Valar Trivia

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Questions about Valar
Who's Ulmo? <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">


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The lord of waters

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Yeah, you're right Telchar! That was my little brother, he hasn't even read the hobbit. He just wanted to post here! <img src=rolleyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes">

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Who is the brother of Irmo?

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Namo Mandos!

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[Telchar]

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Yes - OK lets thoughen it up a little <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Who is the Spouse of Namo?

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Vairë the Weaver.

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Yeah! <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Who is the spouse of Tulkas and whose sister is she?

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Nessa the sister of Oromë.

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Yep <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Which of the Valar was the brother of Manwë in the mind of Iluvatar?

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Melkor!

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Correct!

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Name all 7 female Valar!

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Varda, Yavanna, Nienna, Estë, Varië Vána, Nessa

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Yay! That's correct!

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[Telchar]

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Which Vala did Celegorm mostly follow in Valinor?

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Oromë?

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[Telchar]

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YES!!!


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Valar questions seem to be pretty easy, so I'm asking a three-parter:

a. Which 3 of the Valar were most often away from Valinor during the beginning of days?

b. Which of the Valar aided the prayer of Melkor when he sought release from the fastness of Mandos?

c. What was &quot;the greatest of all the works of the Valar since their coming into Arda&quot;?

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a. Orome, Yavanna, Ulmo
b. Aule?
c. The two trees? <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">


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[Telchar]

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a: Yavanna, Ulmo, Orome
b: Nienna
c: Vardas making of the Stars?

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a. Yavanna, Orome, Ulmo
b. Manwe
c. The Hiding of Valinor?

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The Dwarf Smith Got it !

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SURPRISE!!!

Who made the horns of Ulmo?

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Salmar -- whoever HE is.

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[Telchar]

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Salmar was a Maiar, and like Ossë and Unien he was in the following of Ulmo - Go on Ody

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Manwë, Varda, Taniquetil.

What's the connection????

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ehhh - they live there??

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It's a little harder than that !!

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bluepal.jpg" align=absmiddle> Manwë, Varda, Taniquetil

I guess I shd give a little hint. These two Valar and the holy mountain were named in sequence in a certain speech from the Silmarillion. How were they named, and what was the speech?

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[Telchar]

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The Oath of Fëanor rings a bell...

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bluepal.jpg" align=absmiddle> Yep

You got it, Telchar. These were the 3 named by Fëanor as &quot;witnesses&quot; to his Oath.

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[Telchar]

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bluepal.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Yep

Who doesn'y fit?

Varda
Mandos
Nienna
Aulë


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[obloquy]

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Nienna because she has no mate.

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[Telchar]

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Yep! <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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[obloquy]

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Who (of the Valar) made the final ruling on the issue of the sundered marriage of Finwe and Miriel?

Bonus: Briefly explain what he decided.

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[obloquy]

Ooo, maybe we've got a tough one now, eh?

[Elenhin]

Manwe made the final decision, with authority given to him by Iluvatar.

He decided that none of the Eldar may have two living spouses. Finwe was allowed to remarry only if Miriel wished to stay in Mandos until the end of Arda.

[obloquy]

Hrm...My understanding is that it was Mandos' decision that stood.

[ September 23, 2001: Message edited by: obloquy ]

[obloquy]

Go ahead, Elenhin. You were close since Manwe was the one who declared Mandos the judge of the matter. And I gave it away already. :P

[Elenhin]

Well, I answered without checking the books, so I guess your answer is more correct than mine smilies/smile.gif

But, if you say I got close enough:
Of what deed of the Valar did Tolkien say that 'it came near to countering Morgoth in his own way', and that it had a 'selfish or neglectful' motive?

[Telchar]

That they called the Elves to Valinor??? smilies/tongue.gif

[Elenhin]

Nope - evil may have come because of the invitation, but its motive wasn't selfish or neglectful.

Try again smilies/smile.gif

[Telchar]

The hiding of Valinor??? smilies/smile.gif

[Elenhin]

Well, since it's been so long and your answer was almost the one I was looking for, you can have the next question.

