Odd Man Out

[Telchar]

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Sorry you guys - though you came up with good answers you didn't get it!

Correct answer it Turambar - because he shared his name with a king of Gondor

Anar kaluva tielyanna!</p>

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Re: Odd man out continued...

Why don't you ask us another one Tel, Your questions are very challenging <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

...he heard Theodred's great voice cry "To me, Eorlingas!"</p>

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Re: Odd man out continued...

OK - I'll try to go easy on you <img src=roll.gif ALT=":rollin">

Morgoth
Huor
Gelmir
Maedhros
Azog

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Morgoth only Valar? Azog only one killed by a dwarf?

"Good Morning!" said the dragon. "You seem surprised."
"Good Morning! said Farmer Giles. "I am that!"
Farmer Giles of Ham </p>

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Azog, as the only one who did not participate in the Nirnaeth?

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Azog: because he was not born in the first age

"He turned to Eldarion, and gave into his hands the winged crown of Gondor and the sceptre of Arnor, and bade him farewell."</p>

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Azog, because he didn't live in the First Age.

...he heard Theodred's great voice cry "To me, Eorlingas!"</p>

[Telchar]

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NO NO NO - Come on you guys - this is easy <img src=laugh.gif ALT=":lol">

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Gelmir, the first to be killed?

This is actually hard! <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Morgorth because he used to be a valar or that he was the only one to see Iluvatar

"He turned to Eldarion, and gave into his hands the winged crown of Gondor and the sceptre of Arnor, and bade him farewell."</p>

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Apparently not as easy as I thought <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)"> - go on <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Re: Odd man out continued...

Each lost extremities after being captured by their enemies, save Morgoth:

Huor - head hewn at the close of the Nirnaeth
Maedhros - bye bye, hand
Azog - beheaded by vengeful dwarves
Gelmir - dismembered in front of his brethren by Morgoth's minions

</p>Edited by: <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000005>Mister Underhill</A> at: 7/13/01 3:24:00 am

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I'll give it to Mister Underhill because he has the right idear, although I dont quite agree - But it's probably me that is wrong ...

I thought Huor was odd out because he was killed by an arrow (it was said that the people which he fell among was beheaded, not he himself precisely. (But he was dead)
Azog was beheaded by Dain (Iguess he was alive when it happened?)
Gelmir - need I say
Maedhros - like Underhill said - bye bye
but Morgoth, didn't he have his feet hewn &quot;from under him&quot;? My english is proberly not good enough to determine wether he was just knocked off his feet or his feet was actually hewn off?

Go on Underhill!

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yep. His feet were cut off. It didn't even think of that, though.

"Good Morning!" said the dragon. "You seem surprised."
"Good Morning! said Farmer Giles. "I am that!"
Farmer Giles of Ham </p>

[Mister Underhill]

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Wow! This is an active forum. This thread has already dropped to the second page! <blockquote>Quote:<hr> Yet with his last and desperate stroke Fingolfin hewed the foot with Ringil, and the blood gashed forth black and smoking and filled the pits of Grond.

Morgoth went ever halt of one foot after that day, and the pain of his wounds could not be healed; and in his face was the scar that Thorondor made.<hr></blockquote>I always assumed that Fingolfin just gave him a really nasty wound to the foot. &quot;Halt of one foot&quot; means, I think, that he was lame in that foot forever afterward, not that he was necessarily walking around on a stump or some kind of iron pegleg. I could be wrong, though.

I haven't cooked up a new one yet -- but stay tuned. New Odd Man Out momentarily...

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I never thought Morgoth's foot was cut off either -- just wounded -- but it would make a nice symmetry. Morgoth footless, Sauron (and Frodo) fingerless.

Get you gone, and fly! For here is a fire that shall consume you and all evil things. </p>

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Oh, you people! When Fingolfin wounded him he was only wounded. When he was captured for the last time at the very end of the Silmarillion, the Valar cut off his feet and locked him up foe once and for all.

"Good Morning!" said the dragon. "You seem surprised."
"Good Morning! said Farmer Giles. "I am that!"
Farmer Giles of Ham </p>

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O.K i think we lost track of the thread here Mister Underhill you are up! <img src=tired.gif ALT="/I">

"He turned to Eldarion, and gave into his hands the winged crown of Gondor and the sceptre of Arnor, and bade him farewell."</p>

[Telchar]

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My thought excactly Sam <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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[Telchar]

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+1 week - someone ask a new question, please <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Re: Odd man out continued...

I'll pose one:

Feanor
Fingolfin
Gandalf
Frodo
Sam


HINT: the answer has something to do with travel, in a manner of speaking.

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Fingolfin is said to have sailed a boat?

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No that's not it. Although Fingolfin is not the answer, he used this particular mode of travel in a way different than the other non-odd men.

