feel that he was wise enough. He allowed himself to be led by the Ring, and evil desires. Any number of the Eldar would have also fitted - Cirdan, Elrond and Galadriel for example. Continue, o Impaler!

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Re: Yup

Let me think :P

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Calling Impaler!

Impaler? You've been thinking for a little while. <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

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Re: Calling Impaler!

enep, you are a quickest poster I've ever seen. congrats on passing beyond another milestone -300 <img src=biggrin.gif ALT=":D">

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Re: Calling Impaler!

Thanks. And I thought I was slacking off <img src=tongue.gif ALT=":b">

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Re: Dying Thread

I think Vlad is trying to kill my thread. Would someone else like to pose a superlatives question? Please go ahead. Enep?

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Re: Dying Thread

K, who was the tallest elf?

It seems fate is not without a sense of irony.</p>

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Re: Dying Thread

Thingol.


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<font size="2">"For Aldarion had become enamoured of the Great Sea, and of a ship riding there alone without sight of land, borne by the winds with foam at its throat to coasts and havens unguessed; and that love and desire never left him until his life's end."</p>

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Re: Dying Thread

Quick reply to an easy question. Your turn Voronwë.

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Re: Dying Thread

Acording to the 'lore of the living creatures', what was 'coldest'?


-Voronwë
<font size="2">"For Aldarion had become enamoured of the Great Sea, and of a ship riding there alone without sight of land, borne by the winds with foam at its throat to coasts and havens unguessed; and that love and desire never left him until his life's end."</p>

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Re: Dying Thread

Snake?

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Re: Dying Thread

Yes, or as Treebeard's rhyme says, 'serpent'.

Ask away!


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Re: Dying Thread

Who was called eldest (not Bombadil!)?

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Re: Dying Thread

Fangorn?

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Re: Dying Thread

Yes, Galdriel calls him so. Ask us!

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Re: Dying Thread

the one I'm looing for is called old, though he's only second oldest of his race

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Re: Dying Thread

The Old Took?

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Re: Dying Thread

correct. proceed

btw - what a quick exchange of hits, heh

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Re: Dying Thread

10 replies within an hour <img src=biggrin.gif ALT=":D">

Who is most evil (based on Letters)?

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Re: Dying Thread

Based on letters eh? Too bad I haven´t read it. Anyway I guess Melkor or Morgoth seems too obvious, seeing your way of asking and the explicite reference to Letters. So I´ll go for Sauron.. just a wild guess, but questions may provide a clue to their own answer as I´ve explained above. I might be totally wrong though... <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Re: Dying Thread

Ungoliant

Melcor sarted with a purpose to achieve - he, after all wanted to create something. Her evilness is purposeless. So I vote for her

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Re: Dying Thread

gildor's right.
JRRT said there is no absolute evil in ME, but Sauron would come closest to it.
Ask us!

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Hmm...

I´m really amazed I got that one right.
And I think H-I´s answer is far more reasonable; Sauron and even Morgoth started out good and turned to evil later. Ungoliant on the other hand 'devoured light' and made Morgoth call upon his buddies the Balrogs. So one might say, very cautiously (I wouldn´t want to offend anybody), that JRRT was mistaken on his own work here.
Any thoughts on this one?

As for the thread... I´ll have to think, so be patient please.. <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Re: Hmm...

ok ok here it finally is:
There were three hosts of Elves travelling to the West in the deeps of time some time after they awoke at the lake of Cuvienen (spelling?).

What were the people of the FIRST host called, and by whom was it lead?
Same for second
Same for LAST

You may skip the second since it isn´t a superlative but I just felt it should be put in as well for completeness <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

PS: Bonus question: By whom were all three hosts lead?









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Re: Hmm...

FIRST - Vanyar, led by Ingwë
LAST -- Teleri, led by Olwë and Elwë

The SECOND were the Noldor, led by Finwë.

Bonus: Orome?

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Re: Hmm...

Correcto!

Go ahead!

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Re: Hmm...