What I originally meant was the lifting of the Pelori mountain chain. It was made to counter Morgoth's possessiveness with rival possessiveness and thus it was somewhat selfish (even though the exact nature of the possessiveness was different). The Valar also let Morgoth roam free in Middle-Earth in that time, so the deed can be called neglectful as well.

[Telchar]

Vala and plural Valar is quenya, but what is the Sindarin equivelant?

[Elrian]

Belain, singular Balan? smilies/confused.gif

[Telchar]

Why the sad face??? You are very much correct! smilies/smile.gif smilies/smile.gif smilies/smile.gif smilies/smile.gif smilies/smile.gif

[Elrian]

I wasn't sure I was right when I posted it. I'll put on a new face. smilies/smile.gif smilies/smile.gif smilies/smile.gif

[Telchar]

Wanna ask a new question Elrain ?? smilies/biggrin.gif

[Elrian]

It's the only one I can think of at the moment, so here goes:
Which of the Valar was best know for singing? smilies/redface.gif

[Telchar]

Would that be Este???

[Elrian]

No, not Este. smilies/smile.gif

[Turambar]

Manwë ?

[Eldar14]

I would say Melian, but she's a Maia.

[Elrian]

No, it wasn't Manwe or Melian. Good choices though.

[Elenhin]

Yavanna? (She made the Two Trees by singing, after all...)

[Turambar]

Didn't Tulkas do a good version of ""Hound Dog"? smilies/tongue.gif

[Elrian]

It was Yavannah.

[Elrian]

Originally posted by Turambar:
<STRONG>Didn't Tulkas do a good version of ""Hound Dog"? smilies/tongue.gif</STRONG>

That's the one he sang to Melkor while he was chained!!!!!

[Elrian]

Your turn Elenhin! smilies/smile.gif

[Elenhin]

What was the name of the steed of Orome?

[Telchar]

Nahar

[Turambar]

Btw, you're up in "Awakened Analogies", Telchar.

[Telchar]

Melkor and Manwe were brothers in the thought of Iluvatar, but who were the sister of the Feanturi?

[Elenhin]

Nienna.

[Telchar]

Correct - Go on Elenhin

[Elenhin]

Of whose folk was Tilion, steersman of the Moon?

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Orome. the huntsman.

[Elenhin]

Yep, go on Gwaihir smilies/smile.gif

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Which wind was not asked for tidings in Gondor?

[Telchar]

Hi GtW - A: it was the eastwind and B: you're off the topic smilies/rolleyes.gif If Im right - you ask a new Valaquestion OK? smilies/evil.gif

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Ah. Sorry. Not quite up to date with the new format of the quiz room; first time I've posted here in half a year, after all.

Which Vala befriended the Noldor most intimately?

[ November 06, 2001: Message edited by: Gwaihir the Windlord ]

[Telchar]

Aulë

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Go ahead.

[Telchar]

hmmm... Nienna is the sister of Irmo and Namo in the mind of Iluvatar. In earlier myth Nienna also had two brothers, but it was not the feanturi - who was it?

[Elenhin]

Manwe and Melko(r), if I recall correctly.

[Cirdan the Shipwright]

Was it those to M people? Makar and the other one?

- Cirdan / Maglor68

[Telchar]

Elenhin gets it - Nienna was indeed the sister of Manwe and Melko in earlier myth. go on please. smilies/smile.gif

[Elenhin]

Name the two Valar who have talked with Men.

[Cirdan the Shipwright]

Good Question.

Assuming Tuor, Beren or Earendil's mariners don't count, I would have to say

Melkor & Ulmo

- Cirdan / Maglor68

P.S. - Perhaps Mandos also spoke with Beren?

[Elrian]

Mandos and Ulmo?

[Elenhin]

Ah - I should have remembered to exclude those rare Men who had been to Valinor themselves.

Cirdan is right - Melkor spoke with Hurin (and probably others) and Ulmo spoke with Tuor.

[Cirdan the Shipwright]

Which two Valar have the most Maiar identified with them, and what are their names? (Hint - they had three 'known' Maia apiece)

For example, Nienna had one identified Maiar - Olorin.