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Via Eagle? Feanor did not.

"I will, Lord." said Tuor.</p>

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Yes, you got it, Sam. All except Feanor were borne by an eagle, Fingolfin only after he was dead. I gues I cd have put Bilbo and Fingon in there, too, might have made it easier. Your turn, Sam.

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Avari, Ancalagon, Aeglos, Shelob, Anduin.

"I will, Lord." said Tuor.</p>

[Telchar]

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Shelob - Starting with an &quot;S&quot; ??? <img src=laugh.gif ALT=":lol">

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That's an odd one, Sam. Is it Shelob because it's the only name derived from old English rather than an elven language?

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Telchar got it! I thought a simple one was in order, hoping for someone to read WAY too much into it. <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)"> Thanks Ody, you made my day.

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I feel totally USED -- i gave this clever, Sharku-like answer and it was a trick! NASTY NASTY HOBBIT.

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And wipe that smile off your gob, too.

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[Telchar]

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OK - here is an easy one <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

Fili
Eärendil
Fingon
Luthien
Huor


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Luthien is the only female?

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[Telchar]

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nope - wrong direction - BtW neither of them have been in contact with, at or on Bob (that should save some time <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)"> )

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Fili only dwarf?

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Earendil was the only one who did not die?

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[Telchar]

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Nope!

HINT: It has nothing to do with family, age, race, color, names...


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[Falmar]

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All were carried by an eagle but Earendil.

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Yes - nice <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Frodo, Sam, Pippin, Merry.

Which doesn't belong? And why?

(Actually I can think of two answers to this one.)

And it isn't about their marital status.<img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Frodo never killed anyone in the War of the Ring?

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Pippin - for never writing a book (actually Im pretty sure he did but....)

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Sam doesn't belong as he's isn't a blood relative.

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Was Gandalf the only one to cross the sea both ways?

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Please ignore the above. I hadn't realised that there was more than one page, and so was guessing at the last one posted on Page 1.

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Only Frodo didn't get married?

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Odd man out continued...

Frodo was the only one with less than ten fingers?

"A little people, but of great worth are the Shire-folk. Little do they know of our long labour for the safekeeping of their borders, and yet I grudge it not."</p>

[Telchar]

I'll give a new one:

Thranduil
Gloin
Denethor
Bilbo

[Beregond]

Denethor didn't live in a hole, or cave in the ground? smilies/smile.gif

[Telchar]

Nope thats not it!

[Elrian]

Denethor, he wasn't at the Battle of the 5 Armies.

[Telchar]

Nope

HINT: Family

[Turambar]

Denethor didn't have a close relative in the Company?

Bilbo didn't have a close relative in the Battle of Pelennor Fields?

[Telchar]

Yor are getting pretty close turambar - but Im surprised that you wont call Denethor and Boromir Close relatives smilies/evil.gif

[ScuzzleButt]

how about denethor's son was the only member of the nine walkers to die?? Or Bilbo's Heir was the only member of the company not to be a direct relation?

[Telchar]

HINT: FOTR - Book 2 Chapter 2

[The Barrow-Wight]

I'm not going to look it up, but I thought I would say that I would have guessed what Scuzzle said... about Bilbo the only one not being a father.

Oh! Welcome to the Downs, ScuzzleButt!

[ November 16, 2001: Message edited by: The Barrow-Wight ]

[Telchar]

Hmmm It's so seldom that we see you in here BW so I'll give it to you smilies/smile.gif The Precise answer was that Only Bilbo didn't have a son present at the counsil of Elrond - Proceed, please smilies/smile.gif

[ScuzzleButt]

yes, I'm quite new. Ok, heres an easy one

Denethor
Pipin
Gandalf
Aragorn

[Elrian]

Denethor was not a member of the Fellowship
didn't smoke
was not at the Council of Elrond

Pippin was younger than 33

Gandalf was not from Middle Earth

Aragorn was raised in Elven lands

Did I get one smilies/tongue.gif

[ScuzzleButt]

ummm, no but you are no where close, Think of something each had in their possesion, at one time or another.

[Elenhin]

They all held a palantir (even if only for a short moment), but Gandalf was the only one not to look into one.

[ScuzzleButt]

bingo, we have a winner.

[Pippin]

sam wasn't at Bilbo's party? it doesn't say so in the family tree's, where all supposed party guests are underlined.

[Elenhin]

Turgon
Finwe
Feanor
Finrod

[Turambar]

Probably too simple, but -- Finrod had no wife, or child?

[Kin-strife]

Feanor eas never a king?

[Telchar]

Finwe was not killed in Beleriand?

[Elenhin]

These are all good suggestions, but it's a bit trickier. Turambar's suggestion was on the right tracks.

Think of the women in their lives (not necessarily wives).

