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Odysseus819

02-28-2001, 09:16 AM

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A new question (I asked this in another thread but I was out of turn):

Everyone probably remembers the scene in Bilbo's room after the Council of Elrond, when Bilbo jokes with Gandalf that he (G.) had been surprised at the news that Gollum had escaped, and G. says with typical arrogance that he knew all about it, was the only one at the Council who was not surprised by anything, etc. etc. But what was reported to Gandalf at the Council that DID greatly surprise him?

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Odysseus819

03-02-2001, 07:18 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

No guesses?

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The Barrow-Wight

03-02-2001, 09:05 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

I even pulled out the book on this one, skimming through this very long chapter. And I still couldn't figure it out. If someone doesn't answer soon, I'm going to have to read the chapter correctly!

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HerenIstarion

03-02-2001, 12:03 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

maybe he was surpised by information provided by Boromir, concerning knowledge still preserved in the South, though lost in the North, that Isildur returned from Mordor to Minas Tirith first. Still, I doubt he was surprised greatly enough to count my answer true <img src=ohwell.gif ALT=":\">

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Odysseus819

03-02-2001, 12:47 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard -- Clarification

RK's post had me worried that I had mis-remembered, so I went back and checked. There WAS something told to Gandalf at the Council at which the wizard "paused astonshed". That is what my question refers to.

P.s. I suppose this is a truly trivial trivia Q, but I have always been amused by Gandalf's (suposedly a sort of demi-god, right?) all-too-human conceit. E..g. when he reports to Frodo how Elrond swamped the ringwraiths, and insists on adding that he (Gandalf) played a part too.

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HerenIstarion

03-02-2001, 12:59 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard -- Clarification

aiye, i've found it, you tricksie <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">
he was astonished when Frodo declared he saw him walking at the top of Orthank's, and reamined so until it was declared to have been a dream. <img src=roll.gif ALT=":rollin">

*edit* about his human behavior - after all, he was clothed in human hroa, so had all it's weaknesse inherited too

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Odysseus819

03-02-2001, 01:34 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard -- Clarification

You got it, H-I.

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HerenIstarion

03-02-2001, 01:49 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard -- Clarification

as I understand, this thread will concern Gandalf only?

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Odysseus819

03-02-2001, 02:10 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

I didn't think about it, but that's not a bad idea, also it's right up your alley. So let's hear some olorin lore.

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HerenIstarion

03-03-2001, 03:58 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

allright then. I'll start with an easy one. who gave Gandalf his ring?

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Sharkû

03-03-2001, 06:37 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Círdan sensed that Gandalf was the wisest of the Istari when they arrived, and so he gave him Narya.

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HerenIstarion

03-03-2001, 08:21 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

correct. proceed.

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Sharkû

03-04-2001, 04:28 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Who led the Èothéod into the likewise named land at the springs of Anduin?

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Michael Martinez

03-05-2001, 03:35 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Can I play? <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Odysseus819

03-05-2001, 07:12 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Of course -- new players are always welcome. The rules are; the person who answers the current question correctly (as acknowledged by the person who asked it), continues the thread by asking the next question. Or, you can start a new topic if you want to pose a new trivia question to the group.

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Orald

03-05-2001, 10:21 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

This one isn't in UT is it? Hmm, digging digging...

It seems fate is not without a sense of irony.</p>

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03-05-2001, 11:37 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

The answer is Frumgar. You can find two references to him in The Lord of the Rings: first, in the section of Appendix A which deals with "The House of Eorl"; later, in Appendix B, under the entry for TA 1977.

Okay, here is an easy one <WEG>.

Who was Rimbedir?

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03-07-2001, 10:03 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

I suppose that was a bit too obscure. Since I'm traveling right now and don't know when I'll get back online again, I'll go ahead and provide the answer.

Rimbedir was an Elvish name Tolkien proposed to himself for Trotter (the Hobbit ranger in the early versions of The Lord of the Rings who was eventually replaced by Strider the Dunadan ranger). I don't have the source handy but it was either The Return of the Shadow or The Treason of Isengard.

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Mister Underhill

03-08-2001, 05:35 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

I'll step into the breach here, since we have a question asked and answered.

Which member of the original fellowship did Gandalf say would not be able to enter Moria?

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Orald

03-08-2001, 10:20 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

single member, if i do it by race then it can't be the hobbits, since that is four, can't be Aragorn or Boromir so that narrows it down to Gimli and Legolas. Fifty-Fifty here, hmm...(Durelen flips a coin) ok, Legolas?

