Odd creature out!!

[Tarien Ithil]

Hey, and welcome to Tarien’s FIRST Quiz! OK, please name the odd CHARACTER out. OK, the first one’s rather easy. Have a go… smilies/biggrin.gif

1) Arod
2) Asfaloth
3) Hasufel
4) Shelob

Have fun!

[ July 01, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

[Eruanna]

There is already an "Odd Man Out" thread , Tarien. Maybe you could try your luck there. smilies/smile.gif smilies/smile.gif

[Annunfuiniel]

Or if you want to start a new quiz maybe this would then be the odd CREATURE out? Just a thought...

~Annun

[Legolas]

Shelob

[Tarien Ithil]

Well, yeah OK, thanks Eruanna smilies/smile.gif. We could do a odd CREATURE out instead! smilies/wink.gif Sorry 'bout the duplicate. smilies/confused.gif Oh, and Legolas you may continue if you like. smilies/smile.gif

[Elentarimir]

Hello?!?!?!?

A new question please?

[Beren87]

Tarien, you might want to Edit your first post a rename the thread. Just a suggestion as to not confuse.

And Elentarimir, if you're that worried about a new question, don't just yell out with no purpose, take time to PM Legolas, he is quite a busy person.

[The Saucepan Man]

OK, this game has been renamed so as to differentiate it from Odd Man Out.

Would anyone like to ask a new question?

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

I shall. I shall, I shall, I shall!

A)Crebain
B)Uruks
C)Orcs
D)Wargs

[BobTheGrey]

Crebain

[The Saucepan Man]

Bob, on multiple choice style threads like this, you should always give the reason for your answer. This ensures that no one gets the answer right on a 1 in 4 chance just by guessing.

So, you should explain why you think the Crebain are the odd creatures out (however obvious it may seem smilies/wink.gif ).

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Crebain were not present at any M-E battle, perhaps?

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

No...that's not the reason I was looking for.

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Was it that the Company were never actually attacked by them (Crebain)?

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

Nope. Come on, guys! I know I'm being a nitpick with this one, but it's fun. Think of their features. Use those dead brains of yours! smilies/biggrin.gif

[ July 05, 2003: Message edited by: Horse-Maiden of the Shire ]

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Features??? Was it that Crebain were the only ones with beaks, feathers and wings, perhaps? Or Wargs the only ones that walked on four legs?
I'm sure Crebain is the answer for some reason or other. :/ It certainly appears the be the odd one out.
Was it that they were not neccessarily evil?

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

Gwaihir, you got it. It was that Crebain were the only ones that had wings and could fly, and you got the wings part so I'll give it to you.

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Thanks.

Eagles
Crebain
Dragons
Thrushes

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

Is it that Crebain were the only species not involved in The Hobbit?

[Lëowen]

Dragons, there the only creature listed that's not a bird.

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

No and no, but maiden is close.

[Lëowen]

Thrushes, because they are the only ones not mentioned in LotR?

[LePetitChoux]

Crebain, because they weren't involved in the Battle of the Five Armies, or the preceding events?

[Tarien Ithil]

Thrushes? Because they are the only non-fantasy creature.

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

No, no, and no, I'm afraid. smilies/smile.gif Think 'variations', it might help.

Oh and sorry, but it wasn't the Horse-Maiden that I meant to say was 'close', but Leowen.

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Surely it can't be this, but....dragons, because there were lots of varieties- unlike all the birds, which were just thrushes (or whatever)?

[LePetitChoux]

Is it Thrushes, because the others have been altered in some way to make them more...interesting?

i.e. The Eagles have been made huge
The Crebain are Crows, but more evil
The Dragons can, er, talk

But the Thrushes can understand Thorin!

Hm.

Maybe it is thrushes?

[LePetitChoux]

Ooooh! I know!

It's Thrushes, because there was only one of them, whereas there were lots of Dragons, Eagles and Crebain.

Am I right? smilies/biggrin.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

Is it Dragons because there are wingless Dragons within Tolkien's works, Glaurung for example, whereas all Eagles, Crebain and Thrushes that appear are (not surprisingly) winged?

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Choux, your persistance... hasn't paid off. smilies/smile.gif Sorry. Lyra's guess was good, but also wrong.
Saucepans, however, is right -- Dragons being the only creature that cannot neccessarily fly; well done, your turn.

[The Saucepan Man]

Why thank you mighty Windlord. smilies/smile.gif

How about some farmyard favourites?

Cow
Dog
Pony
Sheep

[Tarien Ithil]

Pony? It's the only type of barnyard animal mentioned in LOTR?

[The Saucepan Man]

You are forgetting Farmer Maggot's hounds. smilies/wink.gif

So, no, that's not the answer.

[Cinderella]

Cow because it's the only animal too big for a Hobbit to ride!! ( I clearly have no idea...)