Hmm...why can't anyone spell Cuivenen? <img src=rolleyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes">

Ungoliant fits the picture quite well, although any of the dragons does too. Glaurung was [created?] as a servant of Morgoth. An evil servant; Glaurung (and for that matter any of the other dragons) did not know kindness. Glaurung and Smaug unmercifully killed, as did Ancalagon (in the rather short passage describing him <img src=tongue.gif ALT=":b"> ) and Scatha for an example.

Although, the Ring. The Ring was created as a sort of Sauron-container, an object symbolising the essence of evil and power that Sauron had concentrated into it; which, IMO, makes it a purely evil object; never starting out as good or with a decent purpose (as did Morgoth and Sauron along with the Balrogs etc.) From my perspective, however, it was an animate object...which would make it far more evil than Morgoth and Sauron. But - from this there arises the fact that it could only enhance power and not be a power of its own, and without a powerful wielder it was nothing; although to some extent this is not true. And to some extent it is, and I am rambling on for no reason. :sigh: <img src=ohwell.gif ALT=":/">

To save a debate, I shall pursue this point no further. Case closed <img src=biggrin.gif ALT=":D">

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Re: Hmm...

??

It seems fate is not without a sense of irony.</p>

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Re: Hmm...

Not yet... I don´t wish to change this thread in some kind of books topic, but I have to make a few remarks here.
Everything and everyone you name all had there origins either in Morgoth or in Sauron and since they were initially good, you cannot consider these things truly evil, because at its deepest roots lies not evil but good.
And therefore I think JRRT has put in Ungoliant; as a real counterpart of all goodness. She´s not caring about anything besides herself. She has no interest at all in the domination of others as is so strongly connected to the evil of Morgoth and Sauron, she only desires to devour all light, or the destruction of everything. Destruction is not connected to evil in such a way as domination, considering Eru´s destruction of Numenor and the explicit naming of the 'Free Peoples'.
The general evil in Middle-Earth is that of domination, that of Morgoth. I think Ungoliant is beyond that evil, and therefore she is not evil in that way; since she doesn´t care about anything, good or evil, only in 'devouring'.
In a way this is similar to Tom Bombadil, who is considered 'good', but he really doesn´t care about anything outside his 'own little realm'. I guess good means one´s willing to fight evil, and evil to fight good. And since Ungoliant fights good and evil, and Bombadil fights none, in my opinion you cannot count them evil or good. Or you might say their are different kinds of good and evil, or that they are truly evil and truly good and the rest is just somewhere in the middle.
As you observe I can also do a bit of rambling for no reason... <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

Greetings gildor <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Re: Hmm...

I guess it's my turn to ask/

Who was the mightiest of all the elven singers of the First Age ?

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Re: Hmm...

I am going to say Daeron, but Maglor came close.

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Re: Hmm...

Daeron is correct, unless I'm reading too much into the passage (description of Maglor wandering the shores after taking the two Silmarils).

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Re: Hmm...

Ok, how many elves were there at Cuinuvien(sp?) when thye first awoke?

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Re: Hmm...

just realized this isn't a Superlatives type question really, but I still want to ask it. We can get back on topic after this one I guess.

It seems fate is not without a sense of irony.</p>

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Re: Hmm...

144

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Re: Hmm...

You are correct, burra.

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Re: Hmm...

What is the name of the tallest of the towers on upon Emyn Beraid?

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Re: Hmm...

Elostirion?

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Re: Hmm...

yes

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Re: Hmm...

Who was the first king of the Rohan?

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Re: Hmm...

Eorl?

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Yup

Your turn. It says that Eorl was the first king of Rohan.

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Re: Tallest

Continuing the theme of superlatives:

Who was the tallest elf in Middle Earth in the First Age?

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Re: Tallest

Elwe Thingol. Didn't we already have this once or twice before <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)"> ?

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Re: Tallest

Correct. No idea whether it's been asked before, as I haven't read every thread on the site. <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

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Re: Tallest

Sorry for the delay.

Who would have been 'Not the first' (but thought to be)?
Not a perfevt superlative question, I know...