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Falmar

03-08-2001, 10:34 PM

Mister Underhill

03-09-2001, 12:24 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Good try Durelen, but Falmar was the one thinking outside the box. Good one! Your turn, F!

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Falmar

03-09-2001, 12:31 PM

Odysseus819

03-09-2001, 08:11 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Hmmm is right. In "Shadow of the Past" it says "Next morning after a late breakfast, the wizard was sitting with Frodo by the open window of the study" but it doesn't specifically say that Gandalf ate.

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Falmar

03-09-2001, 10:08 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

There is actually at least one occasion where Gandalf is has something to eat, it even describes what he is eating.

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Odysseus819

03-10-2001, 06:48 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Yes that rings a bell but I can't quite remember it -- which means it's a good question. I'll have to ponder . . .

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HerenIstarion

03-10-2001, 11:09 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

there are more than one- first at Bilbo's, when he's asking the hobbit to bring chicken and eggs. Second (and that's whem he's actually eating) <u>at Beorn's, where very hungry wizard eats bread and honey</u> and only after that explains his absence to Bilbo and dwarves. + there were feast at Elronds, Miruvor at Caradhras, firs stage of Bilbo's journey when Gandalf is reported to eat the most, talk the most and laugh the most an so on <img src=roll.gif ALT=":rollin">

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Falmar

03-10-2001, 01:27 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Beorn's House was what I was looking for. Your turn HerenIstarian.

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HerenIstarion

03-11-2001, 06:17 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

according to Gandalf, the trade of this product of industry was characterised by 'at the door' delivery

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Beregond

03-27-2001, 01:24 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Fireworks?

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HerenIstarion

03-31-2001, 02:55 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

nope I deem, Gandalf never managed such an industry, he just mentioned the trade of it's profuction

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Amandil

04-07-2001, 05:13 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Well, when Bilbo tries to shoo Gandalf away, Gandalf shoots back, "To think that I should have lived to be good-morninged by Belladonna Took's son, as if I was selling buttons at the door!" Buttons, we guesses! Yes, Yes!

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Odysseus819

05-09-2001, 11:25 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Heren Istarion? Is Amandil right? I started this thread so I don't want it to die!

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HerenIstarion

05-11-2001, 06:14 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

Buttons, ye, buttons is correct, it gues-s-s-ssed, it guess-s-sed! <img src=devil.gif ALT=":evil"> . proceed, and sorry to be late <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Amandil

05-12-2001, 11:25 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

What kind of wood was Gandalf the White's staff made of?

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HerenIstarion

05-13-2001, 06:23 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Hmmm

it was ashen

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Amandil

05-14-2001, 06:16 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Gandalf the White's staff

It guessssssed!!!
Ash is the answer!
You are correct H-I.

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GandaIf The White

05-21-2001, 07:54 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Gandalf the White's staff

H-I doesnt seem to be answering, so I think I will ask a question.

Why did Galadriel give Gandalf a new staff?

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HerenIstarion

05-22-2001, 01:28 AM

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cause the one he used before was broken on the bridge of Khazad Dum in encounter with Balrog

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05-22-2001, 07:35 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: cause

Sorry I was so rude to take your question away from you <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)"> Telchar has lectured me, so I wont be doing it again. So, your turn H-I.

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HerenIstarion

05-27-2001, 10:31 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: cause

what was the item(s) (in connection with Gandalf) mostly remembered by Bilbo at their first (after hobbit's coming of age) encounter?

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red

05-27-2001, 04:50 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> 5000!!

Just wanted to be the 5000th post in the Quiz Forum. hee hee!! <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

-réd

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"He was as noble and as fair in face as an elf-lord, as strong as a warrior, as wise as a wizard, as venerable as a king of dwarves, and as kind as summer."</p>

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Falmar

05-27-2001, 07:54 PM

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Seeing how they are exploding before my very eyes, the answer must be 'fireworks'.

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HerenIstarion

05-28-2001, 11:34 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: cause

they are, thogh to firework you may apply even a word "event" . In fact I'm looking for a slightly different answer - a proper "item" <img src=rolleyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes">

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05-28-2001, 02:22 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: cause

The pair of magic diamond studs given to the Old Took, The tales he told, The fireworks, and the Adventures. Im pretty sure that covers everything.

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HerenIstarion

05-30-2001, 04:29 PM

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studs were enough,really. go ahead

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GandaIf The White

05-30-2001, 06:49 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> For the Dwarves.

