The Name Game

[Túroch]

Okay here's how it works. You give an alternate name for a character and the rest of us half to geuss his more common name such as this easy one. Q:Who is Mithrandir? A: Gandolf the Grey. Well i'll start of and hope some others try it. Who was known as Camlost?

[ November 18, 2002: Message edited by: Túroch ]

[Arwen1858]

Beren? I'm new to Tolkien, so if I'm wrong, and that's a stupid answer, that's why.
Arwen

[Melephelwen]

Maybe you are new to Tolkien, Arwen, (so am I,) but I get the same result. I too think it's Beren - Túroch? smilies/cool.gif

[Túroch]

Quite correct Arwen1858. The right answer is Beren. Camlost means empty handed. The elves called him that after he cam before Thingol without a Silmaril. You ask one now.

[Arwen1858]

I'm not sure how hard of a question this is for those of you who have been reading Tolkien for years, but here goes... Who was Alatáriel, and for extra points, who gave this person that name?

[tom bombariffic]

Alatariel was Galadriel, and is an ancient name, but I dunno who gave it to her. Do I still get the points?

[tom bombariffic]

Right then, new question. If I were to wish you a good "loa", what race would I be and what on earth would I be talking about?

[Lindolirian]

uh, hate to burst your bubble, but when I posted, I was posting my answer which came seconds after yours. When I found you had posted first, I deleted my post so as to not take up room. But you must have thought it to be a confirmation, however I did not ask the question, so I cannot conform it. We usually wait for the asker to confirm. BTW, Welcome to the Downs!!! smilies/smile.gif

[Arwen1858]

Yes, it is Galadriel. The name Alatáriel was given to her by Celeborn. Your turn now, tom bombariffic! Oh, welcome to the Downs and have fun being dead!! smilies/smile.gif
Arwen, Queen of Gondor

[tom bombariffic]

sorry guys, way to make the new guy feel bad! there was a thingy from arwen saying I was correct, so I wrote a new question, and then when I looked her conformation had gone. Sorry anyway though. can you answer the question?

[tom bombariffic]

just to clarify this, the question I asked at the wrong time was: If I were to wish you a good "loa", what race would I be and what on earth would I be talking about?
good luck and I hope I havent ****ed off too many people

[Túroch]

Loa? I'm not sure but doesn't Loa mean one year in elvish?

[tom bombariffic]

Congrats, that is correct! well, now you can write your question. make it a good one
Bombariffic

[Túroch]

Well since I did one just a little while ago i'll let someone else have a go if they will.

Oh and i'm not sure that the Loa question is a good name question. I'm more looking for names of people not exactly things.

[Curulin]

okiedokie, ill submit a question if nobody else will: if i were looking for Orald who would i be looking for, and, for a bonus, who calls him/her this?

[tom bombariffic]

Orald was my namesake's name to men of the north

Bombariffic

[Curulin]

thats absolutely right, i suppose if anyone was going to get it it would be you Bomberiffic! ok, someone else ask a question...

[tom bombariffic]

Which friend and Companion of Celegorm's finally abandoned him after his cruelty in Nargothrond?

[tom bombariffic]

ok sorry that wasnt a name question, I'll think of another. Sorry bout that (the answer was Huan)

[tom bombariffic]

OK, can anyone tell me who aiwendil is, and for extra points which race he/she might be associated with? (apart from his own)

[Rimbaud]

Aiwendil was the original name of the Istari later known as Radagast the Brown.

Who was known as The Tall?

[Frodo Baggins]

Well there are several elves know as "the tall" Maedhros for instance...

Bit there was one man that was know as "The tall"

Elindil the Tall

father of Isildu and Anarion

[Lindolirian]

Galdor the Tall, but then i think there were a lot of people called "the Tall", but I read about him in the Sil today and it just stuck in my mind for some reason.

[Túroch]

Sorry to step out of line Lindolirian but it's been about 2 weeks since you posted last and i've got a really good one. So here goes:

Who was known as "Star of Radiance". For extra brownie points who was Called "Star of Hope".

