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Lyra Greenleaf
02-24-2003, 04:54 AM
is there anyone else here from the eastend who is upset at being typecast as evil, stupid, hobbit eaters?

i do not, and do not know anyone, who eats scottish or west country people. cross my heart!


OK, enough being offended. has anyone noticed that the orc that chases merry and pippin is Phil Mitchell? same breathy voice and everything! i kept expecting him to say "Alright bruv?"
and i can imagine phil saying "Lets make a maggot hole in your belly Ian Beale!"

Meela
02-24-2003, 06:44 AM
im not from the west end, but i remember falling off my seat laughing at the ridiculous orcs. and yes, that orc does sound like Phil Mitchell!

Rose Cotton
02-24-2003, 11:44 AM
I don't think the accent was ment to offend anyone. I mean they need some kind of accent. What should they have used?

[ February 24, 2003: Message edited by: Rose Cotton ]

Meela
02-24-2003, 01:03 PM
outrageous french accent... *giggles*

Manardariel
02-24-2003, 01:34 PM
Oh PLEASE Meela, don´t make me even think of it.... smilies/biggrin.gif

Horse-Maiden of the Shire
02-24-2003, 04:28 PM
LOL! I can just imagine it...
"Ze hobbitz have ezcaped, non? Hohoho, I am outrageous French ohc. Die, mon enemie!"

eleanor_niphredil
02-24-2003, 04:29 PM
I wasnt offended. I actualy laughed. Not that I am cockney, but my manchester accent is very similar.

Meela
02-24-2003, 04:32 PM
what about a southern drawl? complete with cowboy hats and chewing tobacco?
(i cant do the typed impression...)

Mattius
02-24-2003, 04:42 PM
For those of you who have seen Snatch with Brad Pitt I think it would have been great if the Orcs had a pikey accent!

Lady_Báin
02-25-2003, 04:39 AM
oooooo how about that fakie villan accent, you know the one german-posh~english-french-spanish and any other non-specific accent smilies/biggrin.gif.
or maybe a boston accent eh?

DaughterofVana
02-25-2003, 04:48 PM
That would be good, though would you really want the association of Boris and Natasha with LOTR?

"Ve haf to get moose un squirrel!"
"Ack! Nein!"

I'm talking about the old cartoons from back in the day, not the dreadful live-action movie.

(Commence rampant discussion on why live-action R and B was a good idea.... waiting.... waiting.... thought not. smilies/biggrin.gif)

-'Vana

Mattius
02-25-2003, 06:21 PM
Hee hee, or maybe they should have had long moustaches like Daniel Day Lewis in Gangs of NY!! PURE EVIIIIIIL! smilies/evil.gif smilies/evil.gif smilies/evil.gif

Horse-Maiden of the Shire
02-25-2003, 08:48 PM
LOL! YES! HANDLEBAR MUSTACHES!!

vanwalossien
03-05-2003, 08:37 AM
You know, they could've had a Norwegian accent. Have you ever heard Norwegians who can't really speak English trying to speak English? It would definetly sound like they were up to no good..!

Anything but Arwen
03-05-2003, 11:30 AM
lol....can just see uruk hai sitting there plotting evil and twirling ridiculously long moustaches....

I swear that at one point Faramir sounds positively Australian....would probably be because he IS an aussie but thats not the point...mmm....faramir...

Arvedui III
03-05-2003, 12:14 PM
Just thought of this: It would be really funny if the orcs were yidish. "Oy vay,you shmuck! You let the hobbits escape. Mashugina!" smilies/smile.gif

Rose Cotton
03-05-2003, 03:20 PM
Or what about making the orcs American.

Mattius
03-05-2003, 03:25 PM
No what would be best would be a really strong geordie accent, "Wai aye man! War-ar we gunna duz wit deez tings like?!"

Antien
03-05-2003, 06:10 PM
i'm glad they just don't have canadian accents.it would sound ridiculus(and i'm canadian)

'what this aboot the hobbits escaping, eh?'

Luthien_ Tinuviel
03-05-2003, 07:48 PM
Please, say no more about the orcs being American! I am American! Although orcs with a Southern drawl would be very funny smilies/biggrin.gif . Oh wait, I just insulted myself. Not that I have a Southern drawl or anything (I hope), but I am from the South. smilies/cool.gif

DaughterofVana
03-06-2003, 02:15 PM
YIDDISH ORCS!!!! ROTFL!! (that was the first time I've ever typed that phrase, btw smilies/biggrin.gif)

I think "Oy" is the greatest word alive... you can't say it without smiling. Brilliant! Though the orcs that say it would cease to be frightening.... wait. The Orcs that had the accents in the first place weren't really frightening anyway. smilies/smile.gif

Off topic, but I don't care: was Gangs of NY a good movie?

-'Vana

Arvedui III
03-06-2003, 05:19 PM
Oy is the greatest word there is, Gangs of NY is an auesome movie, canadian or southern orcs would uproariously funny( since I'm from the south, the orcs would probibly end up sounding like me and my friends, Gaah, scary thought) and I bow to Daughter of Vana for her use of the word ROTFL.
Ok, I'm done. Please continue this wonderful discustion.

Horse-Maiden of the Shire
03-06-2003, 05:27 PM
Well, even though I am Canadian, Canadian Orcs would be HILARIOUS!

"How aboot those durned hobbits, Eh? Let's go eat some beavers!"

Lyra Greenleaf
03-07-2003, 01:11 PM
yay! down with cockney orcs! no more phil mitchell!

i think really really thick german accents:
"Ve vant information! Vhere is ze ring? ve have vays of making you talk..."

Kalimac
03-09-2003, 02:04 AM
I like the idea of Orcs with German accents; not to be offensive to anyone here (hey, I've got German blood about three generations back, along with a lot of Slav) but it's not as if the English-speaking world is unused to the idea of hearing its villains speak with a German accent.

Yiddish Orcs would be something else. Imagine the insults when they really got going! I'd pay good money to see Ugluk and Grishnakh laying into each other like that...

U: I'm Ugluk. I'm the mensch here.

S: Oy, yes, and you and your schlemiels will be bringing those little momzers to the White Hand.

U: Hok'n chaynik! I never heard such mishegoss.

Southern Orcs would be interesting, but (speaking as a northerner) they'd talk way too slowly. Merry and Pippin could cut their bonds and slip away while Grishnakh and Ugluk were still fencing verbally.

Alas, the only suggestion I can add is kind of lame. Oxonian Orcs, maybe? "Really, Grishnakh, so the grousing begins August 12, you say?" "Why yes it does, but hobbiting begins TODAY!"

Lyra Greenleaf
03-09-2003, 06:29 AM
not to be offensive to anyone here (hey, I've got German blood about three generations back, along with a lot of Slav)

believe me, i wasn't going for offence. I'm half Austrian myself!

Mattius
03-09-2003, 03:45 PM
Just finished watching Goldmember for the 100th time and how about Orc's with the Dutch accent?

"Yessh, thesh hobbitsh are shhalty good yesh. Oh thatsh a keeeper. Hey guysh I have a Dutcsh accshent ishn't dat vierd!"