Beating the non- LotR fans

[Lucinda]

I'm sure lots of people have problems with non Lord of the Rings fanatic friends. I have many who think they do me good by hiding the books, etc. Sometimes I could happily strangle them. What do you think is a fitting punishment for people dragging you away from LotR? And what would yuo say to them?

[ September 28, 2003: Message edited by: Lucinda ]

[Dancing_Hobbit]

mmm...beating the non-LotR fans, good fun. smilies/evil.gif for people who either refuse to read the books or don't like them, simply tie them to a chair and read the books to them out loud - prefferable with a buch of fanativ friends so each of you can be a different character and you can act it out. smilies/biggrin.gif

admittedly it's not very harsh, but I thought the punishment fit the crime. there's a song from the Mikado about that isn't there...

[Elentári_O_Most_Mighty_1]

Oh, is that the one about the 'short sharp shock' or something??

Hmm...I was thinking to transport them to Mordor or something...

[Arvedui III]

Herm, that would be good fun.

Personally, I don't have any problems with my friends who don't like LOTR. I just yell, "Begone foul Dwimmerlaik" or something whenever they start ragging on Tolkien or Peter Jackson.

But, I think it would be great fun tie movie fans who haven't read the books and aren't going to read the books to chairs and make them watch the old animated version while making of thier favorite characters

Ahh, the scream of a Mary Sue is the sweetest scream of all. smilies/evil.gif

[Elennar Starfire]

I'm generally nice to those who don't like LotR, as I pity them greatly. When my friends say that they're too stupid to understand it, I volunteer to read it to them, and explain anything they don't get. (In great detail, of course) And those who refuse this offer, I try to convert by talking about LotR constantly, hoping that I'll say something that interests them.

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

I sometimes have very amusing moments with my non-LotR fan friends when they try to be 'interested in' M-E and they ask silly questions like:" What was the name of the island where numenoreans came from?"...yep, struggle with that. smilies/biggrin.gif

Maybe a quote from LotR with a contemptuous look will do it.

[Elwen_starmaiden]

I usually try to tolerate them but my friends are ok with my obsession, although I tend to bump heads a lot with one because she's a Harry Potter Fanatic :P At least I have my dad to share some of my enthusiasm.

[Amarantha_Daisy]

I just yell, "Begone foul Dwimmerlaik" or something whenever they start ragging on Tolkien or Peter Jackson.

smilies/biggrin.gif Great idea! I usually do something of that sort, too. LotR related insults are fun, too. ...Orc-breath, Goblin-brains, ..."Go kiss an orc" and "Keep your forked tongue behind your teeth" are fun to say, too. The classy way to insult people smilies/wink.gif

My sister is pretty much the only person who insults me for being LotR-obsessive. But then again, what are sisters for? smilies/rolleyes.gif My friends also get annoyed if I talk about it too much, so I like to speak to them in Elvish just to bug them. smilies/tongue.gif The Elvish Insults (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=17&t=000036) thread is great fun...

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Hmmm...non-LotR friends. I have them by the dozens...my sister(Lhunardawen) seems to be the only LotR-fanatic I know. But what do I do to them? I pity them...
Pity them? By their are a rabble of mindless beings, who have never heard of the great history of Middle Earth?

But pity them we must...if there are no non-LotR fanatics in the world, who do we pity? Shelob fans?

(History of Middle-Earth Fanatics 1, p.30)

But in any case, I just shout "You FoolofaTook!" at them (see Tolkien Vocabulary II (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=17&t=000766)) It works at bewildering them. smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

[ September 29, 2003: Message edited by: Nilpaurion Felagund ]

[Pyroclastic]

A quote from Frodo sums it all up: Maby he does deserve death, but now that I see him, I do pity him. I get just hooted at for wearing my One Ring on my backpack. I've learned that the trick is to know what your going to say long before you encounter such Crebain from Dunland. Most of the time I just wind up making faces, because I can't think of anything to say.
'What would you know about it, troll-spawn?' has worked well for me. Any random quote, related or un-related also shuts them up, at least long enough to remember that when you fight for one of us, you fight for all of us! Forth Rohirrium!

[Nehani]

The biggest problem is when my friend says that Ents are trees! I glare at her and do one of two things:
1. Give her the full history of the Ents
2. Get my LotR friends and all together cover our ears and say the Gollum line "No..No..Not listening!"

I am the only one of my LotR friends that have read all the books. I am trying VERY hard to make them read at least ROTK before the movie comes out, but they say that would 'ruin the movie'. I mean, COME ON!!!! The movies are SOOOO much better after you read the books. But I really wouldn't call them much of book fans as they are total and absolute movie fans. Oh well!