[Morgoth Bauglir]

uhhh.....aragorn?thats wrong isnt it/

[Gwaihir the Windlord]

Star of Radiance... could be aragorn but I'll have to research it. smilies/wink.gif

[Túroch]

No it's not Aragorn, but i'll give you a hint this elf is was a high king. The first one at least.

[TolkienGurl]

umm... Gil-galad? I haven't read the Sil...

[Beren87]

Fingolfin was the first High King of the Noldor...just a guess though.

[Túroch]

Congratz TolkienGurl a capital guess. You are correct Gil-galad means "Star of Radiance" Gil-Estel means "Star of Hope" and is the Sindarin name for Eärendil. Well the balls in your court now.

[TolkienGurl]

Who was called Grey-cloak? (it's not who you think it is smilies/tongue.gif)

[Pallando B.C]

Thingol: it means 'grey-cloak' or 'grey-mantle'

[ December 06, 2002: Message edited by: Pallando B.C ]

[TolkienGurl]

Great job! You may go now.

I thought that one would at least be a little hard... Oh well!

*mumbles to self*

[Pallando B.C]

Ok then, who is called Forn, and who by?

[the real findorfin]

Just off the top of my head.....is it Orome when he meets the elves?

No....didn't think so!

[Pallando B.C]

No, sorry the real findorfin, that isn't right

[the real findorfin]

Its Tom Bombadil! by the Dwarves

(I looked it up) he says looking smug.

(Can I go, cos I'm sure it is)Who was called 'Un-named

[ December 08, 2002: Message edited by: the real findorfin ]

[Pallando B.C]

Give a Hint!

[the real findorfin]

Well, what kind of people usually have unmentinable names, etc.

Think and you'll get it!

[Pallando B.C]

Then would it be Melkor?

[the real findorfin]

Nope!

[Pallando B.C]

Sauron, then

[the real findorfin]

Yep! Had to be one or the other really.

[Pallando B.C]

I know! Anyway who/what was also known as Sea-wing?

[Túroch]

Was it Vingilot, Earendil's ship? Thats just a random guess though so it's probably way off.

[Pallando B.C]

Close, but no Cigar

[Alatar_69]

was it earrame tuors ship? smilies/eek.gif

[Pallando B.C]

Correct, Alatar_69

[Alatar_69]

Alrite I'm new to this so I won't try anything to tricky So Who or What was Silverfoot?

[Aylwen Dreamsong]

'Silverfoot' is Idril Celebrindal. Daughter of Turgon and Elenwë; wife of Tuor and mother of Eärendil.

[Túroch]

So, who shall go next?

[Beren87]

It is now Aylwen Dreamsongs turn, because she got it correct.

[Aylwen Dreamsong]

Okay then smilies/biggrin.gif

Who or what were the Gwaith-i-Mirdain?

Aylwen

[Beren87]

The Nolder of Eregion.

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

'People of the Jewel-smiths'. Fellowship of craftsmen in Eregion.

[Aylwen Dreamsong]

Yup. Sorry for making it so easy.

Go ahead

Edit: Sorry Thengise, you're right, but Beren was too and got there first. smilies/smile.gif

[ December 21, 2002: Message edited by: Aylwen Dreamsong ]

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

It's alright, Beren's to good for me. smilies/wink.gif

Lead the way Beren, you're up!

[Beren87]

hehe, sorry im so fast Thengise.

What was the city of the trees?

[Aylwen Dreamsong]

Caras Galadon, chief city of Lothlorien, site of the court of Celeborn and Galadriel.

Aylwen

[ December 21, 2002: Message edited by: Aylwen Dreamsong ]

[Beren87]

Wowza, 2 minutes, that was fast.

Your go Aylwen.

[Aylwen Dreamsong]

What or who was Highdei?

