A new kind of game (?)

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I promised I´d make one up, but this is all I achieved:
I call it &quot;Quotes that weren´t&quot;, which means one gives a quote which is not in one of JRRT´s books, but could easily be there, e.g. in situations where direct speech was certainly there, but is not reported to us.
The point about making them up is that there is at least one clear hint on the speaker and the circumstances. The advantage of this game would be that a solution can only be found through logical thinking.
And, a hint should always be provided what book this quote would be in, either Silmarillion, or TLOTR (or The Hobbit).

To make clear what I mean, I´ll give some examples:

&quot;I THOUGHT A ROSE WOULD FIT YOU WELL: I CARED MYSELF FOR ITS GROWTH; SO THAT IT WOULD ALMOST BE AS BEAUTIFUL AS YOU ARE...&quot; (LOTR)

The problem here is the level of style, but otherwise, one can find out that it is Sam talking to Rose Cotton:
a rose fits well, a hint on the adressed person´s name; a speaker who likes or reven loves the adressed person, and who could be a gardener.

&quot;FROM WHAT I HEAR FROM YOU, OLD FRIEND, THESE WERE TROUBLED TIMES INDEED; BUT THEY DIDN`T AFFECT ME, SAFE YOUR FRIENDS WHO PAID ME A NICE LITLLE VISIT!&quot; (LOTR)

This one can be made easier by adding a &quot;Ho! Ho!&quot; or &quot;Merry-dong-dillo&quot; or such: Tom Bombadil talking to Gandalf after the end of the war.

But now let´s go in medias res:

Who could have said, and to whom:
&quot;YOU ARE NOW MY GUEST. FOREVER! HAHAHA!&quot; (from The Silmarillion)
2 possible solutions.



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Re: A new kind of game (?)

Lately I have been concentrating so much on the LotR for the site, that my Silmarillion knowledge has grown a little rusty (a lot, actually). But the first thing that came to mind was that Sauron might have chuckled this line as he tossed Beren into his dungeons.

Perhaps there are more specific examples that this quote points to, but this is all I could come up with.

btw... this looks to be another clever game. I am seriously considering breaking all of these games out into their own forum here at the Barrow-Downs (A new categery, each type of game with its own forum). What fo you all think of that idea?

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Re: A new kind of game (?)

Yep, Sauron and Beren are possible. The other one (I accept both) would have been Melkor to Maedhros, or Húrin as well.

And breaking the games up wouldn´t do any harm, I rather think it will - at least sooner or later -be inevitable.

(btw, I &quot;borrowed&quot; my quote from &quot;Nightfall in Middle-Earth&quot; by Blind Guardian, where Morgoth says it - sounds really cool, because the speakers in the &quot;interludii&quot; are experienced Shakespeare-actors from England)

</p>Edited by <A HREF=http://pub12.ezboard.com/usharku.showPublicProfile>Sharku</A> at: 6/24/00 9:56:57 am

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Possible Quote

Not quite sure how to come up with one of these, I'll give it a shot anyways <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

Who might have said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> I'd have changed more than my mind if any more of you had showed up.<hr></blockquote>



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Re: Possible Quote

Hmmm... Frodo could have said it, alluding to when he left alone from the company . Had Aragorn and the others seen him leave, they could have persuaded him to stay, and things would have gone a totally different course.
But I don´t think this solution is perfect.

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Re: Possible Quote

I knew this one was not perfect. Focus more on the actual words of the quote and tell me if that helps. I have a clue I can throw into the quote that may help. But I'll hold off on that for now.

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Re: Possible Quote

Could it be Bilbo to the dwarves at the unexpected party?

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Re: Possible Quote

No... but that is a good guess. Certainly a lot of people showed up. But &quot;Changed more than my mind&quot; doesn't really apply to Bilbo.

I know... this one is weird...sorry...keep trying, please.

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Re: Possible Quote

You know, this is somehow real fun, both to make them up, and be specific in style, words, and so on, and to solve them, where you have to interpretate every detail.

