odd item out

[Gil-Galad]

this is just like the other odd people and places out but with items!


1. Palantir
2. Narya
3. Aeglos
4. Anduril

[elven maiden Earwen]

Aegloes because it was the only thing belonging to an elf.

[Gil-Galad]

yep but the main reason was that Gil-galad was the only one to have a ring with that weapon your turn

[elven maiden Earwen]

Nenya
Nasrsil
Narya
One Ring

[Pallando B.C]

Narsil is the only one to be made in the First Age.

[elven maiden Earwen]

nope not it

[Gil-Galad]

the one ring was the only forged by evil or Maiar the rest in secret and by elves

[Tar-Palantir]

Nenya was the only one that didn't change owners.

[elven maiden Earwen]

nope still not what im looking for.

[lathspell]

The One Ring was the only to be destroyed and not remade.
or
Narsil, because it is no Ring of Power but a sword.

[Tar-Palantir]

The One Ring was never given a proper name.

[elven maiden Earwen]

Lathspell got it. It was Narsil because the rest were all rings. Your up!

[Gil-Galad]

lathspell your up

[lathspell]

Sorry for the delay, people... I had forgotten about this thread. Thank you for the reminder, elven maiden Earwen.

Nenya
Narya
Pippin's brooch
Silmarils
One Ring

[elven maiden Earwen]

Silmarils because they haven't been in Lothlorien.

[lathspell]

Well found! You should've earned it only by that, but I'm sorry to say it's not the answer I was looking for.

greetings,
lathspell

[elven maiden Earwen]

one ring because it was made by evil or because made by a maiar and not an elf

[Lomadia]

Silmarils because they're the only ones Aragorn never saw? (Did he?)

[Tar-Palantir]

Silmarils weren't made to be worn?

[lathspell]

Nope, sorry people, still not the answer I'm looking for.

[elven maiden Earwen]

Silmarilss because they havent been to the Shire.

[Annunfuiniel]

Nenya, the only one that wasn't cast/dropped anywhere?

[lathspell]

No, still not. Annunfuiniel, you don't wanna know how close you are. Narya wasn't dropped either in the history of M-e... but please continue, you're on the right track.

greetings,
lathspell

[Tar-Palantir]

Nenya was the only one that didn't change hands.

Ps- that's the same answer I gave for the last question..hehe..maybe it'll work this time...

[Annunfuiniel]

Narya fell with Gandalf in to the abyss in Moria so in a way it was cast... well anyway, can't think of a new answer right now. And Tar-Palantir probably has it right. smilies/tongue.gif

[lathspell]

hey people

Tar-palantir, you are the lucky winner of this contest. Your price: to proceed the thread with a new question.

greetings,
lathspell

[Gil-Galad]

Tar-Palantir yur up

[Tar-Palantir]

Dragon-helm of Dor-lómin
Gurthang
Narsil
Arkenstone

don't solve it too fast, ok? smilies/smile.gif

[ February 27, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ]

[The Saucepan Man]

Gurthang. It's the only one that was not an heirloom.

The Dragon-Helm was an heirloom of the House of Hador.

Narsil was an heirloom of the Lords of Andunie.

The Arkenstone was an heirloom of the Dwarf-kings of Erebor.

[Tar-Palantir]

Not the answer I'm after SaucepanMan, try again. smilies/smile.gif

[elven maiden Earwen]

Arkenstone because it belongs to dwarves and the reat belonged to men.

[Tar-Palantir]

you're getting warm...

[elven maiden Earwen]

gurthang because it once belong to an elf.

[lathspell]

The Arkenstone is the only one that is a jewel. All other were weapons or armor.

[Tar-Palantir]

*hint*

It has to do with their origins

[Annunfuiniel]

Gurthang was the one not been forged by dwarves.

[Tar-Palantir]

Hey you're one smart cookie Annunfuiniel!

please continue...

[Annunfuiniel]

Thank thee T-P! smilies/wink.gif

Ring of Barahir
Sceptre of Annûminas
Elfstone
Star of the north
Anduril

[Turambar]

The Star of the North, because it's the only one I don't know what it is? smilies/biggrin.gif

OK, then Andúril - the only one forged or made in the Third Age?

[Annunfuiniel]

Sorry, no luck with your guesses Turambar. smilies/tongue.gif

[Turambar]

What is the star of the North?