[Niluial]

All you have to do is go on and on about all your knowledge of middle earth. Give them facts and show them how much you know… it will drive them crazy. But then again maybe don’t you might end up driving them away. Then maybe bring a friend of yours that knows a lot about middle earth and make sure one of your other none fanatic friends are there and quiz her or something it would be fun to make them embarrassed at how little they know…

~Nilly

[Daisy Brambleburr]

One time when I was on holiday with a friend she irritated me by saying 'the Lord of the Rings is so booooring!' So I irritated her back by talking about it non stop for about an hour. I told her such interesting stuff, like the ages of all the characters, and all about Balrog's wing (or lack of)but she stormed out and sat on the doorstep. Wonder why? It's her own fault, she thought that Shadowfax was actually black, and the Gimli died in TTT.
My mother doesn't like LotR either, and my brother and I were talking about hobbit feet and prosthetics, and then her and my other (more ignorant) brother start going on about hobbits wearing shoes, and me and my brother both whine in unison 'but hobbits don't wear shoes!'
But I'm the only true LotR obsessive out of all my family and friends. My brother's seen the films but is too lazy to read the books, and all my friends just like doing Smeagol impressions every now and again.
But if I'm in doubt I mutter 'lasto lalaith nin' (sorry, can't spell) and wander off sniggering.

[ October 02, 2003: Message edited by: Daisy Brambleburr ]

[Morgul Queen]

And if all else fails, simply grab the nearest hardcover copy of LotR, or the Silmarillion, and smack them over the head, HARD.

Teachers are fun to play with. Once, after finishing a SOS test, I spent the remaining half a page writing in Elvish (Quenya, to be exact) and then handed it in (It was mostly stuff from the 'Insults' topic, Auta miqula Orch, and the like). One week later I got said test back and my teacher asked what language it was in, and what did it say. I didn't answer the second one, of course. but the answer to the first was, obviously, Quenya.

My utterly clueless teacher then proceded to ask whether I was part Quenyan. *Snort* I fell off the chair.

[Elennar Starfire]

My utterly clueless teacher then proceded to ask whether I was part Quenyan. *Snort* I fell off the chair.

You should have said you were. smilies/biggrin.gif

Hey, your friends here at the 'downs outnumber all your non-LotR fan friends, unless you are extremely popular!

[Morgul Queen]

Hmmm, I discovered a new way of making the ignorants cringe.

You see, Recently I bought a wooden sword and have gotten into the habit of taking it to school with me.

Nothing makes the non-fans jump like when I run down the hall with my Movie-crazed friend, Kate, and my Wiccan friend, Ant, holding my sword and screaming at the top of my lungs "NIN O CHITHAEGLIR LASTO BETH DAER; RIMMO NIN BRUINEN DAn IN ULAER!!!!!"

Also, a good way of scaring the fangirls is to start going "OMG!!!! Gandalf is soooooo hott!!!" while they're raving about their marriage to OB smilies/biggrin.gif They run like Morgoth, Himself, is behind them smilies/evil.gif

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I've found a way to bewilder non-LotR fantic parents.(DISCLAIMER: Works only if you have a sibling obsessed enough to study an Elven tongue.)

You talk in non-stop Elvish. Quenya, Sindarin(my sister and I both prefer Quenya), whatever...just don't talk in a language they'll understand. But then when they bring up the subject of allowance...well, I've never figured out a way to counter such argument...

[Vladivos the Rider]

smilies/biggrin.gif Great ideas! I myself have (sort of) been doing a few since the non-LotR fans started annoying me...I fence, and find their opinion of LotR is greatly raised when I start absentmindedly practising moves (with the blade smilies/wink.gif) while they're standing next to me.
Unfortunately I don't know any elven(other than things like 'mellon')but I've found Ancient Greek sort of works. Little do they know that I'm probably coming out with something like 'the army is knocked into the river under the door.' smilies/smile.gif

[Ascaalphion]

I know just the guy. He is a great movie fan and loves the Star Wars movies. After watching LoTR he gave the comment that he has never before seen such crap, and that of course Star Wars was superior. I pointed out that Lucas has obviously taken Tolkien's Books as basis for his trilogy. Outraged he challenged me to a duell.
He came with his plastic light saber whereas I brought my Glamdring replica. Guess who's butchered his opponent. ;-)
Before anyone no calls for the police, I have just beaten him up no actually killed him.

[Pennthangeil]

Personaly i think that all non-lotr fans dont exist....well..i dont know any..or theyve all mysteryously dissapeared

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Personaly i think that all non-lotr fans dont exist....well..i dont know any..or theyve all mysteryously dissapeared


Oooooh..lucky you...No, really...what did you do to them? smilies/evil.gif

[THE Ka]

Oh, great fun! i just love this topic...

Ok, this is what i would do. i would tie them all to chairs and force them to hear me read the most boring chapter out of all three books ( and i think we all know which one that is), in a Chubaka voice.

if you need any more ideas just give a call... smilies/smile.gif smilies/evil.gif smilies/wink.gif

THE TALAMASCA
Investigators of the Paranormal
We watch
And we are always here.
London Amsterdam Rome
- Anne Rice, Queen of the Damned

[Pennthangeil]

I dunno...they just kinda...dissapeared.
*licks chops and howls*

[The_Hand]

The hardest thing I have to deal with is when I'm reading HOME at school. Today for example I was reading Lost Tales part two and a friend (she's read Lotr at least) ask what I'm reading. I find it very difficult to explain. If I say something like "The earliest writings of Tolkien" she goes "about what" and I have to explain the whole history of Middle-earth.

If someone askes a really stupid question I really try to be nice. We should all be nice to non-lotr fans! Maybe we'll convert them! And maybe they hate us because we sit around and discuss what horrible things to do to them??

Forget it! Let's just round them all up and make them listen to all 12 HOME books ! I'm sick of all the stupid questions!

