Slain Game

[Legolas]

A relatively easy game.

State the name of a character who is slain in Tolkien's works, and the rest of us try to think of who slayed them and if location is given, where they were slain.

I'll start with one that's not-so-hard.

Finwë

[Rimbaud]

By Melkor, before the doors of Formenos in Valinor. Melkor stole the Silmarils at this time.

Ancalagon the Black.

[Legolas]

Eärendil, over the towers of Thangorodrim.

[Rimbaud]

Indeed, sir.

[Legolas]

Draugluin

[Telchar]

Slain in battle with Huan hound of Valinor on Tol in Gauhort

[Rimbaud]

Drauglin was knocked off by Huan, Hound of Valinor, if I remember correctly. Another nasty dog-fight...

[ October 08, 2002: Message edited by: Rimbaud ]

[Legolas]

Indeed. Draugluin was mortally wounded, and returned to the high tower where Sauron watched. There he died at his master's feet.

Your turn, Telchar.

[Telchar]

Gelmir (my favorite)

[Telchar]

And on a side note I thin Scatha the worm was killed by Fram Lord of the Northmen - who afterwards send the Worms/dragons teeth to the dwarwes as an insult .... Its still Gelmir.

[Legolas]

The riders with tokens sent out by one of Morgoth's commanders and the heralds of Morgoth in front of Eithel Sirion. They did a really bad number on him, too!

[Telchar]

Yep poor Gelmir smilies/wink.gif

[Legolas]

Azaghâl

[Turambar]

Glaurung ?

[Legolas]

When or where?

[Legolas]

No, the person being slain is Azaghâl.

Glaraung is the answer, of course, given by Turambar. He needs to give me the when or where part, and then he can proceed to posing his own question.

[Eruhen]

Can I answer? I know the full answer. Pleeeeeeeeaaaase????????

[Turambar]

He was killed in the Nirnaeth, not sure exactly where.

Sorry for not reading the rules !

[Legolas]

That is sufficient. Continue!

[gralin musicteeth]

Isildur?

[Turambar]

Mîm the petty dwarf -- by whom and where ?

[ October 11, 2002: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Susan Delgado]

Deservedly killed by Hurin in Nargothrond.

[Turambar]

Correct !! Sorry I'm late in verifying.

[Susan Delgado]

okelly dokelly

Durelan (I think that's his name, but I don't have my book with me to be certain)

[Telchar]

Are you thinking about Duilin of Morthond, who (along with his brother) was tramped to death by mumakil on the Battle of the Pelennor Field.?

[ October 19, 2002: Message edited by: Telchar ]

[Susan Delgado]

No, that's not whom I meant. He's in the Silm.

edit: I found his name at last: it's Daeron I'm thinking of.

[ October 20, 2002: Message edited by: Susan Delgado ]

[Telchar]

Ahh Tricksy Susan smilies/wink.gif - If this is 'by who and whare', I say by nobody and nowhere...

[Susan Delgado]

You are correct, Master Dwarf smilies/wink.gif

[Telchar]

Theoden

[Turambar]

Snowmane I guess . . .

[Telchar]

ohh yes smilies/smile.gif

[Turambar]

Bolg the orc (son of Azog).

[Telchar]

He was killed in the Battle of Five Armies by Beorn

[Turambar]

Yep !!

[Telchar]

Gorbag

[Lindolirian]

Stabbed in the throat by Shagrat.

[Legolas]

Verification, Telchar?

[Legolas]

Well, just go ahead, Lindolirian. Telchar is missing in action.

[Legolas]

Or I shall go, I suppose.

Carcharoth

[Pallando B.C]

Huan, the Hound of Valinor.

Carcharoth slew him in the process, which is a shame because Huan was pretty enjoyable to read......

[Legolas]

Yes - where at? smilies/cool.gif

[Pallando B.C]

in Doraith

[Legolas]

Your turn. smilies/cool.gif

[Pallando B.C]

Dior

[Pallando B.C]

Clue: It's not 1 person

[Beren87]

The sons of Feanor in Menegroth.