[ November 21, 2001: Message edited by: Elenhin ]

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Finwe was the head of the Noldor.

[Turambar]

Was it that only Finrod did not lose a woman he loved, as Turgon lost Elenwë and Finwë and Feanor lost Miriel?

[Elenhin]

Yep, that's it.

In Finrod's case it was actually other way around - Amarie didn't go to exile, and so she lost him.
(Just by the way, does anyone know whether they got married after Finrod came back from exile through Mandos?)

[Telchar]

Frodo - the only one with only nine fingers - or the only one that could speak end understand elvish (to some degree) - or for not producing a bloodline heir.

[Turambar]

Fingon
Turgon
Fingolfin
Isildur

3 of them did something in a certain way, the 4th is not recorded to have done so.

[Turambar]

Try this one, Telchar - it never got answered. It's not a very good one but give it a try.

[Telchar]

I've seen this one before - and I cant seem to get about it...

well - Isildur didn't cross the Grinding Ice og Helkaraxe, but thats too obvious. and He was never High-King of the Noldor.

on the other hand Fingolfin was the only one to be burried???
Give us a hint master smilies/smile.gif

[Turambar]

It's not a great Q because it has a "subjective" element but 3 of them are renowned for doing something in a certain way and the 4th (hopefully !) is not.

[Telchar]

Im at a loss - but I am looking forward to your later revelation of the answer smilies/smile.gif

[Turambar]

I'll just give the answer and we can move on to a better question. Fingon (rescue of Maedhros), Isildur (rescue of a fruit of Nimloth) and Fingolfin (challenge to Morgoth) all undertook a heoic act, ALONE. Turgon is not especially renowned for doing so (at least I don't think so.)

Ask one, Telchar !

[Telchar]

Hmm the word resque came to mind, but it didnt fit fingolfin that well, as for heroic hmmm Yes well I always thought it pretty heroic when Turgon Marched to the Nirnaeth, risking the secret of his hidden city... But OK it still was a good question smilies/smile.gif

Try this one:
Tuor
Elrond
Dior
Celegorm

HINT: it has nothing to do with Family and bloodline.

[Turambar]

Telchar - but Turgon didn't march ALONE, he had 10,000 mail clad elves to keep him company !

Does your question have anything to do with cave-dwelling ??

[Telchar]

You're right about Turgon - and wrong about cave dwelling smilies/smile.gif

Three of them did something that the fourth didn't.

[Turambar]

Weapons? Was Tuor the only axe wielder?

[Telchar]

It has to with deeds - not items!

[Turambar]

That's right you did say that. smilies/frown.gif

OK did all but one of them slay an elf ?

[Telchar]

Yes that is caooret - Elrond never slew an elf. Go on. smilies/smile.gif

[Turambar]

Which elf did Celegorm kill?

[ArwenBaggins]

smilies/rolleyes.gif this is easy Falmar, FRODO doesn't belong because he doesn't have red hair smilies/rolleyes.gif

[ArwenBaggins]

Here's one:

Sam
Pippin
Frodo
Merry

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[Elendur]

The Precise answer was that Only Bilbo didn't have a son present at the counsil of Elrond...

I will take this chance to point out your mistake, Telchar. smilies/smile.gif Frodo is Bilbo's nefu. Bilbo was a bachelor his whole life if you remember.

And I beleive it is Turumbars turn. Sorry ArwenBaggins. You answered Falmars question when it had been passed up because he did not reply to the thread for over a week. So, according to the rules, even if you did answer it correctly it would not give you the right to make a new Post. And secondly, you do not know that you answered the question right. You shouldn't assume you did.

Just wanted to point that out. We are waiting eagerly, Turumbar.

[Telchar]

Elendur??? What are you talking about??? Mistake ... how can I make a mistake when I posed the original question? Bilbo didn't have a son present at the counsil of Elrond as did Denethor, Gloin and Thranduil.

[Turambar]

I think Arwen was answering the question at the bottom of page 1 - a very common mistake. smilies/smile.gif Elendur, I think, mis-read “didn’t” for “did” re: Bilbo. Anyway, try this one:

Fingon
Turgon
Huor
Haldir

[ArwenBaggins]

Heres 1: (its fairly easy 2)
Eowyn
Eomer
Legolas
Gimli
"We need someone intellegent for this adventure...quest...thing"
Pippin Took
"That rules you out then,Pip
Merry Brandybuck smilies/tongue.gif

[Elrian]

Originally posted by Turambar:
<STRONG>I think Arwen was answering the question at the bottom of page 1 - a very common mistake. smilies/smile.gif Elendur, I think, mis-read “didn’t” for “did” re: Bilbo. Anyway, try this one:

Fingon
Turgon
Huor
Haldir</STRONG>
Huor is Edain, the others are Elves?

