The Few, The Proud....The Gimli fans!

[Lanniae of the Axe]

Okay, admit it, Gimli's gotten a bad rep! In the movies, with such competition as Legless (woops!) Legolas, and Frodo played by Bloom and Wood (which I think are very good-looking, to say the least) no one gives Gimli a second thought. Except for the occasional teenie-bopper I meet that says Legolas is too good to hang with Gimli, which is not what I want to hear.

I also think people have got stuff against Dwarves in general! What's up with that?? smilies/mad.gif So they're not the best looking of the bunch, but geez who said anything about
beauty = cool?? smilies/rolleyes.gif

So, here is where you come to talk about the poor, wounded, underrated (yet totally kickin') Gimli son of Gloin! And/or all Dwarves in general!

(Sorry, I just got sick of all the ga-ga over Legolas. I want some deep, intellectual conversations with TRUE Tolkien fans that don't like LOTR just cause of Legolas.) smilies/tongue.gif

[Nufaciel]

I have nothing against Gimli. True, Legolas and Boromir are my faves, but it has nothing to do with their level of hotness, as hard as that may be to believe. I like Gimli. He makes me laugh, he's brave and valiant, he's loyal to the members of the fellowship, he cares about them, despite his gruff exterior. I've never though bad of Gimli, or most Dwarves.

[Tigerlily Gamgee]

I think Gimli is great. He can find beauty in things that others shun (such as the caves). Dwarves also have great architectural taste (I think).

[Starbreeze]

Yes, I have nothing against Dwarves, I think that all the races of Middle Earth are great. I like Gimli coz of what Nufaciel and Tigerliliy said, and coz out of the Fellowship he contributed a lot but was overlooked. I also admire his fear in the Paths of the Dead. Its is more courageous to show your fear and not be ashamed, than to hide it and be scared about what people think.

[Daniel Telcontar]

Although Gimli is not my favortie ME character, I think he is pretty cool.
And I think that dwarves generally are a cool race. They are really excellent smiths, and few weapons can be made better than those made by a dwarf. Also they are good at getting wealthy, which is a skill I would like to have!!!
They are not easily deceived by the enemy, like humans (and occasionally elves), and they have a great constitution and stamina.
All in all, dwarves are not that bad. smilies/smile.gif

[Cimmerian]

Agreed, that dwarves are excellent characters in fantasy as they are often described as fierce fighters and good craftsmen.

Buy why then does no one play a dwarf in RPG?
We could use some of the best axe-weilders there.

[Daniel Telcontar]

That is a good question, Cimmerian.
I guess nobody loves dwarves so much they want to be them.
I must admit, I would feel a bit irritated with being a dwarf, due to its small stature. And maybe I am not the only one thinking so?

[Lanniae of the Axe]

Hey, I'm a dwarf all the time in RPG!

My alter-ego/RPG character Lanniae of the Axe is a half-elf adopted by Dwarves...and happens to be Gimli's step-sister! Woo!

Yeah, thanks you guys for all your input, this is a great discussion!

--Lanniae

[onewhitetree]

Sorry, I just got sick of all the ga-ga over Legolas. I want some deep, intellectual conversations with TRUE Tolkien fans that don't like LOTR just cause of Legolas.

Asking why everyone seems to have such an antipathy for Gimli is a surefire way to get deep, intellectual conversations in my book. smilies/wink.gif

Gimli is portrayed quite a bit more uncivilized in the movie than he is in the book, and I'm sure his callousness of character has a lot to do with his lack of fan clubs.

[Cimmerian]

Lannae, we need dwarven warriors in the Freestyle RPGs rather misrably....
bring thy mighty war axe and hew away!

[piosenniel]

The Dwarves were one of the three Elder races - along with the race of Elves and the race of Men. They considered themselves to be the Children Of Aulë, the Smith of the Valar. He gave them their ancient name, 'Khazad.

Of these three original races, they were the one most appreciative of the gifts that Middle Earth had to offer them. The were extraordinary craftspeople, and enjoyed the treasure of ME both in the finding of them and in the working of them into beautiful objects.

They were loyal, steadfast,industrious, and fierce. Also they could be jealous and grasping with regards to their possessions. The sort of people you would desire as friends and hate to have as enemies!

& as for knocking back a pint in a pub, they would be grand fun!! smilies/wink.gif

[littlemanpoet]

Waddaya mean Gimli's "not that bad"!?! Sez you! Gimli's one of my favorites. One of favorite scenes in the WHOLE book is when Gimli asks for and receives three strands of Galadriel's hair. Here is a guy who has a rough exterior but a heart of gold and a tongue of silver to go with it. Reminds me of me, and I'm only half joking. smilies/biggrin.gif Probably why I like him so much.