[Elentári_O_Most_Mighty_1]

Also, a good way of scaring the fangirls is to start going "OMG!!!! Gandalf is soooooo hott!!!" while they're raving about their marriage to OB Ahh, now that is just mean. Very mean. Because it could be me you are tormenting there...except I wouldn't be running down the corridor...I'd probably stop to discuss the merits of Gandalf or something.... smilies/wink.gif

What I find hilarious is when people question me on LOTR trying to find out something I don't know...fools, the lot of them. smilies/evil.gif They try me on Orlando Bloom, but I know lots about him too. smilies/biggrin.gif And then they start on HP...and despite not being able to stand the films I get all those questions right too for some reason. I did a quiz in the Daily Telegraph once, and so did my bro- him being the HP fan. I got 100% (it was a very long quiz, btw), and he got 60 something %...that was so funny. smilies/evil.gif

EDIT: No intention to brag there, at all...I just realised how braggish it sounds...oops. I suppose my point is, that when you are in enemy territory, arm yourself with knowledge so they can't catch you out. Better a freak than a failure. smilies/frown.gif

[ October 13, 2003: Message edited by: Elentári_O_Most_Mighty_1 ]

[Vladivos the Rider]

Most excellent idea. smilies/wink.gif Luckily most of my friends like LotR...probably useful being the sudden urge I have to try out most of these ideas smilies/evil.gif
My mum hates it, though. I've found that talking for lengthy times about its finer detail normally results in her agreeing enthusiastically and suddenly finding that she needs to go to the garage for some urgent *fill in gap whatever you do in the garage*

[Daisy Brambleburr]

If any of you are British and have watched Big Brother, then you will know what I mean when I say my friend of the Lord of the Rings equivalent to Jade.

Just today she was going on about 'Shadowflax'. I decided not to correct her until she had been talking for a while. Then when she was looking at one of my maps she goes 'oh my god! I thought Rohan was a person!'

If anyone saw the Big Read last night, maybe we could beat the panelists! Did you hear that person , when discussing LotR, say, 'it's rubbish'? Hmmm...

[ October 19, 2003: Message edited by: Daisy Brambleburr ]

[Everdawn]

I really couldn't care less whether my friends dont like LOTR, thats their choice, and if they dont like it, they dont like it. Simple as that, but what we must remember is that they like something else, almost as much as we like LOTR so its pretty even...

[ October 21, 2003: Message edited by: Everdawn ]

[Pyroclastic]

I may have encounterd something worse than LOTR haters. My arch enemy is claiming to be a LOTR fan, but he's not really. He's just using it to get votes and try to win me over. He's using LOTR as a political tool! Isn't that evil? Saurman would be so proud of him...

[Elentári_O_Most_Mighty_1]

Daisy, I'm British! I couldn't be bothered to watch those endless Big Brother things...but I can see what you mean!!!
And the panelists thing...grrr...that woman dissing it hadn't even read it! She said 'life is too short', or something along those lines...interesting actually, they were trying to stop rigging, but I have voted at least 11 times...online that is.
Hmm...using LOTR as a political tool...that sounds interesting. Perhaps we could use it to our advantage? Turn the tables? No idea how, it was just an idea...
Hey, I wasn't necessarily objecting to people having their own interests, I was objecting to their intolerance of ours!!! They diss us for being obssessed, so we fight back. Unless any of you are pacifists...(and I meant verbally primarily, not literally physically...)

[ October 24, 2003: Message edited by: Elentári_O_Most_Mighty_1 ]

[ October 24, 2003: Message edited by: Elentári_O_Most_Mighty_1 ]

[Elentári_O_Most_Mighty_1]

How come so many good topics sink? Where have you all gone?????

[Lucinda]

I'm here! I havn't sunk! i was spending ten days with my internet-less grandmother though! Glad to know people think my topic is good! I am currently trying to persuade one of my LotR friends to aid me in tying a load of people to chairs and reading to them-But I cant find a rope quite long enough!!!! And my copy of the Silmarillion is bieng lugged everywhere....

[Elentári_O_Most_Mighty_1]

Hmm, some hithlain would be good. Always is longer than it seems...most mysterious.
Ahhh, it appears I am much too kind. If they tell me to shut up, I do. No point in killing them completely, it is much better to let them stew slowly in their pool of contempt. Muahahahaha. (Okay, I have no idea if that made any sense at all...it just sounded good smilies/evil.gif )
You know what I really hate? It is when so-called friends (well a certain person who I have been lumped with) withers you with a scornful look as soon as you open your mouth...then proceeds to obsess over her obsessions for the reast of the day. I mean, what right has she to do that?????? Huh???????

