Carnil

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

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What was Carnil, who made it and what colour was it?

And by the Wight's new rule, the source of this question is in the Silmarilion.

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Re: Carnil

Carnil was a red star made by Varda.

Look into the http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/library/classiccourt/77/Mirror of Desire.</a> </p>

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Carnil

Yes, that's what I wanted. Ask!

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Carnil

Who killed Scatha the Worm?

Look into the http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/library/classiccourt/77/Mirror of Desire.</a> </p>

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Carnil

Fram killed the worm!

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Carnil

He did indeed. Ask on, R.

Look into the http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/library/classiccourt/77/Mirror of Desire.</a> </p>

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Scatha's treasures ...

Which of the Company of the Ring came into possession of a treasure from Scatha's hoard? And what was that item?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Scatha

It was Merry, he got a silver horn from Eowyn.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Scatha

Wow.... you must have been reading that as I typed it <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">
Good answer...go!

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> :)

to be honest i asked a similar question some time ago <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

ill ask my question later

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Ask!

I apears that Balin999 has left the board. Who wants to ask for him?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Ask!

I will ask!

In how many arches did the Last Bridge span its river?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Ask!

3

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Ask!

Yup.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Ask!

Describe the bridge at Tharbad.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Ask!

Ruined with the town (if there ever was one).... but the ford still functions.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Ask!

I think there was only ever a ford. It was supposed to be a trick. Ask us!

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Ask!

Tricksy!

This is a UT question, but you may be able to guess or figure out the answer by giving it some thought.

The area around Tharbad was wide open grasslands. But once it had all been thickly forested. Where did the trees go? What happened to the forests?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Ask!

Cut DOWN by the Númenoréans to build their ships from the wood?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Ask!

Yes! They deforested huge tracts of the ancient forests over the thousands of years of their realm.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Tree-huggin' hippie-stuff pt. II

Where on their island did the Númenoreans make up earlier over-exploitaion of wood?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Tree-huggin' hippie-stuff pt. II

Aldarion planted trees in the westland. It was on his journey there that he again met Erendis.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Tree-huggin' hippie-stuff pt. II

Andustar, West-land, is correct (Hyarrostar had new plantings, too).
Go on, Saulotus!

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Tree-huggin' hippie-stuff pt. II

Ok; The Elves gave at least 9 species of trees to the Numenoreans as gifts; name those that are known.

Due to request from RKittle: answers are found in UT and HISTORY.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Tree-huggin' hippie-stuff pt. II

Mallorn, Laurinque, oiolaire, lairelosse, nessamelda, vardarianna, taniquelasse, yavannamire.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Tree-huggin' hippie-stuff pt. II

Mallorn is 1

Laurinque is not.
UT states that it was a mistaken belief that the tree was brought in seed by the Eldar (and named in honor of Laurelin from its descriptions).

Oiolaire is 2
Lairelosse is 3
Nessamelda is 4
Vardarianna is 5
Taniquelasse is 6
Yavannamire is 7

There are at least 2 other species (one of them can still be found in UT).

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Tree-huggin' hippie-stuff pt. II

At least two others are:

A seedling of Nimloth, and Lavaralda (found in Lost Road; Numenorean chapters).

Ask or assign a question here.

I hereby resign from this thread.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Tree-huggin' hippie-stuff pt. II

Who made the first scar on the Two Trees?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Tree-huggin' hippie-stuff pt. II

Morgoth first struck the two trees with his black spear.


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Re: Carnil

I doff my hat to you, sir. Ask us!

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Re: Carnil

Ok, then.

Who slew Leod?


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Leod

Felarof the horse who he was trying to tame.

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Re: Leod

Correct, Red.

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Handir

Who killed Handir?

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Re: Handir

Yrch, glamhoth, orcs.

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Re: Handir

Mithadan, this one is yours. Ask!

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Re: Handir

OK. Who killed Handir's son?

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Handir's son

Turin?

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Re: Handir's son

Correct. In a rage borne of grief and insanity, Turin slew Brandir. Ask on.

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Dragons?

What dragons appear in Tolkien's works and who killed each one of them?

It's not as easy as it seems <img src=tongue.gif ALT=":b"> <img src=roll.gif ALT=":rollin"> .

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Re: Dragons?