Why did Gandalf break the bridge in Moria?

P.S. I may be wrong, but I think that there was a good reason for it. (If not many <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)"> )

"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000064>GandaIf The White</A> at: 5/30/01 8:54:40 pm

The Watcher in the Water

05-30-2001, 07:19 PM

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Gandalf broke the bridge to send the Balrog (AKA Durin's Bane) into the abyss it spanned... thats the only reason i can think off... unless he had the thought in the back of his mind that if it didnt sink the Balrog then at least the other creatures behind couldnt get across... <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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GandaIf The White

05-31-2001, 05:21 PM

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That is why I didnt think I should have asked that question. I didnt want to turn down people for good guesses, so I will give it to you Watcher.

The real reason I was thinking of was because he did not want Aragorn and Boromir (And maybe Legolas too) to try and come and help him. I remembered reading that they were running up to help and that is when Gandalf broke the bridge. So I always thought that he did it not only to keep the orcs from coming and to kill the Balrog, but also to save his freinds from trying to fight the foe that would kill them if they tried.

"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."</p>

The Watcher in the Water

05-31-2001, 06:49 PM

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I can definately see where you are coming from with your theory... when i think about it, it seems to make the most sense!

Anyhow...

What was the old name of Lorien as told by Fangorn to Merry and Pippin, and what did it mean when translated?

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Telchar

05-31-2001, 11:55 PM

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Laurelindórinan

Laur=Gold
elin=Song
dor=Land
nan=Valley

Land of The Valley of Singing Gold

Anar kaluva tielyanna!</p>

The Watcher in the Water

06-01-2001, 12:41 AM

Telchar

06-01-2001, 01:34 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

What people/contry of our world inspired Tolkien when he created the Gondorians? (People of Gondor)
Im thinking inspiration conserning tradition and style of clothing.

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HerenIstarion

06-02-2001, 02:51 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Byzantium? For there are several similar lines, it seems to me

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Telchar

06-03-2001, 04:15 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Yes, H-I there are. But it was not the civilication Tolkien thought of.

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Maglor68

06-04-2001, 10:21 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> No Clue

Holy Roman Empire?

- Maglor

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Telchar

06-04-2001, 10:52 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Nope... think of the crown of Gondor (and modify it a little)

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Odysseus819

06-05-2001, 04:55 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Greek? (My answer for everything)

By practice taught, I have learned patience, having much endured By tempest and in battle both. Come then This evil also! I am well prepared.</p>

Telchar

06-05-2001, 05:07 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Nope! How did they burrie their kings? that might lead you on...

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Maglor68

06-05-2001, 05:34 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Gondor

Ancient Israel?

- Maglor

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Telchar

06-05-2001, 05:44 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Actually I dont know how kings were burried in ancient Israel. It was not what I was thinking of though JRRT said that the monoteist ancient Israel was the place that resembled Gondorian tradition on religion closest.
Think: Crown + burial <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

Anar kaluva tielyanna!</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000018>Telchar</A> at: 6/5/01 7:46:43 am

Beregond

06-05-2001, 08:41 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

The ancient Egyptians?

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Beregond

06-05-2001, 09:16 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

No, the egyptians didn't have crowns.

Would it be the Anglo-Saxons?

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Maglor68

06-05-2001, 01:53 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Obvious Answers

Okay - I avoided these answers because I thought that they were too obvious, but clearly it must be one of them:

Romans or Romano-Britains
Normans
Franks

Is it one of these?

- Maglor

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GandaIf The White

06-05-2001, 05:37 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

The Soviet Union? <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

Who is it.. this is not fun.

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Telchar

06-05-2001, 11:23 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

No No - Beregond - You got it rigth! I was a astonished too! It is the ancient egyptians.

For one thing the Faraos wore a high helmlike thingy very much alike to the crown of Gondor - just without the wings - And the Gondorians was very obsessed with tombs and they embalmed their Kings.
Tolkien wrote this in a letter to a woman who asked, among other things, about the design of the crown of Gondor. In the letter he also made a sketch drawing of the crown <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

<img src=smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"> So go on Beregond

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Beregond

06-06-2001, 10:53 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Who would have known? <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

What was the birth-name of Falastur?

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Telchar

06-06-2001, 11:51 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Tarannon - The first of the Ship Kings and also the first childless king.

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Beregond

06-08-2001, 12:21 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Absolutely!

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Telchar

06-10-2001, 08:27 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

What date was Bilbo/Frodos birthday?

