Odd Man Out

[Turambar]

Beren
Turin
Dior
Earendil
Mablung

EDIT: good question, SPM.

[ June 11, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Arestevana]

Turin never owned the Nauglamir?

[Turambar]

Did Mablung? In any case you're very close.

[Lindolirian]

Turin never touched the Silmaril.

[Gil-Galad]

Beren was called many names, but so was Turin....

[Elentarimir]

Mablung never saw an Elf? That's just a guess, probably wrong...

[Turambar]

Lindolirian has it.

[Arestevana]

Ah, maybe not after all. He fought for it in Menegroth, but died. I thought it was in his possession during that time, but It was most likely owned by Melian. Oh, btw Elen, Mablung WAS an elf. smilies/wink.gif
*watches Lindolirian expectantly*

[Lindolirian]

Fingon
Hurin
Ecthelion
Feanor

[Turambar]

Hurin wasn't killed by a balrog?

[Lindolirian]

Right, they all encountered a Balrog, but Hurin was the only one not killed by one. Head on, Master of Doom! smilies/smile.gif

[Turambar]

Huor
Tuor
Húrin
Túrin

[Lindolirian]

Well there's the obvious one that Túrin has never been to Gondolin, but I doubt that's it. Tuor was the only one to see the Sea, and speak with a Vala, not to mention was allowed to live in the Undying Lands.

[Arwen Imladris]

Which Húrin?

[Lasgalen]

Tuor because he was the only one who married and Elf. Tuor because he was the only mortal counted among the Eldar.

[Turambar]

*embarassed* Lindolirian - it was the obvious answer. Turin never visited Gondolin. Your go!

[Lindolirian]

Oh, I'm sorry... now I feel bad. smilies/frown.gif

Anywaaays...
Fatty Bolger
Gríma
Gloìn
Grishnákh
Uglúk

[The Saucepan Man]

I would guess Uglúk on the assumption that he is the only one never to have encountered the Nazgul.

Fatty Bolger was menaced by them at Crickhollow.
Gríma Wormtongue, according to one account in UT, directed them towards the Shire.
Gloìn, I think, was one of those that encountered the Nazgul that visited Erebor.
Grishnákh, being an Orc of Mordor, must have encountered one.
Uglúk on the other hand, being an Orc of Isengard, maybe never had that pleasure.

[Lindolirian]

Right-O! I was assuming, like you, that the messenger to Erebor was a Nazgûl, in which case, Ugluk would be the Odd Man Out. Carry on!


1300th Post!

[ June 17, 2003: Message edited by: Lindolirian ]

[The Saucepan Man]

A solid assumption, Lindol. smilies/wink.gif

This set should be fairly straightforward:

Greenleaf
Quickbeam
Treebeard
Wandlimb

[alaklondewen]

Greenleaf is the only name given to an elf...which would be Legolas?

[The Saucepan Man]

And Greenleaf (ie Legolas) is the only one who is not an Ent. But your answer is good enough for me, alak. Please proceed smilies/smile.gif

[alaklondewen]

Thank you. I should have clarified a little more.

Borondir
Tuor
Halbarad
Eothain
Hirgon

[Lindolirian]

Tuor never rode a horse.

[The Saucepan Man]

Eothain is the only one who did not convey an important message.

Borondir brought tidings to Eorl and the Northmen of Gondor's need.
Tuor brought Ulmo's message to Gondolin advising that the city be abandoned.
Halbarad brought Elrond's reminder of Malbeth's prophecy to Aragorn (and the standard made for him by Arwen).
Hirgon brought the Red Arrow to Theoden, again conveying tidings of Gondor's need in times of war.

Eothain, on the other hand, was simply a grumpy Rider of Rohan who was too mean to happily spare a few horses for the future King of Gondor and his companions. smilies/wink.gif

[ June 20, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

[alaklondewen]

Saucepan, that was exactly what I was looking for. Great job! Carry on. smilies/smile.gif

[The Saucepan Man]

Why thank you, alak. smilies/smile.gif OK, next up:

Haleth
Haldad
Helm Hammerhand
Tarannon Falastar
Telemnar
Theoden

[alaklondewen]

I'll state the obvious first...Haleth is the only woman, while the rest are men, but I don't think that's it.