Ancalagon the Black slain by Earendil the Mariner
Smaug of Erebor slain by Bard, King in Dale
Scatha the Worm slain by Fram, King of the Eothed
Glaurung Father of Dragons slain by Turin Turmabar in Teiglin

More dragons appear in Tolkien's works, such as those who assailed the Dwarves of the Grey Mountains, and those who helped Acalagon in the assault upon Vingilot; but they are not named and their banes arenot mentioned.

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Re: dragons

Well, there is no doubt that your answer is correct, but it is incomplete as well. I wanted to know ALL the dragons whose names are mentioned in Tolkien's works. It seems that you've forgotten that Tolkien it's not only Middle-Earth, and he also wrote some short stories where dragons also appear.

If Jes wants to pass you the turn, I'll agree, but I consider it's better to give the complete answer <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)"> .

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Re: dragons

So I've named all the Middle-Earth ones?

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Re: dragons

Of course you did. Well done.

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Re: dragons

And can I ask? I don't think anyone will be able to name the other dragons Tolkien invented; at least I can't.

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Re: dragons

Wait two days, if nobody has posted the complete answer, I'll give it and it will be your turn. OK?

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Re: dragons

Okay.

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Re: dragons

Crysophylax was the dragon who appeared in &quot;Farmer Giles of Ham&quot;, one of Tolkien´s short stories. It wasn't killed, but was defeated by Master Aegidius (Farmer Giles).
This thread it's all yours, Gwaihir.

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Re: dragons

By whom was Glaurung, father of Dragons, first defeated?

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for the Realm of Sauron is ended for ever,
and the Dark Tower is thrown down.'
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Re: dragons

You like dragons, don't you Gwaihir? I was going to say the Dwarves of Belegost did, but I am not sure if it was even them or the Dwarves of Nogrod that battled with Gluarung. Then I realized that was not the first time Gluarung issued from Angband. Fingon and his archers is the answer I believe you are looking for my good man.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: dragons

D's turn!

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Elessar bore this only on special occasions and on high days. What was it?

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The Elendilmir? The one found in Orthanc.

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You are very correct Grond. Now it is your turn to ask again.

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Where did Grond go?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: dragons

Sorry, It's been impossible for me to connect these days.
Here's my question:

As far as I know, Tolkien only repeats one phrase in LOTR, what phrase is it?



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It's what those ferocious lil dwarves say when going into battle isn't it?

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: dragons

That's not the one I remembered, but if you can give us some more information, I'll give you the turn.

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It is probably some little thing that I am over looking. I don't really feel like looking back in the books so someone else should take a guess.

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It seems that a clue it's needed. The phrase I'm looking for it's said twice, and both times in The Return of the King.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: dragons

There's more than one. One is &quot;Grond crawled on&quot;. The second is a few paragraphs later, &quot; In rode the Lord of the Nazgul...&quot; I suspect there are many more, though the two above were clearly repeated intentionally for stylistic reasons.

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"The Silmarils with living light
were kindled clear, and waxing bright
shone like stars that in the North
above the reek of earth leap forth." </p>

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: dragons

I was looking for this phrase: &quot;But it was no orc-chieftain or brigand that led the assault upon Gondor.&quot;, which was also clearly repeated intencionally for stylistic and enphatic reasons (it's repeated in two different chapters, the second time as the first phrase in 6th chapter).
Your proposals were correct as well, Mithadan. Ask away.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: dragons

What is the name of the wall around the Pelennor?

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were kindled clear, and waxing bright
shone like stars that in the North
above the reek of earth leap forth." </p>

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Rammas Echor

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Re: dragons

Correct H.I. Proceed.

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shone like stars that in the North
above the reek of earth leap forth." </p>

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Re: dragons

This river had two tributary branches, and both (as well as the main river itself) were called equally (the difference was in adjectives). So what was the name?

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Re: dragons

Gelion?

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Re: dragons

right. your turn to shoot

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Re: dragons

Upon what river was built Menegroth?

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Re: dragons

Esgalduin.
[quote}Where the Esgalduin flowed down, and parted Neldoreth from Region, there rose in the midst of the forest a rocky hill, and the river ran at its feet. There they made the gates of the hall[/quote]

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Re: dragons

Correct. Carry on.

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Re: dragons

name the butler of Thranduil's hall

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Re: dragons

The butler's name was Galion.

