What (or who) am I talking about (I don't even know half the time!)

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Or perhaps the Second? smilies/smile.gif

[elven maiden Earwen]

Yes and No. smilies/biggrin.gif

[Eruanna]

Are you a lord of Gondor?

[elven maiden Earwen]

Yes I was?

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

Were you Aragorn?

[elven maiden Earwen]

nope

[Beren87]

Were you any of the Stewards?

[elven maiden Earwen]

nope

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Were you a King then?

[The Saucepan Man]

Were you Lord of a Region of Gondor?

[elven maiden Earwen]

no and yes

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Were you Forlong the Fat?

[elven maiden Earwen]

Dang Sophia you keep on getting all of my questions. O' Well Your turn smilies/biggrin.gif

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

smilies/tongue.gif What can I say Earwen... *bows*

I killed Orcs.

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Are you immortal?

[elven maiden Earwen]

Are you male?

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

Are you short?

[Beren87]

Are you of the second age?

[Orofaniel]

Are you a dvarf? smilies/biggrin.gif

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

I am not immortal, a dwarf, short, or of the second age.

I am male.

[Orofaniel]

Are you Legolas?

[Beren87]

Are you a man (the hu variety, that is)?

[Dior]

Are ye of the three houses of men in the FA?

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Did you appear in LOTR?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

I am not Legolas, I am not any person from the First Age.

I am of the Race of Men, I am featured in LoTR.

smilies/wink.gif

[Beren87]

Were you a Steward? or suppose to be one?

[Orofaniel]

Are you Aragorn?

[elven maiden Earwen]

Halbarad?

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Were you of Numenorean (Dunedaic) blood?

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Are you Rohirric?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

I am not a Steward, nor would I ever have become one.

I am neither Aragorn nor Halbarad nor anyone else of Numenorean descent.

I am Rohirric.

[elven maiden Earwen]

Éothain ?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

No.

[elven maiden Earwen]

Eomer?

[The Saucepan Man]

Are you Grimbold of the Westfold?

[Dior]

Eomund

I don't know why I'm saying this, but there isn't that much to go off of.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

No one has yet said it.

Sophia

[The Saucepan Man]

Hmm. A Man of Rohan who killed Orcs. Not many of those about! smilies/wink.gif

OK, let's try to narrow it down a bit.

Were you at either of the Battles of the Fords of Isen?

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Elfhelm?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

I was at the fords of Isen, I was not Elfhelm.

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Were you am officer of some sort, or just a normal soldier?

Incidentally, were you Grimbold?

[Beren87]

Or, perhaps, Erkenbrand?

[elven maiden Earwen]

Theodred?

[Lyra Greenleaf]

On the off-chance you aren't one of the above, did you die during LOTR?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

I am Theodred. Proceed Earwen.

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

You could have been Grimbold, you know.

[elven maiden Earwen]

ok.


I am an elf

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Are you male?

[elven maiden Earwen]

yes

[Beren87]

Were you of the Noldor?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Are you perhaps of Telerin descent?

[The Saucepan Man]

Sindar?

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Did you participate in any battles?

[elven maiden Earwen]

NO, NO, NO, YES, and NO

[Dior]

Were you in middle earth in the third age?

[Eruanna]

Are you a leader of your people?

[Beren87]

NO, NO, NO, YES, and NO

Ô_o There were only 4 questions.

[elven maiden Earwen]

Ô_o There were only 4 questions.
Oppss! smilies/biggrin.gif

It's supposed to be No, no, yes and no

[Dior]

Well, what about my question,
was he in Middle Earth during the Third Age?

[elven maiden Earwen]

Ok on the question about 3 age and leader.

No, and no.

Sorry I'm getting confuzed smilies/rolleyes.gif

-Earwen

[ July 17, 2003: Message edited by: elven maiden Earwen ]

[The Saucepan Man]

Are you Saeros?

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Did you live in Doriath?