All of these are Kings (or Queen in Haleth's case), but Tarannon Falastur is the only one who was childless.

[The Saucepan Man]

... but I don't think that's it.

You are correct ... that's not it. smilies/evil.gif

And its not to do with childlessness, although that answer is heading somewhat in the right direction. smilies/tongue.gif

[alaklondewen]

Okay, I'm going to try again. smilies/smile.gif

Haldad is the only leader (King/Queen) listed whose was succeeded by his child, which was Haleth.

Haleth was succeeded by her brother, Haldor.
Helm Hammerhand by his nephew Frealaf.
Tarannon Falastar by Earnil I his nephew.
Telemnar by his nephew Tarondor.
Theoden was succeeded of course by his nephew Eomer.


My apologies I thought Haleth had a son, but she was childless also.

[The Saucepan Man]

In fact, Haleth was succeeded by Haldan, son of her brother, Haldar. So, the odd one out is Haldad because he is the only on who was not succeeded by his nephew.

But you are close enough, alak, so please carry on. smilies/smile.gif

[alaklondewen]

Hmm...maybe one of these times I'll be right on the money instead of 'close enough'. smilies/wink.gif

Okay, here's the next list:

Gil-galad
Lorien
Borondir
Earendil
Nimrodel

[ June 22, 2003: Message edited by: alaklondewen ]

[Arwen Imladris]

Oh man, I am so bad at this.

Gil-galad: Only High Kings of the Noldor?
Lorien: Only Vala?
Borondir: Only man?
Earendil: Which one??
Nimrodel: Only female?

[alaklondewen]

Sorry, none of those are what I'm looking for. smilies/frown.gif Just to clarify...Earendil is the mariner.

[Lindolirian]

Borondir never saw the Sea.

[alaklondewen]

Maybe...but that's not it. smilies/wink.gif

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Borondir: the only one to have escaped near-death (lol rather weak I know)

[ June 24, 2003: Message edited by: Gwaihir the Windlord ]

[Lasgalen]

Nimrodel-only one to have a river named after her?

[alaklondewen]

Nope, and nope. Okay, here is a hint: All five people have something in common, but with one of them this one thing is a little different. I hope that made some sort of sense.

[The Saucepan Man]

Hmm, another hint perhaps, alak?

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

I understand, but it doesn't really make it any easier. Remembering the time someone else gave me a clue which I more or less ignored and still got the answer, I'm going to say Lorien. He was the only one who did not make some sort of sacrifice/gamble (Gil-Galad destroying Sauron at the cost of his own life, Nimrodel willing to endure perils to reach Amroth, Borondir running a gauntlet to reach Eorl, Earendil taking on the burden of the doom of the Children of Illuvitar).

[Lalaith]

There is some kind of link I would guess with a journey or a message.

[alaklondewen]

I have take out Lorien, because that was not what was in my head at the time (so sorry)...I was thinking of Varda, so I have replaced it with Elbereth. I have also added two more names that have the same thing in common as the others.

Gil-galad
Elbereth
Borondir
Earendil
Nimrodel
Boromir
Eärendil (the Mariner)

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Well that totally changes things. smilies/smile.gif

Borondir, who was the only non-regal person.

[Lalaith]

Now I'm even more confused. I've looked up Earendil of Gondor on the Encyclopaedia of Arda and they basically say he did absolutely nothing!

[alaklondewen]

Okay, Lalaith, it's Earendil the Mariner. smilies/wink.gif
This will be a huge hint...the thing they all have in common is the way they were remembered.

[Gil-Galad]

all of them except Earendil of Gondor fought in a great battle that changed the fate of Middle Earth
(Gil-Galad-atatcked Sauron)
(Earendil the mariner- killed Anacalon and most of the dragons)

[Lalaith]

Thanks Alak, the reason I got confused was that you had Earendil mentioned twice in the list, once as a Mariner, so I thought you had both Earendils in mind...