- Cirdan / Maglor

[Elrian]

Ulmo and Aule.

[Telchar]

Ulmo: Salmar, Ossë and Unien
Orome: Tilion, Alatar and Pallando

[Cirdan the Shipwright]

Right on, Telchar. Go.

- Cirdan / Maglor68

[Telchar]

Name - AND PLEASE DONT LOOK IN THE BOOKS - 10 Maiar spirits THAT ARE NOT COUNTED AMONG THE ISTARI - it is not as hard as you think when you first get going smilies/smile.gif

[Cirdan the Shipwright]

Arien
Eonwe
Goldberry?
Gothmog
Ilmare
Melian
Osse
Salmar
Sauron
Tilion
Tom Bombadil?
Uinen
Ungoliant?

[Turambar]

Plus the Moria balrog and eth one Glorfindel slew. smilies/smile.gif

[Elrian]

Uinen
Osse
Salmar
Tilion
Eonwe
Ilmare
Arien
Melian
Sauron
Gothmog
Thuringwethil

[Telchar]

Cirdan gets it - 10 of them is clearcut - the last three (Goldberry, Tom and Ungoliath is not stated to be maiar although they might be)

[Cirdan the Shipwright]

Okay - Which of the Valar is never given any action, and indeed is the only one not mentioned again after the Valaquenta?

- Cirdan / Maglor

[Elrian]

Nessa

[Cirdan the Shipwright]

Nope - Nessa "danced upon the grass" after her wedding to Tulkas.

Any other takers?

- Cirdan / Maglor

[Elrian]

Vana

[Cirdan the Shipwright]

Getting warmer ...

- Maglor

[Turambar]

Vairë ?

[Cirdan the Shipwright]

It is Vaire indeed!

Next question please ...

[Turambar]

Which of the Valar is described in the Silmarillion as singing a song of power, and what was the result?

[Telchar]

Yavanna - the result was the growing of Two Trees

[Turambar]

Correct, Telchar. smilies/smile.gif

[Telchar]

Ezellohar, the green mound outside Valmar has another name - which is?

[Elenhin]

Corollaire?

[Telchar]

Yes - go on.

[Telchar]

Yes - go on.

[Elenhin]

What were the Valar celebrating when Melkor and Ungoliant attacked the Two Trees?

[Turambar]

Just read that, I think! smilies/smile.gif The "Gates of Summer" festival. Featuring live music (of the ainur) and 10 cent miruvar, presumably.

[Elenhin]

"Gates of Summer" was actually a name the Gondolindrim used of the feast before the start of summer. Yet your answer was right - the Valar were having a same kind of festival, a celebration of the arrival of the summer.

Go on, Turambar. smilies/smile.gif

[Turambar]

Olòrin was associated with Manwë but he learned an important trait from another of the Valar - which one and what trait?

[Elrian]

He learned pity from Nienna

[Turambar]

I gotta come up with harder questions. Right again Elrian ! smilies/biggrin.gif

[Elrian]

Who's gardens in Valinor are the source for minuvore?

[Eowyn of Ithilien]

Lorien's?????

[Elrian]

Not Lorien's.

[Androndo the Thoughtfull]

Yavanna means "Giver of fruits"... was it her?

[Elrian]

It was Yavannah, your turn Androndo! smilies/smile.gif

[Androndo the Thoughtfull]

Who was chosen by the Valar to be the Moon's pilot?
(Well... pilot is probably not the right word for it - but i think "Driver of the moon" sounds awfull)

[Telchar]

Tilion - a Bowman that followed Oromë

[Androndo the Thoughtfull]

Yes... Your turn...!

[Telchar]

What is the greatest work of the Valar in ME?

[Androndo the Thoughtfull]

Could it be the two lamps of the Valar Illuin and Ormal?

[Androndo the Thoughtfull]

Could it be the two lamps of the Valar Illuin and Ormal?

[Telchar]

NO - This thing was made by one of them alone.

[Bruce MacCulloch]

Varda's making of the stars.