And with this post I shall become a Wright. Or is it the next one?



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Re: dragons

next one indeed <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

BTW, you are right, go ahead

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Re: dragons

Where was the Ship of Long Foam?


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Re: dragons

it was an isle in Anduin the Greai (Cair Andros)

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Re: dragons

Correct! Ask away.


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Re: dragons

ok than. who are the banakil

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Re: Banakil

Banakil is another name for Hobbits...it means halfling. :) I think it's Westron, but I can't be sure.

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Re: Banakil

Banakil is another name for Hobbits...it means halfling. <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)"> I think it's Westron, but I can't be sure.

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Re: Banakil

correct. Go for it, your turn <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Names

Thanks. Continuing with names and their alternatives: who was Adanadhel and what does the name mean? Even better, who gave the name?

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Re: Names

AdanEdhel was a name given to Turin in Nargothrond, meaning Elf-Man <img src=rolleyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes">

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YUp

Corrrrrect. Asssk!

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Re: YUp

this lament was maid by Maglor, who grieved th fall of the noldor. name the lament

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Re: YUp

Noldolante.

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Re: YUp

correct. ask away

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Re: YUp

Gwaihir?

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Re: YUp

Gollum had six ___.

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Re: YUp

teeth.

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Re: YUp

'Teeth! teeth! my precious, but we has only six!' Ask away.

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Re: YUp

Give three different names for Orome save this one!

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Re: YUp

Araw, Aladaron, Tauron.

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Re: YUp

Yep (plus Bóme)!
Go on!

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Re: YUp

I like the pic, Sharku. It fits in very well with your title, the Hungry Ghoul.

Let's see... Name four Maiar who are nigh as powerful as the Valar themselves.

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Maiar

Well...Eonwe always stood out as important, being in my mind as strong as the lesser Valar; the herald of Manwe and the leader of the Host of the Valar. Saruman was the most powerful Istari, even if he did become evil; Osse seems fairly powerful, ravaging the coasts, and Ulmo apparently has no control over him. And then who could forget Sauron himself, the Second Dark Lord. Who almost became more powerful than Morgoth in his glory; and he was said to be the greatest of the Valar before his evilness. Others apart from those four could include Gothmog and Ariel, both powerful fire Spirits; Gandalf and Melian.

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Re: Maiar

You could have said Ungoloiant also.

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Re: Maiar

I wouldn't say that Saruman was nearly a Vala. Nor was he the most powerful Istar. Gandalf was. But Eonwe and Osse are of course correct, and I'll accept Melian. And who could forget Sauron. Yes, ask away.

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Ok

Thanks. Re: Istar: Their skills lay in different areas. Saruman's was in craft and voice; While Gandalf was more thought and leadership, I suppose. Anyway. <img src=rolleyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"> On the topic of Valar: Name the spouses of the 'brothers' Namo and Irmo.

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Re: Ok

Vairë, the weaver of stories, and Estë the healer

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Yup

That is correct. Even the little accents. Continue, D!

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Re: Yup

What year did the Great Plague appear?

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Plagues

c. 1636 Third Age. We seem to be into year type questions now. <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Re: Plagues

I guess so, correct, e.

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Hmm

Thanks. Partly because I can't be bothered figuring out a question, and because I would like to stick with the year theme because I'm a boring and very un-creative person. <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)"> When was 'pipe weed' first planted?

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Please!

Anyone? All you have to do is look in Appendix B. Planted by Tobold...in the Southfarthing.

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Re: Please!

2670 T.A.

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Yep!

Absolutely correct! Continue, H-I.

- enep</p>

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Re: Yep!

ok, give me all the names of a maia called Olorin in the west. (their meanings would be appreciated too)

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Re: Yep!

o jeez, I know all the names, but i can't think of the meaning for, well just one. Still I don't really feel like looking it up.

It seems fate is not without a sense of irony.</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000045>Durelen</A> at: 2/14/01 2:50:42 pm

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Re: Yep!

ok, forget the meanings <img src=ohwell.gif ALT=":\">

<a href=http://www.geocities.com/gl_century/HerenIstarion.html>HerenIstarion</a> ...without the high and noble the simple and vulgar is utterly mean; and without the simple and ordinary the noble and heroic is meaningless...</p>

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Re: Yep!