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Hmmm, I take it this is in relation to Tolkien somehow? =] In that case, Sheep, that race of mystical divine woolly things that bleateth and graze in the fields, as their meat is the only one recorded to be eaten in LotR (mutton).

[Gil-Galad]

a sheep was the only one not too appear or sound or have mention in the movie!!!

[The Saucepan Man]

a sheep was the only one not too appear or sound or have mention in the movie!!!

Was there a cow in either of the films?

Anyway, there is no correct answer so far. smilies/tongue.gif

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Is it a dog? The only choice of which more that one is written at once?

[The Saucepan Man]

But what about Tom's ponies? And those used by Bilbo and co in the Hobbit? So, no, I'm afraid that's not it.

[Gil-Galad]

in the first film you see a hobbit oulling a cow, and some pigs when Gandalf comes in

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

Is it Sheep, because Farmer Maggot didn't own one? I'm taking a huge guess here, as you can see...

[The Saucepan Man]

in the first film you see a hobbit oulling a cow

Sounds painful. smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/wink.gif But the answer is not to be found in the films.

Nor is it anything to do with Farmer Maggot. Think who else kept animals ...

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

Er...Butterbur didn't own sheep?

EDIT: I'm still hung up on the sheep! What is wrong with me? smilies/wink.gif

[ July 21, 2003: Message edited by: Horse-Maiden of the Shire ]

[Lëowen]

Nothing wrong with sheep. smilies/biggrin.gif

Um... a pony was the only animal to travel with the Fellowship?

[Luthien_ Tinuviel]

Sheep, because it's the only animal not to be mentioned in the chapter "At the Sign of the Prancing Pony"?

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Perhaps dog, as the only creature that appeared in a mythical or divine form (Huan, Carcharoth) rather than just mundanely.

[The Saucepan Man]

Nope, no one's got it yet. Look back to the clue I gave - it should provide a pretty big hint.

[Lëowen]

Could it be that a dog is not always found on a farmyard? Or that dogs can be found both in a farmyard and in other places? Or something like that?

[Beren87]

Cow, as it was the only animal that Beorn didn't have?

[The Saucepan Man]

Bingo! Well done, Beren. smilies/smile.gif There were dogs, ponies and sheep in Beorn's household, but alas no cows (well, as far as we are told anyway).

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Umm, so where did he get his milk?

[The Saucepan Man]

Umm, so where did he get his milk?

Perhaps he drank sheep's milk. smilies/eek.gif

But even if he kept cows (which is quite possible), they are not mentioned as being part of his household, like the sheep, dogs and ponies which lay the table and bring the food etc for supper.

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

True, although Beren's exact words were not to this effect.

Cow, as it was the only animal that Beorn didn't have?

smilies/smile.gif Never mind.

[The Saucepan Man]

Yes, but it would have been harsh not to give that one.

Beren, your go.

[Beren87]

Good point Gwaihir, I didn't even think of that...

Anyway, next one, it's a short one, but that's because I'm a bit out of time.

Balrog
Dragon
Vampire

[Dancing_Hobbit]

all of these are too obvious, but i'll check anyway. Vampire because it has nothing to do with fire or Middle Earth (unless there's a vampire in one of the books i haven't read yet). my other thought is dragon because it can fly and the others can't, unless, of course, you argue that the Balrog's wings were not metaphorical but were functional (which, of course, belongs on a different thread). smilies/smile.gif

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

smilies/smile.gif There sort of is a vampire, the Maia bat Thuringwethil who served under Sauron in the First Age (killed by Huan, I think it was (?)); therefore I will say Dragon. It is the only (as far as we know) non-Maiarin creature of the three.

[ElvenEyesLegolas]

I would have to say Balrog cuz its the only one found in the caves of moria

[Anything but Arwen]

Is it vampire, because the others emit fire of some sort?

[Gil-Galad]

Vampires in the first age flyed around sometimes,the first dragons were wingless and balrogs, though depicted with wings, never flew any where?

[Evisse the Blue]

Balrogs because they are the only ones who still existed in the Third Age (?)

[Anything but Arwen]

But there was Smaug in the Third Age

[Evisse the Blue]

You're right, Anything but Arwen, I forgot about that.
Well then, Dragons because they are their own masters?

[Anything but Arwen]

Meh. Im still holding with my nice simple idea, that vamps are the only ones to spout flames, or general burny-ness

[Anything but Arwen]

Hey! Am I the only one who remembered this thing? Beren! Helllp!

[Dancing_Hobbit]

I feel deserted!! I want a reply, please!

[Anything but Arwen]

Eru has spoken to me... hurry up and answer the damn thread!

[Evisse the Blue]

I PM-ed Beren, I hope he checks here soon...

[Beren87]

Ah, a few things to point out. First, it's customary to PM someone when they've forgotten about a thread, instead of making half a dozen useless posts.

Second, cursing isn't allowed on this form. I'm talking especially to Anything but Arwen, obviously. I've noticed you a few times now.

