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mordor136
12-12-2001, 09:00 PM
List the Istari in order of their coming to middle earth.
Elrian
12-12-2001, 11:58 PM
Curumo/Saruman
Olorin/Gandalf
Aiwendel/Radagast
Alatar
Pallando
mordor136
12-13-2001, 08:38 AM
what does Saruman's name mean? smilies/evil.gif
Elrian
12-13-2001, 09:12 PM
Man of skill smilies/tongue.gif
Telchar
12-14-2001, 01:57 AM
Is the question here : Who is odd out???
The I say Gandalf for being the only one who stayed true to his quest.
mordor136
12-14-2001, 10:17 PM
No, it was just to list them in order. By the way didn't Gandalf come last. Still good answer but wrong question.
Elrian
12-15-2001, 12:07 AM
Yes, I think he got off the boat last. It said something about Cirdan greeting them and Gandalf came last, that's when Cirdan gave him the Elven ring telling he would have a better use for it.
mordor136
12-15-2001, 12:50 AM
thanks for backing me up pal
Telchar
12-17-2001, 03:31 AM
Sorry - my misreading the previous post - Gandalf came last thats correct but years later and not on the same boat... smilies/smile.gif
mordor136
12-18-2001, 08:08 AM
What color is gandalf's hat? smilies/eek.gif
BELERIAND
12-18-2001, 08:57 AM
BLUE smilies/evil.gif
Marileangorifurnimaluim
12-18-2001, 07:44 PM
Grey?
mordor136
12-19-2001, 09:23 AM
no he had it right. it was blue.you can continue the questioning because he dosnt know enough to make a question. smilies/rolleyes.gif
It has been more than 7 days, so I will post.
What other names did Alatar and Pallando have and what did they mean?
Come on guys, I know someone here knows this one! Hint, Hint Bruce smilies/smile.gif
Eowyn of Ithilien
02-20-2002, 02:29 AM
the Blue Wizards because they wore blue robes...they went into the East and don't really come into the tales
Eowyn of Ithilien
02-21-2002, 05:47 AM
alright...I can only think of easy ones coz it must be a month since I've read any of the books smilies/frown.gif
what reason did one of the Istari give for not wishing to lead the council?
zifnab
02-21-2002, 10:41 AM
That would be Mithrandir.
He desired no ties and no allegiance(save the ones who sent him), and he would not abide in any place.
Eowyn of Ithilien
02-22-2002, 11:41 PM
smilies/smile.gif pray continue
zifnab
02-23-2002, 02:53 PM
Ok, I can't think of a good one at the moment either. But here goes....
Manwe wanted a certain Istati to go. That certain Istari said that he was "to weak for such a task, and that he feared Sauron". In which Manwe replied, "That is all the more reason why you should go".
Who was the "Certain Istari"?
I know its an easy one, but I'm at a loss at the moment! smilies/smile.gif
onewhitetree
02-23-2002, 03:35 PM
That would be Olórin, would it not?
zifnab
02-24-2002, 01:12 AM
Your right! Hard one, wasn't it?! (; Your turn.
onewhitetree
02-24-2002, 01:30 AM
Ok...what did Olórin the Istari give to the Old Took that was quite remarkable?
Dwarin Thunderhammer
02-24-2002, 01:47 AM
Cufflinks that never came undone?
zifnab
02-24-2002, 01:51 AM
Magical diamond studs, which fastened and unfastened on command!
onewhitetree
02-24-2002, 01:53 AM
The zifferoo has got it! Close, Dwarin, but they would come undone if ordered so. smilies/smile.gif
[ February 24, 2002: Message edited by: onewhitetree ]
Dwarin Thunderhammer
02-24-2002, 02:00 AM
Ok, Let's have the next one zif...
zifnab
02-24-2002, 02:01 AM
Which Istari made/used Goblin-Barkers?
smilies/wink.gif
Dwarin Thunderhammer
02-24-2002, 02:02 AM
Gandalf! Goblin Barkers were a type of firecracker at Bilbo's eleventy first party!
[ February 24, 2002: Message edited by: Dwarin Thunderhammer ]
zifnab
02-24-2002, 02:06 AM
Your right! Your turn!