If that would give it away, just ignore me. smilies/biggrin.gif

[ February 28, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Annunfuiniel]

Check the Riddle ME this -thread for the answer (the last post at the moment), there it's described quite well. smilies/wink.gif

[ March 01, 2003: Message edited by: Annunfuiniel ]

[Tar-Palantir]

All of the Items were kept in Imladris, except for the Elfstone (given by Galadriel).

[Annunfuiniel]

You're getting pretty close! smilies/smile.gif

[Gil-Galad]

any pther guesses? if not annunfiniel gets to go again

[Rochelle]

I'm going to say Star of the North because it was not given to Aragorn II?

[Annunfuiniel]

Ok, I'll give it to Tar-Palantir 'cause he got the right item. The others were items Aragorn had a hereditary right to exept Elfstone which was given to him by Galadriel (obviously it became a heirloom but wasn't that for Aragorn).
Hope that clears it up! smilies/smile.gif
Carry on, T-P!

[Tar-Palantir]

why thank you - that was a tough one! I already know this one has beings in addition to items, but I think you can handle it.

Belthronding
Mirror of Galadriel
Shadowfax
Ilúvatar
The One Ring

good luck players!

[ March 04, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ]

[Valórin]

Possibably the Mirror Of Galadriel because it is the only one on the list that isnt one thing. It is water in a dish with magical properties. The others are actual things: Ring, Horse, Spirit(Eru), and a Bow...

[ March 04, 2003: Message edited by: Valórin ]

[lathspell]

I thought this was 'odd item out. I don't regard Shadowfax or Iluvatar as items, but maybe people disagree.

lathspell

[Tar-Palantir]

I thought I explained that, I will concede though I find it silly.

Elven cloaks
Three strands of hair
Golden belt
A Phial
Box of dirt
Elfstone
Mirror of Galadriel

[ March 04, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ]

[The Saucepan Man]

The Mirror of Galadriel. It is the only one that was not a gift to others from Galadriel/her people.

Btw, what was the answer to the disallowed one?

[ March 04, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

[Tar-Palantir]

You are correct TheSaucepanMan.

The answer to the other one was that they all had but one master, except Eru who had no master. I thought it was a neat one.

[Valórin]

Yes, very nice... Although it was a bit silly to ignore one just becuase its slightly modified from the topic...

[The Saucepan Man]

Here's the next list:

Palantir of Orthanc
Athelas
Pipe
Elven Brooch
Corsair's Boat

[lathspell]

Corsair's Boat, all the others have been in the hands of Aragorn

[Annunfuiniel]

Pipe? All others were useful to Aragorn during the War of the Rings but his pipe was just something he had for amusement.

[Gil-Galad]

Corsairs boat was made for evil purposes the rest were good or gifts

[The Saucepan Man]

Annunfuiniel has it.

All of them were used by, and useful to, Aragorn in the War of the Ring. The pipe was used by him, but played no specific role in the Quest of the Ring and the battle to defeat Sauron.

[Annunfuiniel]

Yeah! Ok, here's the next list of items:

Glamdring
Gúthwinë
Narsil
Orcrist
Sting

[Estanesse]

Narsil because it was forged by a dwarf all the others are forged by an elf.

[ March 07, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ]

[Annunfuiniel]

Maybe so (I can't be sure about Gúthwinë, was it forged by elves?), but that's not the answer I'm looking for...

[Valórin]

Sting - Bilbo game it that name, while the others gained their names from their creators/forgers.

[lathspell]

Orcrist is the only one that was worn by immortal and mortal folk. Once it belonged to the Elves of Gondolin, later to the Trolls, and after that to Thorin Oakenshield.

[Annunfuiniel]

No right answer yet...
I think that Sting was also borne by both immortal and mortal subjects.
Hint: think about their qualities

[Tar-Palantir]

Sting is just a knife?

Or is it that Gúthwinë was standard issue grade and the others were all special/magical?

[ March 09, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ]

[Annunfuiniel]

Yes, finally! All the others had blades that gleamed or glowed or shimmered or whatsoever in a "magical" way but Gúthwinë was just an ordinary sword, no magic there. smilies/smile.gif
Well done T-P (may I call you that? smilies/smile.gif ), please go on.

[lathspell]

Did Narsil do that stuff as well?

[Estanesse]

No, because it was not a sword made by elves but dwarves. Only elf swords made in Gondolin glowed. But I think the answer is still correct because Gúthwinë was the only sword who had nothing magical.