Last, but obviously not least, Master Windlord has the correct answer in that Dragons were not Maiar. I was debating whether or not to let the answer be Vampires, because they can't fly, but I thought someone would get annoyed at me throwing my personal opinion in there. smilies/wink.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

A few things to add. smilies/smile.gif

First, Beren is right. The occasional *bump* to bring the thread to the top is fine, but please try to avoid doing it too often. PM'ing the question-setter is a better idea, since the thread tends to get buried again pretty soon anyway. Or you can always wait 10 days and then ask a new question. smilies/tongue.gif

Secondly, I will edit a post if I consider that the language is unacceptable. smilies/rolleyes.gif

And finally, who says that Dragons were not inhabited by the spirits of Maia? smilies/wink.gif

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Thanks. (I take it you mean 'balrogs' rather than 'vampires', though, Beren??)

And 'as far as we know' were my words, Saucepans smilies/smile.gif...

Dog
Bear
Bat
Eagle

Easy of course, as it's sort of hard to think of a questionto ask in this thread.

[Evisse the Blue]

Bear because it's the name of a character (Beorn = bear) who could shapeshift into a bear form?

[Anything but Arwen]

I was going to say bear, but because all the others are animals that can talk: Dog- Huan, Bat- Errrm, the one Luthien changes into in the Silmarillion, snd Eagle - Thorondor etc...

[The Saucepan Man]

I will say Dog, because all the others were present in one form or another at the Battle of Five Armies.

A bear was present, in the form of Beorn. Bats were there too, swarming above the Goblin army. And of course Bilbo's famous cry heralded the arrival of the Eagles.

But, as far as I know, there was no Dog present at the battle.

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Go ahead, Saucepans.

[The Saucepan Man]

It would be a pleasure. smilies/smile.gif

Bear
Horse
Serpent
Swan

[tom bombariffic]

I'm going to go for horse, because the others were all forms taken by characters in the works of Tolkien...

-Sauron took the form of a snake when fighting Huan
-Beorn could take the appearance of a Bear
-I'm sure someone took the form of a Swan in the Silmarillion, but I can't remember who! I think it was a woman...hoom hoom. oh well.

just a guess

Bombariffic

[ October 07, 2003: Message edited by: tom bombariffic ]

[Turambar]

Elwing was changed to a seabird I think.

[tom bombariffic]

Yes, I think that was her...

Anyway, my final answer stands: HORSE!

Bombariffic

[Telchar]

Or maybe the OCO is the bear bacause a bear was not present on a banner in the Battle of the Pelennor Fields???

Black serpent on scarlet
White steed on a field of green
The swan of Dol Amroth

[The Saucepan Man]

Good answer, tom bombariffic (and nice nickname, by the way), but the Stonehearted Dwarf Smith gets it.

Go ahead, Telchar. smilies/smile.gif

[Telchar]

OK - Here we go:

Shadowfax
Arod
Windfola
Snowmane
Firefoot

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Arod was a pony.

[Telchar]

Arod was a pony.
I think not...

A smaller and lighter horse, but restive and fiery, was brought to Legolas. Arod was his name. But Legolas asked them to take off saddle and rein.
Smaller than Hasufel, yet a horse.


'Now I understand a part of last night's riddle,' said Legolas as he sprang lightly upon Arod's back. 'Whether they fled at first in fear, or not, our horses met Shadowfax, their chieftain, and greeted him with joy. Did you know that he was at hand, Gandalf?'


For indeed these are your own horses that we ride, as you knew well are you asked, I guess. But seldom does thief ride home to the stable. Here are Hasufel and Arod, that Éomer, the Third Marshal of the Mark, lent to us, only two days ago.

And the most precise and concluside:
But Arod, the horse of Rohan, refused the way, and he stood sweating and trembling in a fear that was grievous to see.

So no go - sorry

[Turambar]

Only Snowmane did not bear two riders at some point?

[Telchar]

That is correct Turambar smilies/wink.gif Go on!

[Turambar]

Tolkien seemed to like that two-on-a-horse thing; perhaps an obscure refernce to the Templars? smilies/wink.gif

OK I'll try to think of a new one.

[ October 08, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[The Saucepan Man]

Please refrain from giving long quotes or entering into lengthy discussions in Quiz games. That is not the purpose of this forum.

[Telchar]

If I tell people that they have given a wrong answer I usually also give them the reason that thay are wrong else people can continue on a wrong track or with misleading information, causing more wrong guesses. In other cases I tell people that they have made a good guess. I can honestly not see the problem in that Saucepanman.

Could you elaborate on why that is a problem?

NB: I could have asked you this in private Saucepanman, but I think it is in the best interest of all the participants to know why this in not one of the purposes of the quizroom - ei: to learn more and be corrected when one is wrong.

[The Saucepan Man]

Could you elaborate on why that is a problem?

Certainly, Telchar.