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Re: Tallest

Feanor was &quot;not the first&quot; to be killed. That honour goes to his father, Finwe.

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Re: Tallest

Perfect answer burra.

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Re: Tallest

Who were the leaders of the greatest host of the Eldar relocating to Aman?

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Re: Largest Host

Elwë and Olwë ?

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Re: Largest Host

yes

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Re: Largest Host

Who was the &quot;fairest and most beloved&quot; of all of the house of Finwë?

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Re: Largest Host

Finrod Felagund, most beloved of the Noldor?

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Re: Largest Host

Right you are, Sharku. It say that in the Silmarillion in the very sad scene in which he dies.

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Re: Largest Host

Again not quite a superlative, but who was 'not the least valiant' of the house of Haleth?

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Re: Valiant

Hunthor

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Re: Valiant

Correct.

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Re: Valiant

Who was the most valiant of the Noldor (acc. to the narrator)?

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Re: Valiant

I'll rely on Blind Guardian again for this one... Fingolfin was 'most proud and most valiant' <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

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Re: Valiant

Correct -- that really WAS an easy one. What/who is Blind Guardian?

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Re: Valiant

Blind Guardian is a heavy metal's group.
They're German, and in my opinion, they're one of the best groups ever.
Most songs of Blind Guardian deal with LOTR, Silmarillion...

They have a song in which that is said of Fingolfin, that's why Sharku said he relied in them.

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Re: Valiant

I also did so above, having their lines 'Thus he died, Nom the wise, fair and noble, most beloved of the Noldor race...' in mind.


Anyway,
from where came the biggest retinue of men of the Outlands which aided Minas Tirith in the Battle of the Pelennor?

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Re: Valiant

The men of Rohan?

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Re: Valiant

Hmm... practically correct, but they did not come from the Outlands of Gondor.

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Re: Valiant

Imrahil brought a lot of knights from Dol Amroth... but I don't think his was the biggest force. Hmmmm.... was it those led by Forlong?

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Re: Valiant

It was indeed Imrahil, for behind his unit of knights marched about 700 men of Dol Amroth. Forlong isn't the answer to all of my questions <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">
Ask us, Lord Wight!


Hey, a new thing to celebrate almost daily. All lucky 7's!

</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000003>Sharku</A> at: 3/16/01 10:12:04 am

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Re: Valiant

I guess I lucked into that one... I kept think someone brought more than a 1000, but that was the Rohirrim. And didn't Angor later lead a really large force from Pelargir? Anyways, let's see if I can think of a question....hmm.....

I don't think I can... we've asked all the good ones and I'll have to turn to my books. But that will have to wait 'til I get home.



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Re: Valiant

Where could the largest library of Shire history found?

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Re: Valiant

Michel Delving probably, since they had that museum, but for some reason I am going to say Brandy Hall.

Fate, it seems is not without a sense of irony.</p>

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Re: Valiant

Both good guess, but not quite right...

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Re: Valiant

maybe Rivendell? (just wild guess, but why not <img src=rolleyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"> )

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Re: Valiant

Your getting colder... remember that 'mortals are not their study'.... WE're talking Shire history, here!

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Re: Valiant

Minas Tirith? They had relations with the shire during the fourth age, not much but still.

Thus even as Eru spoke to us shall beauty not before conceived be brought into Eä, and evil be good to have been.</p>

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Re: Valiant

You all keep guessing further and further away from the Shire. Stay closer to home!

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Re: Valiant

Great Smials?

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Re: Valiant

Getting closer....

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Re: Superlatives

Was it in the Tower Hills where Elanor and the Fairbairns lived?



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Re: Superlatives

Yes. Undertowers, to be exact! Though there were great collections at Great Smials and Brandy Hall, the one at Undertowers included the Red Book of Westmarch for a long time.

Your turn...

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Re: Superlatives

OK... this will probably be too easy for all you old hands <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)"> ...

What surpassed a hobbit's wildest hopes? And when?



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Re: Superlatives

Was it the song about Frodo and Sam's advenures before the party at Cormallen?

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Re: Superlatives

No, but it did involve Sam...