PS- the Encyclopedia of Arda says Saeros was Nandor. Were they part of the Sindar or seperate? Also, I thought the Sindar were Teleri, but didn't you say they weren't Sindar, Earwen? Am I reading the order of the questions wrong? I'm getting a headache! smilies/rolleyes.gif

[ July 17, 2003: Message edited by: Lyra Greenleaf ]

[The Saucepan Man]

Yes, Lyra, you are right. Saeros was one of the few Nandor who dwelt in Menegroth. And I believe that we are looking for one of the Sindar. smilies/rolleyes.gif

So I will guess again at Daeron.

[elven maiden Earwen]

Recap:
I am an elf
I am male
I am Sindar

I am not Noldor
or Telerin
I didn't praticipate in any battles
I didn't live in the third age
I wasn't a leader of my people
And I didn't live in Dorith

I am neither Saeros, nor Daeron.

Well I think that sums it all up smilies/biggrin.gif

-Truley confuzed
Earwen

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Sindarin... did you die, or sail West? Er... ok answer this: did you sail West.

[elven maiden Earwen]

No, I didn't sail west.

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Did you live at the Havens?

[elven maiden Earwen]

No I didn't smilies/biggrin.gif

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Just to check, were you fully Sindar or did you have other blood too?

[elven maiden Earwen]

I would answer that but my prime source for info is down (Encycolopdyia of Arda). Is it just me or can nobody get on it? smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

No, it's quite alright; we'll keep guessing at least for now. So were you killed? You must have been I suppose... were you a famous/well-known figure?

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Earwen- the encyclopedia is back! Yes it was definitely down yesterday but not anymore.

[elven maiden Earwen]

YAY!!!Party! OK I'm over it.

He was fully Sindar
and he did die
and he wasn't that well-known are famous (not a king or anything like that) smilies/wink.gif

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Is it Eol?

[elven maiden Earwen]

Yup smilies/biggrin.gif

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Ok then! I've been wanting to do this for ages... I bet that means someone will get it straight away!

I was a mother

[elven maiden Earwen]

Were you human?

[The Saucepan Man]

Did you live in the First Age?

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

Did you have more than one child?

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Are you Elvish?

[Lyra Greenleaf]

The answers:
No I was not human, no I did not live in the first age, no I was not an Elf, yes I had more than one child.

[The Saucepan Man]

Are you Dis, Thorin's sister and mother of Fili and Kili?

[Lyta_Underhill]

Are you Shelob, offspring of Ungoliant and mother of countless offspring who now reside in Mirkwood?

[elven maiden Earwen]

Are you a hobbit?

[Meneltarmacil]

Were you a Hobbit?

[Lyra Greenleaf]

I was not Dis, or Shelob. I was a Hobbit.

[Lyta_Underhill]

Were you Rosie Cotton, mother of a gaggle of Gardeners?

[elven maiden Earwen]

Or could you be Malva Headstrong.

[The Saucepan Man]

How about Primula Baggins (nee Brandybuck), mother of Frodo?

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Technically the heirs of Hador were Lords (of Dor-Lomin) rather than kings.

So perhaps you are Finrod? He took the High Kingship of the Eldar in Beleriand after Fingolfin's death; and young Erenion, later known as Gil-Galad, he sent to the Havens in this time (just after the Battle of Sudden Flame, while 'troubles' were occuring) for his protection.

[Dior]

I think you're in the wrong thread....

[Lyra Greenleaf]

I was neither Rosie, Malva nor Primula (who only had one child anyway smilies/wink.gif ).

EDIT: I'm not Finrod either, as you might have guessed!

[ July 24, 2003: Message edited by: Lyra Greenleaf ]

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Hmm, you're right, I am in the wrong thread. I'll just wander off again shall I...

[Eruanna]

Are you Eglantine Banks, who married Paladin Took and had 4 children (including Pippin)?

[The Saucepan Man]

Primula (who only had one child anyway)

Oops! I failed to spot that particular clue. smilies/rolleyes.gif

Since Lyra is on holiday, she has asked me to look after this question on her behalf (which of course means I can no longer guess smilies/frown.gif ).

