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Lord of Angmar
09-03-2003, 01:05 PM
Legolas seems to be one of the most talked about characters in these fora, although he is merely (gasp!) a supporting character in the books and in the movies. Take some time here and express your feelings about Orlando Bloo...er...the Prince of Mirkwood, whether you are a screaming fan girl, a Legolas-hater or a disgruntled Tolkienite, dismayed at his portrayal in Peter Jackson's films. I personally love Legolas's role in the books and harbor no ill-will to movie-Legolas. No dark fantasies about dismembering Orlando Bloom here. Your thoughts?
If you want, you can write a poem about him. Try to succeed where I have failed and make your posts humorous.
Forest Walker
09-03-2003, 01:34 PM
if i must look at one more drooling legolass fangirl they will have to lock me up in a big room with rubber walls. I have nothing against the character, but please! too much is too much!
Meela
09-03-2003, 01:40 PM
Orli is a great guy, he does a great job in Lotr, and I think of him as other characters as well.
Legolas is very nice, very elegant, and would be better off as a brunette.
Legolas Bloom
Sat in his room
Eating some curds and whey
Along came a spider, who said
"Hey! Get out of Mirkwood! It's mine!"
And off he went
Down the long and winding road
Till lo! he was spent
And he almost ate a toad
So he came to Imladris,
Gave the party a miss,
And went to the Council instead.
Here endeth the poem and beginneth the story of Legolas Bloom the elven actor.
(Where the heck did that come from?? I must be more ill than I thought.)
Sapphire_Flame
09-03-2003, 02:54 PM
*applauds Meela's kewl little poem* smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif
My opinion on Legolas... He's pretty cool. PJ gave him a pretty cool look in the Movies (I've got my hair in Legolas-braids right now). He's a great archer, which I think is amazing (I'm bad at archery...). Honestly though, I'm so sick of listening to the Nazgirls and Leggie-boppers going on and on about how hot "that blond elf guy"/"Leggie" is. (they don't even know his name half the time; how pathetic is that?)
My two cents... smilies/wink.gif
Abedithon le,
~*~Aranel~*~
Evisse the Blue
09-03-2003, 03:16 PM
LOL- Meela, that was brilliant!
The problem I have with Leggy/Mr Bloom is really quite a common one. It's simply that wherever I go - there he is. Not only on LOTR sites, folks, but also on random yahoo pages, google searches on the subject of my my thesis paper (escapism that is), X files forums, even Elijah Wood sites, for crying out loud. The madness really needs to stop - either I'm gonna start hating the guy or I'm gonna develop a crush on him myself. But then I'd be an outcast anyway, cause I can't speak the fangirls' language. Sorry for the seemingly endless rant - I just needed to get this off my back smilies/tongue.gif . Thanks for bearing with me smilies/wink.gif
merenwen
09-03-2003, 03:43 PM
i like both orlando bloom and legolas. I dont really have a problem with leggyboppers because whenever i mention LOTR in my school all i get is blank stares or "I bet you like that hot elf guy, what's his name? Orlando Blue?" but oh well.
~merenwen~
Elwen_starmaiden
09-03-2003, 04:30 PM
I feel the same as Evisse the Blue, I actually do like him, but I swear ppl have gone too far! Its gotten to a point where I might possibly skip his movies in theatres because of the fanclubs! At least I like the movies for the stories, not him (he's just an added bonus) smilies/biggrin.gif Maybe I should cool it on the OB craze so I don't turn into one of them zombies. Plus my mom keeps calling him Legoland which makes me want to kick her smilies/biggrin.gif
Ainaserkewen
09-03-2003, 04:42 PM
Legolas is an interesting character...
A supporting character yes, but nessesary.
For one, Tolkien hasn't spent much time describing his character, so he comes off as very mysterious. We know he is the prince of Mirkwood, but the Mirkwood elves are strange and unknown, I am trying to descover some of their more detailed history in the Silmarillion and the Unfinished tales, looking for clues and information on the king and his people. So since there lacks information on them, we don't know how old Legolas is, who his mother is, whether or not he has siblings...etc.
So we don't really know this character, except that he's an elf, and a cool one at that. He's kind of on the same level as the dwarves, you don't know much about them, but they're there and very cool.
Picking on the movies a little, I think that even though they did a good job in keeping Legolas mysterious, they did make him of a showoff. The archery for one, and the mounting on the horse and the slidding down stone steps. You all know what I'm talking about.
My opinions on Orlando Bloom himself are that he's an attractive member of the cast and because of all his cool stunts he brings a audience of Nazgirls to the theaters, a marketing scheme of the producers no doubt. At least he, in my opinion, is a really good actor, not just a pretty face.
Finwe
09-03-2003, 06:09 PM
Right! What she said!
I number myself among the minority who actually truly enjoyed Legolas' character in the movies and Orlando Bloom's acting. I think that man did a wonderful job, considering this was his first movie! He brought an element of mystery into the movie, since no one has seen him before in movies, and thus, we don't really know his acting style.
Lord of Angmar
09-03-2003, 06:45 PM
Actually it was Orlanod's second movie, but it was his first big role. I enjoyed his acting also, although I think Legolas's role could have been expanded and his personality be taken beyond that of a noble, cocky Elven Prince. I don't think he was trying to show off in any of those scenes, although Peter Jackson surely was trying to show him off smilies/wink.gif. I think he just did those 'stunts' because he had the ability to do them and because they advanced the group cause, similar to in the books where he walks over the snow of Caradhras without falling through in order to scout for the Fellowship. The horse-jumping scene was one of my favorite for sheer excitement when I saw the movie in the theaters. Why make the horse stop to mount it when you face the onslaugh of a pack of wargs? smilies/evil.gif
ElenCala Isil
09-03-2003, 08:10 PM
I don't mind Legover, erm, I mean Legolas, but I think his character was blown way out of proportion by rabid fangirls. *dips spke in urple paint* but I'm ready if any try to pelt me with reasons why I shouldn't have said that smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/tongue.gif smilies/rolleyes.gif
Gorwingel
09-03-2003, 09:59 PM
I live with a Legolas fan girl, but I am certainly not one. I don't really pay much attention to Legolas in the books, and his portrayal in the films is fine for a supporting charater. Talking about Orlando Bloom though, I personally do think that he looks good (though he more hansome to me in POTC), but that is just because I am a 17 year old girl. But I don't go crazy over him. I think the whole infatuation with Orlando by teenage girls is crazy, and I don't even think that Orlando realizes how insane it is. Whenever I have said that I have met actors from the LOTR, everyone always asks me first if I had met Orlando, and that is kind of annoying, because he is not really the most important charater in the film, and I wish people would pay more attention to the other people who just happen to have bigger, more important roles.