Aylwen smilies/rolleyes.gif smilies/cool.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

[Beren87]

Early form of the name of the seventh and chief day of the week in the Shire


That was was HARD! I actually had to look it up which is rare for me. Good Job!

[Aylwen Dreamsong]

Yay!! I stumped Beren!

Correct, of course. Go ahead.

Aylwen

[Beren87]

Haha, yes you did.

Who was Mahal?

[Aylwen Dreamsong]

Another name given to Aulë by the Dwarves.

Aylwen

[Beren87]

*cough*completeguidetomiddleearth*cough*

Your turn! smilies/biggrin.gif

[Aylwen Dreamsong]

*cough*yes-i'm-a-cheater*cough*

LoL.

What or who is Iant Iaur

Aylwen

BTW, I knew who Mahal was anyway, I was a dwarf in an RPG once and learned it then smilies/biggrin.gif

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

The Bridge of Esgalduin

[Aylwen Dreamsong]

Yup. Correct. Right.

Go ahead.

Aylwen

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

Yay! I got it!

What or who is Culurien?

[Beren87]

Haha, that one i knew, but i couldn't spell it!

It's Laurelin.

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

*sigh* Once again you are right... smilies/rolleyes.gif j/k smilies/biggrin.gif

Your turn!

[Beren87]

What was the great sea?

[Aylwen Dreamsong]

Belegaer?

What was the great sea?

It was a sea...

Aylwen

[Beren87]

Yes, you are correct.

[Aylwen Dreamsong]

Cool beans smilies/biggrin.gif

Who or what is Astaldo?

Aylwen

smilies/redface.gif

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

Tulkas

[Aylwen Dreamsong]

*Sigh* yes. Correct! Go Ahead.

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

Who is Balan?

[Beren87]

I can't believe u asked that, I was just going to, so I know the answer!!

That was the birth name of Beor.

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

I'm psychic!

Yep correct of course. Your turn..

[Beren87]

What were the Aglorand?

[Pallando B.C]

I'm not sure, Aglarond is the Glittering Caves in Ered Nimrais, but is that what you meant?

[Beren87]

Argh! Infernal Keyboard of Doom!!

Yes you are correct, that was what I meant to type. Your turn Pallando.

[Pallando B.C]

Haha, good one Beren

Ok, who is 'the Shipbuilder'

[Beren87]

Oh tricky one, first for some reason I was going to say Earendil, but its not, its Cirdan . Am I correct?

[Pallando B.C]

Close. Eärendil's name means 'Lover of the Sea' and is also called many other things like; 'The Blessed' and 'The Mariner'

And Círdan was 'The Shipwright'

Try Again though, you're on the right track.

[Beren87]

There dwelt those of the Sindar who still loved ships, and Círdan the shipbuilder was their lord; but between Círdan and Finrod there was friendship and alliance,

Ok, thats where I got Cirdan from, but its not the answer you want (thought it is a possible one!). SOOOO, is the answer you want Tar-Ciryatan?

[ December 23, 2002: Message edited by: Beren87 ]

[Lindolirian]

...or maybe Aldarion? Just a guess...

[Pallando B.C]

You're right Beren, Círdan could have been an answer, but the one I was thinking of was Tar-Ciryatan.

Sorry for the confusion!

[Beren87]

What was the Hill of Sorcery?

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

I do believe that was Dol Guldur...

[Beren87]

You are correct! Good job!

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

What was the Eagles' Cleft?

[Lindolirian]

the Cirith Thoronath.

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

That is correct! Your turn...

[Lindolirian]

What is another name for the Land of the Fragrant Trees?

[Russandol]

Nisimaldar

[Lindolirian]

That's it!

[Russandol]

What and where was Black Glass ?

[Beren87]

Ack, nasty one that was Mat.

Helevorn, a lake in the north of Thargelion, below Mount Rerir.

[Russandol]

Gives you a warm glow when you get it right though doesn't it?

[Beren87]

Makes you feel important. smilies/wink.gif

What was Telumehtar?

[Mandos]

a constellation

[Beren87]

Bingo! That would be it.