So you are looking for a Hobbit mother who had more than one child. And it's not Rosie Cotton, Malva Headstrong or (obviously smilies/rolleyes.gif ) Primula Baggins ... or indeed Eglantine Banks.

Someone had better get it this week, as I'm off on holday myself next weekend. smilies/tongue.gif

[elven maiden Earwen]

Berylla Boffin?

[Orofaniel]

*finds her "tree" from LOTR*

Mimosa Bunce? smilies/rolleyes.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

Nope, it's neither Berylla or Mimosa, I'm afraid.

[elven maiden Earwen]

Ruby Bolger or Laura Grubb?

[The Saucepan Man]

Nope, neither of those.

I should add that, on the family trees in the Appendices to LotR, I can see only one child of this Hobbit mother, although I believe that Lyra had two offspring in mind.

[ July 28, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

[elven maiden Earwen]

Trying to narrow it down. Did she go to Bilbo's birthday party?

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

Did she live in Hobbiton?

[The Saucepan Man]

Yes, she attended Bilbo's birthday party. And no, I don't believe that she did live in Hobbiton (either before or after her marriage).

[Iarwain]

I must guess that you are Lobelia Sackville-Baggins. I'm not quite sure that she had more children than our dearest Lotho, but otherwise she seems to match.

Iarwain

P.S. Never mind. It it most likely that she did live in Hobbiton after the sale of Bag End. Oh well.

[ July 30, 2003: Message edited by: Iarwain ]

[Beren87]

Just stopping in to welcome Iarwain, man of the yellow boots, to the Quiz Room. Have fun, mate!

-Beren

[Iarwain]

Why, thank'ee, Beren. I've never been welcomed before... smilies/smile.gif

Iarwain

[The Saucepan Man]

Yes, howdy Iarwain. Hope you stick around for a while. smilies/smile.gif

But I am afraid that the answer is not poor old Lobelia.

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

I'll guess Hilda Bracegirdle? Not sure if she went to the party, but other than that she fits.

[The Saucepan Man]

Nope.

OK, to try to hurry things along a bit, here is a clue. This character's son played more than an incidental role in LotR.

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

Hmm... is it Lily Cotton?

[Luthien_ Tinuviel]

I'm going to guess that it's Esmeralda Took, who married Saradoc Brandybuck, and was the mother of Merry Brandybuck.

[The Saucepan Man]

No, but keep going. You'll get there eventually. smilies/tongue.gif

[Luthien_ Tinuviel]

Is it Asphodel Brandybuck, who married Rufus Burrows, and whose son was Milo Burrows?

[The Saucepan Man]

No.

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Sorry, I didn't know it was going to be quite this hard... As for the other child, I thought that -ahem- she was a pretty well established fact although she's not in the appendices' family trees.

[The Dragon Maiden]

Er, is it Bell Goodchild, mother of Samwise and numerous others??

[Manardariel]

Rosamunda Boldger, née Took, mother of Fatty Boldger and Estella Boldger (who ended up marrying Merry)??

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Manan has it! Well done. Take your turn and welcome. Now I can go to the books and try to find out if Estella exists. I thought that before people might have put 2 and 2 together and got the answer.

[Manardariel]

Ohh, cool. But, Lyra, Estella IS in the appedixes.... smilies/wink.gif smilies/tongue.gif

~*We were umwearied, once.*~

Who are we?

[The Dragon Maiden]

Are we human?

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Did we marry each other?

PS- where in the appendices?

[Manardariel]

Both no! smilies/smile.gif

Lyra- the Brandybuck Familytree, I believe. smilies/smile.gif

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

Were you the Elves?

[ August 18, 2003: Message edited by: Horse-Maiden of the Shire ]

[elven maiden Earwen]

Are you hobbits?

[Manardariel]

AND THAT WOULD BE........wrong! smilies/smile.gif Still not what I´m looking for, no!

[Iarwain]

Are you Tulkas and Aule?

[The Saucepan Man]

Are you the Istari?

[Manardariel]

Noooooooo. (this is fun.....)

Hint, perhaps?? smilies/wink.gif

[Beren87]

What is the meaning of the word "umwearied"?