[Telchar]

Correct - Proceed, please smilies/smile.gif

[Bruce MacCulloch]

Easy one, here.
Who or what are Yavanna's children?

[Telchar]

I'll venture the olvar and the kelvar - although I've never heard a refference to them as the 'children' of Yavanna. ??

[Bruce MacCulloch]

That is the answer I was looking for, Telchar. Perhaps my choice of words wasn't the best, I apologize.

[Telchar]

No need smilies/smile.gif - anyway :

What was the mannish name for Oromë that was used in Gondor at the end of the 3rd Age?

[ February 08, 2002: Message edited by: Telchar ]

[Meriadoc]

Aldaron, Araw or Tauron, I'm not sure, sorry

[Androndo the Thoughtfull]

my guess would be Aldaron or Lord of the Trees...?

[Elrian]

Araw? Wasn't Boromir's horn made from the Kine of Araw?

[Telchar]

Araw is correct smilies/smile.gif - Take it away!

[Elrian]

Which of the Vala is known for growing golden flowers in Valinor?

[Androndo the Thoughtfull]

Arien...

In the days of the Trees Arien had tended the golden flowers

[Elrian]

No, Arien is not a Valar.

[Bruce MacCulloch]

It wasn't Arien, she didn't grow the flowers, she tended them. If you keep reading in the same sentence quoted above, you will see that In the days of the Trees Arien had tended the golden flowers in the gardens of Vána ... So, the anser is Vána. smilies/biggrin.gif

[Elrian]

Right again Bruce, your turn.

[Bruce MacCulloch]

Where does Estë sleep?

[Joy]

In the gardens of Lorién??

[Bruce MacCulloch]

No. I'm looking for specifics here.

[Joy]

Found it. I knew that I read it just a couple of days ago. She walks not by day, but sleeps upon an island in the tree-shadowed lake of Lórellin.

[ February 19, 2002: Message edited by: Joy ]

[ February 19, 2002: Message edited by: Joy ]

[Orald]

She walks not by day, but sleeps upon an island in the tree-shadowed lake of Lòrellin

Specific enough?

[Orald]

Curses! Beat me by a second, why did i spell check

[Joy]

This is too funny. We were both tying at the same time. To bad that I type 70 word per minute. smilies/biggrin.gif But, if Bruce will allow, I will let you have at it. I do not know much about the Valiar.

[Bruce MacCulloch]

That is correct. I'll let you two figure out who asks the next one. smilies/wink.gif

[ February 19, 2002: Message edited by: Bruce MacCulloch ]

[ February 19, 2002: Message edited by: Bruce MacCulloch ]

[Joy]

Durelen, you go okay.

[ February 22, 2002: Message edited by: Joy ]

[Nefwathiel Teleri]

You guys are funny!LOL smilies/smile.gif

[Elrian]

To resurrect this thread back into being:
What are the 7 titles given to Varda?

[Joy]

Ah, Elrian, I have learned much since that last post LOL smilies/biggrin.gif

The 7 titles of Varda are as follows:

Elberth
Star-kindler
Lady of the Stars
Elentári
Gilthoniel
Tintallë
Queen of the Stars

[Elrian]

You got 5 out of 7 smilies/frown.gif

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

Hope you don't mind that I take a try at this:

-Elbereth
-Gilthoniel
-Elentari
-The Kindler
-Lady of the Stars
-Queen of the Stars
-Tintalle

Joy put like the same ones so I'll put in Queen of the Valar aaaaand I don't know, let's use her own name-Varda. Or spouse of Manwe. I'm like cheating the rules!!!! Sorry smilies/frown.gif lol.

[Elrian]

No, sorry.

[Lómelindi]

I'm just putting all the names by which she's called, and hopefully some of them will be correct.

~ Elbereth
~ Elentári
~ Gilthoniel
~ The Kindler
~ Lady of the Stars
~ Queen of the Stars
~ Tintallë
~ "The Exalted"
~ "The Lofty"
~ one of the Queens of the Valar
~ Spouse of Manwë

[Elrian]

There's a couple missing.