Dwarin Thunderhammer
02-24-2002, 02:19 AM
Who were the black wizard, because there was a white one they had to have a black one....... smilies/wink.gif Seriously though Here is my question:
What did gandalf wear around his neck and what color was it?
onewhitetree
02-24-2002, 02:21 AM
A silver scarf.
zifnab
02-24-2002, 02:22 AM
Scarf? Silver or White?
Sauron was the Black Wizard! smilies/rolleyes.gif
Dwarin Thunderhammer
02-24-2002, 02:25 AM
Good job onewhite tree ask away!
onewhitetree
02-24-2002, 02:38 AM
A bit obscure, I'll admit, but Istari knowledge is thin. I'm feeling evil, so what the heck? How many stairs were there to the threshold of Saruman's abode, Orthanc?
zifnab
02-24-2002, 02:44 AM
27! smilies/biggrin.gif
onewhitetree
02-24-2002, 02:49 AM
Excellent! You even get a point for answering with such a big toothy grin.
zifnab
02-24-2002, 02:55 AM
Thanks for the point!
Ok......
Who had "raven hair and a fair voice"?
Dwarin Thunderhammer
02-24-2002, 02:59 AM
Radagast?
zifnab
02-24-2002, 03:02 AM
Nope! smilies/smile.gif
Orald
02-24-2002, 03:07 AM
Saruman?
zifnab
02-24-2002, 03:15 AM
Correct, your turn!
Orald
02-24-2002, 05:01 PM
After the Old Took's death when was the next time Gandalf was seen in the Shire?
onewhitetree
02-24-2002, 05:57 PM
That fateful day he showed up on an unsuspecting Bilbo Baggins' doorstep!
Orald
02-26-2002, 12:45 AM
Kate get's it. GO on ask.
onewhitetree
02-26-2002, 12:59 AM
Who was the first person in the west of Middle-Earth to know who the Istari were?
Was it Cirdan the ShipWright?
onewhitetree
02-26-2002, 02:29 PM
Indeed! Do continue.
To which Istari did Cirdan give one of the Rings of Power? What was the rings name and meaning and why did he (Cirdan) give this ring to this Istari?
I know that it is long question, but I don't know much about them.
onewhitetree
02-26-2002, 06:37 PM
He gave it to Gandalf because he knew Gandalf would have more need of it than he in the days to come, rallying supporters and all.
Bruce MacCulloch
02-26-2002, 09:37 PM
Cirdan gave to Gandalf Narya, the Ring of Fire, because Gandalf's "labors and ... cares will be heavy" and that Gandalf could "rekindle hearts to the valor of old in a world gone chill".
Your turn Bruce. smilies/cool.gif
Bruce MacCulloch
02-27-2002, 11:29 PM
Which of the Istari volunteered to go to Middle-Earth first?
Watcher in the Water
02-27-2002, 11:56 PM
Was it Saruman?
Bruce MacCulloch
02-28-2002, 12:14 AM
Yep!
Watcher - your turn.
Watcher in the Water
02-28-2002, 02:12 AM
What was the reason given suggesting that Radagast had failed his 'mission' in Middle Earth?
Hmmm... Didnt word that too well but I'm sure you get the drift...
Telchar
02-28-2002, 02:34 AM
Because he didn't stay true to his mission in opposing Sauron and rather spend his time concerned with beasts and birds?
Legolas
02-28-2002, 10:24 AM
"...he did not remain faithful to his mission..."
"...in becoming enamoured with the wild creatures of Middle-earth Radagast neglected the purpose for which he was sent if perhaps not perfectly in accord with the idea of his being specially chosen by Yavanna."
zifnab
02-28-2002, 10:45 AM
Well it appears Im too late to answer this one, which it seems happens to often. Curse my slow reading and typing!
"Radagast the Brown!" laughed Saruman, and he no longer concealed his scorn. "Radagast the Bird-Tamer! Radagast the Simple! Radagast the Fool! Yet he had just the wit to play the part that I set him.
For Radagast, the fourth, became enamoured of the many beasts and birds that dwelt in Middle-Earth, and forsook Elves and Men, and spent his days among the wild creatres. Unfinished Tales-The Istari
Watcher in the Water
03-05-2002, 02:15 AM
Telchar got it...
Sorry for the time delay... long weekend here meant some drinking was done (and associated hung-over feelings) smilies/smile.gif
Telchar
03-05-2002, 03:46 AM
What specific thing started Saruman hate of Gandalf?