[Pallando B.C]

You seem to get all my Questions right Beren...I'll have to make them harder.

[Beren87]

Hmm, like I say, I don't know everything...

Who killed Maeglin where and how?

[Pallando B.C]

Tuor slew him by casting him far out onto the rocky slopes of Amon Gwareth.

[Beren87]

Well, threw him from Caragdur, but same thing.

Your turn Pallando!

[Pallando B.C]

Ok, Azaghâl

[Beren87]

Slain by Glaurung, in a battle who's name I can't remember and can't look up, and he wounded the dragon.

[Pallando B.C]

The Nirnaeth Arnoediad was the battle.

Yes, you're correct!

[Beren87]

*deep bow* thanks for giving that to me.

Who caused the death of Shelob? (she dies because she couldn't do something because she was wounded too bad)

[Lindolirian]

Gollum, because he fell in with the Ring, and then She could not flee the ruin of Barad-dûr because of the prick she received from Sam's sword.

[Beren87]

Hmm...I was thining Sam myself, both either works come to think of it.

Your turn.

[Lindolirian]

Dorlas

[Beren87]

Brandir.

[Lindolirian]

Yes.

[Beren87]

Lovely!

Girion.

[Lindolirian]

The Lord of Dale? Smaug it would be then.

[Beren87]

The one and only Girion, correct!

[Lindolirian]

The father of Wulf.

[Beren87]

Freca was the father of Wulf, and he was slain by Lord Helm for insulting him.

[Lindolirian]

I thought it was pretty funny too. It is your turn.

[Beren87]

How was Guthlaf slain?(and for extra points, what does his name mean?)

[akhtene]

Guthlaf means 'survivor in the battle'
He was slain in the battle on the Pelenor Fields, during the attack of the Witch King.

[Beren87]

You are correct akhtene.

[akhtene]

Where and how did Thorin Oakenshield's father die?

[Beren87]

In the dungeon of the Necromancer.

[akhtene]

How did he die?

[Beren87]

After bein tortured for five years...didn't he just like die right in there.

[akhtene]

Ok, I take that. Procede.

[Beren87]

Snaga

[zacattack]

Eaves of Fangorn Forest
Riders of Rohan

PS:I assume you mean the Snaga that was used as a scout when Grishnak and others took Merry and Pippin captive because there are heaps of Snaga's because Snaga's are lower orcs, like slaves.

[Beren87]

Ah, did not know that. Thanks for the info, but yes that was what I mean.

Your turn zacattack.

[Pallando B.C]

It's been well over 10 days so I will continue......

Girion.

[Iarwain]

Already been done, but it was Smaug.

[Pallando B.C]

Has it? Well thank you Iarwain for making a fool out of me! Nah, just kidding, thank you for bringing it to my attention.

Your Turn!

[Beren87]

Its been 10 days.

Denethor, (The Elf one)

[Pallando B.C]

By Orcs one would reckon. Upon Amon Ereb in the First Battle of Beleriand.

[Beren87]

Then one would be reckoning correctly.

[Pallando B.C]

Forweg

[Beren87]

Ah, tricksy, pulling from UT

He was killed by Turin, but I couldn't find when or where.

[Carrûn]

Killed by Turin while he was pursing the daughter of a man called Larnach in the woods beyond the west marches of Doriath.

[Pallando B.C]

Nice research Carrûn, but I'll naturally give it to Beren.

[Beren87]

Ah...well your choice Pallando.

What happened to Elwing? She didn't reallie die...

[ February 04, 2003: Message edited by: Beren87 ]

[Ultimatejoe]

She was raised by Ulmo in the form of a bird who flew to Earendil. She sailed with him to the Undying Lands and after her 'choice' she built a tall tower (that was most likely covered by bird-crap in short order) that she would fly from to meet Earendil and to converse/fly with the birds.

[Beren87]

Most elegantly said smilies/wink.gif So, in other words, she commited suicide and Ulmo played the role of Dr.Kavorkian.