I even think that Fangorn could have said it to the Hobbits - he would have changed his mind not to help them were there too many hasty little creatures (and when he says &quot;I&quot; he means both Treebeard himself and the whole forest); and he himself, as the whole entity of the Forest of Fangorn, would have been changed because of more &quot;intruders&quot;, tramnpling, or unintentionally hurting the trees.

And the quote is a good one - not too explicit, and of the kind which evokes associations in the reader. This is the essence of this game IMO.

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Re: Possible Quote

Certainly another good guess. But still not what I was looking for. I'll give a small addition to this fictional quote and then, if that doesnt get it, I'll just answer it so you can see my warped logic <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

Who might have said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> I'd have changed more than my mind if any more of you had showed up. Growl.<hr></blockquote>



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Re: Possible Quote

Beorn, when the dwarves, Bilbo, and Gandalf showed up. THat was my second guess even before you added the growl.

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Re: Possible Quote

Yes! That's it. <img src=biggrin.gif ALT=":D">

He might have changed his skin in anger if too many more dwarves (uninvited) had shown up that day.



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Re: Possible Quote

Do I make one up now? I'm not sure I would be very good at that. Maybe someone else could ask.

What's a burrahobbit got to do with my pocket, anyways?</p>

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Re: Possible Quote

<img src=laugh.gif ALT=":lol">
Great one!
And its style sounds really like directly taken from &quot;The Hobbit&quot;.

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Whoever wants to can go next ...

Whoever wants to can go next ...

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Re: Whoever wants to can go next ...

I know I shouldn´t ask two in one go, but the first is so easy, and it´s not made up but borrowed, too.

Whose words could as well have been:
&quot;Blackheart show me / What you hold in hand / I still hunger for more / Release me / From my pain / Give it to me / How I need it...&quot;

And who could have said
&quot;Nay, never hast thou been a heavy burden for me, for light is the voluntary, and heavy only the fiend in battle.&quot;

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Re: Whoever wants to can go next ...

The first one could be Ungoliant after killing the Two Trees, when Morgoth hid the silmarils in his hand.

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Re: Whoever wants to can go next ...

Yep, exactly.

Try #2 as well!

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Re: Whoever wants to can go next ...

Gwaihir to Gandalf!

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Re: Whoever wants to can go next ...

Yes!
Great finding it on first try, was it too easy?
I tried to put an easy context more cryptically, but it obviously it was still more or less clear.

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Re: Whoever wants to can go next ...

No, it wasn't easy. I had to give it some thought for a while. I actually figured it out when I was watching TV. It just kind of came to me and I went back to the computer room hoping I was the first <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

Lemme see if I can think of a new one. If anyone has one, go ahead and post it.

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Another possible quote...

Who might have said ....
<blockquote>Quote:<hr>
I'll crush you walkabouts if you don't tell your friends to cool it.
<hr></blockquote>

(Pardon the American slang)

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Re: Another possible quote...

Sure sounds like old man willow when Sam tried to liberate Merry and Pippen by kindling a fire against his trunk. Specifically what he (ostensibly) said to Merry who said that Willow warned him that &quot;he'd be squeezed in two.&quot; (Or something to that effect.)

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Re: Another possible quote...

Correct, galpsi!

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Re: Another possible quote...

Who might be supposed to have said, &quot;No need to cry on the baby, dear. So did he get off alright?&quot;

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Re: Another possible quote...

hmmm rosie cotton to sam after he comes back and she tells him that she lost her nearly-born child? i mean sam after seeing frodo depart

i know this is sick...

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Re: Another possible quote...

Oh my gooood!!! I laughed about 10 minutes at that!

Anyway it was SICK!

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Re: Another possible quote...

i know lol
but that was the first thing that came into my mind...


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Re: Another possible quote...

I hate to encourage infaticidal hijinks, but you were correct eventually. Anyhow, ask us!

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Re: Another possible quote...

wow not bad ... ok ill try (lol i cant believe it)

hmmm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>
&quot;I love you above all other living things on this earth and there is no way for me to show how i appreciate your decision!&quot; <hr></blockquote>

that ok? <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

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Re: Another possible quote...