Horse-Maiden of the Shire
09-04-2003, 09:31 AM
One of my best friends is a Leggybopper, and it makes me die a little inside. For example, her name on MSN chat is (or was, rather) "Orlando_bloom_2_die_for"
Whenever I bring up the subject of Lord of the Rings or Pirates of the Caribbean, she says, "Oh, yeah! And Orlando Bloom! Blah blah blah blah blah!"
In an evil mood, I told her that Legolas dies horribly at the end of Return of the King. She's too lazy to read the books, so she believed me, and my other friend, whom I had conspired with ( and who is NOT a Leggybopper, thank Eru) backed me up. Now when we go to see it, at the end when Legolas does NOT die, I'm going to act outraged and say "What?!? What the heck is going on? Legolas is supposed to die! Death by orc! DEATH BY ORC!" I wonder how long I can keep it up for...
the guy who be short
09-04-2003, 12:26 PM
Book Legolas - yay! Fun! Strong! Witty! Great Archery! Great character!
Movie Legolas/Orlando Bloom - Good acting, but some stupid lines. "A red sun rises, blood has been spilt this night." Righty-o...
Leggyboppers - Should all be cruelly punished using the slow torture methods I spend my spare time thinking up.
ElenCala Isil
09-04-2003, 12:41 PM
Leggyboppers - Should all be cruelly punished using the slow torture methods I spend my spare time thinking up.
You could just get them to write fan fic then send them to Miss Cam... smilies/evil.gif
I didn't much care for Legolas in the movie, I agree that his lines were a bit... odd. And some were just blaringly obvious.
The book Legolas was a bit better, and wasn't blown out of proportion as he's just a supporting character.
Oh yes, spikes also work very well.
Faenaduial
09-04-2003, 12:55 PM
Meela, your poem is terrific.
I love this topic! I am not a Fan Girl but I do love the Legolas character in the book; as I love all the members of the Fellowship.
Look at the Essay Contest here on the BDs for my take on Legolas.
As for Orlando Bloom, I always appreciate when they cast good looking men in the movies. smilies/biggrin.gif I liked his blonde/blue eyed Legolas look and I like him even better with his normal brown hair/brown eyes. Plus he shoots a mean arrow! smilies/evil.gif
Oddwen
09-04-2003, 01:36 PM
I've always been curious to why he has such a massive following.
Me too, Dynaviir! I can't understand it. smilies/confused.gif
Book Legolas: Great character, love him to death.
Movie Leggy/Orlando Bloom: Yuck. If I were to start hating LotR tomorrow, he would be why. I at least avoid movies because of him.
Evisse the Blue
09-04-2003, 04:18 PM
Fun fact: Do you know how many sites dedicated to Orlando/Legolas (I don't really think the legolasses make any differerence between the two) are there on the net? 377 000.
(before anyone asks me, no - I did not make a search myself, they said so in a talkshow. The poor guy was terrified when they told him - smilies/biggrin.gif
[ September 04, 2003: Message edited by: Evisse the Blue ]
Ainaserkewen
09-05-2003, 04:45 PM
Man, it's amazing how 1 supporting actor can make such a huge splash his first time in the water. That's the best way to start out an acting career. I mean, look at all everyone's favorite actors and actresses, a lot of them started out being a minor heart throb with large groups of loyal fans. I'm thinking Harrison Ford, Leonardo, George Clooney and all them amazing guys.
In an evil mood, I told her that Legolas dies horribly at the end of Return of the King.
Horse girl, that's a hilarious idea, I'm gonna do that to all my most annoying frineds.
Feared Half-Elf
09-06-2003, 08:45 AM
Personally, I'm a huge Legolas fan. I really liked him in the books, and the fact that he's good-looking in the films is a bonus. I suppose there is only too far you can go, and all the screaming fangirls have gone too far. He's cool, I mean, he's a kinsman to me, so of course I'm gonna like him!
Lyta_Underhill
09-06-2003, 09:18 AM
Personally, I can see why fangirls go for Mr. Bloom, but he just doesn't trip my trigger at all! There are times when he is interesting to look at, such as the times his eyes reflect a supressed emotion or intensity (gotta give him credit for that!), but I rather think of his looks as something to be overcome than something to be flaunted.
Legolas, on the other hand (see how I neatly separate this Bloomin' "Leggy" character from the noble Prince of Mirkwood? ) is a wonderful and understated character. I think it is interesting that the fact that he is the son of a King is completely downplayed and he himself does not make a thing of it. Far from being a "stuck up elf" Legolas is one of the most humble Elves I know of! It is too bad that this "Leggy syndrome" has arisen, because it does not fit with the Legolas character in the slightest IMO. The thing that irritates me is when someone calls him a stuck up elf or implies that he may have "I'm too pretty to be seen with these dirty people" sentiments, because that is SO not Legolas and appears to be an unfortunate offshoot from this Leggybopper thing. OK, I suppose that's enough of my rant; thanks for your indulgence! smilies/smile.gif
Cheers,
Lyta
[ September 06, 2003: Message edited by: Lyta_Underhill ]
Forest Walker
09-06-2003, 10:09 AM
In an evil mood, I told her that Legolas dies horribly at the end of Return of the King. She's too lazy to read the books, so she believed me, and my other friend, whom I had conspired with ( and who is NOT a Leggybopper, thank Eru) backed me up. Now when we go to see it, at the end when Legolas does NOT die, I'm going to act outraged and say "What?!? What the heck is going on? Legolas is supposed to die! Death by orc! DEATH BY ORC!" I wonder how long I can keep it up for...
lol!! smilies/biggrin.gif Sadly the people i know that have (or had, one's cooled down now) the legolas-sickness have all read the books. I would have loved to do that to one of them! smilies/evil.gif smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/evil.gif smilies/biggrin.gif
I think the legolas in the books is alright. In the movies, he just seems to be there to see far-off things and make strange remarks "red sun rises"......suuuure
Linnamalle
09-06-2003, 10:46 AM
I've always been curious to why he has such a massive following.