Your turn.

[Beren87]

Now that its' been quite a while, something new.

Telperion

[elven maiden Earwen]

Slain by Melkor and Ungoliant(sp) with a black spear, in Valinor durring a time of festival(dont know what it was called).

[Beren87]

Correct! (I'd look up the name of the festival but its 12:30AM and I have to get up in 5 hours). Your turn!

[elven maiden Earwen]

its easy but:

Snowmane

[Faenaduial]

The Lord of the Nazgul at the battle of the Pelennor Fields

[elven maiden Earwen]

you are correct.

[Faenaduial]

Glorfindel

[elven maiden Earwen]

killed by a balrog in the first age while excaping from gondilon in beteen the eagles cleft or something like that

[Faenaduial]

That is correct. Your turn!

[elven maiden Earwen]

gandalf the grey

[Lyra Greenleaf]

is that by any chance a trick question as he never died? or do you mean that he was killed by the Balrog but returned? (or was that one of PJ's little ideas?)

[elven maiden Earwen]

lyra you are correct. Gandalf the gray was lkilled by the balrog and then returned as Gandalf the white.

by the way i love your avatar. where did you get it?

[ March 16, 2003: Message edited by: elven maiden Earwen ]

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Thank you, I love it too! smilies/wink.gif I got it from a site called Cadfaels Avatars, though I don't know the address. It has lots of fantasy-type pictures.

Who killed King Minadil?

[ March 18, 2003: Message edited by: Lyra Greenleaf ]

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Anybody there? Answer it, please!

[Annunfuiniel]

Ok, here comes the answer to your question: the corsairs of Umbar.
smilies/smile.gif

[Lyra Greenleaf]

yes, thats it!

[Annunfuiniel]

Well then, who slew Folcred and Fastred?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Weren't they killed by the Haradrim fighting with Gondor?

[Annunfuiniel]

They indeed were. Oh, so sad... smilies/frown.gif
Well, life goes on and so does this thread! Please proceed, Sophia! smilies/smile.gif

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

How did Earnur die?

[Beren87]

He rode to Minas Morgul and neva came back!

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

ooh... sorry it took so long... yes, you're right smilies/smile.gif

[Beren87]

Heh...

Something easy as my head hurts, Fingon.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Gothmog killed him, but I don't remember when/what circumstances.

[Beren87]

Well then you need to look it up. smilies/wink.gif

[Pallando B.C]

It was during the Nirnaeth Arnoediad.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

*sighs* blast computer access at work smilies/wink.gif

[Beren87]

Pallando has it!

Sorry Sophia, there's always next time. smilies/biggrin.gif

[Pallando B.C]

Very Cool smilies/cool.gif choice Dry Bones!

Frór

[Beren87]

Huh..you caught me, I have no idea who that is. A dwarf I bet...hmm...

Ah! Son of Dain I, killed along with his daddy by a Dragon.

[ April 02, 2003: Message edited by: Beren87 ]

[Pallando B.C]

Damn! I thought I had you for a sec.

[Beren87]

Oh you did, for a sec. smilies/wink.gif

Lomion.

[Pallando B.C]

Thrown into fire from the walls of Gondolin by Tour.

[Beren87]

That's right Pallando!

[Pallando B.C]

Cool Bananas!

Huor.

[Mauwurz]

Slain by an Arrow in the Nirnaeth Arnodiad.

[Pallando B.C]

Of Course!

[Mauwurz]

Saruman

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Killed (stabbed) by Grima Wormtongue in the Shire

[Eruanna]

Saruman had his throat cut by Grima Wormtongue.

Must Type faster.......

[ April 13, 2003: Message edited by: Eruanna ]

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

*gulps* did he cut his throat or stab him?
Good Question... *runs for the book*

[Mauwurz]

Yeah,that's correct

[Mauwurz]

Yeah,that's correct

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

which? who?

[Legolas]

You.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

lol... thanks.