[yavanna II]

smilies/evil.gif Here are ten things to do with non-LotR fans:
10. Flush their HPs into the toilet
09. transport them to one of Morgoth's fortresses
08.Give em a good SMACK on the head with a hardbound Sil or anything
07. bombard the school with FRODO LIVES!! posters and HARRYPOTTER STINX!!!
06. Summon an Orc and let them be kissed by that orc
05.Insert Sils, LotR, or other tolkien works in their bags, lockers, and throats
04. tie them to a chair and let them watch the animated version
03. Scream the Elvish translation of "*****" at their backs
02. pay their teachers or proffesors to give them RECORDED LotR exams
01. Gather Saruman's orc army into their houses and let them do the rest
=im so smilies/evil.gif smilies/evil.gif smilies/evil.gif smilies/evil.gif =

[Vladivos the Rider]

I thought it was amusing that Ray Mears (the survival expert) is the person promoting LotR in The Big Read. I'm not quite sure why.
I've never seen Big Brother, but have heard about Jade, though I don't know how much of that was exagerrated.
What irritates me is how it's mostly fantasy books that I've seen discriminated against - of those stating that LotR is 'rubbish' there also seem to be a large number saying similar things about Philip Pullman and Terry Pratchett etc. Yet I have not read a single article against another genre in general, such as romance or crime....

[ October 28, 2003: Message edited by: Vladivos the Rider ]

[Elentári_O_Most_Mighty_1]

You know, the HP books are great. It's the films that stink. Awful accents, cringeworthy endings...

Yeah, that Big Read thing is SO ANNOYING!!!

Oooh, I was watching this cash in the attic program thing...yeah anyway...this copy of the Hobbit sold for £30. Can you believe that? It was a 13th edition!!!!!!!!

Maybe all us Aphadrim ought to wear badges, as a kind of united front all around the world. smilies/evil.gif smilies/evil.gif smilies/evil.gif

[Failivrin]

armbands, thats a good idea.

i think we need to leave them out all winter and bring them in when they agree to read LOTR

[Morgul Queen]

I'm getting a shirt with *Do the Wave for Boromir the Disco-King* written on it.

And I've got a necklace made of chainmaille from the movies...heh heh...being a Kiwi rocks smilies/evil.gif

[Elentári_O_Most_Mighty_1]

Ooh yes, we should all get t-shirts like that...freak people out the world over. And anyway, I thought it was 'Wave Kings at Boromir the Disco Squid'?
Yeah, well, we can't all be Kiwis... smilies/frown.gif

[Vuelve]

Well you know what I always say."If you can't beat 'em, convert 'em."And thats what I've been doing on my very lond and trying absence from the 'Downs.


This is my second official post since I got my internet back!!LONG LIVE THE 'DOWNS!!!!


Black, Green, and a Computer Screen,
Vuelve

[Lindril Arvilya]

I think we should reinstate stonings as punishment. However, we can replace the stones with hard-back copies of the Silmarillion and raw potatoes.

No, truly, there are only two types of people in this world: people who are Tolkien fans, and those who aren't Tolkien fans... yet. There's still hope. Have pity on the poor sods. They know not what they do. Or what they are missing.

[Finwe]

I think all LOTR-Haters should be tied down in a shallow pool, whose water goes up to just below their nostrils, and be nibbled by hordes of rabid minnows. That way, when they're laughing (the minnows will only tickle them) they'll get water up their nose, and half drown. I'm sure that they'll die of trying to restrain their laughter and keep water from going up their nose.
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I'm so eeevil!!! smilies/evil.gif smilies/evil.gif smilies/evil.gif smilies/evil.gif

[elfearz1]

on halloween no one knew what my costume was. I was an elf and I got asked if I was a character from Harry Potter or if I was Robin Hood. smilies/mad.gif what are people thinking?

[Firneldiel Of The Goldenwood]

I think people who don't know/understand LOTR should be tied up in a sack, or thrown into the river Isen, or maybe just given to me i would lecture them untill they knew most of it....

:: hehehe ::

[GreatWarg]

Perhaps the entire Downs community should try converting movie fangirls/boys into true Tolkien purists. Perhaps we can ask Sir Barrow-Wight to create armbands and headbands we can purchase? It would be a wonderful revenue for the Downs, and help us all spread the word!

I, for one, am just sick and tired of seeing uncanonically correct, horribly-written, and absolutely rotten fanfiction and posts clogging up the good ones. And some of them, when you write to them telling of some mistakes they may want to change, yell at you for 'sticking yourself in a cupboard with a flaming torch and books.' Yes, someone actually said that to me. It appears many of them THINK they know enough to write a good fanfiction (and maybe they do) but they certainly aren't putting it to good use!

[Everdawn]

Now im being hipocritical...

You couls always have them drawn and quartered, but id think you would have a hard itme finding a country which allows that...
..I just wont have any part in it. smilies/tongue.gif smilies/cool.gif smilies/tongue.gif

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I dunno...they just kinda...dissapeared.
*licks chops and howls*


Oooh...lucky you...

Maybe all us Aphadrim ought to wear badges, as a kind of united front all around the world...


...then we'll launch terrorist attacks, like burn an HP warehouse, write "Frodo lives" and "Wave kings at Boromir the Disco Squid" on every wall, lamp post, and window, and...I can't think of more.

I've been reading "The Cardinal of the Kremlin" by Tom Clancy...there's this part about breaking someone's mind...then I got this extremely evil idea: Read Silm, The Hobbit, LotR, and all HoME books to them...in Entish!