Okay, since nobody else has taken the bait on this question, I will give it my best shot.
Let's get the obvious out of the way. He's cute/handsome/attractive (pick one.) He's tall, slender, lithe, leonine, a capable warrior, etc etc. So much for the physical. But there's more than one of those out there, so still one may ask, why LegOrly?
Consider the following list:
Gentleness
Kindness
Faithfulness
Self-Control
Peacefulness
Patience
Loyalty (see Faithfulness)
Consider list number 2:
As princes go, he's not eactly arrogant or power-pushy
As elves go, he's remarkably approachable
As comrades go, he seems very easy to get along with (who besides Gimli ever really argues with Legolas, aside from his Helm's Deep argument with Aragorn?)
As Warriors go, he's able to count corpses with a laugh and smile and a sparkle in his eye
He's cool-headed under pressure, yet shoots with deadly accuracy
He is at once valiant and dangerous to an enemy, and yet completely safe and non-threatening to an ally (rather important these days to a number of females who have been victimized by someone they should have been able to trust.)
He doesn't have a problem with his temper.
He doesn't have a sharp tongue.
He doesn't enjoy handing out criticism.
He doesn't avoid emotion, or scorn it (consider his gentle response to Gimli's grief at leaving Galadriel.)
Now my point is, what girl wouldn't want a loyal, gentle, kind, non-threatening, non-argumentative, powerful man like that if he was available?
In short, he is very, very, very safe. LegOrly will probably never hurt you unless you switch over to The Dark Side. Wouldn't you want him as an ally? I would. What girl hasn't at some point in time created a dream-partner remarkably like what I've just described?
Once you have that: gentlesness, kindness, sensitivity, safety, loyalty, valor and reliability-- being ethereally gorgeous probably doesn't detract much, and may even add considerable appeal.
I should probably finish my post by firmly stating that given a free choice, I prefer Book-Frodo, myself. But considering the above lists, I can certainly understand why so many females find LegOrly so very extremely appealing. If I were still a teenager, who knows what my reaction to him might have been?
peonydeepdelver
09-06-2003, 11:12 AM
I don't understand the big wave of Orlando/Legolas fans that have arisen. I personally prefer hobbits over Elves any day. smilies/tongue.gif But on some LOTR role-play sites I've joined, (haven't gotten to trying the Barrow-downs ones) half the girls roleplay as a female Elven warrior who also just so happens to be Legolas' long lost sister, cousin, or his girlfriend. It makes me want to vomit. Okay, maybe vomit is too strong of a word. But I'm one of the few that have made up a character on those sites that actually has nothing at all to do with any of Tolkien's. Besides, I dun think Legolas would particularly enjoy having 20+ sisters. smilies/eek.gif I know I wouldn't.
Lyta_Underhill
09-06-2003, 11:19 AM
Now my point is, what girl wouldn't want a loyal, gentle, kind, non-threatening, non-argumentative, powerful man like that if he was available?
Good point, Linnamalle! "Non-threatening elf" reminds me of a magazine that Lisa Simpson used to read called "Non-threatening boys." Perhaps it is partially that way! And I'm right with you on the book-Frodo sentiment! One of my absolute favorites, along with book-Pippin! smilies/biggrin.gif
Cheers,
Lyta (hobbit fancier and not ashamed to say so...but also fancies the Elves of old, viz. Maedhros and Finrod and let's face it, Fëanor too! smilies/biggrin.gif )
Elennar Starfire
09-06-2003, 11:43 AM
I have a hard time deciding if someone is good looking unless I know someting about their personality. Personality really affects how I look at a person, much more then how "hot" they are. I can think that in one movie an actor looks great, and in another movie I don't want to look at them, because of the personality of the character that they play. To me the characters and the actors are separate people, but both real in a way.
I have confused myself a bit now, so I'll stop. Does this make any sense to you?
Queen of all Violas
09-06-2003, 02:12 PM
I think that he is the most liked person just because he has a really important part in the story. He kills many things and defends everyone. Who wouldn't like a guy that is both really cute and is cunning?
I know that i would
Evisse the Blue
09-06-2003, 04:45 PM
So non threatening guys are the hot item these days?
What happened to the guys your mother used to warn you about? Lost their appeal, have they? smilies/wink.gif
Luthien_ Tinuviel
09-06-2003, 05:31 PM
Now my point is, what girl wouldn't want a loyal, gentle, kind, non-threatening, non-argumentative, powerful man like that if he was available?
Well, that describes Sam pretty well, too. smilies/biggrin.gif
hobbit fancier and not ashamed to say so...but also fancies the Elves of old, viz. Maedhros and Finrod and let's face it, Fëanor too!
Right on, Lyta! smilies/biggrin.gif
To me the characters and the actors are separate people, but both real in a way.
It makes perfect sense, Elennar. I agree wiht you. So by rights the Orli fangirls and the Leggyboppers should be two different groups, but in my experience that is hardly the case.
So non threatening guys are the hot item these days?
What happened to the guys your mother used to warn you about? Lost their appeal, have they?
I believe it's a matter of taste, Evisse. Either that or else people alternate in either opinions or crushes. (Threatening, non-threatening. Threatening, non-threatening.) Who knows, really.
I personally know only a few Legolas fangirls, and I'm not sure that the one I know well is rabid, exactly, even though she did have a Leggy-shrine in her room. I don't really have anything against the fact that someone likes Legolas (there are fangirls for every guy in LOTR, I'm convinced), but if they're all out Nazgirls or Leggy boppers (isn't that really the same thing?), then it gets old fast. faster than fast, if you take my meaning. I myself prefer it when people have uncommon tastes in LOTR men (Meela, for instance, or people who like the more uncommonly-worshipped Boromir, Nob, Sam smilies/biggrin.gif , Beregond smilies/biggrin.gif , Halbarad or the like).