[Raefindel]

Here's a treat for all you Gimli fans.Gimli art (http://fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/howe/legolasgimli.jpg)
and another (http://www.bamboozled.org/marvin/archive/tn_gimli_jpg.gif),

[ May 13, 2002: Message edited by: Raefindel ]
and yet another (http://home.mayn.de/gimli/gimli2.html) , and one last one

[ May 13, 2002: Message edited by: Raefindel ]
gimli again (http://www.delving.com/thumbs.html)

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[Road Dog22]

The Dwarves are my favorite of all the races and Gilmi is my favorite out of all the dwarves and all the other characters

[Child of the 7th Age]

I really hope the movie does more with the friendship between Legolas and Gimli. Otherwise, you lose so much of the character of both these great heroes.

sharon, the 7th age hobbit

[Lanniae of the Axe]

Okay, I have a lot of replys to individual peoples:

onewhitetree, I'll give 'em a Gimli fanclub!! John Rhys-Davies rocks too!

Cimmerian... you mean to tell me that there's RPG at the Downs?? *gaps* Sorry I'm totally new. Will send you a private message so I don't bore everyone else w/ my Downs illeterateness (sp?).

Piosenniel, thanks for all that nifty info (although being obsessed I already knew *most* of it!) Thanks!!

Littlemanpoet should be my new best friend! smilies/wink.gif

Raefindel, those pics RAWKED! the second one was totally kick-arse! Woo! Thanks!

RoadDog22 shoudl be my other new best friend LOL!

Sharon, last but not least, I SO totally agree. You 'n me, we'll go in in all our fury and send New Line Cinema heads rolling if they don't develop the Gimli/Legolas friendship more, 'k??? smilies/tongue.gif

Woo! later, guys! And again, thanks for making this a GREAT discussion!

[Gimli Son Of Gloin]

I saw my name and i wanted to see this. So all you people actually like me? Legolas has it all, looks, aim, pointy ears... All I have is a long beard and an axe, but give Leg. an axe and lock him in a room with 10 orcs, he's gone. Lock me in a room with 30 orcs I'm having roast orc for dinner an hour later. I always thought of myself of at least equal of Legolas. All the ladies are tripping to see Legolas, so all my fans out there (however few there may be), stick up for dwarves!

[Aosama, the Wandering Star]

I always admired Gimli's little speech with Elrond before the Fellowship sets out...
Elrond: ...yet no oath or bond is laid on you to go ruther than you will. For you donot yet know the strength of your hearts, and you cannot forsee what each may meet upon the road.
Gimli: Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.
Elrond: Maybe, but let him not vow to walk in the dark, who has not seen the nightfall.
Gimli: Yet sworn word may strengthen quaking heart.
Elrond: Or break it...
I always wondered about the rabid Legolas fans... Gimli has a lot of brain and heart behind the beard and the axe. He'll never let his friends down in a pinch, and is true to the end. Sure, he's proud, but that's what a Dwarf is like. He's not afraid of anything, least of all what others think. Go Gimli!
And Cimmerian, I would have been a Dwarf in the hobbit RPG, but I wanted to be a baddie... smilies/evil.gif

[Nimrodel]

I love the friendship between Legolas and Gimli. They have such fun and each get the other to do thing they wouldn't have otherwise, Like the visit to the caves or ride a horse.

[Frodo Baggins]

Legless!!!!! Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! that's funny. And of course we like you Gimli!! smilies/wink.gif Even though Dwarves can be stubborn and hard to get along with at times (e.g. Thorin Oakenshield). They have great taste, and a wonderful eye for beauty. My favourite moment concerning Gimli is his conversation between Galadriel and him. and when he wept aloud as leaving Lorien (I wanted to as well). I agree, I'm getting sick of all this Legolas (Legless) ga-ga.
All that is gold does not glitter

[VanimaEdhel]

I love Gimli! Dwarves are my favorite race! I just happened to like Legolas's character in the books (six years ago, mind you, so: I'm not a traitor or the Orlando Bloom type...although I now am a fan of him) more. I like Gimli and Legolas as a pair more than anything...I love the interactions between them.

So: although I'm almost 15, and allowed to be a teeny-bopper about Orlando Bloom, I have a deeper like for the characters of Legolas and Gimli!

[Lindolirian]

Gimli is really cool.... but, i'd hafta say that Dwalin is my fav dwarf.

By the way don't y'all think that we should have an axe pic up there yknow where i have the pic of the pipe by my name? We need an AXE!!!


yay for dwarves

[Gimli Son Of Gloin]

Thank you Lindolirian, there's an sword represting Aragorn, An arrow represting Legless, but no axe for Gimli Son Of Glóin. I've always thought of an axe up there and wished there could be.

[Vráin Redmallet]

An axe qould do good, but I'll use the sword for now because dwarves were good smiths. Gimli is one of my favorite characters as well. He is valiant, stout, proud, and can kick azzz... I would love to live among dwarves if I had a chance. I practically know the runes by heart. Vráain Redmallet is my Dwarven name. I love that name generator! That is the most entertaining thing I have found on the net. Seriously! smilies/smile.gif

[Vráin Redmallet]

By the way, where do y'all get all those smilies? I only have the basic ones... smilies/frown.gif

[Joy]

By the way, does anyone have their favorite Gimli quotes typed? I would love to do a website just for the Gimli fans. I would be willing to host it on my own server.

Maybe one day there will be www.gimlifans.com (http://www.gimlifans.com) I love his dialogue with Galadriel at the departure from Lothlórien. My mom wants me to type this and frame it with a picture of the two from the movie.