[Mandos]

What was Rerir?

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

Mountain in Beleriand.

[Mandos]

yes...but can you be more speciffic? it is desribed as being near.....

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

Umm..Ered Luin?

[Mandos]

Hint: a body of water

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

To the north of Lake Helevorn.

[Mandos]

Yes! i thought it would take longer to find it. your turn

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

Yay!

Who or what is Turamarth?

[Russandol]

Is it an early form of Turambar, Master of Doom?

[Beren87]

Not an early form, but the Sindarin form.

[Thengise Greenleaf of Mirkwood]

Yep, that's right Russandol! Now it's your turn. Yeah I always have a thing for the Sindarin language.

[Russandol]

Going along with earlier/later forms ... what did the River Flend later become?

[Pallando B.C]

What Age did it under-go a name change?

[Russandol]

Not an Age of Middle-Earth per se. But it was the earlier name of which great river of Middle-Earth ?

[the real findorfin]

Anduin?

[Pallando B.C]

The River Greyflood?

[Ultimatejoe]

The Great River was always Anduin. When the elves first crossed it they dwelled in the lands below the Misty Mountains and were slow to pass them.

[Russandol]

umm, i would say great with a small and large 'g' for it was long in its course and its end was never seen.

[Clues enough?]

[ January 22, 2003: Message edited by: Russandol ]

[Pallando B.C]

Umm....The River Running?

[Russandol]

No..... I'd head further west and back in time if I were you.

[Ultimatejoe]

Gelion?

[Russandol]

Utuvienyes! UltimateJoe has it!

[Gil-Galad]

umm is this one still running or shall i start another one?


Elendil

[Pallando B.C]

Rather than giving us the most common name he has, give us a less-common one and we will try and guess his common name, (if you follow). It makes it more enjoyable!

...the Tall or Elendili or Star Lover.

[Gil-Galad]

nope neither and sorry about that but just a note wasn't Elendili also considered Anarion and Isildur and Elendil?

[Gil-Galad]

also shall i restart it? if so here it is

Eorlings

[ February 23, 2003: Message edited by: Gil-Galad ]

[Beren87]

Eorlingas is what I assume you mean smilies/wink.gif, which is another name for the Rohirrim.

[Gil-Galad]

i mean Druadan sorry

[ March 21, 2003: Message edited by: Gil-Galad ]

[Pallando B.C]

Túrin

[elven maiden Earwen]

oh Gil-Galad

[Gil-Galad]

DRUADAN SO WILL ANY One ANSWER!!!

[elven maiden Earwen]

wild men

Yay 500th post!! smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

[ March 23, 2003: Message edited by: elven maiden Earwen ]

[Beren87]

Technically Druadan is for Wild Man, (singular) or Woses.

[Gil-Galad]

i was thinking Woses so Beren has it i think? or does Earwen? you decide

[Beren87]

Earwen can have it, I was just puttin in my two cents. She pretty much had it right.

[elven maiden Earwen]

ok thanks Beren87

Thorongil

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Wasn't that a name Aragorn used when he travelled in Gondor?

[elven maiden Earwen]

yes you are correct sophia

[ April 06, 2003: Message edited by: elven maiden Earwen ]

[The Saucepan Man]

miss shopie

Earwen, have you been drinking? smilies/biggrin.gif

[elven maiden Earwen]

I have not I'm only 11, I just had to much caffine. Any way sorry it is now Sophia turn.

[ March 30, 2003: Message edited by: elven maiden Earwen ]

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Sorry about the wait, thanks for the reminder Elven Maiden, I'd completely forgotten I'd posted here.

What language is the name Radagast, and what does it mean?

Sophia

[Pallando B.C]

In the tongue of Númenore it means ' tender of beasts '

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Perfect! Your turn...

[Beren87]

Bringing this to the top to say, your turn Pallando.

[elven maiden Earwen]

anyone want to go?