Daewen
09-06-2003, 06:06 PM
I think Orlando is very attractive as a brunette, but to be honest, I was never that much into the whole Legolas character. As wrong as it may sounds to all of you, it was actually my dad who liked him. We saw FOTR together, and he's like, 'Hey, Alysa, who was that elf guy? Man was he good with a bow! I mean he always had it ready. If one of those orc things came, he was just like, poom! And they were down...' and he was raving about Legolas all the way home.
I'm not a Leggybopper, but my daddy is...
Horse-Maiden of the Shire
09-06-2003, 09:12 PM
What happened to the guys your mother used to warn you about? Lost their appeal, have they?
Heck no! smilies/wink.gif
Well. I must say that movie Legolas is a gorgeous, gorgeous, GORGEOUS creature, but I agree about the stupid lines ("They run as if the very whips of their masters were behind them!" Suuure they do.) and whatnot, but I have to say: who would NOT want a gorgeous (gorgeous, gorgeous!), kindly, sensitive, and sophisticated guy WHO, on top of all that, can shoot a (in the words of another) mean arrow? I mean, that's the max factor. The elf is frigging perfect!!
~Horse-Maiden OTS, lover of all things hobbitish
Galenfea of Mirkwood.
09-08-2003, 03:47 PM
I personally have nothing against Orlando Bloom, apart from the fact that wherever I go, I just have to say that my favorite character is Legolas to get inundated with accusations of fancying Orlando Bloom!
Please tell me there are other true Legolas fans out there!
Linnamalle
09-08-2003, 10:28 PM
What happened to the guys your mother used to warn you about? Lost their appeal, have they?
Heck, yes.
Remember the old quote "There are guys you date and guys you marry?" The guys my mother used to warn me about, that I dated anyway, were by and large a waste of a perfectly good evening. In plain english: selfish arrogant bastards. The most profound pleasure obtained from the "relationships" (or lack thereof) with those "men" (or shadows thereof), was in dumping them, and good riddance.
On the other hand, tomorrow I celebrate 13 years of marriage to a magnificent man whose personality these days bears an ever-increasing resemblance to many of Legolas' more profound traits.
(Although his archery isn't as good, yet, nevertheless it's improving.)
But I digress from my point. Have the others lost their appeal? Uh-huh, as if they've sprouted mildew... or worse.
It goes without saying that Tolkien preferred virtue to vice.
Annalaliath
09-09-2003, 11:36 AM
I like orlando bloom as an actor. I was a Legolas fan long before the movies, but not a raving Leggy Lunatic. I am nutss already anyway. But I think that Orlando did a good job. That is it. I had t work with a Legols Orlando bloom fan and that was torture. ( actually I did most of the torture, teasing her and giving her elfvish words to figure out)
I saw his performence in Pirrets of the Caribian, and I liked it but I liked Johnny Depp better in that movie. ( I have liked Johnny Depp far longer anyway)
So am I a crazy Leggy person, I think not. Just an Depp fan.
The Only Real Estel
09-09-2003, 02:29 PM
a disgruntled Tolkienite, dismayed at his portrayal in Peter Jackson's films. Nope, I am not such a purist that I get angry at any portrayal srew-ups PJ may have committed on Legolas (did he committ any!?). & I also thought the shield sliding scene was cool. To those who think it's 'un-Tolkien-esque', remember, the movies have to be made to please a more modern audience. Remember Arwen being included (which isn't so bad after a while), & I think the stunt pales quite a bit compared to that. smilies/cool.gif
My cousin is a Legolas-O-Meter (or Leg-O-Meter...?). My dad was showing us all RotK pictures he had burned onto a disk, & nobody had to look at the screen to know Leggy was up there-- Shannon squealed (or something like it..) whenever Leggy was up there...
Elennar Starfire
09-09-2003, 08:30 PM
The Most Annoying Thing that has happened to me in a while is that when I say that my two favorite movies are LotR and PotC, I am accused of being an Orli-fangirl, but, seriously, I can't help it that he's in the two best movies I've seen recently. (All the rest are older, and I've seen them so many times that I'm just a little tired of them, like The Mask of Zorro or The Princess Bride.(Notice something? all these movies involve swordfighting) smilies/biggrin.gif )
Forest Walker
09-10-2003, 09:59 AM
This is gonna be long, cause i haven't read this thread in a few days.
half the girls roleplay as a female Elven warrior who also just so happens to be Legolas' long lost sister, cousin, or his girlfriend oh god, I would hate that! Fortunately, the role-plays I'm in aren't like that!
Maedhros and Finrod and let's face it, Fëanor too!
True, true. smilies/biggrin.gif
I have a hard time deciding if someone is good looking unless I know someting about their personality. Personality really affects how I look at a person, much more then how "hot" they are.
Yeah, same here (and I am a teenager)
The Most Annoying Thing that has happened to me in a while is that when I say that my two favorite movies are LotR and PotC, I am accused of being an Orli-fangirl, but, seriously, I can't help it that he's in the two best movies I've seen recently.
Same here. But i am always quick to corect any missconceptions. I have a pic of legolas in my locker with a big X through it and the words "Drool-Free Zone" underneath it.
The Only Real Estel
09-10-2003, 10:02 AM
Same here. But i am always quick to corect any missconceptions. I have a pic of legolas in my locker with a big X through it and the words "Drool-Free Zone" underneath it. Heh. Maybe you'll convert a few extremist legolas-lovers. Nothing wrong with liking him. Until you get way out of hand (like a ton of people have). smilies/rolleyes.gif
Elróthiel
09-10-2003, 01:27 PM
OK, I liked Legolas before the movies came out. He was my favorite character! Then the movies came out, and I liked him even more, because I could put a face to the character, and that face was cute!
Now, all over the place, I see people who hate the Elf, simply because of the preteens who can't keep their hormones under control. I find this insulting. Why should anyone hate a character or the actor who plays him simply because of a few million blithering idiots? I'll tell you why! It's because people don't want to be seen as one of those idiots. Reason: If they said that their favorite character was Legolas, then the person who was listening would automatically think, "This person is a rabid Legolas Fangirl"
The actual fact of the matter is: People can't seem to grasp the fact that you can be a Legolas fan without being a rabid fangirl. People's minds in this world are automatically set to "Stereotypical Mode" the moment they first learn how to talk.
