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Cibbwin
10-07-2003, 07:22 PM
Here is a, what I belive, to be a very complete Elvish dictionary for anyone who's interested.
http://jen1617.tripod.com/elijahsring/id30.html

vanwalossien
10-08-2003, 12:23 PM
Ardalambion (http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/wordlists.htm) also has very good Quenya-English and English-Quenya dictionaries, and also a list (http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/vocab.htm) of selected vocabulary divided into categories such as numbers, weapons, nature etc. and of course, the excellent Quenya
course. (http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/qcourse.htm)

[ October 09, 2003: Message edited by: vanwalossien ]

Silmiel of Imladris
10-12-2003, 07:40 PM
Just to warn people, don't write any fanfics with this Elvish in it to submit to a web site. This Elvish is not Tolkien Elvish and will be rejected from many sites in fanfics. One can even rejected for using Elvish out of the movie. If you want true Tolkien Elvish get the Languages of Tolkien's Middle-Earth by Ruth S. Noel. Just to warn people that like to write so they don't have the same let down as I did.

Earendilyon
10-13-2003, 02:15 AM
Silmiel, are you referring to Cibbwin's link or to vanwalossien's links to Ardalambion?

Anything but Arwen
10-13-2003, 11:52 AM
I have found a very good elvish site, and a more or less complete translation of most elvish in the films,here (http://www.elvish.org/gwaith/movie_elvish.htm#)

Aiwendil
10-13-2003, 01:07 PM
If you want true Tolkien Elvish get the Languages of Tolkien's Middle-Earth by Ruth S. Noel.

Actually, Noel's book is not entirely accurate in many places (that's putting it nicely) and is generally considered inadvisable. The best resource for learning the Elvish languages is Ardalambion, mentioned above. If you want a real book, there's An Introduction to Elvish by Jim Allan (who used to post on these very boards); but unfortunately it's from prior to the publication of the Silmarillion material and is thus not comprehensive.

Quettaparma Quenyanna (http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/2196/wordlist.html) is a decent dictionary - it's certainly the longest English-Quenya that I've seen, though it does still omit a few words and it contains a small number of errors.

Silmiel of Imladris
10-13-2003, 02:30 PM
All I am saying is that most Fanfic sites will only take Elvish from The Languages of Middle-Earth. I didn't say it was the most acurate.

StarJewel
10-16-2003, 08:06 PM
Are there any good dictionaries or books on Sindarin? I have looked everywhere and the only thing I found was the book by Ruth Noel.

Nurumaiel
10-19-2003, 02:19 PM
StarJewel,

The best dictionary and only reliable course I've found for Sindarin so far are located at the Council of Elrond (http://www.councilofelrond.com/). I believe you have to register to access the Sindarin lessons, however.

StarJewel
10-19-2003, 09:03 PM
Thank you so much. I am registered at Council of Elrond, and you are right, that is the only decent Sindarin source I have found so far.