Gandalf, Mithrandir, Olorin, tharkun, stormcrow, lathspell, oh and &quot;old fool&quot;.

--Mithadan--
"The Silmarils with living light
were kindled clear, and waxing bright
shone like stars that in the North
above the reek of earth leap forth." </p>

[Grond]

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Re: Yep!

Almost quoting Faramir when quoting Gandalf:
&quot;Mithrandir among the Elves, Tharkûn to the Dwarves; Olórin I was in my youth in the West that is forgotten, in the South Incánus, in the North Gandalf; to the East I go not.&quot;
Mithrandir -&gt; grey Pilgrim.
Incánus -&gt; spy from the North.
Gandalf -&gt; elf with a staff.
I don't know what does Tharkûn mean, but, since the dwarves didn't teach his language to anybody...

</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000121>Grond</A> at: 2/14/01 3:41:55 pm

[Grond]

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Re: Yep!

Sorry Mithadan, I didn't see your answer.

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Re: Yep!

excellent, Grond. You made a pit in the ground, and a sparkling tongue of flame spread out of it. ok, your turn

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Re: Yep!

Who were the spacialists making fires in The Hobbit?

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Re: Yep!

Oin and Gloin?


-Voronwë
<font size="2">"For Aldarion had become enamoured of the Great Sea, and of a ship riding there alone without sight of land, borne by the winds with foam at its throat to coasts and havens unguessed; and that love and desire never left him until his life's end."</p>

[Grond]

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Re: Yep!

Yep. Carry on.

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[Grond]

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Re: Yep!

I haven't seen Voronwe for a long while. Maybe someone should ask a question here.

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Re: Yep!

I nominate you, Grond, to ask the next question please <img src=tongue.gif ALT=":b">


The Road goes ever on and on </p>

[Grond]

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Re: Yep!

I can't think of any better question:
Who was Sorontar?

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Re: Yep!

King of the eagles. Another name for Thorondor it seems.

Thus even as Eru spoke to us shall beauty not before conceived be brought into Eä, and evil be good to have been.</p>

[Grond]

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Re: Yep!

Correct. Ask us, Durelen.

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When it happens it happens

How long brfor somebody asks a question on this tread???
or can I ask one? Proberly not...

Anyway I love you quizgame on this board - furious that I havent found the borrowdowns sooner - but I'll do my best to bust your minds :-)

Cheers Telchar

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Re: Yep!

On the gandalf question earlier:
Tharkûn means &quot;Staff-man&quot;
And Gandalf is in UT translated &quot;Elf-of-the-wand&quot;

If it has any interest???

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Re: Yep!

Hmm, I seem to have left one. Sorry for the wait. Who was Voronda?

Thus even as Eru spoke to us shall beauty not before conceived be brought into Eä, and evil be good to have been.</p>

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Re: Yep!

Was that the elf who liked to sit on his back porch?

Or it was the moniker of Elendil, meaning &quot;faithful&quot;.


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[Orald]

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Re: Yep!

I was thinking of Elendil when I asked this question. Your turn.

Thus even as Eru spoke to us shall beauty not before conceived be brought into Eä, and evil be good to have been.</p>

[Odysseus819]

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Re: Yep!

Name two people in JRRT who are depicted playing a harp.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Yep!

Thorin, and the Minstrel at the Field of Cormallen?

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[Odysseus819]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Yep!

You're good, Beregond. I was thinking of Thorin and Felagund but I'm pretty sure you're right about the unnamed minstrel. In fact, didn't he do some stand-up comedy too?

OK you ask.

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[Beregond]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Yep!

<img src=biggrin.gif ALT=":D">

I have a riddle:

I may be Scary, but no one is scared of me.

Who, what, where is it?

<img src=cool.gif ALT="8)">

</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000114>Beregond</A> at: 5/1/01 1:43:20 pm

[Telchar]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Yep!

Thats no good Beregond - that could be any of us - You, me, Odysseus, Durelen - anyboyd really!

Well I haven't got a clue *S*

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Yep!

I'm guessing it's an elf or dwarf or ent whose name means &quot;Scary&quot; in elvish or dwarvish or entish. Or else it's Telchar.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Yep!

Is Scary a place in the Shire? I seem to remember that Fatty Bolger led a band of rebels against the ruffians there.