And, I think I've got it! They all had lays or songs written about them. Except Borondir who was just mentioned perhaps in someone else's song...

[alaklondewen]

I am very sorry, Lalaith...I didn't realize you had answered. Thank you Saucepan for the PM.

You are so close to what I'm looking for that I'm giving it to you. This question has gone on too long. Borondir is indeed the answer, but he also had a song written about him...it just wasn't sung in the LotR.

My apologies again...the board is yours.

[Lalaith]

No problem!

Theoden
Denethor
Sam
Aragorn
Turgon

[Meneltarmacil]

Theoden
Denethor
Sam
Aragorn
Turgon

Sam seens like the odd one out for a number of reasons (Only Hobbit, only one who didn't die but went to Valinor)... but that has got to be too easy. Maybe Denethor because he was the only one who didn't have a sword?

[Lalaith]

No, sorry.

[Gil-Galad]

may i ask which Denethor? the Ossiraind Denethor or the steward Denethor?

[Lalaith]

The steward, the one who appears in LotR.

[Lyta_Underhill]

Wild guess, top of my head: all of them but Sam died in a realm containing Minas Tirith! So Sam is odd...

Cheers,
Lyta
(forgive me if my wild guess is too wild!)

[Lalaith]

That's a classy guess Lyta but not the right answer...

[Luthien_ Tinuviel]

Well, they were all "rulers" of something, but I'll guess Sam, because he wasn't a king or steward acting as king, just a a mayor.

[Lalaith]

Nope.

[Lyta_Underhill]

They all lived in the Third Age, except for Turgon, who lived in the First Age. Oh, and thanks for the compliment on the first guess, Lalaith! smilies/smile.gif

[ July 25, 2003: Message edited by: Lyta_Underhill ]

[Lalaith]

I think this is maybe bit hard.
Clue - Lyta was closest when she was thinking about their deaths...

[Lyta_Underhill]

Another guess: all but Turgon were mortals and had lived to old age for their kinds when they died.

[Lalaith]

No....sorry. I'm away for a week now but feel free to guess and I'll tell you when I get back!

[Lasgalen]

Denethor is the only one who takes his own life.

[Gil-Galad]

Turgon dies in a tower protecting himself

[Dancing_Hobbit]

I believe Theoden was the only one to die without any living offspring?

[Lyta_Underhill]

Theoden
Denethor
Sam
Aragorn
Turgon

OK, how about a silly guess? Sam is the only one without an "O" in his name! (Also the only one without an "N" in his name!) smilies/biggrin.gif

[ July 31, 2003: Message edited by: Lyta_Underhill ]

[Lalaith]

No, none of these are right, but I'd say that Dancing Hobbit is thinking along the right lines.

[Lasgalen]

Theoden is the only one to outlive his child(ren).

[Lalaith]

Very much along the right lines, Lasgalen.

[Turambar]

Only Sam had children of both sexes?

[Dancing_Hobbit]

Denethor was the only one to try to kill himself and one of his children.

[Manardariel]

Hmmmm...

Turgon is the only one who´s children/heirs didn´t inherit anything from him?

Theoden- Kingship to Eomer
Sam- Red Book of Westmarch to Elanor
Denethor- Stewardship to Faramir
Aragorn- Kingship to Eladarion

does that make sense???

[Lalaith]

Hi everyone, sorry I was away and couldn't remember my password to log on!
No, it's not to do with children.
Lasgalen is still the closest though. 'outlive' is the key word....

[Turambar]

Was Aragorn the only one outlived by his wife ? smilies/eek.gif

[Lalaith]

Hurrah for Turambar! It's the right answer...

[Turambar]

Thingol
Fingolfin
Finrod
Turgon
Beren

[Mariska Greenleaf]

My first thought is Beren,
because he is the only man, the rest of them are elves, but it will not be that easy I suppose smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Eruanna]

Finrod? He was the only one who did not marry and have children.

[Turambar]

No and no.

All but the OMO did something, or perhaps you could say something happened to them.

[Cathelm]

I have three guesses, if that's alright...