[Turambar]

No - a little harder than that, but not much !

[Turambar]

Hint - unnumbered tears were shed over 3 of them . . .

[zifnab]

Was it that Fingon, Turgon and Huor were slain in the Nirneath Aronoediad. And Haldir was not?

[Turambar]

Right concept, wrong person !

[Legolas]

They all died in Nirnaeth Arnoediad except Turgon. Turgon retreated to Gondolin, with Huor and Hurin guarding his backside.

I think what threw people off was the case of two Haldirs - in this case, I assume you are referring to Haldir, a lord of the Haladin of Brethil, not the elf who resided in Lothlorien.

(edit)
Or maybe it's that they all contain the letter 'r' except Fingon!

[ January 23, 2002: Message edited by: Legalos ]

[Turambar]

Legalos (A Greek elf??) got it right. All were killed in the Nirnaeth except Turgon. Ask away, Legalos.

[Legolas]

Actually, I accidentally misspelled my name when registering. I'm trying to get it changed...quite embarassing!

Anyway, I don't know how difficult this will be.

Celeborn
Dior Eluchíl
Amdir
Galadhon

It's *not* that three were rulers of Lorien...I'm looking for something else.

Edit - changed one on the list, he made the question unclear.

[ January 25, 2002: Message edited by: Legalos ]

[Elenhin]

Amdir was not said to be related to Thingol.

[Legolas]

Not the wording I had in mind, but correct nonetheless!

All but Amdir were elves of Doriath (meaning they did come from the same line as Thingol).

[Elenhin]

There hasn't been an Orc-related question for a while, so here's one:

Grishnakh
Ugluk
Shagrat
Gorbag
Lagduf
Muzgash

[Elrian]

Shagrat was the only one that wasn't killed.

[Elrian]

Shagrat was the only one that wasn't killed.

[Elenhin]

Correct - go on Elrian.

[Elrian]

Arwen
Luthien
Galadriel
Celebrian
Aragorn

[Elenhin]

Only Luthien married someone who was not in any way related to her?
Only Luthien did not have Noldorin ancestors?
Aragorn was male, others female? smilies/wink.gif

Hm. I can't think of anything else right now.

[Elrian]

Sorry, no, no and no.

[Turambar]

Did only Galadriel marry someone wholly of her race?

[Elrian]

Sorry that's not it either.

[Elrian]

Think possessions. smilies/wink.gif

[Eowyn of Ithilien]

Arwen Celebrian Luthien Galadriel Aragorn
*hmm*
possessions??? Luthien had the Silmarillion at one time, Aragorn ended up with the Elfstone which Galadriel had given him, Galadriel had the Ring of Adamant...eek! all the girls are related...I hope this has given someone else a clue as to the answer lol

[Elrian]

Originally posted by Eowyn of Ithilien:
<STRONG>Arwen Celebrian Luthien Galadriel Aragorn
*hmm*
possessions??? Luthien had the Silmarillion at one time, Aragorn ended up with the Elfstone which Galadriel had given him, Galadriel had the Ring of Adamant...eek! all the girls are related...I hope this has given someone else a clue as to the answer lol</STRONG>
You forgot the necklace that Arwen gives Frodo. Nice way to pad the post count

smilies/tongue.gif

[Turambar]

Luthien never possessed the elf-stone?

[Elrian]

That's it Turamber. Your turn. smilies/smile.gif

[Eldarion son of Aragorn]

I thought that the obvious odd man was Aragorn, I mean him being the only Human Male out of the lot. smilies/rolleyes.gif

Anyway it's been more than 7 days:

Caranthir
Turgon
Orodreth
Dior
Maeglin
Amrod
Aegnor
Gil-Galad

Tough/easy?

[Bruce MacCulloch]

Dior
The rest were Noldor.

[Elrian]

Originally posted by Eldarion son of Aragorn:
<STRONG>I thought that the obvious odd man was Aragorn, I mean him being the only Human Male out of the lot. smilies/rolleyes.gif

Anyway it's been more than 7 days:

Caranthir
Turgon
Orodreth
Dior
Maeglin
Amrod
Aegnor
Gil-Galad

Tough/easy?</STRONG>
The Odd one out was Luthien. It was my post after all I would know! smilies/rolleyes.gif

[ February 17, 2002: Message edited by: Elrian ]

[Banazîr]

I got one:

Gundor
Glador
Gloredhel
Gelmir

[Bruce MacCulloch]

Gloredhel - his name doesn't end with "R"! smilies/tongue.gif

[Joy]

Your part right Bruce, only Glóredhel was a she! Glóredhel was the only woman in the group.

On Glador - is this what you meant? Or did you mean Galdor? If so, he could be the odd man out, for he is the only man, the other are elves.