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GandaIf The White

06-10-2001, 04:13 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

September 22nd..

"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."</p>

Telchar

06-10-2001, 11:40 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Ohh Yes - Go on <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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GandaIf The White

06-10-2001, 11:57 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

According to Gandalf, what does a wizard need one or two of?

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Telchar

06-11-2001, 12:48 AM

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hobbits

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GandaIf The White

06-11-2001, 02:00 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Yes, that line by Pippin made me actually laugh.. <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)"> I still like it. Go on, Telchar.

"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."</p>

Telchar

06-12-2001, 01:17 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

how old was Aragorn when he died?

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Beregond

06-12-2001, 04:19 AM

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I seem to remember 180

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Telchar

06-12-2001, 04:37 AM

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you remember wrong - Sorry

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Grond

06-12-2001, 02:54 PM

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200 years.

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GandaIf The White

06-12-2001, 04:50 PM

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I remember reading it, but I cant seem to find the page. I forget the exact age, but I will guess 214 years.

"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."</p>

Beregond

06-12-2001, 07:20 PM

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203?

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Telchar

06-12-2001, 11:21 PM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Shock the Wizard

Somebody is a little above, others a little below - Aragorn reached a somewhat "round" number years and laid himself to die on his birthday (marts 1) ... (SR 1541) need more help???? - you wont get it <img src=laugh.gif ALT=":lol">

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Odysseus819

06-13-2001, 06:13 AM

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210

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Telchar

06-13-2001, 06:15 AM

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Ohh yes - go on Odyseus819

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Beregond

06-13-2001, 06:23 AM

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210. He was born in TA 2931, and died in FO 120. If the new age started in 3021, that would make him 210.

EDIT: Beat me to it! <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Telchar

06-18-2001, 04:14 AM

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Odysseus ?

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Odysseus819

06-18-2001, 04:52 AM

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Sorry.

From which three different places do the orcs who capture Merry and Pippin come?

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Telchar

06-18-2001, 05:07 AM

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Mordor, Isengard and the Misty Mountains

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06-20-2001, 05:14 AM

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Since asking the question, I can't find the reference, although I thought it was Mirkwood rather than the Misty Mts. But since I can't prove you're not right, you take it Telchar. If you find the Misty Mts. reference let me know.

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Telchar

06-20-2001, 06:19 AM

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<blockquote>Quote:<hr> From the Uruk-Hai - TT:
'But what are we going to do at sunrise?' said some of the Notherners.
'Go on running' said uglúk. 'What do you think? Sit on the grass and wait for the whiteskins to join the picnic?'
'But we cant run in the sunlight.'
'You'll run with me behind you,' said uglúk. 'Run! Or you'll never see your beloved holes again. By the White Hand! What's the use of sending out mountain-maggots on a trip, only half trained for...<hr></blockquote>

At the moment I can'f find any other reference. Notherners, called mountain-maggots could be from both places, but most likely (I think) from the Misty Mountains... as Im sure I've read elsewhere...

Anyway: What did men call Eärendils ship Vingilot?

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06-20-2001, 07:42 AM

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Did men call it 'Foam-Flower'?

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Grond

06-20-2001, 01:25 PM

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Rothinzil? Earrame?

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06-20-2001, 07:02 PM

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yeah Rothinzil rings bells as well....

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Telchar

06-21-2001, 01:26 AM

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You put me in a dilemma guys!

Foam-Flower is the Westron translation of Anduniac Rothinzil. The latter being the name i sought. BtW Erramë was the ship Tour buildt and sailed West in with Idril.

So you're both rigth - the first one of you, who read this can ask the next question <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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The Watcher in the Water

06-21-2001, 07:36 PM

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How many times was a member of the Company of the Ring injured, from their departure from Imladris to the Destruction of the Ring?

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Telchar

06-21-2001, 11:40 PM

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12 - the little guys as usual took the main abuse - 9 hobbit injuries

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06-22-2001, 02:19 AM

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That was indeed the number I came up with...

Proceed!

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Telchar

06-22-2001, 04:12 AM

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how was Kili related to Thorin

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06-22-2001, 05:03 AM

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He, together with his brother fili, was the son of Thorin's sister Dis

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Telchar

06-22-2001, 06:04 AM

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Correct - go on...

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06-22-2001, 12:27 PM

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Hmm, *ponders a question* Ahh, of course, my name<img src=smile.gif ALT=":)"> where lies Glornan, and what is a more common name for it?(Note: you can only find it in UT<img src=smile.gif ALT=":)"> )

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