The threads in this forum are for the playing of Quiz games, not discussion of Tolkien's works. By all means correct someone if they get something wrong, but this only requires a short sentence or two. There is no need for lengthy supporting quotes and/or argument. Were that to happen every time an incorrect statement was made on these threads, then the games themselves would become lost in the detail and the threads would become prematurely long. That is why lengthy corrections, which not only take up space themselves but may also provoke similalry lengthy responses, are to be discouraged.

If a brief correction does (or is likely to) develop into a discussion, then (if it is worth continuing) that discussion can be taken to PM or (better still) the Books or Novices/Newcomers forum (as appropriate).

I think it is in the best interest of all the participants to know why this in not one of the purposes of the quizroom - ei: to learn more and be corrected when one is wrong.

I am not saying that the Quiz Room should not be for learning. Indeed, on the contrary, the opportunity to learn more about Tolkien's works (mainly thriugh researching answers and seeing the answers given by others) is, to my mind, one of its key attractions. What I am saying, though, is that discussion should be kept to a minimum so that it does not start obscuring the games, and that includes detailed explanations of why someone has got something wrong. A simple correction will suffice.

I agree that it is useful to have the opportunity to explain these guidelines for the benefit of all. But, if anyone has any further comments on what I have said, please PM me. Enough space has been taken up on this thread.

I hope that clarifies matters. smilies/smile.gif

[ October 09, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

[Anything but Arwen]

or entering into lengthy discussions in Quiz games.

Sorry to be a smarty pants, but wouldnt this disagreement actually count as an example of the afforementioned lengthy discussions?

I'll go back to my corner..

[ October 09, 2003: Message edited by: Anything but Arwen ]

[tom bombariffic]

True, very true.

Anyway, how about a new question?

Bombariffic (and he's got his thinking cap on)

[Telchar]

My lips are sealed while we wait for Turambar to continue this thread. smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

I can honestly not see the problem in that Saucepanman.
If Arod wasn't a pony, then all you need to say is something like 'no, Arod was a horse'. You don't need to back it up with umpteen quotes from the books; I believe you!

[tom bombariffic]

true, writing an essay dosen't make your post any more valid, but I can also see saucepan man's point. So let's all stop being so hasty, and get on with the quiz, because arguing like filthy orcs isn't why we're here, brum ra-room.

[Turambar]

In the meantime, I'm having trouble thinkig of an OCO - if someone else has one, please post.

[Telchar]

Bat
Butterfly
Squirrel
Ram
Bear
Horse
Thrush
Crow
Moth

[ October 11, 2003: Message edited by: Telchar ]

[Anything but Arwen]

A wild shot in the dark, but is it butterfly and squirrel, because the others were able to carry messages, speak, or showed some sign of higher intellegence?

Or not...

EDIT: OH! Ive seen a vague connection..lots of them have something to do with Mirkwood, living in or around it..something like that. Apart from that, I'm stumped. Anyone else?

[ October 11, 2003: Message edited by: Anything but Arwen ]

[Finwe]

Butterfly or Squirrel, because all of the others, in some way or form, influenced the fate of Middle-earth.

Bat -- (Thuringwethil in the Silmarillion)el
Ram -- (The husband of Tar-Ancalimë discovered her while she was herding sheep and rams)
Bear --- (Beorn)
Horse -- (Shadowfax, Arod, Hasufel, etc.)
Thrush -- (the Thrush in the Hobbit, who helped Bard kill Smaug)
Crow -- (Roac son of Carc, who was also in the Hobbit)
Moth -- (rescued Gandalf)

[Telchar]

Not to discourage anyone, but you are a little far off to the West or to the east.....

[Finwe]

All right then, Horse, because all the others lived in Mirkwood, or could be found in Mirkwood.

[Telchar]

Right OCO Finwe, but not the reason Im looking for, sorry smilies/wink.gif

[Finwe]

Is the reason that Horse was the only one that didn't play a part in The Hobbit?

[Anything but Arwen]

But what about the ponies, and Gandalf's white horse? And Beorn's horses?

[Telchar]

Finwe is getting close and ABA almost gives it away with his comment.... smilies/wink.gif

[tom bombariffic]

Horse, as it is the only one that plays a part in the hobbit and LOTR?

[Telchar]

That not it either smilies/frown.gif sorry


Forget LOTR and concentrate on The Hobbit

[Anything but Arwen]

*thinks furiously* Errrrrm...Oooh! Being to lazy to actually check this, but are horses and ponies the only animals to be mentioned in every chapter of The Hobbit?

Worth a try..

[Telchar]

No thats not it either... getting colder.


I actually thought that you guys would find this one pretty easy, are you having a black-out??? smilies/cool.gif

[ October 13, 2003: Message edited by: Telchar ]

[Anything but Arwen]

Hint?

[Telchar]

Hint? - Yes it was.... smilies/biggrin.gif

Let me repeat:
I actually thought that you guys would find this one pretty easy, are you having a black-out???