[Telchar]

Hmmm smilies/wink.gif You're only part right Joy - Both reasons for Gloredhel being odd out qualify.

On Galdor - he couldn't qualify being odd out because he was a MAN... as Galdor also was the name of the ELF who was send as a messenger from Cridan and who was present at the Counsil of Elrond...

Gundor however was not an elf, being the youngest son of Hador - so he could be the odd man out if you consider Galdor to be 'Galdor, messenger of Cirdan' !

[Banazîr]

lol you are all right but nobody said why I choose these 4 names:
Gundor
Glador
Gloredhel
Gelmir

Gundor, Galdor(sorry I meant Galdor!) and Gloredhel are brothers and sister, Gelmir isn't related to them by any family link.

[ March 07, 2002: Message edited by: Banazîr ]

[Turambar]

Why don't you ask one, Telchar?

[Telchar]

OK - This one is a little different ...

The Road to Isengard
The Passing of the Grey Company
The Pyre of Denethor
Many Partings

These are of course Chapter Titles - but the titles have no signifigance - HINT: It is what happens in the three of the chapters that doesn't happen in the 4th...

[ March 15, 2002: Message edited by: Telchar ]

[Narya]

The Pyre of Denethor
- only chapter without poetry ?
- the only chapter that only discribes one day (no-one sleeps)

Passing of the grey company - only chappter without Gandalf

I am just guessing, because no one answered..Can you give more hints? I have somethings in mind but I have to read the chapters again..would be a good idea...
Has it something to do with death?
Or with smoking??

[Luinsewiel]

"Many Partings" doesn't start with "The"? Probbly not but that's all my small mind can come up with
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i just read the hint so never mind

[Telchar]

Excellent Narya smilies/smile.gif - on a further note, Eomer does not speark in Tha Pyre of Denethor - but does in the other chapters. Please go on. smilies/smile.gif

[ March 19, 2002: Message edited by: Telchar ]

[Narya]

Okay, I´ll go on

Gandalf
Eowyn
Legolas
Frodo

[Telchar]

I dunno, but here is some reasons that Eowyn is odd out: A: a Woman - B: not part of the fellowship - C: Never sailed West

Then again, Frodo could be the one for not wearing any shoes ;-)

[Narya]

No smilies/smile.gif -it´s something more detailed...
Something happened to 3 of them..

[Telchar]

Legolas was not attacked one ore more nazgul?

[Narya]

You are getting very close, Telchar. But that´s not what I meant...

[Telchar]

hmmm Gandalf never used a veapon against a nazgul?

[Narya]

Nope...
one hint: to one of the three it didn´t happen in LotR and it´s just mentioned once.

[Narya]

hmmmm... I think it`s time for another hint..(I have to admit, this question is a bit ..-strange smilies/rolleyes.gif smilies/biggrin.gif )
Okay, as said befor to 3 of them something happened, that didn´t happen to the odd man. And to one of the tree it didn´t happen in LotR. It happaned in another book (of course) and it isn´t discribed, you just get to know about it by a fact that is told in one sentence.

[Watcher in the Water]

Still clear as mud to me smilies/smile.gif

[Manwe]

Noone ever thought that Legolas was dead.

[Narya]

Another Hint:
The thing that happens in LotR to the two has something to do with the Nazgul. smilies/smile.gif
And to the thrid person it happened to it happened in a battle and not in LotR (some years earlier).

[Turambar]

Stabbed with a Morgul knife ????

If that's right, I'll guess Legolas as the Odd Man Out.

[ March 22, 2002: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Narya]

Yes Turambar, Legolas is odd out!
You are very, very close about the reason why he´s odd out... Think about the kind of injury Eowyn and Frodo had after they were attacked by the nazgul...
and think about Gandalf and what happened to him in the hobbit smilies/smile.gif
It´s about what part of the body was injured... smilies/smile.gif

[ March 29, 2002: Message edited by: Narya ]

[Narya]

Ok, since it been a few days, I think I´ll tell you the answer...
As I´ve said befor Legolas is odd out. Because he never had an injury at the arm/shoulder. Or just because Legolas was never injured in a battle.
Frodo had after he was stabbed by the Nazgul at the Weathertop. Eowyn had too and in the Hobbit it says about Gandalf:

... and there stood Gandalf, with his arm in a sling. Even the wizard had not escaped without a wound; and there were unharmed in the host.
So I suppose he was hurt too.
Maybe someone else posts a new question. Maybe Telchar or Turambar continue because they were close with some guesses.

[ March 31, 2002: Message edited by: Narya ]

[Telchar]

Damn We are poor! - and the question was very good - So I should think it most fair it you asked a new one yourself Narya smilies/smile.gif

[Narya]

Okay smilies/biggrin.gif -How about this one:

Eomer
Faramir
Aragorn
Gandalf

[alaklondewen]

Gandalf could be out, because the other three are Men.