It's either Thingol, since he's the only one not going by his original name (Elwe),

Or Beren, because 1. He's a man, and 2. He died of causes not related to the War of the Silmarils, even if it was the second time.

Or Fingolfin, since as far as I remember he's the only one who had the honor of being slain by Morgoth himself.

Not sure if I'm allowed to do that, but hope one of them is right.

[Turambar]

Nope. Re the Fingolfin guess, usually an OMO question is based on something that applies to everyone except the OMO.

Just trying to clarify.

HINT: Lorien.

[ August 19, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Evisse the Blue]

Lorien? I suppose it's not the ME Lorien but the one from Valinor, so I'll guess: Beren is the OMO because all the rest saw Valinor.

[Turambar]

Nope, though you have the correct Lorien.

You might say that all but the OMO received something, in a certain way.

THis probably isn't the best OMO question; I always have trouble asking these.

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Thingol
Fingolfin
Finrod
Turgon
Beren

Fingolfin, perhaps. He is the only one not wedded or in close association with a person themselves associated with nightingales, which are ultimately from Lorien.

[Turambar]

That's the correct OMO, but the wrong reason -- what do the rules say about that?

Given the HINT, the answer is more obvious than than yours, Gwaihir.

HINT #2 -- one of Finrod's and Turgon's association with the answer occurred together, so to speak.

[The Saucepan Man]

Just to clarify, on "Odd One Out" type games, the question is not correctrly answered until the correct reason for the correct OMO is given. In fact Turambar, you do not have to tell someone that they have the correct OMO if they give the wrong reason.

[Turambar]

I figured that but I'm eager to have this one solved. Like most people, I'd rather solve puzzles than pose them.

C'mon !!

[Lasgalen]

Fingolfin, because he is the only one whose death is not associated with getting and or keeping a Silmaril?

[Turambar]

http://www.anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/mgno.gif

*cough-whatisLorientheGodof-cough*

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Ummm..... Fingolfin the only one who didn't have a garden, then?

[Turambar]

http://www.anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/icon_thumbsdown.gif

This one has lasted too long -- I'll give the answer if no one guesses it this morning.

HINT: for Turgon + Finrod -- Ulmo.

[ August 25, 2003: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Evisse the Blue]

Well, Lorien is the god of dreams, so the the reason for the OMO Finglofin is all the others had ( recieved, if you will, by the grace of the Ainur) visionary dreams:
- Fingon and Turgon about the cities they will build - with help from Ulmo;
- Thingol had a vision about the light of the Two Trees through the grace of Melian;
- Beren was warned in a dream of his father's death - I forget by whom;

I don't have the time to check these, I hope they're correct.

PS: This better be the correct one, cause it just got me promoted to 'Shade of Carn Dum'
smilies/wink.gif

[ August 25, 2003: Message edited by: Evisse the Blue ]

[Turambar]

Correct !!

Thingol "was troubled by dreams concerning the coming of Men," and Beren had a very lurid dream in which "carrion-birds sat thick as leaves upon bare trees beside a mere, and blood dripped from their beaks."

Fingolfin, as far as we know, slept like Samwise.

[Evisse the Blue]

Here is the new one, then:

Aragorn
Theoden
Gandalf
Eomer

[The Saucepan Man]

Gandalf, because he was never a King?

[Evisse the Blue]

No, it's not that.

I should say that this new one was inspired by Turambar's previous one - so, the solution is somewhat similar).
(oh, gee, I really shoudn't use 'inspired by' anymore. this expression tends to get me in trouble smilies/rolleyes.gif )

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Ummm... Gandalf, then, the only one never to have had a 'visionary dream'? (worth a try...?)

[Evisse the Blue]

Hey, I said 'inspired', not copied. smilies/tongue.gif smilies/biggrin.gif . So, no, it's not that, but as I said, close enough.

Other guesses will have to wait till the end of the week to recieve confirmation, hope you don't mind ; (I'll be out trying to break a few more miles on the way to Rivendell smilies/wink.gif

[Gil-Galad]

Aragorn was afraid of his past, and what he might become, he didn't want to bear Narsil

[Evisse the Blue]

Nope.
HINT: It's something they all said (all but the OMO).