Bruce MacCulloch
03-05-2002, 04:25 AM
Saruman's discovery that Gandalf had been given Narya by Círdan.
Telchar
03-05-2002, 07:59 AM
Correct as usual - go on Bruce smilies/smile.gif
Bruce MacCulloch
03-05-2002, 04:16 PM
We know that the word wizard is a translation of the Quenya istar. What is the word in Sindarin?
zifnab
03-05-2002, 11:16 PM
Sindarin: ithron
Bruce MacCulloch
03-06-2002, 12:03 AM
I suppose I'll let you go, Zif. smilies/tongue.gif
smilies/evil.gif smilies/eek.gif smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/rolleyes.gif smilies/frown.gif smilies/cool.gif smilies/tongue.gif smilies/wink.gif
zifnab
03-06-2002, 11:48 AM
A double question!
Who learned "pity and patience"? And from whom?
Voronwe
03-06-2002, 12:36 PM
Olorin (aka Gandalf), from Nienna.
zifnab
03-06-2002, 03:58 PM
Good Job, Voronwe. Your turn!
Voronwe
03-08-2002, 02:01 PM
Who granted Sauruman leave to dwell in Orthanc?
Bruce MacCulloch
03-08-2002, 03:52 PM
Beren, Steward of Gondor.
Voronwe
03-08-2002, 05:18 PM
Correct.
Bruce MacCulloch
03-08-2002, 10:43 PM
Speaking of Orthanc, what are the original names of Orthanc and Isengard?
zifnab
03-09-2002, 10:02 AM
O=Mount Fang/Cunning Mind?
I=Angrenost?
Bruce MacCulloch
03-11-2002, 01:06 AM
I'll give it to you. Mount Fang and Cunning Mind are actually translations of the name Orthanc. Your turn Ziff-a-dee-doo-dah! smilies/tongue.gif
zifnab
03-12-2002, 10:32 AM
My oh my. What a wonderful day!
In what year did Saruman acquire the keys of Orthanc?
Telchar
03-13-2002, 04:07 AM
From the top of my head TA 2763 - hmmm But Im 4 years wrong smilies/frown.gif
Telchar
03-13-2002, 04:13 AM
From the top of my head TA 2763 - hmmm But Im 4 years wrong smilies/frown.gif
zifnab
03-13-2002, 11:03 AM
2763-4 = 2759
Thats good enough for me, Telchar. Your turn!
Telchar
03-14-2002, 02:31 AM
What was the reason that Aiwendil/Radagast came to Middle-earth - or rather what/who/how made it happen - and why??? confused? OK! try anyway smilies/wink.gif
Bruce MacCulloch
03-14-2002, 08:30 AM
Curumo took Aiwendil to please Yavanna.
Telchar
03-15-2002, 02:27 AM
Yes - go on!
Bruce MacCulloch
03-15-2002, 06:41 AM
Which of the Istari had a name that referred to dreams and visions?
zifnab
03-15-2002, 10:07 AM
Olorin?
Bruce MacCulloch
03-15-2002, 03:53 PM
That's the one! smilies/wink.gif
zifnab
03-15-2002, 04:37 PM
What act did Saruman secretly imitate from Gandalf?
Bruce MacCulloch
03-15-2002, 04:59 PM
Smoking
zifnab
03-15-2002, 06:21 PM
Correct as usual, Bruce!
Nefwathiel Teleri
03-15-2002, 08:15 PM
Smoking Pipe-weed. smilies/rolleyes.gif
Bruce MacCulloch
03-15-2002, 08:47 PM
Which of the Istari was the "Man of Craft"?
Orald
03-15-2002, 10:32 PM
Saruman
Bruce MacCulloch
03-15-2002, 10:41 PM
That is correct.
Orald
03-17-2002, 01:33 AM
In Jeopardy! style.
This is why the Istari came to the north of Middle-Earth.
Bruce MacCulloch
03-17-2002, 02:12 AM
What is "to advise and persuade Men and Elves to good, and to seek to unite in love and understanding all those whom Sauron, should he come again, would endeavor to dominate and corrupt"?
[ March 17, 2002: Message edited by: Bruce MacCulloch ]
Orald
03-18-2002, 01:44 PM
Judges? Correct.
Bruce MacCulloch
03-18-2002, 10:41 PM
Here's one that isn't actually about the Istari, but involves one of them.