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Re: Superlatives

Ok, I think I've reach the answer: finding Bill the poney at The Prancing Poney when they were returning to the Shire surpassed Sam's wildest hopes.

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Re: Superlatives

It probably did Grond, but it wasn't what I was thinking of. Sam seems to have had a lot of his hopes fulfilled... Lucky chap <img src=biggrin.gif ALT=":D">



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Re: Superlatives

Was it Sam meeting Gildor and company ?

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Re: Superlatives

This is my last guess: the results of the present of Galadriel.

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Re: Superlatives

Was it Sam when he first met elves? He loved stories about elves.

Thus even as Eru spoke to us shall beauty not before conceived be brought into Eä, and evil be good to have been.</p>

[Beregond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Was it Frodo saying to Sam how destroying the ring was beyond his wildest hopes?

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[Beregond]

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Sorry for the double post.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Third time lucky Grond! From the final chapter of Return of the King: &quot;Spring surpassed his wildest hopes. His trees began to sprout and grow, as if time was in a hurry... In the Party Field a beautiful young sapling leaped up: it had silver bark and long leaves, and burst into golden flowers in April. It was indeed a mallorn, and was the wonder of the neighbourhood.&quot;

Your turn!



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[Grond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

How many people says the word ´garn´along LOTR?

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[Beregond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Good question!

Three? Gorbag, the tracker orc, and one of the Ruffians in the Shire?

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[Grond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

You got three! But there is still one more.

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[Beregond]

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Grishnakh? Bill Ferny?

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[Grond]

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Both wrong; the answer is quite surprising.

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[Beregond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Sam? <img src=eek.gif ALT=":eek">

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[Grond]

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Not so surprising.

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[Beregond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Now I remember! Ted Sandyman! <img src=laugh.gif ALT=":lol">

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[Grond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Correct! Carry on, Beregond.

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[Beregond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

What modern day sport did Bandobras Took invent in the Battle of the Greenfields, and how? <img src=laugh.gif ALT=":lol">

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[HerenIstarion]

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he did crash the head of Golfimbul the Orc of Mount Gram with his club. The head flew in the air and got right into the rabbit hole

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[Beregond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Correct! Carry on! <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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[HerenIstarion]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

I forgot to say that the sport was golf <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

ok, next one - this two persons were related, and were generally known as the tallest (= largest) and the oldest of their race, but only until the certain time, for indeed they were surpassed in due time by their own blood, - former by two followers, and latter by one. So, name them all.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Bullroarer Took, and Gerontius Took.
Merry and Pippin were (under heavy Ent-draught doping <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)"> ) taller than Bandobras, and Bilbo (again, under heavy doping, this time the Ring) surpassed even the Old Took's age.

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[HerenIstarion]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

so, there are strong reasons to disqualify the latter 3.
correct. proceed

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

From which point in ME could the 'uttermost foundations of stone' be reached directly?

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[Beregond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

If you jump off the Bridge of Khazad-Dum? <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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[Sharkû]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Yep, correct. Proceed, Beregond.

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[Beregond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Name the two greatest works of the Elves and Dwarves. <img src=cool.gif ALT="8)">

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[Amandil]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Well, if you mean the greatest of each, then the Silmarils for the Elves, and the Nauglamir for the Dwarves. If you want the greatest works they produced together, I would say the Nauglamir, as it encompassed a Silmaril within it and the caves of Menegroth, as both Elves and Dwarves labored long to make that the &quot;fairest dwelling of any king that has ever been east of the sea.&quot;

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[Beregond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

I was looking for the greatest of each, and you got it right! carry on!

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[Amandil]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Who was described as the truest of friends, killed at the hand of him who he most loved?

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[Grond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Beleg Cuthalion?

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[Amandil]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Correct. Say on!

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[Grond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Who was the fattest hobbit in the Westfarthing?

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[Beregond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Will Whitfoot? <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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[Grond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Correct! (At least until he was imprisoned by Saruman's people).

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[Odysseus819]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Beregond -- you're up.