Gorlim

[Nerindel]

Gorlim was cruelly put to death by Sauron (after being tricked into betraying Barahir)

[ April 22, 2003: Message edited by: Nerindel ]

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

yes indeed

[Evisse the Blue]

Mablung (the 1st Age one).

[Eruanna]

Slain by dwarves during the sack of menegroth.

[Evisse the Blue]

Indeed.

[Eruanna]

smilies/smile.gif
Oropher.

[Telchar]

Oropher was killed in the battle of the Last Alliance - thats all I can come up with right now ...

[Eruanna]

That's right...your turn smilies/smile.gif

[Telchar]

Orgof

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Slain by a cup thrown by Turin, later morphed into Saeros

[Telchar]

That is indeed correct. Go on... smilies/smile.gif

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Morgoth.

[Telchar]

ohhh I didnt know he had died just yet? I mean he hasn't returned, and the world hasn't ended ... if it is the Dagor Dagorath prophesy you are refering to? In which case the prophesy tells us that Turin is his banesman killing him with his black sword.
Otherwise there are the cases where his i overcome by the Valar or wounded but Fingolfin and Thorondor.

[Beren87]

Oh Windlord!

I'm anxious to hear the answer. I would say Turin, as Telchar did, but I wonder if that's what you emean.

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Turin will do, although that's uncertain ground. But the other answer was Namo, Mandos, who in Morgoth's Ring (apparently smilies/smile.gif) slays Morgoth after his being brought to Valinor; it is thus his bodyless spirit that is locked outside Arda. Go ahead Telchar.

[Telchar]

Umbarto

[NightKnight]

Killed in the attack on the people at the Mouth of Sirion. Umbarto = Amrod, son of Fëanor.

[Telchar]

Yeah, but thats not what Im looking for...
Umbarto had a different end than the later caracter of Amrod.

[Beren87]

This is a stickler..

I found a reference to Amrod's mother, Ambarussa, as Umbarto. Is that it?

[Telchar]

Actually using Ambarussa would have been a little too tricky even for me smilies/wink.gif as that name was used for both Amrod and Amras (at the same time) I could however have used Ambarto as well as Umbarto as both names were used for amrod at the same time, and the time I was referring to. At the stage of development in JRR Tolkiens writings where the name U/Ambarto (meaning the fated) was used, the way Amrods life ended was different from that of the later history - its that ending Im looking for. Hope that clears it up.

[Beren87]

Hmm..confusing, at first.

Well then when Feanor burned the stolen ships at Losgar, he assembled his sons on the shore and only six of them. Ambarussa told him that Ambarto had slept on his ship. Feanor realised that that ship he had burned first and they speak of how Umbarto is a fitting name. Then, an end note says that Ambarussa's name became Amros in Sindarin (not Amrod, as recorded in The Silmarillion). So..wherever The Silmarillion speaks of Amrod and Amras after the burning at Losgar, then one has to realise that only Amros was present.

So.. he was burned to death by Feanor?

[Telchar]

Perfect. Go on....

[Beren87]

How am I supposed to follow that one up? smilies/rolleyes.gif

The son of Aravir

[NightKnight]

That would be Aragorn I, killed by wolves.

[Beren87]

You've got it. smilies/smile.gif

[NightKnight]

Forlong.

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Forlong the fat... he was killed in the Battle of the Pellenor, but the name of the soldier of Mordor or Harad that slew him is not specified.

[NightKnight]

That was the answer I was looking for, please continue.

[Telchar]

Forweg

[Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar]

Slain by Turin Turambar in a forest near the camp of outlaws, of which he was chief, i believe.

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 3:13 PM December 13, 2003: Message edited by: Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar ]

[Telchar]

Correct!

[Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar]

Whoa... I never thought I would actually get one right...
OK, lets see...

Ulwarth

[Telchar]

Borlach - Borlad - Borthand...

Could be any of the above...

[Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar]

Yes, that is correct, telchar. I expected someone to get that quickly. smilies/smile.gif

Your turn.

[Telchar]

Faramir

[Finwe]

Easterlings?