[tom bombariffic]

er...dunno what to make of that clue...all are black in colour except the white horse?

[Telchar]

Excactly Bombariffic ;o)

In the Hobbit there's no mention of any black horse - all the others does however come in black.

Please continue...

[tom bombariffic]

wow, didn't expect that!

Ok, I'll try to think of something fiendishly difficult for you lot...

Bombariffic

[Anything but Arwen]

*suddenly notices something*

ABA almost gives it away with his comment


*evil looks* His? No, I'm a her.. thank you ^_^

[Telchar]

*evil looks* His? No, I'm a her.. thank you ^_^

Please accept my utmost apology... smilies/wink.gif

[tom bombariffic]

here goes

warg
spider
dragon
goblin

off you go! (I hope you don't mind me using goblin as a creature!)

Bombariffic

[Finwe]

Spider because all of the others served a Dark Lord at some point (either Morgoth or Sauron).

[ October 15, 2003: Message edited by: Finwe ]

[Anything but Arwen]

What about Ungoliant and Shelob?

Errrm...I think it is...warg, because theyre the only ones that could be descirbed as "dumb beasts", for want of a better espression..you know what I mean..theyre only doing what theyre trained to do, the others have more their own will of things?


Oooh! Or, is it Goblin, because its the only one A Dark Lord made by corrupting something fair, as opposed to just using an already existing animal?

[tom bombariffic]

Good answers, but unfortunately not what I'm looking for...

Keep going!

[Finwe]

Goblin because all the others are more like animals rather than humans, but the Goblins are closer to humans than animals.

[tom bombariffic]

no...think about the hobbit

Bombariffic

[Evisse the Blue]

The hobbit as in the book or the people?
Well, I'll go with spider as it's the only creature that exists in the real world.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Thinking the Hobbit as a book...would the answer be warg 'cause there weren't any in that book (or were there? Can't really remember)

Or warg 'cause one doesn't ride a spider, a dragon neither a goblin.

[Finwe]

Dragon because it was the only one that talked, and was a character, in The Hobbit.

[tom bombariffic]

still no, and not really on the right track...(I did mean the hobbit as the book, by the way).

Clue: Think about the situation in which all of these animals are found in "The Hobbit".

Bombariffic

[ October 19, 2003: Message edited by: tom bombariffic ]

[Telchar]

What about wargs because they were the only ones not to speak in a tounge that Bilbo could understand.

[Finwe]

Warg because Bilbo did not "find" those. He "found" spiders in Mirkwood, he "found" Goblins in the Misty Mountains, and he "found" the Dragon Smaug. The Wargs came upon him rather than him coming upon them.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

Spiders 'cause they didn't participate in the battle?

[Anything but Arwen]

Is it WARG, because all the others are found living either in or around a mountain?

[tom bombariffic]

The Wargs came upon him rather than him coming upon them.

getting close now...but its not wargs.

Bombariffic

[Anything but Arwen]

Was it Goblins because they went searching for Bilbo and co. as opposed to being happened upon?

[tom bombariffic]

still no...the first guess was closer!

Think more about the way in which the enemy attack them...I really cant say any more!

Bombariffic

[Anything but Arwen]

Oh, is it to do with fire? They fought the goblins with fire, the wargs with fire, and Smaug used fire on them. Is it spiders then?

(lol I dont know why I'm trying this, I'm never going to be able to think up a decent OCO after this one...)

[tom bombariffic]

sorry, I've been away for a few days...

ok well this is dragging out so think about the way in which each of these creatures attacks thorin's company in the hobbit. Think about their tactics.

Bombariffic

[NightKnight]

The dragon, since it's the only one to attack them alone, the others attacked in groups?

[The Saucepan Man]

Well, they all trapped or captured Thorins's company, but only Smaug did so without really intending to do so. He brought down the door in the side of the Lonely Mountain in his anger with no intent to trap the company, while all of the others trapped them intentionally:

The Goblins captured them and brought them in bonds to their Chief.

The Wargs trapped them in the trees.

The Spiders ensnared them in their webs.

So I'll go for Smaug, the Dragon, on that basis.

[tom bombariffic]

HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!

saucepan man has it exactly right! well done, well done, and lets have a new question, master saucepan man, hoom hoom.

Bombariffic

[The Saucepan Man]

Why thank you Bombariffico. smilies/smile.gif

Cow
Dog
Eagle
Horse

[Finwe]

Cow because it was the only one that never exhibited any form of superior intelligence.

Horse --> Shadowfax (one smart horse!)
Dog --> Huan
Eagle> Thorondor, Gwaihir, etc.

[Telchar]

Maybe eagle, because there wasn't an eagle in the song Frodo made in The Pranching Pony?

[The Saucepan Man]

Both good answers, but not what I had in mind.

[Anything but Arwen]

Lol I shall be simple, and say Eagle, because its the only one which can fly, just in case Saucepanman is trying to give us a trick question?