[Annunfuiniel]

Yes, I believe it did based on the following description (from the Silmarillion):
...and the sword of Elendil filled Orcs and Men with fear, for it shone with the light of the sun and of the moon, and it was named Narsil.

Narsil lost its glow when it was broken but gained it back after being re-forged to Anduril. That's at least how I have come to know it.

[ March 09, 2003: Message edited by: Annunfuiniel ]

[Tar-Palantir]

There is another instance also where it is described as shining with a white light (or something similar) when Aragorn wielded it.

Eärrámë
Númerrámar
Vingilot
White Ship

bon voyage players. smilies/smile.gif

[Gil-Galad]

VIngilot becasue it went up to the Skys and was shinign with a Silmaril

[Tar-Palantir]

Nope, nothing to do with flying or sinking.

[Faenaduial]

Numerramar. It sailed to Middle Earth, the others sailed out of Middle Earth.

[Tar-Palantir]

Hey good job, I guess I'll have to start making them really hard. smilies/wink.gif

your turn Faenaduial.

[Faenaduial]

Thanks,

mallos
elanor
aeglos
alfirin

[Estanesse]

aeglos
Because it's the only white flower
all the others are golden flowers

[lathspell]

Aeglos - A weapon was also named so.

Elanor - Sam's daughter was named likewise.

[Faenaduial]

Estanesse, you are correct.

Your turn. smilies/smile.gif

[Estanesse]

Thanks

shield
lance
Knife
sword

[Tar-Palantir]

Estanesse- They need to be items from the stories of Tolkien, ok?

[Estanesse]

They are

[Tar-Palantir]

shield
lance
Knife
sword


Who used a lance?

[Estanesse]

That is what you have to guess smilies/tongue.gif
It’s not fun if I give the answer

But I can give a hint if you want

[Gil-Galad]

i think what he kinda means that you have to be more specific like Anduril and such becasue just basic things would throw us off and was it lance becasue none were used in wotr or at all for that matter

[Tar-Palantir]

I guess I'll bite this time...

Guess #1- A lance is the only weapon not used in the books. Only a mounted fighter can use a lance - which basically rules out everybody but Oromë and the Rohirrim, and neither of them used a lance.

Guess #2- A shield is the only non-weapon.

[ March 10, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ]

[Estanesse]

There is no right answer yet

I will give a hint

shield
lance
Knife
sword
and a helm

I’m looking for a person who wears 4 out of 5

[Gil-Galad]

Arargorn never had a lance but he had the rest so lance

[elven maiden Earwen]

Turin because he never had a lance

[Annunfuiniel]

A knife; Gil-Galad bore all the others except a knife. His spear (or lance) Aeglos is mentioned in the Silmarillion and the other gear in The Fall of Gil-Galad (Sam recites the first lines of it in the FoTR).

[Estanesse]

You’re correct Annunfuiniel

They are all mentioned (one exeption the knife) in The Fall of Gil-Galad

His sword was long, his lance was keen,
his shining helm afar was seen:
the countless stars of heaven's field
were mirrored in his silver shield.

[ March 12, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ]

[Annunfuiniel]

Oh, wheehee! But alas, empty-headedness caught me again! So this will be too easy but please bear with me...

Anduril
Glamdring
Gandalf's staff
Gimli's axe
Legolas' bow

[The Saucepan Man]

Gandalf's staff was the only item not handed to Hama at the door of Meduseld in Edoras.

[Annunfuiniel]

Yes indeed! What did I tell you? Too easy!
smilies/frown.gif Well, if I know The Saucepan Man at all the next one may be quite the opposite... smilies/wink.gif smilies/smile.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

Hmm. Whenever I think I've set an easy one, no-one gets it for ages ... and when I think it's difficult, the answer's found straight away! smilies/confused.gif

How about these:

Drum
Fiddle
Flute
Harp
Horn

[Annunfuiniel]

I don't recall anyone playing a fiddle in Tolkien's M-E books. So, is it a fiddle?

[lathspell]

I don't recall the flute or the harp either.

Maybe...
Horn - It's the only musical instrument carried by the Fellowship

[Malva Headstrong]

Horn - not played by the dwarves in Bilbo´s hole
or
Horn - the only instrument played in LotR (of the others is only spoken)

[Gil-Galad]

fiddle becasue the rest were played at the comign of Elessar into Minas Tirith

(Harps came from Dol Amroth and so on)

[cookie_crazy]

I would definitely say horn, it wasn't played in Bilbo's hole, and it was the only one blown/played in LOTR.