[Telchar]

Correct

[Finwe]

All righty then!

Mim

[Telchar]

Slain in Nargothrond by Hurin

[Finwe]

Right!

[Telchar]

Mablung

[Gil-numen]

Slain by Dwarves in Menegroth.

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"Show it to me"
Thingol to Beren

[Telchar]

yep!

[Gil-numen]

Ornendil

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"Show it to me"
Thingol to Beren

[LovelyLalaith]

Castamir?

[NightKnight]

Executed by Castamir in Osgiliath during the Kin-Strife.

[Gil-numen]

NightKnight you got it.

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"Show it to me"
Thingol to Beren

[NightKnight]

Gwindor.

[Finwe]

Glaurung? The Glamhoth?

[NightKnight]

Yeah, orcsesss was what I was looking for. smilies/tongue.gif Go on. smilies/smile.gif

[Finwe]

Ah. Ok.

Folca

[symestreem]

The boar of Everholt that lived in the Firien Wood. He killed it, but died because it got him with its tusks.

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 4:40 PM January 01, 2004: Message edited by: symestreem ]

[Finwe]

Yep. Your go.

[symestreem]

Sorry if this shows up twice, but the first one isn't showing up.

Brodda.

[nobody]

Brodda was killed in his hall by Túrin.

[symestreem]

Yes. Your turn.

[nobody]

How about...Zigûr?

[Gil-numen]

Zigur is Sauron and his final defeat came at the hands of Gollum.

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"Show it to me"
Thingol to Beren

[nobody]

But he wasn't really killed - just reduced to an impotent spirit. Try again.

[Gil-Galad]

Isildur cut off his ring

[nobody]

No that didn't actually kill him.

[Gil-Galad]

well you said Gollum falling into Mt.Doom didn't kill him, when actually thats when he ceased too exist and his power gone, he laso died at Numenore i guess... well lost his body

[Lord of Angmar]

Dagor Dagorath?

[Finwe]

Since Zigur was the name that the Numenoreans once used for Sauron, it could also mean the latter's Numenorean "identity." That body was slain during the destruction of Numenor, presumably "by" the chasm that Numenor fell into.

[nobody]

Lord of Angmar: Yes he was killed in Dagor Dagorath, but don't you need to say who killed him?

[Lord of Angmar]

Yes, you do have to name the slayer, my mistake. Unfortunately, I cannot remember who his prophecized slayer would be, but I shall take a stab at it: Olorin?

[nobody]

Yes correct

[Lord of Angmar]

That was a nice question, nobody. Very tricksy.

[Gil-Galad]

fyi, he wasn't really killed, just made into a weaker spirit, since he was connected with the ring...

and when Numenore was destroyed, thats when sauron lost his first form and fled too mordor, so he was kinda killed then too, just made into a weaker spirit till his strength regained

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 1:06 PM January 04, 2004: Message edited by: Gil-Galad ]

[Lord of Angmar]

fyi, he wasn't really killed, just made into a weaker spirit, since he was connected with the ring...

It has already been agreed upon that Sauron never truly 'died' until he was slain in the Dagor Dagorath, and then for all intents and purposes he truly was 'dead.'

[NightKnight]

Nobody's been here for a while now, so I'll take it:

Who killed Curufinwë, and when?

[Ruitha]

Gothmog, during the Battle Under the Stars (Dagor-nuin-Giliath, the 2nd battle in the Wars of Beleriand), after he rode ahead of his army in pursuit of Orcs.

[NightKnight]

You're right, your turn. smilies/smile.gif

[Ruitha]

Okay ... when, and by whom, was Nain son of Gror slain?

[NightKnight]

TA 2799 in the Battle of Azanulbizar, by Azog.

[Ruitha]

Great, go ahead. smilies/smile.gif

[NightKnight]

Thank you.

By who and on what occasion was Elured killed?

[Ruitha]

Oooh, that's an evil one. He was lost during the assault on Doriath by the sons of Feanor; the servants of Celegorm seized him and his brother Elurin and left them to starve in the forest. Maedhros searched for them, but they were never found.
Is that okay?