It seems to me that Beren might have legitimately said this to Luthien after Manwe's choice.

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Re: Another possible quote...

well could be true but i didnt think of the silmarillion...

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Re: Another possible quote...

next time ill put a LOTR after the quote

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Re: Another possible quote...

Feels like deja vu all over again. Well, if LotR, then Aragorn and Arwen play the same parts, more or less. But didn't I just read this lament in a reader forum, if not in this site than in another?

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Re: Another possible quote...

Navigating pays off; this was the topic of a post I read recently -- the most recent (Earendil's) at Entmoot's LotR forum. Please pardon the plug if its tacky or not done but I am just wondering whether the several sites are generating a kind of Jungian suggestion which carries. Do tell Balin! Are we getting the same stimuli? is it coincindence? or did I just get your question wrong?

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Re: Another possible quote...

of course this is aragorn talking to arwen
but i made that up myself
i never was at entmoot's (oops sorry bmilder lol)


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Re: Another possible quote...

Balin:
&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp I certainly hadn't meant to accuse you of cribbing. I was confused because I had read the other post a few hours before. So in my head they ran together and I thought that someone (or me) had already submitted that answer to your post. I was mostly just talking aloud to myself trying to figure it out. Perhaps I should just shut up and give a quasi-quote.

Who might have said:

&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &quot;Oh god, was that something moving by the hedge? Oh! The gate! Very quietly now, easy, bolt the door...&quot;

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Re: Another possible quote...

That'd have to be Fatty Bolger right before he bolted from Crickhollow.

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Re: Another possible quote...

Please, his mother called him Fredegar, there's no reason we can't show the same courtesy. And I probably should have said &quot;Eru.&quot; Do Hobbits worship Eru? I forget. Anyway, yes,
Fatty it was.

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Re: Another possible quote...

I don't know that the hobbits practiced any kind of religion, though, having inheirited so much tradition from the Northern Kingdom, they probably venerated the Eldar, the Valar and Iluvatar (or whatever vague notion they still held of those icons)

Anyways.... let me think of a quote....hmmm

Who might have said ....
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> You don't say!? Full of gold? And nothing but a bunch of tunnel-rats? Time for a warmer climate.<hr></blockquote>
...and what were the circumstances?

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Re: Another possible quote...

Must be Smaug the Golden lighting out for Erebor.

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Re: Another possible quote...

Entirely too easy... your turn.

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Re: Another possible quote...

Who might have said:

&quot;Thror, I implore you, don't do it. No price is worth it.&quot;

and under what circumstances?

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Re: Another possible quote...

The circumstances were likely those that Thrór was planning to go back to Moria. The price (the Balrog, and the orcs) was not worth the benefit (mithril).
But who might have said it?
His father, Daín I, was no longer alive, as was his brother Frór. So I guess it would have been his brother Grór (Nár wouldn´t have said something like this, after all, he did go with Thrór).

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Re: Another possible quote...

You have the circumstances exactly right, but you are mistaken as to the speaker I intend. Scratch your head and think back.

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Re: Another possible quote...

Well, now I really have to guess...Gandalf?

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Re: Another possible quote...

colder

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Re: Another possible quote...

I thought so. But there were too many dwarves, I won´t start guessing one after another.

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Re: Another possible quote...

Actually, it's someone you've already named.

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Re: Another possible quote...

Omigosh, Nár hesitated at the door of Moria, and he tried to keep Thrór from entering this orc-dungeon, so, there he might have said it.

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Re: Another possible quote...

Indeed, and there the orcs threw to Nar Thror's severed head and a bag of were-gild. (For bonus points: something was written on Thror's head, but I have forgotten. What?)

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Re: Another possible quote...

&quot;Azog&quot;, if I remember correctly.

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Re: Another possible quote...

Sounds right! Bonus points to you (unless I'm wrong too). Anyhow, Sharku, give us a quasi-quote.