[alquadae]

A lance was the one thing not carried on the quest

[alquadae]

oops sorry half the page didn't come up till i posted

[The Saucepan Man]

Malva Headstrong got it first - the Horn is the only instrument not played by the Dwarves at the Unexpected Party at Bag End.

I think it was Fili and Kili on the Fiddles. There were Clarinets and Viols too. smilies/smile.gif

Your turn, Malva ...

[Malva Headstrong]

Good, here you are (and I hope, it´s not too easy):

belt
helm
horn
jerkin of leather
knife
pony
round shield
sword

[ March 14, 2003: Message edited by: Malva Headstrong ]

[Salix]

The pony was the only one not carried by the fellowship? smilies/biggrin.gif (emphasis on carried)

[The Saucepan Man]

The pony was the only item not used by Boromir. Or, on a similar line of thought, it was the only thing that did not accompany him on his final journey over the Falls of Rauros.

[Malva Headstrong]

No, it has nothing to do with Boromir. He was dead for quite a while when these items were mentioned.

[ March 14, 2003: Message edited by: Malva Headstrong ]

[Annunfuiniel]

These are all items that Merry possessed, exept the pony.

[Malva Headstrong]

Very close, but wrong.

[Annunfuiniel]

The sword was the only item Merry didn't get from Rohan?

[Malva Headstrong]

Right! Go on

[lathspell]

Sam has had all things except the Horn.

[Malva Headstrong]

Annunfuiniel solved this already

[Annunfuiniel]

Thank thee, Malva! That was a good one (though someone might argue that the poor pony is no item smilies/wink.gif ).
Yes, back to business:

Arkenstone
Elendilmir
Palantír
Silmaril

[Estanesse]

Arkenstone
There is only one Arkenstone
Or is it because the Arkenstone isn't destroyed or lost.

[lathspell]

Oops, sorry, didn't see the 'Right, go on!' message.

Arkenstone is the only one not to be made by Elves, I believe.

[Annunfuiniel]

You're both right but I was looking for the answer that Estanesse gave; there was only one Arkenstone others were many.
So, please do continue, Estanesse! smilies/smile.gif

[Estanesse]

Thanks Annunfuiniel

Palantiri
Ring of Barahir
Anguirel
Mirror of Galadriel

[Faenaduial]

Anguirel. The only item that is a weapon and the only item to used to slay the person who weilded it.

[Estanesse]

No that's not it smilies/frown.gif

[lathspell]

is Palantiri meant as a hint?

In that case:
Palantiri, because all others or just one item and Palantiri is (usually meant as) 7

[Lyra Greenleaf]

was anguirel the only one a mortal never saw or used?
or was the mirror of galadriel the only one not given as a gift to men, or used by men? (OK, so I'm confused!)

[Estanesse]

There is no good answer yet

[Malva Headstrong]

I guess the Ring of Barahir. It was the only jewelry
OR
it was the only item that hadn´t any magic powers.

[ March 17, 2003: Message edited by: Malva Headstrong ]

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Is Anguirel the only one not in Lord of the Rings (the book)?
OR Is the Ring of Barahir the only one without a mysterious end?
OR Is the mirror of Galadriel the only one that was never lost?
OR is the Mirror of Galadriel the only one never given as a gift?
OR Is the Mirror of Galadriel the only one not mentioned in the Silmarillion?

[elven maiden Earwen]

hint maybe??

[Estanesse]

here is a hint
Palantiri
Ring of Barahir
Anguirel
Mirror of Galadriel
and Narya

[Tar-Palantir]

I suppose they were all gifts but the Mirror.

[elven maiden Earwen]

Anguirel because Galadriel has seen all of the others

[Estanesse]

No and No

Hint

Palantiri
Ring of Barahir
Anguirel
Mirror of Galadriel
Narya
And a Silmaril

[gralin musicteeth]

this is a long shot, but is it Anguirel?

All the rest have something to do with fire
*Palantiri-Pippin sees the eye of Sauron wreathed in flame
*Ring of Barahir-Barahir rescued Finrod in the Dagor Bragollach (The Battle of Sudden Flame)
*Mirror of Galadriel-Frodo sees the eye in it
*Narya- Ring of Fire
*Silmaril- made by Fëanor, Spirit of Fire

don't beat me too hard, i had to think for that!