[ April 02, 2002: Message edited by: alaklondewen ]

[Telchar]

I wote gandalf too - but because he wasn't the heir to any throne...

[mordor136]

i would also say gandalf because the other three are not immortal.

[Narya]

No, Gandalf wasn´t what I´m thinking of...
Hint: It´s about something 3 of them did during a certain time (of the story).

[alaklondewen]

Is Faramir out, because he wasn't at Helm's Deep?

[Narya]

No....
hint: The odd man out did, what the 3 others did, after the war of the rings was won.

[Turambar]

Is it that Eomer didn't meet a ring bearer (Frodo or Sam) until after the war?

[Narya]

Yes Turambar, your turn. smilies/smile.gif

[Turambar]

Thingol
Finarfin
Aredhel
Galadriel
Samwise

P.s. Narya you ask excellent questions; the "arm wound" one was especially good, and we should have gotten it.
smilies/smile.gif

[ April 08, 2002: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Dior]

Sam's a hobbit. I hope it's that simple, because if it's not I'll feel stupid.

[Turambar]

Not quite that easy. All but one did something.

[Dior]

The elves all were in Valinor? And not Sam?

[alaklondewen]

Didn't Finarfin stay in Aman after the exile of the Noldor (please, correct me if wrong)? If so, he would be the only one to not live in Middle Earth.

[Watcher in the Water]

Or is it Thingol as he never saw the shores of Valinor?

[Turambar]

Hint #2 - THink of a famous Tolkien subtitle.

[zifnab]

Here's a couple wild guesses:

1. Samwise was the only one not born in the First-Age?

2. Thingol is the only one that is missing the letter "a"?

3. All of them either touched a Silmaril or held the "Light of the trees" except Aredhal(I forget if the Phial of Galadriel was the Light of the Trees)?

4. Aredhal was the only one slain by a loved one?

5. Galadriel is the only one to wear one of the 3 Elven Rings(Ring of Adamant)?

[Turambar]

I guess this wan't a very good question - I have trouble making up OMOs. To repeat the two hints: (1) All but one person did something, and (2) think of a famous Tolkien subtitle.

[Telchar]

Is The Subtitle, The Return of the King Turamber?
Just hoping to close in... smilies/wink.gif

[Turambar]

Uh no (realizing that this question really sucks).

[Narya]

Thanks, Turambar... smilies/smile.gif
here´s a guess (but i´m not sure about it)

Finarfin- because he never learnt or spoke in Sindarin (or did he?)
Sam did at Minas Morgul...

[Turambar]

Nope. smilies/frown.gif

HINT - an old Tolkien subtitle . . .

[ April 10, 2002: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Belegfanaion]

How's about I just pick Galadriel for the fun of it, and we call it OK? (J/K... lol!) smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

[Turambar]

Yeah let's call ths one. The answer was Thingol - all the others famously returned to their former home - Finarfin and Galadriel to Aman; Aredhel to Gondolin, and Samwise to Hobbiton. The subtitle in the hint was There and Back Again.

Here's a better question, and an easier one, I think:

Elrond reads moon letters.
The Old Took throws fireworks parties.
Sauron falls.
Arwen arrives in Gondor for her wedding.

[Narya]

This wasn´t a bad question.. maybe just a little difficult... smilies/smile.gif smilies/tongue.gif

Well, for the new one:
The Old Took- sentence could be odd out:
-because it didn´t happen it the Hobbit or LoTR
- because it was done by somebody else again (Bilbo´s party).
-because it´s the only thing we don´t know the exact date for

[Turambar]

Narya - your last guess is close - except we DO know the exact date of at least some of the Old Took's parties - check the first chapter of The Hobbit

[Turambar]

C'mon this is an easy one !!

[Susan Delgado]

The Old Took's parties is the only one we don't witness first hand?

[ April 19, 2002: Message edited by: Susan Delgado ]

[Turambar]

Hint - 3 of them happened on the same date; the 4th did not.

[Susan Delgado]

The Fall of Sauron because it didn't take place on Midsummer's Eve.

[Turambar]

Thank you Susan !!

Your turn.

[Susan Delgado]

All right:

Eowyn
Boromir I
Elrond
Merry

[Turambar]

Was Elrond the only one not wounded by the Witch King? Or by a Nazgul in any case?

[Susan Delgado]

Yes, that's it.

[Turambar]

Good question, S.D.

Here's a new one:

Turin
Hurin
Beren
Maeglin

HINT: it is NOT that Maeglin is the only elf. Three of these did something that the fourth did not (at least, not in the Silmarillion). I guess there's a hint in that proviso, too.

[ April 24, 2002: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Dior]

Maeglin was the only one not to go to Doriath?