[Manardariel]

\Un*wea"ried\, a. Not wearied; not fatigued or tired; hence, persistent; not tiring or wearying; indefatigable Hope that helped! smilies/smile.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

Indeedy.

Are you of the Ainur?

[Beren87]

Spell it correctly, next time. smilies/wink.gif Notice you said "umwearied".

Have you ever seen the undying lands?

[Evisse the Blue]

Are you dwarfs?

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

Dwarves! Dwarves, I say! smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

Were you involved in the last battle against Sauron?

[Manardariel]

Are you dwarfs? Yes, we are dwarVES. But as I can´t spell myself (sorry!), there ya go! smilies/smile.gif

[Evisse the Blue]

Sorry - my mistake - dwarves. As long as you're not talking about Snow White and the seven dwarfs smilies/biggrin.gif - which I hope you're not. smilies/wink.gif

So- are you from the First Age?

[Manardariel]

well, kind of, yes. smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Evisse the Blue]

Are you the Dwarves of Belegost who worked for Thingol?

[Manardariel]

Not specifically, no. smilies/smile.gif

[Evisse the Blue]

Then you're the dwarves of Belegost -period. Correct?

[Manardariel]

I guess. smilies/smile.gif Actually I was referring to Gimli´s Song in Moria, but I guess you got it anyways.

Your turn!

[Evisse the Blue]

Okay, thanks.
I carry messages

[Manardariel]

Gandalf?
I don´t know why it just came to me, with the whole "lathspell" thingy... smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Dancing_Hobbit]

Radagast?

[Evisse the Blue]

Nope, neither of them.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Can I join?
Gwaihir(sp?)

[Evisse the Blue]

Nope. (spelling is correct, though smilies/wink.gif )

[Eruanna]

The moth that takes the message from Gandalf to Gwaihir?

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Take that fancied, movie embroidery rubbish out of here please. smilies/smile.gif It was Radagast that sent Gwaihir to Orthanc.

[Joy]

Roäc?

[Sleepy Ranger]

Sorry 'bout that I meant Thorondor. I was just too sleepy to think properly it was late in my part of the world. smilies/biggrin.gif

[ August 30, 2003: Message edited by: Sleepy Ranger ]

[Evisse the Blue]

Neither of the above. (was that a moth? Always wondered what creature that was smilies/tongue.gif ).

Ask me about the character's race if you want a hint.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Ok Hint Please smilies/biggrin.gif

[BlingBlingtheWarriorElf]

Is it Legolas
You know I come with a message

[Evisse the Blue]

No, it's not Lego.
The character is of the race of Men.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Could it be Earendil?or Amandil?

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

Ohtar, perhaps?

[Evisse the Blue]

Nope.

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

Ooh! Ooh! Is it Hirgon?

[Evisse the Blue]

No, not Hirgon.
HINT no2: Think younger.

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

I'll guess Borondir, messenger of Cirion to Eorl, if you perhaps mean younger in terms of date.

[Evisse the Blue]

No, not younger in terms of date - but in terms of character's age. This should be a dead giveaway.

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

Hmm...is it Bergil?

[Evisse the Blue]

Yes! Uh! Finally. Bergil it is. Remember, he told Pippin he was running errands for the healers when they met on the battlefield.

Next please, Horse-maiden! smilies/smile.gif

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

Aha! Excellent.

I was ancient.

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

I seem to get the feeling I should know who this is.

Were you of the First Age?

[Evisse the Blue]

Are you an Ent?

[The Saucepan Man]

Are you an enigma? smilies/wink.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

Not too sure, no, and *sighs*...yes.

[Evisse the Blue]

Oh my! Are you Tom Bombadil aka Ea, aka The Potential Reader in LOTR aka ...I think I'll stop here smilies/biggrin.gif

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

Evisse, you are correct.

[Evisse the Blue]

The credit should really go to The Saucepan Man, as he made the actual guess. Not too many famous enigmas in LOTR smilies/wink.gif
But - I'll bite.