This world is so damn corrupted! Why can't people just GET ALONG!?
What is everyone's damn PROBLEM!? Is it really that necessary to make someone's life a living hell just because of what she/he likes or believes in? Is it!? It seems to be in this world, and I want to see it changed!
Linnamalle, I agree with you completely!
And Evisse, I like threatening guys too! It simply depends on who I prefer more on that particular day. Non threatening guys are great, and threatening ones add thrill. That's why I'd love to see a sort of "fusion" between Legolas and Neo! (LOL!)
He would be both threatening and non threatening! There, is everyone happy now I've poured out my proverbial brain onto this site?
If anyone isn't, then reply, and tell me, and then I'll say exactly what I think.
Don't get me wrong. I'm usually very approachable, I'm just ****ed off today.
Namárie!
From
Elróthiel, the Elven Goddess of Hilariosity and Laughter Who Sees the Corruption of the World Today!
Meela
09-10-2003, 01:44 PM
*applauds Elrothiel*
The Only Real Estel
09-10-2003, 02:17 PM
I'm just ****ed off today. Heh. being ****ed off one day seems to cost many people their account (temporarily). Have fun should the bw see what he calls inappropriate language in your post. By the way, I am not opposed to legolas-lovers as he is one of my favorite characters. I'm opposed to drooling masses of girls that don't drool over the character, but rather the actor. Therefore, what I said doesn't apply to you, & what you said doesn't apply to me.
Evisse the Blue
09-10-2003, 02:33 PM
This world is so damn corrupted! Why can't people just GET ALONG!?
What is everyone's damn PROBLEM!? Is it really that necessary to make someone's life a living hell just because of what she/he likes or believes in? Is it!? It seems to be in this world, and I want to see it changed!
::Bursts into song:: 'Why can't we be friends, why can't we be friends?'::followed by a hobbit jig:: ::gets odd looks, settles down::
I like threatening guys too! It simply depends on who I prefer more on that particular day. Non threatening guys are great, and threatening ones add thrill.
My thoughts exactly! Finally spmeone who understands as opposed to muttering stuff like 'ya don't know what ya want; make up yer damn mind already' smilies/biggrin.gif
This thread looks like it's gonna live for a loong time - that is until the Barrow-wight loses patience and shuts it down smilies/wink.gif
Elróthiel
09-10-2003, 02:56 PM
Heh. being ****ed off one day seems to cost many people their account (temporarily). Have fun should the bw see what he calls inappropriate language in your post. By the way, I am not opposed to legolas-lovers as he is one of my favorite characters. I'm opposed to drooling masses of girls that don't drool over the character, but rather the actor. Therefore, what I said doesn't apply to you, & what you said doesn't apply to me.
OK, basically you misunderstood me. I was getting annoyed at the people who hate Legolas simply because of blithering idiots. I wasn't calling you a blithering idiot, and I didn't mean to offend you, but the way I read your reply it sounded as though you were annoyed at me. I'm sorry if I annoyed you. I was not directing my anger at you, nor any individual. I was directing my anger at the world, and blithering idiots.
posted September 10, 2003 04:33 PM
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This world is so damn corrupted! Why can't people just GET ALONG!?
What is everyone's damn PROBLEM!? Is it really that necessary to make someone's life a living hell just because of what she/he likes or believes in? Is it!? It seems to be in this world, and I want to see it changed!
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I like threatening guys too! It simply depends on who I prefer more on that particular day. Non threatening guys are great, and threatening ones add thrill.
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My thoughts exactly! Finally someone who understands as opposed to muttering stuff like 'ya don't know what ya want; make up yer damn mind already'
Thanks! smilies/smile.gif I get "annoyed" at people who can't see why eclectic people are eclectic.
Those people are shallow. If I don't know what I want, I guess I'll just have to have both! smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/cool.gif
*applauds Elrothiel*
Gee, thanks Meela! I like being applauded! I was trying to put across my view, and for some reason I just got a vision of myself saying all that in front of a huge crowd of people. Meh! Maybe that'll happen some day! Cool!
BTW I'm still "annoyed" at the world, I can just hide it easily. I just blew up there.
From
Elróthiel, the Insane Elven Goddess of Hilariosity and Laughter Who Sees the Corruption of the World Today!
The Only Real Estel
09-10-2003, 04:14 PM
What is everyone's damn PROBLEM!? Is it really that necessary to make someone's life a living hell just because of what she/he likes or believes in? Is it!? It seems to be in this world, and I want to see it changed!
Hardly something that should be discussed on a only 'all Tolkien all the time' forum such as this one.
I was not directing my anger at you, nor any individual.
I hardly thought you were.
OK, basically you misunderstood me. I was getting annoyed at the people who hate Legolas simply because of blithering idiots.
I understood that. Although I can't say I've ever come across someone like that (not even me).
but the way I read your reply it sounded as though you were annoyed at me.
That's because I was/am.
I can just hide it easily.
An excellent skill. No offense, but I suggest you exercise it a little more often.
Elrothiel: Don't get me wrong. I'm usually very approachable, it's just that you've kind've ****ed me off today.
Lord of Angmar
09-10-2003, 05:11 PM
This thread is in Middle Earth Mirth. It is not a place to list things and stereotypes that you hate, nor is it the place to toss verbal barbs at one another. Please keep the cursing and general rudeness to a minimum and make it a priority to write merry, possibly sarcastic (but not mean or offensive), intelligent and humorous on-topic posts.
[ September 10, 2003: Message edited by: Lord of Angmar ]
The Only Real Estel
09-10-2003, 05:47 PM
Fine by me. smilies/cool.gif
[ September 10, 2003: Message edited by: The Only Real Estel ]
Elennar Starfire
09-10-2003, 07:52 PM
Yeah, same here (and I am a teenager)
Me, too. But the only time I act like a fangirl is in theater class. (keyword:ACT)
Nice rant, Elrothiel! I certainly agree with you on the corruption of the world. I like to spend my spare time dreaming up plots against all those "blithering idiots"(good description by the way) Which involve bringing a boombox to scool and playing celtic music at top volume (seriously, some peope at my school bring boomboxes and listen to loud rap durnig lunch. SOOO annoying!)(not that I have anything against rap, it's the lyrics I find obnoxious. I have heard some rap which I really like, but the sad fact is that most rap swears excessively.)