Later days! smilies/cool.gif
->Elenrod

[Rindoien, elf of Lothlorien]

Lock them in an empty room with loads of copies of Silm, The Hobbit and LOTR. They will be so bored that they will have to read them. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *coughs*

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Flash report: SPCHF(EFLF) {Society of prevention of cruelty to HP Fans(especially from LotR fans)} was demobilised by the terms of the Brest-Litovsk Treaty, signed March 3, 1918. Take that, glassboy!

smilies/rolleyes.gif smilies/rolleyes.gif smilies/rolleyes.gif

Anywhen, I've discovered a new sensory-deprivation technique: Throw the fools into the Void. There's enough space for them there...

Later days! smilies/cool.gif
->Elenrod

[Nimrothiel]

Non-LotR fans are not nearly as annoying or stupid as the evil Leggie-boppers. I'm sitting next to two of them right now; they're looking at photos of Legolas feeding a horse. Naturally, they're not even looking at the horse, and I have to hear them gush about how cute Legolas is. smilies/mad.gif smilies/mad.gif

[ November 20, 2003: Message edited by: Nimrothiel ]

[Ainaserkewen]

Totally in agreeance with you there. Nazgirls of the world unite! I love cute actors and all but if I ever go completely bonkers over one, you have my permission to hit me.

Speaking of hitting, that's how I deal with the non-believers who are too annoying for words.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Speaking of hitting, that's how I deal with the non-believers who are too annoying for words.


Brute force...tacky but effective...have to try that one out...

Later days! smilies/cool.gif
->Elenrod

[elfearz1]

oooh in my Brit Lit (British Literature) class we were studying about heros so my teacher played clips from movies with heros in them and we had to write down the characteristics of the heros. She played a clip from TTT. I heard these girls conversations and this is what they said:
"what is this?"
"Lotr! ugh, I hate that movie!"
:rolleyes: errrrrr I was so mad! :mad:

[Pyroclastic]

Ugg, and you had to sit near them elfearz1, how dreadfull! I knew a guy who lo and behold bothered to read the books, and then he complained about how "The whole return to the Shire bit was just kinda pointless." He waited untill he was across the room to say it though, so he was out of my immediate target range unfourtounately. But that's ok, he inspired a lovely poem about chumps. As long as morons are inspiring us to be better people they're good for something. Also, they make very nice step ladders.

Pyro

[elfearz1]

Ugg, and you had to sit near them elfearz1, how dreadfull!
Pyro
I know. *shakes head in disapointment at them*

so I was standing around at school and I had my binder with me. A girl and a friend comes up to me (they're in another one of my classes so it wasn't random or anything.) and this was our conversation:
her: what does your binder say?
me: "did you squeeze your hobbit today" (ok on a side note does anyone else ever get the urge to squeeze hobbits?)
her: What's a hobbit
me: *stare*
her: ?
me: from....Lord of the rings....
her: I've never seen it.
friend: neither have I
me: gah! you rent it, you go to her house and you must watch it together, tonight!

yeah I think they thought I was crazy.....

[Encaitare]

Have I ever gotten the urge to squeeze hobbits? But of course. ;)

Oddly enough, I have a similar picture on one of my binders with Gandalf and Frodo hugging that says "Have you hugged your Hobbit today?" :p

[Pyroclastic]

I bet you get a lot of gay jokes regarding that binder, don't you Encaitare? I personally believe that there are not enough hugs given in this world, at least not enough hugs given by people we like!
~Pyro~

[Gothbogg the Ripper]

Make them listen to an hours worth of Gary Barlowes "music", after that Lord of the Rings will seem like a Godsend! :D

[Elessar Telcontar]

We ought to ring their filthy little necks, preciousss...

[Encaitare]

I bet you get a lot of gay jokes regarding that binder, don't you Encaitare? I personally believe that there are not enough hugs given in this world, at least not enough hugs given by people we like!
~Pyro~

Well, it's not that large so people don't notice it amid all the other pictures unless they're really looking at them all. Not to start another slash/antislash debate, but I've also got another little one of Legolas and Boromir hugging and it says "Canon? What canon?" :smokin:

And hugs are excellent. They, and Hugo Weaving, make the world go 'round.

[Nimrodel_9]

I say we stone them, then tar and feather them! No, just kidding, I`m not that harsh. ;)

I usually insult them in elvish, and refuse to talk to them for a class period or so. I`m usually pretty good at hiding my books, movies, ect. when they come around. sigh... They just don`t understand me. :confused:

[Gothbogg the Ripper]

Tarring and feathering them does sound like a good idea but there's one problem: It's a waste of good feathers. :smokin:

[Mark]

:rolleyes: I hate people who don't like lotR. It's pretty sad they're not enlightened to our world of fantasy. A couple of my friends detest it, unfortunatly... I try to lead them towards the right path... but, they're pretty stubborn. :rolleyes:

[Encaitare]

I don't hate them, but rather I pity them. ;)

No, actually just I don't understand why they hate LotR... what's to hate?

[Gothbogg the Ripper]

The fact of the matter is this;There is nothing to hate about Lord of the Rings as it is the single most well written, mythical, harrowing story ever put on paper, it is utterly beyond me how anyone could dislike it and mock those who do.
Some people eh? :mad:

[Sapphire_Flame]

ok on a side note does anyone else ever get the urge to squeeze hobbits?

Yes. :D

I don't understand why they hate LotR... what's to hate?