[Evisse the Blue]

Aw, c'mon! It's really easy! I nearly handed it to you on a golden plate already solved. All you have to do is think about things the characters have said, and remmber a key word in Turmabar's previous riddle. If you get the key word, you get the riddle solved.

[elfearz1]

Gandalf, because he was the only one not married? (that's more inspired by something someone else said, but I thought it was worth a try.)

[Evisse the Blue]

Nope, it's not this. I think it has been a long time since Aug 25 when the riddle was first posted, and as nobody gets it - I'll provide the answer.
The OMO was Eomer because he never had a moment of 'clairvoyance' - the rest all predicted something:
Aragorn - told Gandalf 'if you pass the doors of Moria, beware'
Theoden - predicted that he will not see Aragorn again
Gandalf - predicted lots of things; Gollum having still a part to play is the one that comes to mind now.

Eomer actually predicted something of which the opposite would come true: that Aragorn will not make it through the Paths of the Dead.

Now that's settled - anyone care to provide the next riddle? smilies/smile.gif

[Lasgalen]

I will try one. (hope my memory is working correctly)

Legolas
Gimli
Aragorn
Gandalf
Pippin

[Turambar]

EVISSE -- I didnt remember that Theoden made that prediction! At least, that's my excuse.

[Evisse the Blue]

Is it Pippin because he wasn't at the battle of Helm's Deep?

Turambar: it's a very good excuse, it's not the kind of thing that strikes you in the face, but I found it somehow ironic that he should make this prediction and it would prove true, but with a small twist... this is the quote: ROTK, ch 'Muster of Rohan': Theoden (about Aragorn): "Maybe he was called and my heart tells me that I shall not see him again."

[Lasgalen]

That is true, but not what I was thinking of. I had a different odd man out in mind.

[Lasgalen]

Somebody else should go. I am leaving for vacation and I won't be back until October.

[Estanesse]

Hurin
Turin
Huor
Tuor

[Lindolirian]

I'll start narrowing it down with the obvious ones... smilies/wink.gif

Turin has never been to Gondolin.
Tuor was never on the plains of Anfauglith.
Only Tuor married an Elda, and became an immortal.

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Tuor was the only one whose story was bright, rather than miserable.

[Finwe]

Tuor because he was the only one who didn't die early/ be killed.

[Estanesse]

There is no correct answer yet but Lindolirian is on the right track. smilies/evil.gif

[Telchar]

Huor was never taken captive?

[NightKnight]

Huor was the only one not to survive a great battle?

[Estanesse]

No correct answer yet. A little hint, it has to do with battles.

[Turambar]

Túrin didn't fight in the Nirnaeth?

[Lasgalen]

Turin
He is the only one who did not fight along side Turgon.

[Estanesse]

No and no

[Finwe]

Hurin was the only one to be captured and taken to Morgoth, by Balrogs, in a battle?

[Estanesse]

No it has nothing to do with what they did.

[Telchar]

It has to do with family doesnt it???

[ October 30, 2003: Message edited by: Telchar ]

[Lasgalen]

Turin is the only one whose son did not fight against Morgoth or his hosts.

[Estanesse]

It has to do with family doesnt it???
Sorry but it has nothing to do with family.

Turin is the only one whose son did not fight against Morgoth or his hosts.

Turin had no son.

[Telchar]

hmmmm *looks crazed and shoots wildly around*

Turin: Because he never had any children smilies/biggrin.gif

[Estanesse]

Sorry but it has nothing to do with family. smilies/wink.gif

[ October 31, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ]

[Finwe]

Huor because he didn't utter any battle-cries in any battles that he fought in. (Or at least we don't remember them).

[Estanesse]

Nope battle cry isn’t the answer.

*Hint*
Sorry but it has nothing to do with family.
it has to do with battles.
it has nothing to do with what they did.

*New hint* age

[NightKnight]

All of them except for Tuor were sent away as children, after a big battle.