[Lyra Greenleaf]

I hope no-one minds me going

Whose name means "Lord of the West" and who did he steal the title from?

[elven maiden Earwen]

The Valar were called Lord of the West, but mostly Manwe. Ar-Adunakhor also used this meaning for his name.

[Lyra Greenleaf]

Yes that answers the two parts of the question in reverse order!

[elven maiden Earwen]

What was the name of the place where Elwë and Melian met?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Nan Emloth

[elven maiden Earwen]

correct

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Which of Feanor's sons was indirectly named after him?

[Beren87]

Well, I guess you could say Curufin [fifth son of Fëanor] which has the birthname [more or less, same meaning] of Fëanor.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Hence indirectly. smilies/smile.gif Your go Beren.

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

yet again... Beren?

[Beren87]

Woops, looks as if it's my turn.

Which sword went from flame to death when reforged?

Cryptic, but it makes sense when you see it.

[The Saucepan Man]

Anglachel/Gurthang.

Anglachel meaning 'Iron-flame' and Gurthang meaning 'Death-Iron'.

[Beren87]

Tell me, do you cook as fast as you answer? You would dirty many a saucepan during a long day!

Correct, o'course.

[ May 06, 2003: Message edited by: Beren87 ]

[The Saucepan Man]

Cook? Me? Never! smilies/rolleyes.gif

Answer ME-related questions? Now, you're talkin'. smilies/smile.gif

What was an Ohtar?

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

A man. The squire of Isildur who survived the Disaster of the Gladden Fields.

[The Saucepan Man]

Ah yes, but I'm looking for the meaning of the name ... smilies/tongue.gif

[Beren87]

Hence the title, The Name Game. smilies/wink.gif

And it's Sindarin for warrior.

[The Saucepan Man]

Can you give me a bit more? smilies/evil.gif

[Beren87]

Not really.

From what I've discerned, it's more of a rank than anything else. Seems odd that it's used as a name.

[Arwen Imladris]

All that I found about him was:

Ohtar, The squire of Isildur: The squire of Isildur. One of only three survivors of the Disaster of the Gladden Fields, Ohtar rescued the shards of Elendil's sword, Narsil, and brought them safely back into the North.

[The Saucepan Man]

Oops! I'd forgotten about this one.

Well, I think that Beren has it, since it does mean "warrior".

In the footnotes to Disaster at Gladden Fields in UT, it is noted that ohtar, meaning "warrior soldier", was the title of all who, though formally trained and experienced, had not yet been admitted to the rank of roquen, "knight".

[Beren87]

Aha, that's a good question. I'll make sure to talk to lindil about that in the CGtME.


What was the hollow-dwelving?

[Orofaniel]

I am only guessing here....But I think the hollow-dwelving has something to do with hobbits, or hole-dwellers as they also were called. smilies/wink.gif Maybe the hollow-dwelving was their houses or something like that....or maybe I am completly wrong..

Orofâniel

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

I would guess Moria, as 'dwelving' generally refers to dwarf "architecture". But I couldn't find anything anywhere that confirmed my guess...

Sophia

[Beren87]

Your both wrong (at least, I'm pretty sure you are, I can't remember what the answer is at the moment, I'll have to find it again. But neither of those answers are correct)

[Sophia the Thunder Mistress]

Oh that's very reassuring, Beren. smilies/wink.gif

My next guess is Menegroth.

[Beren87]

I don't think so..

[Arwen Imladris]

Do you want to go and check and then give us a hint?

[Beren87]

Well screw, no wonder I couldn't find it, I spelled it wrong.

How about "Hollow dwelling"

[Orofaniel]

I think we need a clue...... smilies/eek.gif

[Beren87]

It's a cave-type place.

[Durelin]

Are you sure you didn't spell it right the first time? Because then I'd say Nogrod (meaning dwarf dwelling, actually) or Novrod, the original elvish spelling of it, a Dwarf City from way back when...

If it is still 'hollow dwelling', I'll say Novbar or Novmar. That is the name in elvish meaning 'hollow dwelling', though I don't remember it ever being used...eh?