Oooh, or, is it cow, becuase all the others have bourne someone on their backs?

Dog -- Huan, carried Luthien

Horse -- Well, Duh.

Eagle -- Carried Bilbo and co. from the fire?

[Gil-Galad]

I'm gonna make a stupid anwser becaseu my b-day is tommorrow, Eagle becasue it was at the top of the food chain, or Dog becaseu Huan, was "Mortally Wounded" by Draugilin?

[The Saucepan Man]

Nope. Neither of those answers are correct. But you have identified the right dog.

[Estanesse]

Cow because for so far I know there isn't a single cow who could understand the human Language.

[The Saucepan Man]

Nope. Again, a good answer, but not the one that I have in mind.

Hint: Think of another word used by Tolkien for cow.

[Telchar]

Eagle is odd out because eagles are applyed to Manwë

Opposed to:
Dog/Huan - one of Oromes hunting dogs
Horse/Nahar - horse of Orome
Cow/The kine of Araw --> Araw=Orome

... maybe

[The Saucepan Man]

... maybe

... definately maybe. smilies/biggrin.gif

Eagle is the odd one out, because all the others are associated with Orome, whereas the Eagles are associated with Manwe.

Carry on Telchar. smilies/smile.gif

[Telchar]

Cow
Deer
Swan
Fox
Cat


HINT: I think that this is actually an poor OCO because the OCO did something that the others didn't - which is not my usual style of asking (sorry) but it's the best I can come up with.

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

My first volley of shots, then,
Cow: jumped over the moon
Deer: danced with Nessa
Swan: traversed the great Sea
Fox: remarked upon hobbits camping at night
Cat: captured Beren in the early 'Beren and Luthien' tale

[NightKnight]

I'll go for cat, since it's the only one that served Morgoth/Sauron.

[Telchar]

One of Gwaihirs is close, but not spot on...

[Finwe]

Swan, because it was part of a city/lived in a city (Alqualondë)?

[Telchar]

nope

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Swan, the only animal in that list to be used as someone's emblem.

[Telchar]

nope...

HINT: anormaly / JRRT Writing style

[The Saucepan Man]

The Fox, because it is the only creature whose thoughts we are privy to?

[Telchar]

Correct Saucepans - an JRRT oddity smilies/wink.gif

[Anything but Arwen]

Drat. Wish I'd remembered this post sooner..I love that little fox! Its just this little bit that sticks out in my mind...yah...anyway..thats all I have to say...

[The Saucepan Man]

Sorry for the delay. Here's the next list:

Arod
Felarof
Hasufel
Roheryn
Shadowfax

Which one is the odd creature out?

[Telchar]

Arod.... as it is the only name that can be written in a common English word such as parody smilies/biggrin.gif

[ November 11, 2003: Message edited by: Telchar ]

[Finwe]

Arod... because he was the only horse ridden by an Elf (and a Dwarf).

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Roheryn isn't owned by an Eotheod, or Rohirrim?

[The Saucepan Man]

Telchar. No. Just no. smilies/rolleyes.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

only horse ridden by an Elf

It's quite possible that Roheryn was ridden by an Elf at some point, having been a gift from Arwen to Aragorn.

Roheryn isn't owned by an Eotheod, or Rohirrim?

True. But not what I am looking for.

Keep guessing. smilies/smile.gif

[Finwe]

Shadowfax was the only horse who withstood the Nazgul?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

How about, Arod bore two beings at the same time at some point in his life.

[The Saucepan Man]

Arod bore two beings at the same time at some point in his life.

... and Shadowfax didn't? smilies/wink.gif

Keep going, folks. There was a clue in my last post. smilies/tongue.gif

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Or maybe Felarof wasn't a gift from someone else, or owned and successfully ridden by someone else before the current owner.

[November 12, 2003: Message not edited by: Nilpaurion Felagund]

[ November 12, 2003: Message edited by: Nilpaurion Felagund ]

[Finwe]

Roheryn was the only horse to be given as a sort of "love present" from one lover to the other (Arwen to Aragorn).


(BTW, Yes! I've hit 1300!)

[ November 12, 2003: Message edited by: Finwe ]

[Telchar]

Arod / Given/Lent to Legolas/Gimli by Eomer
Felarof / Given to noone
Hasufel / Given/Lent Aragorn by Eomer
Roheryn / Given to Aragorn by Arwen
Shadowfax / Given to Gandalf by Theoden

So Felarof for not being given by someone to someone else...

[The Saucepan Man]

OK, Nilpaurion Felagond got the right OCO and reason, but Telchar gave the full explanation that I was looking for. So, I declare it a draw. Whichever sees this first may post the next question. smilies/tongue.gif smilies/smile.gif

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

What's...OCO?

Anywhen...

Crebain
Neekerbreekers
Smaug
Rochallor

[Gil-Galad]

Rochaller becasue its the only one not mentioned to be seen by any hobbits?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Sorry, no...