[Lasgalen]

*New hint* age
Tuor was the only one to survive the First Age?

[Estanesse]

No and not even close.

[Turambar]

It's not that Tuor was the only one born in the Year of Lamentation, is it?

[Telchar]

I can build somethin one that one ...

Tuor was the only one that never met his father (huor being killed in battle before he was born)

[Estanesse]

Two very good answers but not the answers I’m looking for.

Don’t take the age hint to strict.

[Finwe]

Tuor, because he was the youngest to fight in a battle.

[Estanesse]

Maybe age was not so good a hint. smilies/biggrin.gif
*MAJOR HINT* THE ENEMY

[Finwe]

Hurin because he was the only one who fought against the Enemy face to face?

[Estanesse]

nope

[Estanesse]

*hint* it's not the enemy

[Telchar]

hmmmmm....

[ November 13, 2003: Message edited by: Telchar ]

[Evisse the Blue]

(trying to take into account all the hints and all the wrong answers): Tuor is the OMO because his fate was prophesized during a fierce battle with the enemy.
ahem. this sounds a bit 'out there'. smilies/tongue.gif

[Estanesse]

Sorry Evisse

hint* Three of the four have something in common

[The Saucepan Man]

*MAJOR HINT* THE ENEMY

*hint* it's not the enemy

hmmmmm....

Indeed. smilies/wink.gif

[Estanesse]

It’s a bit of a contradiction smilies/rolleyes.gif but it’s still a good hint (I hope) smilies/biggrin.gif

[Finwe]

Turin was the only one mentioned, who would do anything after the end of the First Age, and who would be instrumental in killing Morgoth (according to the Second Prophecy of Mandos, Morgoth would fall by the black sword of Turin).

[Telchar]

Does it have anything to do with who they kill???

[Estanesse]

No and nope it has nothing to do with who they kill

*HINT*
It has to do with battles.
It has nothing to do with what they did.
Nothing to do with family.
THE ENEMY ( not Morgoth)
Three of the four have something in common

[ November 15, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ]

[Finwe]

Turin, because he was the only one who was his own enemy?

[The Laurenendorian]

All but Huor were defeated in battle but survived, whereas Huor was slain?

[Estanesse]

No and no. It has nothing to do with dead.

[Lasgalen]

Only Huor was not involved somehow in the downfall of an Elven stronghold?

[Estanesse]

Nope

[Finwe]

Turin, because he was the main enemy of The Enemy.

[Estanesse]

Nope but you are on the right track

[ November 23, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ]

[Estanesse]

Dragon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NightKnight]

Turin killed a dragon?

[Estanesse]

Yes he did but thats not the answer I'm looking for.

*HINT*
It has to do with battles.
It has nothing to do with what they did.
Nothing to do with family.
THE ENEMY ( not Morgoth)
Three of the four have something in common

Dragon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 7:00 AM December 23, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ]

[Evisse the Blue]

My Goodness, this riddle still hasn't been solved?? You're good, Estanesse, you're really good! smilies/wink.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

Ok - so is the answer Tuor because he never had Glaurung as an enemy in a battle, while the rest did: Hurin and Huor in the battle of unnumbered tears, while Turin faced Glaurung afterwards and killed him. (mumbles to herself: hasn't this already been said? in two pages of trials and errors, that's very likely, oh well, my two cents...)

[Estanesse]

Well thank you for your kind words Evisse the Blue. But my question wasn't so hard was it smilies/smile.gif.

[Evisse the Blue]

Well, after you provided all the hints possible, sure it wasn't hard! smilies/biggrin.gif

Here's mine: Odd woman out this time (OWO) smilies/smile.gif

Arwen
Eowyn
Mrs Maggot
Lobelia Sackville-Baggins
Rosie Cotton

[Finwe]

Lobelia Sackville-Baggins, because she was the only one who was mean to a Hobbit?

[Evisse the Blue]

Nope.

[Telchar]

Rosie - because she never gave a gift away

[NightKnight]

Eowyn was the only one who wasn't mentioned in the first book (as far as I can remember)?