Nothing. Absolutely nothing. It's an amazing story, with nary a plotting flaw or inconsistancy to be found. The characters are wonderful, and it presents moral lessons without being preachy or allegorical. It is captivating, well-written, and has one of the most involved histories and creations of any fictional location I have ever read.

I think it's a cause of frustration to them; they know that it is a mature, detailed, well-written piece of literature, and they also know that their mini-minds can't handle it. Ergo, they hate it (and us, incidentally) because of their inability to understand it. A rather immature way of dealing with things, actually.

Abedithon le,

~ Saphy ~

[Kransha]

I realize that this forum is entitled 'Mirth' and thus should remain mirthful, but I'd like to drop in a point, and then I'll state something more mirthfully relevant.

I believe that LotR is a wonderful thing. I have spent much time reading Tolkien's works, as many of you well know. But, I still feel that respect and admiration for those who ignore or even dislike it should not be denied. I have many people who have read the trilogy, and sometimes more Tolkien, and can still honestly say they dislike the work. I never reproach them for this, I simply ask them why they did not find Tolkien's beauty and majesty. Why was it lost on them. Some of them came up with rather unintelligent reasons ("It's for geeks," or "It's just fantasy,") but others had very intelligent ones. This is a pro-Tolkien site, obviously, and I am vastly pro-Tolkien, but I argue for these people. They have very valid reasons, relating to the language, style, and craft of the stories, the general genre, and various other matters. Assuming that those who dislike Tolkien are boorish ignoramuses reduces us to the level of said boorish ignoramuses, though not in fact or word. We're here to be open-minded, comrades. The only people who I, as an individual, cannot stand, are those who disavow Tolkien because of it's 'geek' aura...and voracious Legolas fangirls. That is my only pet peeve. Otherwise, I have not witheld anything from the non-LotR fans, except for the painful ones.

On a lighter note, if I were to do some obligatory beating of that latter, disliked lot, I would probably just have them listen to Tom Bombadil's poetry for 3.5 years. It's fine for 3-4 pages, but then it gets a bit monotonous, monogamous, and molassessous. That would at least bore them to extreme pain, possibly to the point of suicide, or otherwise.

[elronds_daughter]

good point, Kransha. I agree with you, mostly. However, I would still like to beat (and would if I knew any) non-LotR fans who say they love LotR but don't and then say something that utterly gives away their hypocricy.
Now, on to beating the hypocrites!
I would assemble all my LotR fanatic friends, and act out the books. Not the movies, the books. Tom Bombadil included. Complete with Nazgul screeches. That should drive them insane rather quickly. *evil grin* (we need a petition to reinstate the evil smiley. we need it!)

[Farmira]

i think we should beat the non-lotr fans with giant inflatable blow-up dolls of the cast... i think the sauron one would be the worst... ouuuch... :eek:

[One of the Nine]

good point, Kransha. *evil grin* (we need a petition to reinstate the evil smiley. we need it!)

I agree. It's just not the same without the delightfully devlish evil smile!

Anyway, on to the topic. I agree with Kransha to some degree. I do believe that non-fans have a right to like or not like something, but why do they hate it? That's my only question. And, I definately agree elrond's_daughter about the hypocrites. They should go down in a burning inferno of Lotr knock-offs and the books that make fun of the jovial yet sad book we are here about. Not really, but oh well. :rolleyes:

[Morgul Queen]

Ahh, the scream of a Mary Sue is the sweetest scream of all.

Hear, hear!!

Has anyone ever been asked what a silmaril is? I was reading the Silm in class and got asked wht the title meant, I told them and promtly got asked what a Silmaril was.

How on earth do you answer that?!

They ended up getting a crash-course in M-e history, poor people. :rolleyes:

I, for one, am just sick and tired of seeing uncanonically correct, horribly-written, and absolutely rotten fanfiction and posts clogging up the good ones. And some of them, when you write to them telling of some mistakes they may want to change, yell at you for 'sticking yourself in a cupboard with a flaming torch and books.' Yes, someone actually said that to me. It appears many of them THINK they know enough to write a good fanfiction (and maybe they do) but they certainly aren't putting it to good use!

Really? You got it so easy. We normally get variations of 'ur sooo mian!!!1!11 i cn do wat i laike!!11! so stp flmn me nd gt lst u mianie!!11!11!!!one!!11!eleventyone!!!'

Or, in the case of LQ "Start using the manors your parents taught you, grow up and start behave like abults!'

Spelling intentional. *sniggers* And, in the latter, quoted exactly. It's such a hoot, she claims to be 20+

[Vanwatholiel]

I would say follow them around the whole day and apply a quote to everything they do. Like when someone you don't like comes to talk to them, say, they have a cave troll!! That would most definetly trip them out. And it would be most fun. :D


Or just walk around reading the book to them. The vast majority of my friends think that I have a problem, and I need help. They just look at me and shake their head. It amuses me. I know mine was rather lame, but i just wanted to post SOMETHING!!! ;)

[Morgul Queen]

Morgul's take on RE, or, why Morgy and the RE teachers do not get along.

Scene: Religous Education Class

Teacher: Alright girls, get out your bibles and start reading.

Morgy: *pulls out 'Rings*

Everyone else: *pulls out bibles*

Teacher: Now, turn to page 372. Morgul, you start reading...

Morgy: "There were no sign of living moving things, save birds..."