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Ooh, that makes sense! Come on I want to know the answer its driving me nuts!

[Estanesse]

Right Item but (sorry) wrong reason

[Dondagnirion]

It is Anguirel because it is the only "Weapon" there.

Dondagnirion
"There is no spoon."
"No one ever suspects the butterfly!" - B.Simpson

[Estanesse]

nope

[elven maiden Earwen]

Anguirel because its the only one that didnt exsist in the third age

[Estanesse]

No thats not it smilies/frown.gif

[gralin musicteeth]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! this is driving me nuts!!!

[Estanesse]

Palantiri
Ring of Barahir
Anguirel
Mirror of Galadriel
Narya
And a Silmaril
hint
Enlarged and brighter gem

[Gil-Galad]

all of them were lost? (Ring of Barahir was with the snowmen of Frochel)

[Estanesse]

No,sorry

[alquadae]

Anguirel is the only thing not Noldorian

[Estanesse]

Hey good job smilies/biggrin.gif
your turn alquadae

[alquadae]

Hail and well met!!!
Sorry for the delay. I have to share this[my Plantir]computer with mundanes. Oh well, how splendid!where were we?
Silmarillion
Nenya
Ring of Barahir
Nauglimere
Silver Crown Of Nargothrond

[Lyra Greenleaf]

do you mean a silmaril, or the book the silmarillion?

[elven maiden Earwen]

Nauglimere was made by the dwarves

[alquadae]

singular,,,Nauglimere/ not what i was looking for/hint Luthien

[elven maiden Earwen]

luthien never saw nenya

[alquadae]

Ok
Close enough!
Nenya never entered the story Of Luthien and Beren. carry on well done

[elven maiden Earwen]

k easy but:

glamdring
angelos
silmaril
anguirel
narsil
sting
orcist

[Lyra Greenleaf]

The silmaril is the only one not a sword? Although I've never heard of angelos!
do you mean aeglos, gil-galad's spear? if so, the silmaril is the only one not a weapon?

[ April 06, 2003: Message edited by: Lyra Greenleaf ]

[elven maiden Earwen]

sorry i ment agelos but your close enough, they were all wepons except silmaril

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Sea Wing
Castle of the Sea
Haven Finder
Sea Home
Wooden Whale
Far Wanderer

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Sea Home isn't the name of a ship

Sea Wing was was the ship in which Idril and Tuor went west
Castle of the Sea was the ship of Ar-Pharazon
Haven of the Sea was Tar-Aldarion's flagship
Wooden Whale was a nickname for Hirilonde (Haven of the Sea)
Far-Wanderer is Palarran, the greatest ship of Aldarion.

Sophia

[elven maiden Earwen]

lyra;s on Holiday so she asked me to tell you guys if you are correct or not. Nope thats not the answer.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Ok, second try. Sea Home is indeed the name of a ship, one of Aldarion's ships, to be precise.

Which leads me to guess, Sea Wing, the ship of Tuor & Idril is the only one that wasn't Numenorean in origin, or built/commissioned by a king of Numenor.

Sophia

[elven maiden Earwen]

you are correct so its your go

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

A short list, and probably an easy guess smilies/smile.gif

Angrist
Narsil
Anglachel
Helm of Hador

Sophia

[elven maiden Earwen]

Helm of Hador wasnt a sword.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Nope, and neither was angrist, actually...

Sophia

[The Saucepan Man]

Anglachel, as it was forged by an Elf, Eol, whereas Angrist, Narsil and Helm of Hador were all forged by a Dwarf, Telchar.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Bingo! I was looking for Telchar... smilies/smile.gif Please carry on!

[The Saucepan Man]

Thank you kind Thunder Mistress. smilies/smile.gif

Beer-barrel
Clock
Kettle
Poker
Rope
Shovel

[The Saucepan Man]

Anyone?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

I'm not even touching this one smilies/tongue.gif my index hunting techniques don't hold so good with general objects. smilies/wink.gif

[lathspell]

When is a 'poker' mentioned in the books? I don't know what it is (being Dutch), or do you mean the cardgame???

lathspell

[Durelin]

Uhhhh...I'll guess but...????

Rope because it was the only thing the elves made.
or
A beer-barrel because it is the only thing Biblo would keep in his cellar? smilies/biggrin.gif

?????

Good one Saucepan Man! Very good! *applauds*

[The Saucepan Man]

When is a 'poker' mentioned in the books? I don't know what it is ...