[Evisse the Blue]

Telchar, you're on, that's what I had in mind! And I thought I made a toughie...

[Telchar]

It was a toughie smilies/wink.gif I think it was Mrs Maggot that gave it away - all she ever did was give Frodo those mushrooms ... smilies/smile.gif


Well since its still christmas, then lets have another go with the women - and of course the OWO is new and for a completely different reason

Arwen
Eowyn
Mrs Maggot
Lobelia Sackville-Baggins
Rosie Cotton

smilies/tongue.gif

[Estanesse]

Eowyn, she has never set foot in the shire.

[Telchar]

correct owo - but Im looking for another reason although that was a good one smilies/wink.gif

[Estanesse]

Another try, is the owo Eowyn smilies/biggrin.gif . She never met Frodo before Sméagol destroyed the ring.

[Telchar]

Not that either...

[Evisse the Blue]

Eowyn fought in the War of the Ring?

[Telchar]

the others had something Eowyn didnt - at least its not recorded that she did

[Finwe]

Eowyn, because all the others had husbands who somehow came into contact with Bilbo Baggins.

[Evisse the Blue]

How about all the others had daughters?
EDIT: I mean children.

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[Telchar]

Correct Evisse smilies/wink.gif

[Evisse the Blue]

smilies/smile.gifThanks. Next up:

Frodo
Aragorn
Galadriel
Turin

[Telchar]

Galadriel wasnt brought up by foster parents?

[Firefoot]

Turin did not live in the third age?

[Evisse the Blue]

Nope, neither.

[paavo]

Turin, because he has never been in lothlorien?

[Kath]

Frodo cos he was not brought up by elves?

[Heni]

Frodo- He never ruled a place or a kingdom

[Lindolirian]

Prolly not it, but somehow it seems good to me. Galadriel didn't have a sword with a name or any sword for that matter. Heck, let's just make it real broad and say she never fought with a sword, in a battle, probably never punched anybody either...Right... get on with the guessing smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/tongue.gif

[Estanesse]

Frodo is not married

[Firefoot]

This probably isn't right, but Turin was the only one who killed himself.

[Evisse the Blue]

Nobody has it so far.
HINT: it's something that happened to all but the OMO.

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[Gil-Galad]

Turin didn't have the chance to take the one ring

[Finwe]

Frodo was never married?

[Lasgalen]

Galadriel is the only one not separated from her mother at a young age?

[Lindolirian]

Galadriel was never stabbed.
Turin never wrestled with the will of Sauron.
Frodo was never in love.
Turin has never been to the Shire.

[paavo]

Aragorn because his race was the only one that did not vanish from Middle-earth

[Evisse the Blue]

Frodo was never in love.
Can we tell for certain? smilies/wink.gif

Anyway - it's none of these.

[paavo]

I can't come up with anything else. a hint would be appreciated smilies/smile.gif

[Evisse the Blue]

What do Gollum and Feanor have in common? (hint)

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 4:41 AM January 19, 2004: Message edited by: Evisse the Blue ]

[Lalaith]

Hmm..how about, all except Frodo were exiles.

[Finwe]

Aragorn was the only one who wasn't thrown out.

Frodo --> felt that he had to leave by the end of the Third Age because he just wasn't "normal" enough for the Shire

Galadriel --> Rebellion of the Noldor

Turin --> after "killing" Saeros, he went into self-imposed exile

[Evisse the Blue]

Nope, sorry.

[Estanesse]

They all killed a person, or are partly blamed for the death, of there own kind, except Frodo.

[Evisse the Blue]

Not that either.

Hint: remember the previous hints~

[paavo]

I have to admit this is a tough one! :D
but I don't want a fun quiz like this to die because no one knows the right answer, so could you give us yet another hint, please. :D

[Evisse the Blue]

You all 'll probably kill me when you find the answer.
Next hint:
This vile deed can be done (and was!) by hobbit ,man , dwarf.

[Keeper of Dol Guldur]

Vile deed that can be done by man, hobbit, dwarf. . .

They all chose what day they got to die except for Galadriel, who as an elf her fate was sealed to last for all of Middle Earth's span.