How long was it after Thráin left his people that Gandalf found him?
Watcher in the Water
03-18-2002, 11:40 PM
2 years? Anyone for a stab in the dark?
Telchar
03-19-2002, 02:22 AM
9 years from TA 2841 to TA2850!
Bruce MacCulloch
03-19-2002, 05:29 AM
Nine years is correct! http://www.plauder-smilies.de/biggthumpup.gif
Telchar
03-19-2002, 08:41 AM
Which Istar said that he had attacked Dol Goldur? .... he did use the word 'attack'.
zifnab
03-19-2002, 09:21 AM
That would be Gandalf, who persuaded the Council to attack Dol Guldor, before that pesky Necromancer attack Lorien.
Telchar
03-19-2002, 10:28 AM
well zifnab - it was gandalf, but he was talking about a one-man attack - the before mentioned in 2850 - it was actually because he called it an 'attack' that I posted the question, as I was rather puzzled by his choise of words, in his talks with Thorin ei. before the white counsils attack in 2941...
Ask a new one, please
zifnab
03-19-2002, 10:55 AM
I see, Telchar. Thanks.
Who did Yavanna “beg” to take Aiwendil?
Bruce MacCulloch
03-19-2002, 12:42 PM
Curumo
zifnab
03-19-2002, 12:53 PM
Passes the torch to Bruce. smilies/tongue.gif
Bruce MacCulloch
03-19-2002, 04:32 PM
What did Gandalf have to drink, and how much of it, after spending the day "picking out bear tracks"?
Bruce MacCulloch
03-20-2002, 08:52 AM
Your turn, Joy.
Sorry, it took so long. Couldn't find the thread again.
In what year and age was the White Council founded.
zifnab
03-28-2002, 09:28 AM
2463 Third Age.
Correctomundo... Your turn Zifnab.
zifnab
03-28-2002, 02:28 PM
In "The Hobbit" where did Radagast live near?
Bruce MacCulloch
03-28-2002, 02:53 PM
The Southern Borders of Mirkwood.
zifnab
03-28-2002, 03:04 PM
Correct!
Bruce MacCulloch
03-28-2002, 03:54 PM
When the Istari first became known in Middle Earth, what did Men hold them to be?
zifnab
03-28-2002, 11:37 PM
Of Elven-Kind?
Bruce MacCulloch
03-28-2002, 11:42 PM
Yep! http://www.plauder-smilies.de/biggthumpup.gif
Nefwathiel Teleri
04-03-2002, 08:00 PM
Mordor136 is so cool. look how big this thread is.
mordor136
04-07-2002, 08:23 PM
no sign of bruce so i'll continue.
Which three beings guessed the Istari's true origins?
Watcher in the Water
04-08-2002, 12:05 AM
Elrond, Cirdan and Galadriel?
Bruce MacCulloch
04-08-2002, 01:06 AM
Actually, it's Zifnab's turn.
mordor136
04-08-2002, 07:15 PM
oops but it was still over 3 months and watchers answer is right
zifnab
04-08-2002, 07:25 PM
You can bypass me up, this thread I think has taken a toll on me. Theres only so many questions that you can ask about the Istari.
mordor136
04-08-2002, 07:37 PM
awwww we didn't even get pick yet (hehehe)
Bruce MacCulloch
04-29-2002, 04:17 AM
Theres only so many questions that you can ask about the Istari. I'm going to have to follow Zifnab's lead on this one. I'm getting a bit "Istari'd" out.
Pallando
06-24-2002, 05:55 PM
Is it Lúthien Tinúviel when she took on Thuringwethil's form to find Beren ere he passed to the Halls of Mandos?
Pallando
06-24-2002, 05:59 PM
opps... I didn't see the extra pages.... I read zip's "Who had "raven hair and a fair voice"?".... sorry...
Cathelm
06-26-2002, 03:08 PM
I'm new here, so please forgive me if I'm asking out of turn, but since you seem to be running a bit out of questions...
Which of the wizards went into the east, and which came back from the journey?
Orome
07-06-2002, 09:22 PM
the 2 blue cloaked ones went into the east and never returned
Luthien_ Tinuviel
07-07-2002, 03:35 PM
And I believe Saruman went with thema and then came back.
Daniel Telcontar
07-08-2002, 08:45 AM
You are both right; and to make an extra post, their names were Pallando and Alatar.
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