Class: *looks at Morgy strangely*

Friends: *crack up*

[Sapphire_Flame]

Morgy, that is many different kinds of awesome. :D :D *must do that in her RE class*

Okay, here's one: find all the fangirls who write LotR fanfics. Ask them, under the pretense that you're actually interested, what site they have their stories posted on. Ask for their screen names. Go find their fics and report them to the PPC. We will take care of the rest. *Saph and Morgy don sunglasses*

Who ya gonna call? The Plot Protectors! :smokin:

Abedithon le,

~ Saphy ~

[Morgul Queen]

*rolls eyes* It's www.legolas.com, I've been trolling there for longer than I'd like to admit.

[About three months! ^.^]

Oh, be quiet, Darkling!

[Encaitare]

Morgy -- I checked out Legolas.com, and all I can say is.....

Wow.

And that's not a good wow.

I'm currently deciding if it would be against my moral values to register and join you in your trolling... what's your SN over there?

[Morgul Queen]

Morgul. ^_^

But I went in from GAFF and we also had a communal trolling account. The website's www.godawful.net/forums and the site is listed under 'Godawful Websites' as 'The Site Which Must Not Be Named'.

We tried to start a SIlm thread there and got various replies of 'Huh? Is dat teh new LotR movie?'

[Sapphire_Flame]

We tried to start a SIlm thread there and got various replies of 'Huh? Is dat teh new LotR movie?'

http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de//eek6.gif What, are you freakin' kidding me? *headdesk*

Spork 'em for me, eh Morgy?

Abedithon le,

~ Saphy ~

[Morgul Queen]

What, are you freakin' kidding me?

I'm not, sadly. That place was...bad. Then we had about 15+ GAFFers converge and we livened it up a bit.

But Fangirl trolling's so hard! I can never keep it up for long. I think it's the grammar and spelling that gets me the most, as well as the general "OMG!!!!1! isaw ob n tv 2dae n hes sooooooooooooooooo qt!!!!1!"

[THE Ka]

Heh. Dealing with these people isn't a problem for me. If you can say something nice, i will be the benevolent teacher and retain as much facts as i can for you. Usually these people come stalking me two weeks later with alot of lotr Merch. in hand, saying that "you're my muse!". one word: frighting :eek: . but, expectible.

For the others that are not so nice... i try reverse psychology to see actually how much they really know. Usually many of my lotr friends are there, waiting for their response. Most people fluster, then ask why they were wrong. Then i pull the old "read the book before movie" speech. Hopefully, they will. Once someone (who said the Tolkien was a drug-inflenced loser of a writer :eek: Ah! I know!) under my ploy finally admitted that they did read at least one of his books, and found it a wonderful read.

I've heard from other lotr fans or their reactions anyway, that liking harry potter or at least enjoying the series is "Baaaad"... i can't really see this, since most of my friends are devote Tolkien fans but, they enjoy J.K. Rowling's work. It's like (in my opinion) as if we have split into three different sub-species: 1. the one and only un-adulturated true fan (the puritans of the group) 2. the fans who also enjoy other works of fantasy (ex. Harry Potter series, Earthsea Series <- this series is pre-tolkien publication next to tolkien, my favortie) 3. the movie-Tolkien-textbook goers... the only conclusion that i have been able to come to why some fans of tolkien dislike HP is that they view it as if the author is trying to steal some of tolkien's "magic". i don't know this for sure though, i wouldn' t call myself one of this sub-species.

hope i haven't bore you all to death.

~Ka~

[Morgul Queen]

I dislike HP because I get the impression that JKR is being slightly condescending with the language she uses. I don't get that with Tolkien and Pratchett, but Rowling seems (to me) to have used a word, gone 'Oh, but that's too difficult" and used a word from the 'Oxford Picture Dictionary' instead.

Don't kill me, that's just my impression.

[Nimrodel_9]

I like HP, but I agree with you Morgy.

:mad: In English last week, I was reading FotR. My English teacher saw what I was reading and said, "I started reading that book, but found it really boring. So, I tried watching the movie. I fell asleep a little ways into it, and never watched the others." (This coming from the same teacher who dosen`t know how to spell buried, and dosen`t know the difference between thrown and throne, and desert and dessert. Many other things, but just to give you an idea.) I just sat there and glared at her.

[Morgul Queen]

*grins* Cue Tolkien quote here:

(not entirely sure if this is 100% correct, feel free to correct me if you want)

"Some people tell me that my books are boring or contempible and I have no cause to complain as I have similar views of their works."

I really have to congratulate you on your self control, I probably would have asked the teacher if he/she needed help with the big words rather than settling for glaring at them.

Actually....I've done that before...*blushes*...an far too impulsive for my own good.

[Elennar Starfire]

I'm still arguing with my geography teacher from last year over the correct pronunciation of 'celtic'. I know I'm right, and I've proved it several times, it's a hard K unless you speak of sports teams... :mad: A geography teacher should know better! *glares at stubborn geography teacher*

I argued with my math teacher too...he admitted I was right, but he had to teach it the way he was (A very impractical way. If the easy way to solve a certain type of problem always gives you the right answer, why bother learning the hard way first?) because the People In Charge decided so.

And my school librarians...they won't allow anyone to use the library computers unless they can explain how they need to for homework.