[Evisse the Blue]

Rochallor because it was a 'good' creature while the others either served evil or inflicted evil for their own purposes

[Telchar]

Rochallor couldnt fly... ?

[The Saucepan Man]

What's...OCO?

Hint: Look at the name of the game. smilies/wink.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Thanks, Sauce...

Anywhen...no, don't pick on Rochallor...he ain't the answer... smilies/wink.gif

[The Laurenendorian]

The Neekerbreekers were only found in one area, whereas all of the others travelled about?

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

Smaug was the only one capable of speech?

[Mahal]

Smaug...was in the Hobbit the rest in Lotr?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

OK. This was really short. The Horse-Maiden got it.

*Makes an harmless-looking chalk line on the lamp post* Your go.

EDIT: Erm, Sauce, what does your sig do? Mean, I mean.

[ November 16, 2003: Message edited by: Nilpaurion Felagund ]

[Horse-Maiden of the Shire]

Whoa, I got one! Okay, here goes:

Thrush
Pony
Dog
Oliphaunt

[Finwe]

I think I've got it narrowed down to two:

1) Oliphaunt -- because it was never a main character or a speaking character

Thrush --> told Bard the Bowman about Smaug's weak spot in The Hobbit
Pony --> Bill the Pony ('nuff said!)
Dog --> Huan (in the Silmarillion)


OR


2) Dog -- because it was the only one that didn't come into contact with Hobbits

Thrush --> overheard Bilbo speaking
Pony --> Bill the Pony (Sam took care of him)
Oliphaunt --> Frodo and Sam saw one in Ithilien

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

The thrush flies?

The Dog is from Valinor?

The Oliphaunt is an enemy animal?(well, sort of...)

[Telchar]

Trush, because it never attacked anyone...

[Mad Baggins]

Sorry, all...those are good guesses but incorrect. And didn't Farmer Maggot own three dogs? smilies/wink.gif

[Finwe]

Thrush, because Frodo was never afraid of the thrush.

He was afraid of a pony when Merry came to meet them after they stayed at Farmer Maggot's, because swathed in his scarf, Merry looked like a Ringwraith on his steed (albeit a very short, stubby Ringwraith!)

He was afraid of dogs because Farmer Maggot owned dogs, who had chased Frodo out of their master's field more than once.

Frodo was probably slightly afraid of the oliphaunt that he and Sam saw in Ithilien.

[Estanesse]

Is the oco a Thrush, because no one has ever ridden it?

There was Luthien mounted upon huan, a pony by hobbits and Oliphaunt by men of the east.

[Mad Baggins]

Still no. Good guesses everyone, keep it up!

[Finwe]

Dog, because Elves never rode any of the other creatures in the books. (Luthien rode Huan).

[Mad Baggins]

Nope.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

The oliphaunt, because it has a family member in its name? Oliphaunt? smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/wink.gif smilies/rolleyes.gif

No, seriously...the oliphaunt, because the name doesn't exist in real life?

Or maybe the dog, for it killed one of its kind...

[Mad Baggins]

Incorrect.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I know...A clue, a clue! (in standard "Blue's clues" voice)

[Anything but Arwen]

Its been more than ten days...new OCO please!

[Usta Salque]

a thrush is the only animal that isnt used as a working animal:

a pony to carry stuff

a dog to attack/protect

an Oliphant attacks and carries stuff

[Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar]

A thrush, because it is the only animal not mentioned in the LotR (it is only in the hobbit, as far as i know)

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 4:20 PM December 08, 2003: Message edited by: Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar ]

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 4:24 PM December 08, 2003: Message edited by: Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar ]

[Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar]

Yes, I will now PM Mad Baggins.
*coughs officially*

[Anything but Arwen]

Its been more than 10 days, can we have a new OCO please?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Here's a new one:

Smaug
Ancalagon
Glaurung

Enjoy!

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

C'mon! It's not so hard!!!

[Estanesse]

Glaurung, the only one without wings smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar]

Or:
Smaug, only one alive in the third age

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Both answers are correct...in...correct...incorrect.

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 2:30 AM December 19, 2003: Message edited by: Nilpaurion Felagund ]

[Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar]

Um, huh? What does that mean?

OK, smaug, because he was the only one not associated with a color (ancalagon the black, glaurung, golden father of dragons)

[Olorin_TLA]

Ancalagon, the only one not to have destroyed a kingdom.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

OK, smaug, because he was the only one not associated with a color

Smaug is golden...

Wait, did I just give the answer away? smilies/wink.gif

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 10:36 PM December 22, 2003: Message edited by: Nilpaurion Felagund ]

[Finwe]

Ancalagon, because he was "Black" not "Golden."

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

http://forum.barrowdowns.com/ubb/icons/icon14.gif

[Finwe]

All right then!

Here goes:


Shelob

Ungoliant

Morgoth

Gothmog


This one is going to be more than a little tricksy!