It's a long metal thingy that you poke logs onto a fire with.

Rope because it was the only thing the elves made.

Right item, wrong reason. I need the reason. smilies/smile.gif

A beer-barrel because it is the only thing Biblo would keep in his cellar?

Getting very warm (like a nice cosy hobbit hole *hint*)...

[ April 16, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

[elven maiden Earwen]

rope because its the only thing Sam had.

[The Saucepan Man]

No, the other items all have something in common that the rope does not ...

[elven maiden Earwen]

rope wasnt in the hobbit

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

*with the air of someone presenting great wisdom* A rope has no metal parts...

*shakes head* you're too tricksy for me, O Saucepan Man...

Sophia

[Rumil]

Rope's the only one that Uncle Andy made - obvious !!

[Estanesse]

All are mentioned as an item in Bilbo his hole except the rope

[ April 18, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ]

[The Saucepan Man]

You are correct, Estanesse. smilies/smile.gif

All of the items listed except the rope are mentioned in the first chapter of the Hobbit as items kept by Bilbo in his nice warm Hobbit-hole.

[Estanesse]

Thank you.

golden belt
blue hat
spade
silver tassel
silver belt

[The Saucepan Man]

Well Thorin Oakenshield had a blue hood and a silver tassel. Perhaps he had a silver belt to match. And I'm guessing he may at some point have carried a spade.

So, is it the golden belt as being the only item that Thorin never wore or carried?

[Estanesse]

No thats not the answer

[Eruanna]

Is it the blue hat?
That was worn by Gandalf, all the rest were worn or carried by the Dwarves when they visited Bilbo.

[lathspell]

A spade wasn't worn by any member of the Fellowship.

[Estanesse]

Eruanna that’s is the right answer and the right motivation smilies/smile.gif ,
Please carry on,

[Eruanna]

Thank you smilies/smile.gif Try these:

Bow
Flour
Honey
Arrow
Water
Nuts
Dried fruit

[ April 28, 2003: Message edited by: Eruanna ]

[Estanesse]

All are named as items used or eaten by hobbits except strangely smilies/eek.gif enough flour

[Eruanna]

No, that's not it....although you are on the right track. smilies/smile.gif

[Estanesse]

A clue would help I think, Eruanna smilies/smile.gif

[Eruanna]

You were on the right track Estanesse, you had the wrong item though. Think Hobbit, think journey. smilies/smile.gif

[Estanesse]

Is the answer water. Bow, Arrow, Nuts, Dried fruit, Honey and even Flour are a gift from Beor

[ May 06, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ]

[Eruanna]

Yes that's it. Beor gave the other items to Bilbo and the dwarves. Water he said, they could find on their way.

Well done smilies/smile.gif Please carry on smilies/smile.gif

[ May 06, 2003: Message edited by: Eruanna ]

[Estanesse]

A sheath
A belt of gold
A silver belt
A bow
A box
A golden hair
A phial

[The Saucepan Man]

Is it the silver belt? They are all gifts of Galadriel to the Fellowship. But there was only one of each except the silver belt, of which there were two: one each for Merry and Pippin.

[Eruanna]

Galadriel gave Gimli three golden hairs.

Oh....is it the hair? All of the other items were gifts chosen by Galadriel to give to the Fellowship, Gimli was the only one asked to choose his gift....the hair smilies/smile.gif

[Estanesse]

Nope and no smilies/tongue.gif

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

The contents of the box were intended to be shared? The other gifts were more one-man gifts.

Sophia

[Estanesse]

that's not the answer I'm looking for

[lathspell]

The Phial? It's the only thing Galadriel made herself.

[Estanesse]

No phial is not the correct answer

[Eruanna]

Is it the belt of gold?

All of the others were still in use/around at the end of the story. Boromir's belt passed with him down to the sea.

[Estanesse]

You are correct, Eruanna smilies/smile.gif

All the items are at the end of the story in Minas Tirith except Boromir’s belt of gold

[Eruanna]

Well, that was a complete guess. smilies/smile.gif
Try these:

Sword
Scabbard
Waistcoat
Hooded cloak
Walking stick

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Bilbo took all of them except I believe the waistcoat, to Rivendell after the birthday party. The waistcoat he took off and put away.