*'Leny realizes she's ranting* I'll stop now...

[THE Ka]

Wow, your teacher dosen't know how to pronounce 'Celtic' ? That's sad... :( Oh well, i had a horticulture teacher who on Halloween was tellnig the class the non-christian version of hallows eve, he said celtic with an 's'. It made me sooo mad! Somehow, i think it has to with the basketball team... everyone thinks that what they say goes... not the historians.

Your librarians sound like they don't have anything better to do. I used to use the excuse that it was for history and or sociology... and it worked! :D

[Sapphire_Flame]

I'm still arguing with my geography teacher from last year over the correct pronunciation of 'celtic'.

It's (K)celtic. You know, like (K)Celeborn and (K)celebrate! :D ;) Why do people not understand that?

"Some people tell me that my books are boring or contempible and I have no cause to complain as I have similar views of their works."

Muhuhaha! Great quote; thanks for posting it, Morgy. *mwah*

Abedithon le,

~ Saphy ~

[Morgul Queen]

You'd have to check it before you use it anywhere, though, I didn't have time to check it up when I used it.

[malkatoj]

How we beat one:

My science class was on a trip to do some work in the field, gathering samples and such. On the way back, two of my friends and I got into a car where my friend was playing the Fellowship on CD. We, of course, were thrilled about this. Then one kid got in who hates (really, not just dislikes) geeks and the Lord of the Rings. He sits in the back of the car, too stupid to ignore it and realize that we're not talking to him, complaining loudly the entire time.

Our solution to this problem, in case it happens again:
1: Memorize all the songs from the CDs 'A Night in Rivendell' and 'An Evening in Rivendell' by the Tolkein Ensemble. Engage ourselves in sing-a-longs the entire way.
2: Bring the Silmarillion on CD (or the book, and alternate reading out loud). Drive right past the school and say loudly 'Oops! I guess we have to drive to California now!' (We're from the East Coast.) Proceed to drive all the way across the country, pausing only to use the toilet. Drive back in the same manner. If the Silmarillion finishes, proceed to The Hobbit, then the Lord of the Rings. We figure this kid will either convert to geeky Tolkeinism or commit suicide, either way doing the world a favour.

[Holbytlass]

I have to ask myself which is harder, being an adult Tolkien fan or a teenage one. By the posts, I assume that the majority are young people (still in school). It must be hard being forced to be around classmates and even teachers who don't like Tolkien's work when they haven't tried to read the books. Or living with parents who don't understand and hope it's just a phase one is going through.
On the other hand, is it harder being a grown-up having to defend the position that, yes, it is fantasy genre, but it is not 'immature-baby stuff'? And if a teenager gets funny looks by saying something LotR-ish, wait till adulthood; when one is expected to be sooo mature and lay aside all things not realistic, and conform.
When FotR came out, a friend went and saw it (at that time we were both 28). she didn't really like it and said there was too much fighting. I suggested that she read the book. She snapped back that there were plenty of movies she liked that she didn't need to read the book. Fair enough, I thought, but how to explain to an unwilling listener that the book had so much more to offer? So I just said to her that if she felt that FotR had too much fighting, don't bother with the other two movies.
I ask this because I am 32, and only discovered the books 4 years ago. Oh, the wasted years!! Perhaps the best person to answer is one who liked it as a teenager but is now an adult.
**A bonus for the teenagers, you might get off easier when doing something criminalthan an adult would. So throw in an extra kick for me!!

P.S to The KA: I fall into the #2 category, love Tolkien and appreciate other works in the genre. And also, is your avatar a picture of you?

[Elentari_Elbereth]

Hmm. I know very few people who actually have read LotR or any other Tolkien book. I know wayy tooo many Legolas (movie) fangirls.
I get back at them by convincing them legolas dies in RotK (before it came out, that is)
They were either annoyed with me or saw me as a great master. One of them thought they spoke in pig latin in the films (what an outrage!) so I spoke of elvish and it's history and a little grammar in quenya and quoted off "Nin o chithaeglir..."

If someone says something insulting about LotR I usually insult them back in elvish or black speech...

I think the best way to get back at them is speak in great detail about history of Middle Earth, or the Silmarillion, or anything complicated to a poor outsider about LotR. like rambling off the many titles of Aragorn, who said them, why,.. etc.

Or read the Silmarillion outloud and explain everything. heh.

Recently I was asked what Ents were, so I went in detail about them and their history. it was great!

Sometimes I write my notes partially in Quenya, and when my friends want to borrow my notes.. heh heh.

[Gothbogg the Ripper]

So basically you exploit the ignorance of those around you in order to validate your point? How can your argument ever be debated seriously if the opposing party has no idea what in the name of Rafeal Trujillo you're talking about? Look, I think that now the films are done with and the media circus has left the building it is time to reevaluate this topic. The fairweather fans are gone, the hysteria has degenerated into silence, the boom period has ended, the depression has begun. Do people ever even get insulted for liking Lord of The Rings anymore? The answer in my case is "no". For many it was a phase and for some the attention lavished on the series was perfect justification for a backlash but now people just don't care. Live and let live folks. It's the wave of the future.

[The Squatter of Amon Rûdh]

The last post on this thread was nearly two years ago. I think that your point may already have been taken.