[Turambar]

Hmm that works too, but not what I was thinking. I find it hard to come up with "Odd Man Out"s with only 1 correct answer.

How's this - you could add Fingolfin to the group, and HE didn't go to Doriath (that I know of).

Perhaps it would be better to say that 4 of these guys had a certain (bad) experience, the 5th did not (at least, in the Silm).

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[ April 25, 2002: Message edited by: Turambar ]

[Turambar]

To repeat:

Fingolfin
Turin
Hurin
Beren
Maeglin

HINT: it is NOT that Maeglin is the only elf. Four of these did something (or had a certain not pleasant experience) that the fifth did not (at least, not in the Silmarillion).

[Dior]

Beren eventually died of natural causes, and the others were either killed or killed themselves?

[Dior]

AAhhh, they all met Morgoth except Turin?

[Turambar]

Good answer, Dior. smilies/smile.gif Your turn.

[Dior]

Alright! First one I've gotten!

Ok:
All of these people a very significant person the other didn't.

Hurin
Finarfin
Galadriel
Hador

[Dior]

Whoops! Make that all these people MET a very significant person the fourth didn't.

[Susan Delgado]

Everyone except Hurin met Fingolfin?

[Rosa_Baggins]

hiya im new.....ish joined this morning lol wha you doing? smilies/smile.gif

[Susan Delgado]

Welcome, Rosa Baggins. This is a great site with great people. I'm sure you'll have a wonderful time being dead! smilies/smile.gif

What we're doing here is, someone makes a list and everyone else has to guess what one of them does not have in common with the others. It's fun.

[Dior]

You could add Tuor to the list, and he didn't meet Fingolfin. So the list could go like this:

Hurin
Galadriel
Finarfin
Hador
Tuor

[Lómelindi]

Hrm…I'm probably wrong, but is it Hador?

I recall that all the others led or took place in uprisings against dominating powers of some sort, except Hador who was slain at Ethel Sirio in the Dagor Bragollach.

[Dior]

No, um, the odd man is someone who didn't meet that significant person.

[Dior]

I'm not saying you're wrong, just that you have to say who he DIDN'T meet.

[Lindolirian]

I'd go with Finarfin. He's the only one of the listed that didn't live in Middle earth so i'd say he didn't meet Melian perhaps?

[Dior]

Not what I was thinking of, but ok, I'll let you have it. I was thinking Hador didn't meet Turgon, but thats ok too.

[Lindolirian]

ok, so how about:

Khamûl
Finrod Felagund
Ar-Pharazôn
Tar-Aldarion

[ May 08, 2002: Message edited by: Lindolirian ]

[Dior]

Kamul's the only one to live in the Third Age?

[Lómelindi]

Hrm…Tar-Aldarion was the only one not lost to or influenced by Sauron?

Because Khamûl was second to the Lord of the Nazgûl and Sauron's lieutenant…Finrod Felagund was lost in the Pits of Sauron…and Ar-Pharazôn was wooed by Sauron to sail on Valinor, and to his ultimate demise?

[Dior]

Tar-Aldarion was the only one to die of natural causes.

[Lindolirian]

Lomelindi's got it! Your turn.

[Lómelindi]

How about this…

Frodo
Huan
Voronwë
Thorin Oakenshield

[Susan Delgado]

Thorin was the only one who was never in Valinor? Assuming Huan came from there and Voronwe once went there too....I don't remember what race he was from, but he was in Gondolin with Turgon's people, so he could have been a Noldor.

[Lómelindi]

Nope. Try again.

[Susan Delgado]

Frodo never killed anyone that we know of?
Frodo was the only one to bear a Ring of Power?
Huan was the only dog?
Frodo the only hobbit?
Voronwe the only elf?
Thorin the only dwarf?
Thorin the only one in your list to have a surname?

[ May 10, 2002: Message edited by: Susan Delgado ]

[Lómelindi]

I sense that I have offended…and confused.

Here's a hint: three of them did––or rather, went on––something the fourth didn't.

Hope that might help you out.

[Joy]

Voronwë was the only one who did not go on a quest?

[Lómelindi]

You got it, Joy!
Your turn for a riddle, my precioussssss…

[Susan Delgado]

But Voronwe did go on a quest. He went searching for Valinor. Just because he failed does not make it less of a quest.

[Lómelindi]

Sorry, my bad. ::does the famous Pippin cringe, hears Susan scolding her:: "Fool of an LE! Throw yourself in next time, and then you will be no further nuisance!"

I'm sorrrryyyyy… ::runs and cowers::

[Susan Delgado]

::Stands tall and looks very sternly at Lomelindi for a moment, then descends into giggles:: Ahhh, fuhgeddaboutit smilies/smile.gif

Can I ask one?

[Lómelindi]

Actually, Joy got the question right, so she's supposed to continue the thread.