Sophia

[Eruanna]

You are exactly right, Sophia.
Your turn. smilies/smile.gif

I like your new avatar....it makes me smile every time I see it, and it seems appropriate for the quiz room. smilies/biggrin.gif

[ May 18, 2003: Message edited by: Eruanna ]

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Thanks Eruanna. smilies/biggrin.gif I actually got it here... Saucepan posted it in one of the threads.

Next Question:
Stones
Stars
Scion of Nimloth
Ship of Earendil

Sophia

[elven maiden Earwen]

Everything but Ship of Earendil was brought from Numenor

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Not what I'm looking for smilies/wink.gif

[polices]

Stones? smilies/frown.gif

[Eruanna]

The Stones, Stars and Scion of Nimloth (the White Tree) are mentioned in the Rhyme of Lore (Tall ships and tall kings...)
The ship of Earendil is not mentioned, so is that the odd one out?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

No, that's not it either.

Sophia

[Eruanna]

Does the Scion of Nimloth refer to the tree or to the "other" Nimloth? (If I am allowed to ask) Scion means descendant, or younger member of the family....

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

"Scion of Nimloth" refers to the tree. smilies/evil.gif Specific isn't it?

[ May 21, 2003: Message edited by: Sophia the Thunder Mistress ]

[Eruanna]

Is the tree the connection?
The stones held the light of the trees, the stars were made from vats of Telperion and the Scion of Nimloth was also descended from the trees.
So the odd one out is the ship.... But the ship, became a star...Aaaargh, Sophia you are driving me round the twist with this one!

A well deserved smilies/evil.gif

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Not the right answer, but you've said a few very relevant things in there. smilies/wink.gif

Sophia

[Arestevana]

smilies/frown.gif I know this isn't right, but maybe it will help someone else. This question is a killer!
smilies/rolleyes.gif Well...The Scion of Nimloth is the only one that wasn't originally something else, made from that thing by some person...and the stones are the only items who's, um, "substance" is unknown, right? Oh! Are the stones the only item that was not remade or replaced? (or regrown?) Or were they the only items to be (at least some of them) lost or destroyed entirely? That's considering you mean the trees in general and not just one...which isn't very likely, considering that creepy smilies/evil.gif keeps popping up......
smilies/eek.gif Did I just think up all of that?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Arestevana- None of your suggestions have been right.

However, when I say Scion of Nimloth, I mean particularly the one tree that was brought by Elendil from Numenor and planted in Gondor. That tree and no other. smilies/evil.gif

That should be a clue of some sort.

Sophia

[Arestevana]

Thought so..... smilies/rolleyes.gif
Okay, one more go. The Ship is the odd one out because it was taken West across the seas. All of the other items are from the west and moved Eastward to Arda, either from Numenor or from Valinor.
smilies/frown.gif That's all I can think of.....

[ May 25, 2003: Message edited by: Arestevana ]

[Eruanna]

Ok, I'm still confused smilies/eek.gif But:

The stones held the light of the trees and some of them became stars in the sky.

The stars were made from vats of Telperion, the original White tree and became er, stars in the sky.

The Scion of Nimloth, was also descended from Telperion, but did not become a star.

Earendil's ship (and Earendil wearing a silmaril) became a star in the sky.

So....the Scion is the odd one out as it did not become a star....or...
Earendil's ship is the odd one out as it was not connected to Telperion?

[Eruanna]

Or... smilies/wink.gif The stones and the Scion of Nimloth were on the ships that escaped the Drowning of Numenor, these ships each had a banner of stars. Isildur's ship had the Scion and one stone)
So the odd one out is Earendil's ship?

I have promised myself that this is positively my last guess....though I have a feeling I'll be kicking myself when the answer is revealed..... smilies/wink.gif

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

None of these are right, although in your very star-related post you were talking about the right stones smilies/wink.gif and right stars.

Please don't stop guessing, you're really rather close to the answer...

Sophia

[Eruanna]

The stones (Silmarilli), stars and Scion of Nimloth were all made from the original White tree, Telperion. Earendil's ship Vingilot is the odd one out?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Would it help if I told you which one was the odd one? smilies/wink.gif it is NOT Vingilot.

[Arestevana]

Thunder Mistress, you are driving me crazy with this question! smilies/mad.gif So crazy in fact, that I will resort to posting
"All but the Scion of Nimloth were seen as stars". I am positive that I am wrong. I may die of shock if I am right. Then again, I may perish in furstration if this question is never answered... smilies/frown.gif

[Finwe]

All the other objects except the Ship of Earendil were once, or still are, the insignia or identifying factors of Elendil's House, or the Kingdoms of the West (Arnor and Gondor).