I am the last of my kind.

Go on now, give it a wave smilies/wink.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

Well I'll take the credit but not the turn then. smilies/wink.gif

Did you live in the Third Age?

[Evisse the Blue]

Did you live in the Third Age?

Yes.

[The Saucepan Man]

OK then. Are you humanoid in appearance.

[Beren87]

Do you have eight legs?

[Evisse the Blue]

Umm, yep, Beren, I am an eight-legged monster. smilies/biggrin.gif

[Beren87]

Something tells me you're Shelob. smilies/wink.gif

[Evisse the Blue]

Yes, I am She. smilies/tongue.gif
(if I may be allowed a little question that doesn't belong here - what happened to me after Sauron fell?)

[Beren87]

The general opinion is that you died, starved to death because of the wounds inflicted by Sam.

I kept food and people.

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

Did you live in the Third Age?

[Beren87]

I existed in the Third Age. smilies/wink.gif

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

Existed, lived; same thing! smilies/biggrin.gif

Did you "exist" in Gondor?

[Evisse the Blue]

Or maybe in the Shire?

[Beren87]

Existed, lived; same thing!

Not in the slightest.

No, and yes.

[The Saucepan Man]

Are you the Lockholes in Michel Delving, storage smials converted into prisons by Sharkey's mob?

[Beren87]

You make it look easy, my friend. smilies/wink.gif

You're up.

[The Saucepan Man]

I try (with varying degrees of success). smilies/rolleyes.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

OK, next starter for ten:

I received a gift

[alquadae]

Are you Edain?

[Beren87]

Did you live in the Third Age?

[Evisse the Blue]

Was the gift given to you by an Elf? Galadriel?

[The Saucepan Man]

Yes I am Edain.
No I did not live in the Third Age.
No the gift was not given to me by an Elf.

[Evisse the Blue]

Did you receive Numenor from the Valar?

[The Saucepan Man]

Nope.

[Evisse the Blue]

Are you Turin?

[The Saucepan Man]

Not Turin, no. smilies/evil.gif

[Eruanna]

Sador?
Friend of Turin, to whom Turin gave the gift of a knife ( a birthday gift from his father)

[The Saucepan Man]

Ah, you took the hint from my evil smilie. smilies/smile.gif

I am indeed Sador. Well done, Eruanna. Pray continue.

[Eruanna]

I must confess 'twas indeed your evil smile that gave the game away smilies/wink.gif

I became a king

[Evisse the Blue]

Are you from the Third Age?

[The Saucepan Man]

Did you become King of Gondor?

[Eruanna]

No, I am not.

[Eruanna]

Nope.

[The Saucepan Man]

Are you an Elf?

[Evisse the Blue]

Are you Finrod?

[Eruanna]

I am indeed an elf, but I am not Finrod. smilies/smile.gif

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

Are you Gil-galad?

[Eruanna]

I am not Gil-galad.
Shall I give another clue?

[The Saucepan Man]

Are you the Eggman, perchance, Eruanna? Or perhaps the Walrus? (Sorry, but I just saw your wonderful location.)

Seriously, are you Fingolfin?

[Eruanna]

Well, previously I was "Sitting on a cornflake, waiting for the van to come" but I got tired of waiting so.... smilies/wink.gif

I am not Fingolfin, although we were close smilies/evil.gif

[Evisse the Blue]

You are Turgon.

[Eruanna]

Not Turgon.

To clarify:

I did not live in the Third Age.
I am not Finrod, Gil-galad or Fingolfin.
I am an elf.

I became King because another died.

[King_Elendil]

Feanor! He became King when Finwe died!

[Lyta_Underhill]

Or it could be Fingon, son of Fingolfin, who became High King of the Noldor when Fingolfin died in single combat with Morgoth...

[ September 15, 2003: Message edited by: Lyta_Underhill ]

[The Saucepan Man]

Since it's getting rather long, the time has come to close this thread.

Please open a new thread if you wish to continue the game - and don't forget to include the game rules, the current question and all clues given so far.

Thanks. smilies/smile.gif