[NightKnight]

Absolutely! Your turn. smilies/smile.gif

[Ruitha]

Thanks. smilies/smile.gif
By whom, and under what circumstances, was Uldor slain?

[Mariska Greenleaf]

Uldor the Accursed was slain by Maglor in the Battle of Unnumbered Tears.

[Ruitha]

That's fine, go for it. smilies/smile.gif

[Mariska Greenleaf]

Thanks!

In what circumstances was Ostoher killed?

[NightKnight]

I assume you mean the king of Cardolan, in that case he was killed fighting against Angmar. The other Ostoher, king of Gondor, died of old age.

[Mariska Greenleaf]

I meant the one that was slain of course.
Your go! smilies/wink.gif

[NightKnight]

How did Maedhros die?

[Ruitha]

He was under such torment due to holding a Silmaril, he cast himself into a fire-filled chasm in the earth.

[NightKnight]

Right-o! Your go!

[Miriel]

Um ... well, I'm Ruitha ... lost her password and only had entered my old email address ... so *shrugs* I can't prove it, so you'd maybe be best to do another, NightKnight, and give me a chance to get it under this name. smilies/wink.gif

[NightKnight]

I believe you, but anyway, here's an easy one: How did Elenwe die?

[Miriel]

Lost in the crossing of Helcaraxë.

[NightKnight]

Yes, your turn. Again. :P

[Miriel]

*grins*
Thanks!
Okay ... how did Leod die?

[Legolas]

From Appendix A, II: House of Eorl:

He captured a white foal and it grew quickly to a horse strong, and fair, and proud. No man could tame it. When Léod dared to mount it, it bore him away, and at last threw him, and Léod's head struck a rock, and so he died. He was then only two and forty years old, and his son a youth of sixteen.

I think everyone should note that this game is about characters who were *slain* - not those that simply died. They had to be killed by someone. Each new person states a character that was killed by another, and the answer will be the slayer and the location of the slaying, if given.

[Miriel]

Sorry.
Go ahead, Legolas. :)

[Arvedui III]

*Bump*

Umm...Legolas?

[Gil-Galad]

been more then ten days... my turn!!!


Name the two wielders of spears, and name one of their kills(choose one kill for one of he wielders)

[NightKnight]

Gil-galad and Beren used spears, and Beren killed the leader of the dwarves that had sacked Doriath.

[Gil-Galad]

i was going for Gil-Galad and Eomer, since Eomer killed the haradrim leader.. but i'll accept that, your go nightknight!

[NightKnight]

I'm tired, so here comes an easy one: Who killed Ecthelion?

[Gil-Galad]

Gothmog!!!:smokin:

[NightKnight]

Yup. Your turn. :)

[Gil-Galad]

Name probaly the only elf that was beheaded for a greater cause

[NightKnight]

Gelmir.

[Gil-Galad]

yep!

[NightKnight]

Who killed Dior?

[Gil-Galad]

One of teh Sons

[NightKnight]

More exactly?

[Legolas]

Still some people getting away from this thread's purpose - you name a person that was the slain, then everyone tries to guess who killed them and where it happened.

There fell Celegorm by Dior's hand, and there fell Curufin, and dark Caranthir; but Dior was slain also, and Nimloth his wife, and the cruel servants of Celegorm seized his young sons and left them to starve in the forest.

So the forces of Feanor's sons killed Dior there in the Thousand Caves, but the person who did it is not named.

[NightKnight]

Oops, my mistake. I thought of it the other way around, that Celegorm killed Dior. Legolas, you may continue.

[Legolas]

Mablung

[NightKnight]

Killed outside the treasury by the dwarves of Nogrod when they attacked Doriath after Thingol's death, guarding the silmaril.

[Gil-Galad]

Killed by orcs when they raided Osgiliath

[Legolas]

NightKnight has it. The floor is yours.

[NightKnight]

Fror.