Aragorn lay down one day and died of his own power.
Frodo went to heaven to heal and die when he chose.
Turin killed himself.

[Evisse the Blue]

That was a very good reason for an OMO, much better than mine, I should say, but that's not it.

Remember, this vile deed was done to the OMO, and also remember Gollum, Feanor and someone else (*coughdwarfcough*)

[Keeper of Dol Guldur]

Frodo
Aragorn
Galadriel
Turin

Frodo was the only one of the four who had ever been whipped (as far as any of us know). Gollum had been given a sound lashing or two (or 100), Feanor died by the whips of the 'Rogs, the dwarf in question, would be Thror, whipped in the dungeons of Sauron.

[Evisse the Blue]

Nope. And it's not that Gollum, Feanor and the dwarf (who is not Thorin) shared something in common with the OMO categories. There were just involved in the thing that happened to all but the OMO. Very involved.
There. This should give away the answer nicely.:cool:

[Keeper of Dol Guldur]

Well, Aragorn was never betrayed by a person who he thought was his ally . . . not personally anyway. Gollum totally betrayed Frodo's trust, Feanor turned his back on Galadriel and her kin on the way to retake the Silmarils, and Turin was betrayed by Mim the Petty Dwarf. Galadriel and her brother and kinfolk went after Feanor to avenge themselves . . . Turin paid back the Petty Dwarf, and Frodo had faced off with Gollum on Mt. Doom. Ill omens and doom had something to do with each betrayal (Mt. Doom, Doom of Mandos, Glaurung's Curse).

If the answer isn't somewhere in that jumble of linked pieces of information, I give up.

[Evisse the Blue]

If the answer isn't somewhere in that jumble of linked pieces of information, I give up.
No need for that _ the answer was in the first part, namely the betrayal issue.

Take it away!: )

[Keeper of Dol Guldur]

Okay then, let's see . . .

Eomer
Samwise
Aragorn
Turin

Have fun . . .

[Finwe]

Turin, because he was the only one without a happy marriage and children

[Evisse the Blue]

Samwise was the only one whose sword did not have a name?

[Keeper of Dol Guldur]

Crap . . . I admit that there's plenty of reasons for the OMO to be the OMO, in this batch of characters, so I'll say that the guess about marriage was getting warmer . . . maybe it has something to do with who they married . . .

[Mad Baggins]

Samwise was the only one not to marry a member of a royal family?

[Finwe]

Turin was the only one who married his sister?

[Keeper of Dol Guldur]

oh man, that's why I hate OMO posts, too many good and altogether simple answers to lists I thought might be complicated and have only one, tricky answer . . . both good, neither right.

On the right rack.

[Finwe]

Hmm..... could it be Eomer, because he was the only one who didn't "grow up" with his wife or her family?

Turin --> that's obvious... Nienor is his sister
Samwise --> He knew Rosie for a long time
Aragorn --> He was fostered by Elrond, Arwen's father

[Evisse the Blue]

Though I suspect Finwe's already got it, I'll veture another guess:
Aragorn, Sam and Turin all married after a long (more or less) wait, while Eomer, as far as I know, didn't.

[Keeper of Dol Guldur]

Finwe got it, nice job. I wanted to be more specific, maybe I should have listed Rosie, Arwen, Niniel and Imrahil's Sister. But anyway, yeah on the money. The other's were all 'practically brothers' anyway (as in, Sam was good pals with Rosie's brothers, Aragorn was good pals with Arwen's brothers, and Turin was Nienor's brother). I guess Eomer and Imrahil became friends quick, but there was certainly no growing up with eachother going on there.

[Finwe]

Ah... ok... Hmm...



Fëanor

Bëor

Tuor

Manthor

[Sleepy Ranger]

Beorn was the only one not raised by elves.

Feanor-Was an elf

Tuor-Raised by the Elves before he went to Gondolin

[Finwe]

Nope.

[NightKnight]

They all served someone else except Fëanor?

Bëor - Finrod
Tuor - Turgon
Manthor - Hardang/Hurin