My opinion on fangirl-squeals: If you squeal, you sound like a pig. Most undignified.
Oddwen
09-10-2003, 07:55 PM
Yes sir, Lord of Angmar sir!
Through the fields of day,
Though dark may cloud the way,
We shall brightly shine
Shine on, this light of mine.
(Erm, a Legolas poem, please O my Brain?)
Once, on a journey, travelling 'round
Our resident Elf heard a terrible sound
And turning, he beheld such a sight
A dark host, going swiftly, would catch him ere night!
So speeding his feet, he ran through the glen,
And turning, he tripped on a root, but then!
What happened to him I shudder to tell,
For upon him came creatures both awful and fell!
The fangirls! They shrieked as they pulled at his hair,
He howled "Please, I implore you, beware!"
But for the best of an hour they inspired him to fright,
And never did stop, though day turned to night.
But lo! What do I see over yonder?
'Tis a sight to behold, to think over, and ponder!
The fans from the 'Downs, with a chorus of "Hey!
"What the heck are you doing, you lamentable fey!"
With a shriek and a bellow, the fangirls took wing,
And Legolas, what a pitiful thing!
He stood up, and woe, he sure was a mess!
But he bowed with great grace and began to confess:
"I thank you, my friends, for coming to aid,
For through you my sanity has thus been saved.
I fear that I could not fight them, forsooth,
Besides being laidies, I cannot harm youth."
So thus we all saw our warrior stand tall,
And with a flash we saw it all!
He was no craven, but warrior bold
But in nobility, his heart was of gold!
Wow. Inspired. *blink* Well. Hmm. Nothing to say now.
[ September 10, 2003: Message edited by: Oddwen ]
Elennar Starfire
09-10-2003, 08:06 PM
OOOhhh...Excellent poem, Oddwen! I wish I could think up something like that! *Applauds loudly*
Oddwen
09-10-2003, 08:12 PM
Thank you, Ellenar!
Dedicated to Horse Maiden of the Shire:
A tisket, a tasket,
I think I'm going spaztic
The fangirls speak of One they love
I tell of death so tragic
Meela
09-11-2003, 04:36 AM
When I squeal, I sound more like a Nazgul than a pig. With a bit of very ill Frodo thrown in.
And I shamelessly admit to recently becoming hopelessly devoted to Orlando Bloom, and somewhat to Legolas also. Perhaps more Legolas than Orlando. But I do not squeal, my walls are covered in almost no Orlando pictures, I don't think about him that often, I humour and criticise him without any real bad feelings, and there are no sites of his on my favourites list, nor am I a member of his fan clubs, or listed on fanlists. I do not buy magazines just for articles on him, unless they are related to a film I particularly like (but I did think about how interesting it would be if they brought out a magazine devoted to him).
I am a sane Orlando interestee. Not a fan... just a mild follower because I like him, he's a good actor, and he gets roles in films that happen to interest me.
See? Normal fans do exist smilies/smile.gif
Kates Frodo Temp
09-11-2003, 01:50 PM
See? Normal fans do exist smilies/smile.gif
And I'm now one of them!!!
I was so truly, thouroughly, smilies/mad.gifHATED smilies/mad.gif what PJ did to Legolas, and I was so truly, thouroughly, smilies/mad.gif DISGUSTED smilies/mad.gif with the way girls (BUT NOT ME!) drooled over Bloom, that I ended up hating him (Bloom, not PJ).
Then I watched PotC, and everything's peachy! I got to see Orlando when he wasn't intruding, and realized what a PHENOMENAL actor he is. If I were that kind of girl, I might actually like him. The way it is, I love his acting.
Lovely story, is it not?
Meela
09-11-2003, 03:15 PM
What is so bad about drooling, exactly? I drool over Orlando. Quite a lot, in fact. He's young and good looking. Drooling over good looking men is great. Obviously the screaming and drooling to the world is a bit extreme, but I like drooling and will fight for it's continuation.
I'm full of total nonsense, aren't I? smilies/smile.gif
The Only Real Estel
09-11-2003, 03:24 PM
PHENOMENAL actor he is He is a pretty good actor, but:
*In LotR he was overshadowed by Viggo Mortenson, Sean Bean, & Ian McKellan (to name a few).
*In PotC he was way overshadowed by Johnny Depp.
So he's had some bad luck smilies/cool.gif .
The Only Real Estel
09-11-2003, 07:32 PM
What is so bad about drooling, exactly? Not only drooling. What I mean by exsesive is the 'rabid' fans. & I think you know what I mean my that. smilies/cool.gif
Lyta_Underhill
09-12-2003, 12:48 AM
Not only drooling. What I mean by exsesive is the 'rabid' fans. & I think you know what I mean my that.
Hmmm...so, Estel, perhaps this is a syndrome and should be treated as such! I have seen other sites that employ drool buckets fastened to the chin of the sufferer that help to keep the walkways and great halls from becoming great canals of drool for the unwary to slip upon! smilies/wink.gif Maybe there is a shot you can take for it? And I suppose those rabid Legolas fans who haven't read the books can't complain TOO much if someone plays a nasty trick and tells them that a great dinosaur suddenly rears up on the Paths of the Dead and swallows the Prince of Mirkwood whole! (pictures Terry Gilliam animation with Orlando's legs flailing from its great sharp-toothed mouth...)
And this has been...a bit of fun! smilies/biggrin.gif Now back to your regularly scheduled madness!
Cheers,
Lyta
[ September 12, 2003: Message edited by: Lyta_Underhill ]
Evisse the Blue
09-12-2003, 03:08 PM
The only problem with drooling is that it gets mighty boring very soon. I mean, no matter how much I like a guy, I get sick to death in no time of "oooh, he's so cute" and "omg, check out his gorgeous eyes!" I mean, there's only so much new ideas in a drooling session. It gets repetitive and therefore boring.
drool buckets fastened to the chin of the sufferer LOL - that's funny. Other sites employ a drool police that deletes posts that are too 'drooly.'