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Re: Another possible quote...

An easy one:

&quot;Please, Your Highness, let your faithful servant do it, and meanwhile, rest your weary bones.&quot;

Who, to whom, and one possible circumstance?

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Re: Another possible quote...

Sounds to me like Grima, in almost any episode.

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Re: Another possible quote...

Yes indeed.
Next one, please, Galpsi!

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Re: Another possible quote...

What was given and who might have said:
* * * * &quot;Verily Curunir, gladdened are we that you will stand above and ward the dwindled Rohirrim as well as our own Anorien.&quot;

btw Sharku, you are ducking the unresolved quote on p. 2 of &quot;quote of whoops.&quot; mach schnell! (bitte <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)"> )



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Re: Another possible quote...

And you, Kittle, owe us a new quote on &quot;A new quote that wasn't.&quot; Bitte.

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Re: Another possible quote...

Hmmm, the Steward of Gondor who granted Saruman to dwell in Orthanc was Beren, so he could possibly said this as a reply to Saruman´s request. Curunír was still a protecor and west-guard against the Dunlendings back then.

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Re: Another possible quote...

Das stimmt!

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Re: Another possible quote...

&quot;Harhar, so will all of you stunties soon look like if you dare to come into my fortress! I´m the lord here, and if you stupids can´t read what´s in your fella´s head, my name is ... the mighty!&quot;

What´s his name, and when did he proclaim this probably?

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Re: Another possible quote...

I would guess these would have Azog`s parting words to Nar when he gave him Thror`s head and a pouch of `coins of little worth`.

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Re: Another possible quote...

Perfect!
Your turn, Taimar.

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Re: Another possible quote...

Ok then, who might have said,

&quot;I will not leave this world alone. Come die with me, whiteskin!&quot;

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Re: Another possible quote...

Maybe what Ugluk said to Eomer as they fought hand to hand on the edge of Fangorn. Good quote, but he'd have been mistaken.

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Re: Another possible quote...

Exactly what I was looking for G., ask us!

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Re: Another possible quote...

OK, who might have said,

&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &quot;No, no. No need to engrave my name on the Doors. Well, if you think you must, put it underneath -- and smaller.&quot;

and on what occasion?

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Re: Another possible quote...

Narvì, who made the west door of Moria, to Celebrimbor, who made the inscriptions?

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Re: Another possible quote...

Yes.

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Re: Another possible quote...

&quot;There you have it, my dear. It contains all the trouble your pops once was in.&quot;

Who to whom, and when?

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Re: Another possible quote...

Sounds like what the widower Sam Gamgee would've said to his daughter Elanor when he gave her the Red Book of Westmarch. This in sight of the Tower Hills before he went to the Havens and passed over the sea.

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Re: Another possible quote...

I have to make up harder ones - you get all of mine right!
Your turn, Galpsi.

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Re: Another possible quote...

Yes, but I did this instead of girls when I was young. I'd have better memories if the opposite were true.

Who might have said,

&nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &quot;Ferthu Theoden hal!&quot;

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Re: Another possible quote...

Is that elvish or dwarvish tongue? Of so, then it was either Gimli or Legolas. I would guess Elvish first.

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Re: Another possible quote...

I don't know who said it, but it is definitely the speech of the Riddermark (Rohan).

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I´d guess Èomer. It could probably mean sth like &quot;Hail and farewell, Théoden!&quot;; &quot;hal&quot; remindes me of &quot;hail&quot; and &quot;ferthu&quot; could have the stem &quot;fer, far&quot; like German &quot;fahren&quot; (pass, drive, travel), English &quot;far&quot; and &quot;fare&quot;, Icelandic &quot;fara&quot; (pass).
Could Èomer be too obvious? Maybe...

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Yes, you've about translated it. It is the speech of Ridderark and it is something like Hail Theoden on your going. I'd have credited almost any answer with a Rohhirish speaker and a suitable context. (Anyway, I forgot to ask for context, but you guys were impressive). So Sharku, ask us!