-Voronwë
<font size="2">Down the sunlit breath of Day's fiery death
He sped from Westerland.</p>

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Yep!

Voronwe is correct! Scary is a place in the Shire, and as far as I know, no one is scared of it. <img src=biggrin.gif ALT=":D">

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Yep!

What was the name of Erendis' father?


-Voronwë
<font size="2">Down the sunlit breath of Day's fiery death
He sped from Westerland.</p>

[red]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Yep!

Beregar.

-réd

<blockquote><font size=2>

"He was as noble and as fair in face as an elf-lord, as strong as a warrior, as wise as a wizard, as venerable as a king of dwarves, and as kind as summer."</p>

-A Short Rest, The Hobbit</p></blockquote></p>

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Yep!

Correct!


-Voronwë
<font size="2">Down the sunlit breath of Day's fiery death
He sped from Westerland.</p>

[red]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Yep!

What is the name of Gwaihir's brother?

-réd

<blockquote><font size=2>

"He was as noble and as fair in face as an elf-lord, as strong as a warrior, as wise as a wizard, as venerable as a king of dwarves, and as kind as summer."</p>

-A Short Rest, The Hobbit</p></blockquote></p>

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Yep!

Landroval?

"....he was a rengade, who came of the race of those that are named the Black Numenoreans....." "The Corsairs of Umbar!" men shouted. "The Corsairs of Umbar are coming!.......The Corsairs are upon us! It is the last stroke of doom!" </p>

[red]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Yep!

You betcha.

-réd

<blockquote><font size=2>

"He was as noble and as fair in face as an elf-lord, as strong as a warrior, as wise as a wizard, as venerable as a king of dwarves, and as kind as summer."</p>

-A Short Rest, The Hobbit</p></blockquote></p>

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Yep!

What is asea aranion?

"....he was a rengade, who came of the race of those that are named the Black Numenoreans....." "The Corsairs of Umbar!" men shouted. "The Corsairs of Umbar are coming!.......The Corsairs are upon us! It is the last stroke of doom!" </p>

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Yep!

Kingsfoil, athelas in the Ancient Tongue.

'I heed no call of clamant bell that rings / Iron-tongued in the towers of earthly kings. / Here on the stones and trees there lies a spell / Of unforgotten loss, of memory more blest / Than mortal wealth...'</p>

[Commodore 7]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Yep!

Yes, that would be correct, Sharku.

"....he was a rengade, who came of the race of those that are named the Black Numenoreans....." "The Corsairs of Umbar!" men shouted. "The Corsairs of Umbar are coming!.......The Corsairs are upon us! It is the last stroke of doom!" </p>

[Sharkû]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Yep!

How did the Balrog change when it had fallen into the waters beneath the Bridge of Khazad-Dûm?

'I heed no call of clamant bell that rings / Iron-tongued in the towers of earthly kings. / Here on the stones and trees there lies a spell / Of unforgotten loss, of memory more blest / Than mortal wealth...'</p>

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Off the top of my head...

Were its fires extinguished?

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Re: Off the top of my head...

That was one thing, but as a result, it also changed...

'I heed no call of clamant bell that rings / Iron-tongued in the towers of earthly kings. / Here on the stones and trees there lies a spell / Of unforgotten loss, of memory more blest / Than mortal wealth...'</p>

[Telchar]

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Re: Off the top of my head...

&quot;.... but he was now a thing of slime, stronger than a strangling snake.&quot;

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Re: Off the top of my head...

That is logically right <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

'I heed no call of clamant bell that rings / Iron-tongued in the towers of earthly kings. / Here on the stones and trees there lies a spell / Of unforgotten loss, of memory more blest / Than mortal wealth...'</p>

[Telchar]

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Re: Off the top of my head...

What is Menelya?

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Re: Off the top of my head...

Is it a star?

"....he was a rengade, who came of the race of those that are named the Black Numenoreans....." "The Corsairs of Umbar!" men shouted. "The Corsairs of Umbar are coming!.......The Corsairs are upon us! It is the last stroke of doom!" </p>

[Telchar]

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Re: Off the top of my head...

No, it is not a star! Although the name implies something of that sought <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

<img src=smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"> Telchar

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[Telchar]

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Re: Carnil

Surely some of you can solve this????

Anar kaluva tielyanna!</p>