Well, it appears that despite my proud statement that I am totally disinterested in either Lego or Monsieur Bloom, I keep checking on this thread. Could I be infected too?? btw, I didn't se PotC but I plan on seeing Troy - then I'll give an opinion on his acting ability as well. in LOTR it is indeed hard to tell.
Forest Walker
09-13-2003, 01:01 PM
I want to see Troy too, but mainly because I have quite an obsession with ancient Myths. Besides, it's my heritage (my grandfather is Greek). But, my God, can you imgine the amount of drooling after that film! I hope he get's cast ion some un-romantic movie soon, so i can give a valid opinion of his acting.
Btw, did anyone else think that he kept acting in an elvish way in PotC? i dunno, sometimes he seemed like Legolas in disguise.
Meela
09-13-2003, 01:45 PM
Do you mean by his voice? He was very well spoken, like Legolas. But I didn't think of him as any bit elvish.
The Only Real Estel
09-13-2003, 05:16 PM
Hmmm...so, Estel, perhaps this is a syndrome and should be treated as such! I have seen other sites that employ drool buckets fastened to the chin of the sufferer that help to keep the walkways and great halls from becoming great canals of drool for the unwary to slip upon! Maybe there is a shot you can take for it? And I suppose those rabid Legolas fans who haven't read the books can't complain TOO much if someone plays a nasty trick and tells them that a great dinosaur suddenly rears up on the Paths of the Dead and swallows the Prince of Mirkwood whole!
Hmm, do I detect a hint of sarcasim? smilies/biggrin.gif Oh well. Hey, I don't mind spreading around that rumour if you'll help me smilies/wink.gif . smilies/cool.gif
Evisse the Blue
09-13-2003, 05:28 PM
I want to see Troy too, but mainly because I have quite an obsession with ancient Myths.
Same here! I've been waiting for such a movie to be made, since...well, since I first read the epic. However, it's going to be as nerveracking as with LOTR - it seems they're planning to make some changes to the myth I won't be happy with!
On the other hand, I'm really curious how Orlando will handle himself in this role - especially alongside Peter O'Toole (the guy's a legend!) and a few other extremely talented individuals.
To overshadow or to be overshadowed - that is the question... smilies/cool.gif
Lord of Angmar
09-13-2003, 05:53 PM
Stay on topic, Evisse. The LOTR Actors in Other Movies (http://http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t=000887&p=6) thread was shut down for being too unrelated to the works of Professor Tolkien and Peter Jackson.
I would like to shift gears on this topic now. It was not meant to be a discussion of Mr. Orlando Bloom's acting merits nor was it intended as a place to post complaints about Bloom fans. Try to write humorous poems, stories, articles or anything about the Prince of Mirkwood. Comparisons between Bloom Legolas and Book Legolas are fine but try to make them humorous and not digressive from the intent of the thread.
Meela's, Oddwen's and Ainaserkewen's posts (at least, most of them) are examples of good contributions to this thread. smilies/smile.gif Keep up the good work.
[ September 13, 2003: Message edited by: Lord of Angmar ]
Lady Alasse
09-13-2003, 06:49 PM
I like legolas in the book and the movie but I'm not a drooling fan of his. My favorite character is Frodo actually,
I just wanted to mention that I understand what the person (sorry can't find the post and your name) who said their dad was a Legolas fan. So is my Grandpa. He thinks Legolas is the coolest guy in the movie. I think thats kind of funny!!! Sorry I don't have a poem to include
Evisse the Blue
09-17-2003, 01:12 PM
Stay on topic, Evisse. The LOTR Actors in Other Movies thread was shut down for being too unrelated to the works of Professor Tolkien and Peter Jackson.
Soory. I don't know that thread, but it sounds like something I would have wanted to read smilies/tongue.gif
Okay, I don't have a story that I made but I want to provide a link to one of the most wonderful pieces of LOTR fanfic that graced the net. It portrays the character of Legolas beautifully - it is a 'missing scene' fic: when Gimli takes Legolas to see the Glittering Caves. It's very in character and really 'Tolkienesque':
Aglarond (http://www.henneth-annun.net/stories/chapter_view.cfm?STID=1394&SPOrdinal=1&pop=pop)
[ September 17, 2003: Message edited by: Evisse the Blue ]
Pirate Lailosse
09-17-2003, 03:04 PM
I think 'legolas' is alright but Orlando Bloom is a horrible actor. Get over it, girls out there, if a guy can't act, it's not much to go on here. smilies/rolleyes.gif
The Only Real Estel
09-17-2003, 03:08 PM
I think 'legolas' is alright but Orlando Bloom is a horrible actor. I do like Legolas (I'm male if you must know smilies/biggrin.gif), but I don't think Orlando does a horrible job of acting. Occasionaly his acting is a bit suspect, but he's better than some of seen/heard. Just give him time...he's still very early in his career.
Oddwen
09-17-2003, 07:36 PM
I don't know as he's a bad actor exactly, but I don't really care for his style.
There once was an actor named Orli
Whose career was progressing quite slowly
But he was cast as an elf
Thus projecting himself
To fame, fortune, and glory
Amarantha_Daisy
09-17-2003, 07:54 PM
Just give him time...he's still very early in his career.
Yeah... Go easy on him. I'd never be able to do half of what he's accomplished. I don't think he's that bad, either.
As for Legolas... My opinion? I love to tease him, especially the movie-Legolas, but I love him smilies/biggrin.gif He's a cool elf dude! Who can resist his cool-ness?! And I love his relationship with Gimli. The whole 'years of fighting comes to an end' thing... Yep. Just thought I'd put in my two cents. Or three...
Aduyuldaiel-MirkwoodPrincess
09-17-2003, 09:06 PM
WOW...ive been waiting for this for quite some time now...lol i see how people COULD get annoyed by girls talking about orlando and elijah or whoever...but its only annoying if your not in it. but if you ARE in it its alot of fun.
its kinda like...