I'm confused. Of course, it is Beren...

[ June 05, 2003: Message edited by: Durelin ]

[Beren87]

Nogrod actually does mean "Hollow dwelling", at least according to The Silm.

Your turn Durelin!

[Durelin]

Really? Hmmmm...close enough...

Okay, I'll make it interesting...maybe...

I burn you leaping for joy!

What is my name???

smilies/biggrin.gif

A bit strange, but...Beren is on this thread, so I must be careful... smilies/biggrin.gif

[Arwen Imladris]

Ancalagon?
Glaurung?
Scatha?
Smaug?

[Durelin]

Oops! I just realized I screwed up...I need help, seriously...

Just forget that one thing, sorry...here's the REAL thing, if you know what I mean...

This name is a bit repetitive in my mind. It means 'what the sun is'- sun

I didn't want to just give the meaning...I like to make it hard...so if you need a clue, I'll stop my nasty ways of confusing people, or I'll just give you a plain clue. Right...

[Arwen Imladris]

Is it Laurelin, the Golden Tree?
Anar?
Anardil?
Anárion?

If not then do you want to give us a hint?

[Arwen Imladris]

Perhaps Urulóki?
Malbeth the Seer?

If not then please, another hint!

[Arestevana]

Elanor?
El- star
anor- sun
and the sun is a star...

[Durelin]

Whoops, I forgot about you people! *ducks* Agh! Don't hurt me!

Anyways, yes, Arestevana, you are correct indeed! Pretty simple, eh? Your turn!

[The Saucepan Man]

OK folks, I have noticed that this game has veered away from its original rules:

Okay here's how it works. You give an alternate name for a character and the rest of us half to geuss his more common name such as this easy one. Q:Who is Mithrandir? A: Gandolf the Grey.

Recent questions, however, have been concerned with names in general rather than just names of characters. As such, the thread is too similar to the Names of Middle-Earth (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=000268&p=5) thread.

So, please can everyone make sure that all future questions follow the guidance above, so that this thread does not become liable to closure as a duplicate topic.

[Manardariel]

This game seems to have walked into the shadow of your minds.

New Question

Who was known as Stick-at-naught?
pretty easy, huh?

[Mariska Greenleaf]

Aragorn

[Manardariel]

Exactly, ol´Strider himself! smilies/smile.gif

[Mariska Greenleaf]

I'm really sorry, I totally forgot about this! Thanks for the PM Saucepan Man.

smilies/wink.gif

Who is also known as "Ernil i Pheriannath"?

easy one...

[Arwen Imladris]

It means ‘Prince of the Halflings’ and is reffuring to Peregrin Took.

[Mariska Greenleaf]

It is indeed! smilies/wink.gif

[Arwen Imladris]

O.K., who's name means 'Rushing Jaws'?

[Arwen Imladris]

Need a hint? He/She/it was killed by Eärendil.

[Faenaduial]

It was Ancalagon the Black.

[Arwen Imladris]

Yup! Your turn.

[Faenaduial]

Who was the leader of the Easterlings called the Accursed?

[Arwen Imladris]

Would that be Uldor the Accursed?

[Faenaduial]

That's it. Your turn.

[Arwen Imladris]

Yippi!

How about another name for: Fimbrethil.

[Mariska Greenleaf]

That would be Wandlimb, Treebeard's beloved entwife.

[Arwen Imladris]

Yup! Your go!

[Mariska Greenleaf]

Who was also known as " Voronda"?

[Arwen Imladris]

Elendil? Voronda means 'faithul' or 'steadfast'.

[Mariska Greenleaf]

That's the one!
Carry on smilies/wink.gif

[Arwen Imladris]

Yay! O.K., what is another name for Elwë Singollo?

[Evisse the Blue]

King Thingol, Greymantle.

[Arwen Imladris]

Close enouph, the answer I was looking for was Elu Thingol. Your turn!