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[Beregond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Sorry about that again! <img src=redface.gif ALT=":O">

What was the northern-most Mountain of the Misty Mountains?

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[Odysseus819]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Carn Dûm ?

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[Beregond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

No, Carn Dum is in the Mountains of Angmar.

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[Orald]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Mount Gundabag?

I wouldn't consider Carn Dum in the Mountains of Angmar, I didn't even really consider a real mountain range. They aren't listed anywhere as separate from the Misty Mountains. At least I haven't seen them listed as separate.

Thus even as Eru spoke to us shall beauty not before conceived be brought into Eä, and evil be good to have been.</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000045>Durelen</A> at: 5/1/01 3:41:54 pm

[Beregond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Ok, I'm wrong there. Sorry about that. My map seemed to indicate that the Mountains of Angmar were separate from the Misty Mountains. I looked it up, however, and found that is not so. They're just another part of the Misty Mountains. My mistake!

Odysseus, take it away! <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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[Odysseus819]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Who was the most beautiful of mortal women in the elder days?

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[Telchar]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Morwen?

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[Beregond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Luthien?

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[Odysseus819]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

I was thinking of a woman from the race of Men, so to speak.

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[Telchar]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

The were both just that - At least Morwen was, and Luthien as/is countet among mortal men...

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[Odysseus819]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

I'm sorry I saw Luthien but missed Morwen. Morwen is correct. Ask one, Telchar.

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[Telchar]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Superlatives

Ok - Im looking for the oldest truly mortal person that Frodo had conversation with in Book 1 of The Fellowship of the Ring - when I say &quot;truly mortal&quot;, I mean: Nobody that had their lives prolonged by any external power like say: The Lord of the Nazgul or Bilbo ...

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[Grond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Truly mortal

Maybe Gloin? Frodo spoke to him at Rivendel, just after he had recovered from his wound.

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[Telchar]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Truly mortal

That is not in Book 1 of The Fellowship of the Ring, but book 2

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[Beregond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Truly mortal

Would that be Gaffer Gamgee? <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000114>Beregond</A> at: 5/8/01 10:39:54 am

[Telchar]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Truly mortal

Nope Beregond - The Gaffer was born in TA 2926 (five years older than Aragorn) - Im looking for someone a little older <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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[Odysseus819]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Truly mortal

Lobelia or Otho?

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[Telchar]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Truly mortal

I cant find any reference to Lobelias age - I suspect she was younger than Otho. She died in TA 3020 being &quot;over a hundred years old&quot; - If I suspect correctly she had been born between TA 2913-2919.
But I was thinking of Otho, who was born in TA 2912.

You're on Odysseus <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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[Odysseus819]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Truly mortal

What type of being could see farthest in M.E., it is reported?

(Not 100% sure of this one but I'll see if anyone's guess matches my answer.)

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[Sharkû]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Truly mortal

Gwaihir, perhaps?

'I heed no call of clamant bell that rings / Iron-tongued in the towers of earthly kings. / Here on the stones and trees there lies a spell / Of unforgotten loss, of memory more blest / Than mortal wealth...'</p>

[Odysseus819]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Truly mortal

The passage I'm thinking of says that &quot; ______________ 's sight exceeded even that of the eagles&quot;. Or something like that.

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[Telchar]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Out of sight!

In SILM its stated that: When varda as with Manwë he could see further than anything else...

So Vala...

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[Odysseus819]

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I guess that's correct although not what I was thinking of. In UT it says of Glaurung that his dragon's sight was greater even that that of eagles, and I assumed that eagles cd see farther than elves, so . . . . But I said &quot;beings&quot; so Valar is correct. Ask away Telchar.

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[Telchar]

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What was the oldest heirloom that Aragorn possesed after his coronation?


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[Grond]

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The Ring of Barahir maybe?

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[Telchar]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/vilya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Oldest

That was what I was thinking of.
But what about the Palantiri? Would you consider them to be heirlooms? and would they be older?

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[Telchar]

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Anyway - you got it Grond! Ask us.

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[Odysseus819]

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Grond?

Grond -- your serve.

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