...on the way back from basketball (and volleyball) games last year ALL the people did was play a game called big booty (some of yall might be familliar with it) ITS SO ANNOYING...but when your playing its got to be one of the funnest (yes, i believe funnest is a word) games ive ever played. but anyway...
that was kinda random. i bet your prolly wondering what the heck im on...but the only thing im on is...well..im not on anything i jus need sleep. but ANYWAY...yeah, i do like ORLANDO ALOT. and if it wasnt for Elijah i prolly wouldnt like lord of the rings or even know what it is. smilies/smile.gif so basicly...no elijah, no love with lord of the rings for me. but now i dont like elijah anymore. even since my mom said he looked like my cousin...that was kinda a turn off...lol NO KIDDING... smilies/rolleyes.gif ok, well...im gonna go and try and get some sleep...
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sleep tight smilies/evil.gif lol
Evisse the Blue
09-18-2003, 04:37 AM
And I'm the one being told to stay on topic smilies/rolleyes.gif smilies/rolleyes.gif
Pirate Lailosse
09-18-2003, 11:47 PM
I once had a story...a story of this.
I glanced on to a forest grave,
The grave glanced on to me.
On the grave I stood;
"Prince of Mirkwood"
I understood.
That poor dear elf, killed by
Unmercyfull words of folk,
Who once said-
"That elf is a joke!!"
I really do like that poor guy. He may not be the best as believable on screen but how would you like it if there are so many people out there, who know you as "That HOT blonde elf guy?" I wish people would know legolas as 'legolas' and not some pin-up boy in every girl's locker.
So heres looking at you, Legolas, Prince of Mirkwood! (I wanted to add this to my rather harsher statement a little earlier on the actor's...well acting.)null
Forest Walker
09-19-2003, 03:46 AM
I wish people would know legolas as 'legolas' and not some pin-up boy in every girl's locker.
That is true, it kinda sucks having legolas equated with orlando bloom. But then I guess that's the divide between ppl whi have read the books and people who have only seen the movie.
Sometimes I think it'd be cool if they had LotR as required reading in schools. But that might just out some ppl off it. smilies/confused.gif
(this is the last time i'll post off topic, I swear: Ugh, I bet they make Troy have a happy ending smilies/mad.gif )
[ September 19, 2003: Message edited by: Forest Walker ]
Evisse the Blue
09-19-2003, 05:03 AM
I liked your poem, Pirate Lailosse!
How about a sig that goes like: "Anytime you make undermining remarks about Legolas, an elf dies". or something along thiese lines...
Pirate Lailosse
09-19-2003, 11:16 AM
Evisse the Blue-Thank you and that would be funny to have that saying. Go Elven folk!
Elentári_O_Most_Mighty_1
09-19-2003, 12:06 PM
Ahh great poems! Unfortunately I'm no good at that kind of thing, so I won't even attempt it.
i like both orlando bloom and legolas. I dont really have a problem with leggyboppers because whenever i mention LOTR in my school all i get is blank stares or "I bet you like that hot elf guy, what's his name? Orlando Blue?" but oh well. 'Tis interesting, I don't have that problem at all. Perhaps because I go to a girls' school and almost everyone has seen the films.
If you don't mind my asking (I am male, so I can't really know the answer to this), why do the fangirls like him so much? I know each must have different reasons (or at least I hope so), but still, surely not every female can have the same taste, just like every male doesn't. I've always been curious to why he has such a massive following. I think the person who answered this hit the nail on the head. I was going to say that I have not the slightest clue, because I didn't exactly choose to like him. I just suddenly did smilies/biggrin.gif
Leggyboppers - Should all be cruelly punished using the slow torture methods I spend my spare time thinking up. Ahh the poor things...maybe they don't realise how annoying they are? I do, my friends tell me how annoying it is all the time. Therefore I refrain from talking about OB 24/7. Can I now be excused from this torture???
So by rights the Orli fangirls and the Leggyboppers should be two different groups, but in my experience that is hardly the case. In my experience there are three groups. The Orli group, the Leggyboppers group and the Both group. I'm kind of both, but more Orli. I have posters of Lord of the Rings all over my room, just one of Orli and...er...just...3 of Legolas *ducks flying tomatoes*
And hell, I liked the books first. Ok? My favourite character was Aragorn, because he was so noble. The next time it was Gandalf- it keeps changing. I did my book talk on Lord of the Rings- that was before I saw the films. Oh yeah, and I wrote an essay on it too for my coursework. I have read the Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales and Lost Tales 1 and 2. Therefore am I labelled as a rabid fangirl who knows nothing of the character etc??? What am I???
Oooh, as for required reasing...that'd be interesting...except it generally means everyone would have to analyse it to death. But we might get to watch the films 'to help us understand it' smilies/wink.gif Although I doubt the film of TTT would help much...
But it is on our booklist at school, not that it means anything.
[ September 19, 2003: Message edited by: Elentári_O_Most_Mighty_1 ]
Aduyuldaiel-MirkwoodPrincess
09-24-2003, 09:02 PM
actually FORESTWALKER...
...its "requested reading" for my school which is SUPER awesome...im sorry for not staying on topic...but i DO love orlando and i do think he is an amazing actor...he only adds to the greatness of the movie...
(now that i read my post again i think i should prolly delete it cuz it was allover the place...scary)
But i agree with whoever said it (SORRY I CANT FIND YOUR NAME smilies/frown.gif ) but orlando WAS overshadowed by johnny depp...and there were actors in LOTR that have had alot of amazing parts in other movies and that are also amazing actors. but cut the boy some slack...hes been in only a few good movies and he needs more experience...but still...i think he did a pretty good job in every movie ive seen him in. smilies/biggrin.gif
Oddwen
09-27-2003, 12:28 AM
Oohoo...apparently on the Pellenor fields, dear ol' Leggy climbs up on a Mumak with a knife...all heroic and stuff...you could tell people that he killed it to save Gimli, but was squooshed. Hee. That would be amusing. It's two a.m.. Can you tell?
I tried to climb a Mumak,
But I fear he knocked me off with a smack!
I tried to climb an Oliphaunt,
But I fear he tried to get me stomped!
So I gave up and climbed a tree,
And here I sit, until they leave!
[ September 27, 2003: Message edited by: Oddwen ]
Elentári_O_Most_Mighty_1
09-27-2003, 05:20 AM
Squished? hehehehe, I should try that. The pathetic people at my school shall die with the shock probably, for not having bothered to read it....muahahahaha!
Oops, I forget, I'm more rabid than they are, so it might not work...
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