[Joy]

Here goes. This is my first try at this.


Ingwë
Finwë
Elwë
Lenwë
Manwë

[Lómelindi]

Manwë is the only one who didn't lead a particular group of Elves?

Because Manwë is chief of the Valar, while all the rest are leaders of certain Elf races.

[Susan Delgado]

Is Manwe the only onw who isn't an elf at all?

[Joy]

Lómelindi is correct. Susan you are too. But Lómelindi got it first.

[Lómelindi]

Okay…I'll give you a hint on this one.
All but one of these people encountered a certain thing.

Fram
Eärendil
Fëanor
Bilbo Baggins

[Dior]

All of them met a dragon except Feanor, when he was killed dragons weren't made yet.

[Lómelindi]

Le, mellon. Correct, Dior. Your turn.

[Dior]

Ok, all but one of these were resting somewhere peacefully for a while, until something catastrophic happened.

Fingon
Turgon
Fingolfin
Hurin

[Dior]

Whoops, make that

Fingon
Turgon
Huor
Hurin

[Daniel Telcontar]

Well, all of them lived in Gondolin, except for Fingon. Is that what you mean? Then the catastrophic thing would be Nirnaeth Arnoedied, the Battle of Unnumbered Tears.

[Dior]

No, but you kinda got warmer when you mentioned the Fifth Battle, and it wasn't the catastrophic thing that happened.

[Susan Delgado]

I think we need another hint.

[Dior]

Geez, how much more easy can I make it? Lets see... How about, they were all resting at that place after the fifth battle except one of 'em.

[Lómelindi]

Well, Húrin sure wasn’t resting after the Fifth Battle since he was, uh, captured and put on Thangorodrim?

[Dior]

Oh FACE! Make that,

Fingon
Turgon
Tuor
.......Forget it, I was trying to say they were resting in the great mound of the slain, but I can't find someone else, so, someone else start one. Oh, and the catastrophic event would be the War of Wrath.
Crap, Lomelindi, I thought I had people stumped.

[Susan Delgado]

I'll go.

Aragorn
Tour
Hurin
Thingol

It's probably easy, but ah, well. smilies/smile.gif
Oh, it's not that Aragorn is the only one not in the Silmarillion.

[Lindolirian]

Aragorn is the only one from the third age; Numenorean
Tuor is the only man to be counted among the Eldar
Hurin is the only one to meet Morgoth face to face
Thingol is the only elf, only one to see the Two Trees of Valinor while they are alive.

[ May 24, 2002: Message edited by: Lindolirian ]

[Susan Delgado]

No, no, no, and no, but those are all very good answers.
Think relationships with other people.

[ May 24, 2002: Message edited by: Susan Delgado ]

[Lindolirian]

Hurin is the only one to not marry outside of his race.

[Susan Delgado]

You know the subject matter quite well, don't you Lindolirian? smilies/smile.gif

[Lindolirian]

Yes i try to remember such things...
Incanus
Hurin Thalion
Goldberry
Peregrin Took

[Lómelindi]

Hrm…all but Goldberry were captured and held by a dark power of some sort? (Incánus-->Balrog, Húrin Thalion-->Morgoth, Peregrin Took-->Sauron, via the Palantír)

[Lindolirian]

No think of something they all did.... or did in i should say......

[Susan Delgado]

Who is Incanus?

[Lindolirian]

Thats part of the hard stuff. ya gotta figure out who he is... but Lomelindi seems to know. smilies/wink.gif

[Susan Delgado]

smilies/mad.gif

[Elrian]

Incanus, Hurin, and Peregrin all fought in wars against a dark power (Melkor and Gorthaur the Cruel) Goldberry did not.

[Turambar]

Incanus (Gandalf), Hurin and Peregrin all committed trollicide. smilies/smile.gif Goldberry did not.

[Lindolirian]

Very good Turambar.. Trollicide ... i like that!! smilies/biggrin.gif

[Lindolirian]

By the way Susan , Incanus was Gandalf...

[Turambar]

Easy one:

Ulmo
Gandalf
Finrod
Tuor
Gloin

[Lothiriel Silmarien]

They all met Ulmo except for Gloin..........?

[Elrian]

Gloin never served a higher power, as Ulmo served Eru, Gandlaf served the Valar, Tuor and Finrod served Ulmo in some way. Also Gloin had never been to the west.

[Turambar]

I'm so sorry - I screwed up. The list should have been:

Ulmo
Gandalf
Finrod
Tuor
Thorin

Forgive me.

Only one of these had something, or did something.

[Elenya]

Which Thorin do you mean? There was more than one and I can't decide which one it is!!

[Turambar]

Thorin of the Quest of Erebor.

[Elenya]

Only Finrod held an elven-ring?