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Who could have said (it´s a dialogue):

&quot;Aw, look at that, he won´t stand a chance!&quot;
- &quot;Naw, that shiny guy´s nasty with that sword he has. There, hit his leg!&quot;
- &quot;And another time! Crush him, crush him!&quot;
- &quot;Yeah! Squeeze that worm!&quot;
- &quot;That sneaky git! Hit our lord´s foot! But now he´s toast at least!&quot;
- &quot;Uh-oh, look who´s coming there up in the sky...&quot;

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Random Orc and Various Goblin (or Balrogs or easterlings or something) talking about Dagor Bragollach. The shiny guy is Fingolfin. In the end Fingolfin cut off Morgoth Bauglir's foot Then Morgoth smashed him to bits. Then Thorondor King of Eagles took flight from the peaks of Crissaegrim and marred the face of the Dark Lord and bore up the body of the King of the Noldor.

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Maybe I should stop taking the topic of that duel for all my questions, it has become too easy by now...but I like it so much...
burrahobbit, you´re perfectly right again!

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Who might have said:<blockquote>Quote:<hr> No! No! No! We hates it! We knows nothing!<hr></blockquote> And why?

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Gollum to Sauron, Aragorn or Gandalf?

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I was thinking Sauron.

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What is the Westron word for Morthond and frome where did it flow?

Woops... that was supposed to be a quote, wasn't it? Sorry.

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The Morthond was the Blackroot. It arose high in the White Mountains I suppose at the head of the Blackroot Vale.

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Correct. The Morthond was called the Blackroot, and it did flow from the Blackroot Vale. But from where in the Vale was its source?

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It arose upon the Dwimorberg and flowed beside the Paths of the Dead.

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That'll do. Yer turn, varmit!

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Who led three-hundred of his own green-clad men to the aid of Minas Tirith?

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Hirluin the Fair

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Lord of Pinnath Gelin. Ask us!

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Where was Elostirion? And who kept what there?

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It's in the Tower Hills. Elendil stuck the Palantir that looked toward Eressea in it.

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True!

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Where was that Palantir (the one from the Tower hills in the last question) in the fourth age; how did it come there?

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Didn't Cirdan take it to Aman on the ship that carried Frodo and Bilbo?

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Yes and no. He put it aboard Elrond's ship, but I always thought that Cirdan dwelt at the Havens after that and did not sail until &quot;the last ship.&quot; No?

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Yeah, that's right. Cirdan stayed for a while. Maybe took Legoas and Gimli personally ?

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I don't recall that JRRT was any too specific about it. Anyhow how about a question. And while you're at it, make it a quote. You and I have pulled at least two quote strands off purpose with trivia. I could solve the problem if I ever noticde on my own turn.

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Who might have said ...
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> Oh, horse, you are mine now! Whoa. Stop! Agggghh. Oof....<hr></blockquote>

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Gadalf the first time he attempted to ride the (surprisingly quick and restive) Shadowfax.

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Gandalf tamed Shadowfax and eventually rode him, but the rider who spoke this seems to have fallen off. Try again.

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If the horse is still Shadowfax, Gandalf said
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> Never before had any man mounted him...<hr></blockquote>
so it could be any man. Of course, probably only Theoden would have called Shadowfax &quot;mine.&quot; But I can't really seeing him failing to mount. I think that such a wise horseman would have succeeded or he'd have known that it was impossible and left Shadowfax alone.
Therefore, I'm guessing this might be Grima trying to mount the horse he was offered when he left Edoras.
<blockquote>Quote:<hr> &quot;Give him a horse if he wishes it,&quot; said Theoden. &quot;And if any will bear him,&quot; said Eomer.<hr></blockquote>

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Nope. The speaker was documented to have fallen from a horse.

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Another possible quote...

Must be Léod, Èorl´s father, who died being thrown off by Félarof.

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That's it, Sharku! Aaaaagh. Oof!

Your turn!

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I'm going to lock this thread out. Sharku, if you read this you owe us a New Topic <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

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