[Gil-Galad]

Gothmog was only one to be killed by an elf, or gothmog was only one to be in relation to fire, or gothmog was only name to be used twice

[NightKnight]

Gothmog was the only one who wasn't in contact with any of the Silmarils?

[Estanesse]

Morgoth, the only one defeated by a Maia.

Gothmog was the only one who wasn't in contact with any of the Silmarils?


And Shelob and Ungoliant where??

[Evisse the Blue]

And Shelob and Ungoliant where??
Yep: Ungoliant swallowed one and Shelob was blinded by the light derived from one.

Here's my guess: Shelob is the only one whose ultimate fate is not certain

[Estanesse]

Ungoliant swallowed one

Ungoliant swallowed no sil. smilies/biggrin.gif

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 8:35 AM December 23, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ]

[NightKnight]

Ungoliant didn't swallow them, but she wanted to. smilies/wink.gif

[Estanesse]

Finwe??????? smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar]

how soon can someone else go???

[Finwe]

Sorry for the delay. *sheepish grin*


Evisse got it.

[Evisse the Blue]

Yay, thanks, Finwe. Oh, and sorry for my Ungoliant-eating a Sil mistake. smilies/rolleyes.gifI re-read that bit: she would have, but for the Balrogs coming to Morgoth's aid.
More to the point, here's the new OCO:

Fatty Lumpkin
Shelob
Hasufel
Bill the Pony
The Watcher in the Water

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 5:13 PM January 02, 2004: Message edited by: Evisse the Blue ]

[Em]

Fatty Lumpkin is the only human?

[Evisse the Blue]

Fatty Lumpkin is the only human?
This is Odd Creature out.
You must have him confused with Fatty Bolger! I mean, yeah he's a fat lazy hobbit, but I wouldn't exactly call him a 'creature'. smilies/biggrin.gif

[Lord of Angmar]

Hasufel, because he is the only one who Sam/Frodo did not interact with?

[Evisse the Blue]

This must be a new record for the fastest guess for an OCO...it was Sam whom I had in mind actually smilies/biggrin.gif

[Evisse the Blue]

*bump*
Lord of Angmar, I call thee forth!

[The Perky Ent]

well, its been a while and i remember this thread so....


********REVIVE********

Here's the new OCO:

The Witch King
Tom
Gwaiahir
Quickbeam
Smaug

[Evisse the Blue]

Smaug - the only one not alive during the War of the Ring?

[Fingolfin II]

Tom- the only human?

[NightKnight]

I think he means Tom the troll. And I think he's the OCO, since he was never in a battle (as far as we know).

[The Perky Ent]

No to all and Tom is the troll form the trollshaws

[Mad Baggins]

The Witchking was the only one killed in WotR?

[The Perky Ent]

Nope!

[Bombadil]

this is a long shot... but:

Smaug, becuz he was the only creature not to have come in contact with all four of the hobbits of the fellowship?

-Witchking they came in contact on weahertop
-Tom they saw while passing through the trollshaws (turned into stone)
-Gwaihir met sam and frodo as he helped take them form mount doom.
-Quickbeam met merry and pippin during the entmoot
-Smaug met bilbo...but no hobbits form the fellowship of the ring .

[The Perky Ent]

:D You're incredably close, but not there yet!

[Evisse the Blue]

Smaug - the only one not to have met Merry and/or Pippin?

[The Perky Ent]

Ooo! Very very close but no sigare.

[NightKnight]

Smaug never met Frodo.

[The Perky Ent]

you're on the right track with Frodo and you're really close, but not there yet!

and btw, when did quickbeam feet frodo?

[Bombadil]

Quickbeam, the only one not to come in contact with a baggins?

[The Perky Ent]

YAY! Bombadil got it! Finally!

I yield the thread to you

[Bombadil]

Shadowfax
Gwaihir
Snowmane
Bill the Pony

[NightKnight]

Gwaihir is the only one that is not a horse.

[The Perky Ent]

Although this might be wrong, Snowmane, the only one a hobbit didn't ride on.


Pippin rode on shadowfax, Frodo "rode" on Gwaiahir, and Sam didn't ride but kept care of. So, in other words, Snowmane, the only one not to be in close proximity of a hobbit :D

[Evisse the Blue]

Bill the Pony - the only one who hasn't participated in combat?

[Bombadil]

well those are all true, but not what im looking for, and since it's kind of broad ill give a hint...

think fellowship

[NightKnight]

Snowmane - the only one not ridden by a member of the Fellowship.

[Sirithheruwen]

Just a guess...

Snowmane, because he was the only one who didn't help out the Fellowship... Shadowfax carried GAndalf, Bill carried the baggage, and Gwaihir carried Frodo and GAndalf.

[Bombadil]

Sirithheruwen, you have the concept, but what i was looking for is what NightKnight answered, so nice job Knight you're up!