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

no and no smilies/biggrin.gif.

Finwe- the odd item out is not the ship of Earendil.

Arestevana- the scion of Nimloth is the odd item out smilies/wink.gif.

Sophia

[ May 27, 2003: Message edited by: Sophia the Thunder Mistress ]

[Finwe]

The Scion of Nimloth is the odd one about because it is the only thing not made of "otherworldly" substances, or the only thing not transmuted to "otherwordly" substances.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

no

[Arestevana]

Please tell me I'm wrong. I will be horrified if the question was this easy.
The Scion of Nimloth is the only thing that lived?

[Elentarimir]

*laughs* You have a point, Arestevana! *laughs*

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

*laughs* nope, not that easy.

Although, I really didn't think it was that hard. The key is something that happened to them.

[Arestevana]

You didn't think it was hard? smilies/eek.gif That hint is making it worse. Nimloth was stolen. So were the stones. The key (not the answer) is something that happened to them? So...Nimloth was the only one to survive a big explosion. That sounds lame even to me! Something that happened to the Tree or to everything BUT the tree? Or should have happened but didn't?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Something that happened to everything but the tree. And it's really a fairly basic thing.

Sophia

[Arestevana]

*grumpy*
They were all (except for the tree)called by another name? No. White Tree. I get the feeling I'm making this harder than it is. They were all (Not the tree) made or remade in Valinor?
*grumpier*
This is no good. i'm giving up.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

They were all (Not the tree) made or remade in Valinor?


Closer, much MUCH closer.

[Eruanna]

All were visible from Valinor, in the night sky, except for the tree; which wasn't.

[Arestevana]

Eruanna, I really hope you get it. This question was drivng me insane. Yes, was; It's stopped now that I am.
That sounds right, though.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

*shakes head* still nope. Valinor is key, what happened to these things in Valinor?

Sophia

[Lyra Greenleaf]

I've been staring at this for what seems like hours, so I may as well guess. OK, if you're talking about the tree that was taken to Gondor might it be that that was never in Valinor? While the others were?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

No. I really didn't think this was going to be that hard. smilies/frown.gif

Another hint then. Who lives in Valinor? What (very basic) thing might this group of beings do to the objects that were there?

Sophia

[alquadae]

The scion was not hallowed?

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Tricky. Very tricksy. This thing is driving me nuts. NUTS, I tell you. The tree wasn't made by the Valar. The tree wasn't made by the Elves. The tree wasn't seen by the Valar. The tree wasn't seen by the Elves. It's trick question. There is no right answer. You're just trying to distract us while you take over the world. None of these have anything to do with Earendil's ship. I think I'll just curl up and die.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

alquadae, to put this riddle out of it's misery, I'm going to take that. smilies/biggrin.gif

The extremely simple answer was that the Stones (Silmarils), Stars (of Elbereth) and Ship of Earendil were all touched by the Valar. See, not nearly tricky as it seems.

Sophia

[Eruanna]

We were all obviously looking for an extremely tricksy and complicated answer.....

Just goes to show how devious you are, Sophia smilies/wink.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

[alquadae]

Thank you Sophia.
coats of mail
Swords
spears
bows
axes
harps

[Estanesse]

Is the odd item out an axe, because it is never been used as a weapon ‘ as far as I know’ by an elf?

[alquadae]

Good guess but not quite
smilies/smile.gif

[ June 13, 2003: Message edited by: alquadae ]

[Corwyn Celesil]

Harps because they are not weapons

OR

Coats of armor because they have never been carried by hand into battle (rather, worn)

[alquadae]

Don't dig so deep

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Elves never use axes?

[alquadae]

That may be true [spent a couple of hours looking for an example] but not what I am looking for. please try again smilies/smile.gif

[Corwyn Celesil]

Bows are the only ones where the actual weapon is not thrown or used by hand . . . projectiles . . .
(Axes, by the way, were used in at least one instance by Elves: in Gondolin the house of Meglin "fought with axes two-headded like mattocks.")

[Finwe]

Coats of mail because all the others have been used as weapons, or sorts of weapons by the Elves. Finrod used the harp as a weapon to enchant the Beorians (although probably not intentionally).

[alquadae]

Ok ,a hint, What I am looking for is what they are not how they are used