This suprised me, for my mom doesn't care for LotR. smilies/eek.gif

[Lanniae of the Axe]

Oh yeah! Hey, hey, I forgot we have an ACTUALY "Gimli son of Gloin"! Wasaap! Woo! And I like your idea about Legolas being useless with an axe. Like in the movie in Moria when he tossed those huge axes to Boromir and Aragorn, I was thinking "no way Legolas can even LIFT those!" he's a flippin ARCHER!

Anywho...You guys are right, they should have a little axe icon. The first time I posted I wanted one, but have decided to just use the little Tolkien symbol (I love that!). Shows the devotion to LOTR and Tolkien in general and not just one thing/race. Although Dwarves and Hobbits and Men and Elves rock, yo.

Aosama, you're right, that quote is the best, or pretty close. Good ol' Dwarven sayings. Yes! I have that whole speech thing typed up in pretty letters pasted on my wall. smilies/biggrin.gif Woo!

See, I have this idea that Gimli isn't JUST "some barbaric warrior-dwarf". He doesn't focus all his time on that. He knows a lot of Dwarven lore, and he is a VERY good miner and builder. Of course he CAN fight, and of course he LOVES it and is really GOOD at it, but there are more warrior-like Dwarves out there. Although he was more chivilrous than many of the Thorin and Co. Dwarves in the Hobbit (I thought). Like King Dain, no matter how old the guy is.

Legolas and Gimli's relationship is SO cool! They are jsut so funny and cute! "Forty-two, Master Legolas!" For some reason when I first read that I laughed so hard! And it's jsut funny to see thier reactions to things...how different they are.

Like, does anyone recall when the Three Hunters reach Fangorn, Legolas is like, (paraphrasing) "Cool!" and Gimli replies, "Well, you're an Elf, and Elves are freaks, so of course you would like that." And then when they see the Glittering Caves, Gimli is all, "Whoa! Pretty!" and Legolas answers, "Well, you're a Dwarf, and Dwarves are freaks about that sort of thing." I thought that was so cool!! (note my bad paraphrasing skills) smilies/tongue.gif

Yeah. Frodo, glad you liked me nick-name. I lvoe Legolas, don't get me wrong, but I thought it was funny, and it definately clears out all the teenie-boppers.

The actual DWARVEN runes are hard, I don't get them, but my Tolkien buddy at school and I have memorized the Anglo-Saxon runes that Tolkein based them on, and we write each other notes in them so if they get taken away by a teacher, they can't read 'em! Ha!

Joy, you have a cool mom! Dude, wish my mom would talk to me about LOTR. She thinks I'm a freak. (which I am!) smilies/wink.gif If gimlifans.com ever becomes reality, someone notify me! smilies/tongue.gif

Anyways, I'm off. Later!

--Lanniae the Axe

whoa, that message got long! woo...i need a life. smilies/rolleyes.gif smilies/tongue.gif

[Lanniae of the Axe]

My Dwarven name is Gimli! Woo! Apparently works for both sexes! I'm Gimli, guys! smilies/wink.gif My real name is Megan, so I don't know where that came from, but...

I'm GIMLI! smilies/biggrin.gif

[Lanniae of the Axe]

Okay, guys, i'm sorry, this will be my last post, but I have a question. How do you get those little picture thingys to pop up by your name? Not the icons, but the little pictures. I've tried, but it's not working. smilies/frown.gif I'm very computer illiterate!

--Lanniae

[Daniel Telcontar]

You need to find a picture on the internet. Then you right-click on it and select properties. There you copy the picture's URL-adress. Then you go to your profile, selcets change profile, and paste the URL-adress into the right box. Then your picture should work. smilies/biggrin.gif

[Lanniae of the Axe]

Okay...seeing if the pic works...

If it does, Daniel, I OWE YOU!! Lanniae the Axe at your service!

If not, well, thanks for trying to clear it up.

smilies/biggrin.gif

[Daniel Telcontar]

Lanniae, ol' buddy, you got yourself a picture. And a darn good one, if I may say so. I'm glad I could help, because I really had trouble myself with getting my picture to work.

[Lanniae of the Axe]

Daniel! It worked! Wooo!

Thank you thank you thank you! Lots of Gimli and Bory love goin' your way from Lanniae! smilies/tongue.gif

I have a pic! Yay! Woo! Yay! Go me! Actually: Go Daniel!

I am forever in your debt!

[Greycloak]

Cool links Raefindel.

Joy, your link didn't work; any possibility of another try? You got me curious now.

[Child of the 7th Age]

Hey,don't you think it's neat that Legolas and Gimli get to sail together to the West. Can you imagine the look on Galadriel's face (and Frodo's) as they greeted those two on the shore. And how sad Legolas must have been when Gimli decided it was time for him to go beyond the circles of the world.

[Lindolirian]

The actual DWARVEN runes are hard, I don't get them, but my Tolkien buddy at school and I have memorized the Anglo-Saxon runes that Tolkein based them on, and we write each other notes in them so if they get taken away by a teacher, they can't read 'em! Ha!



whoa with that quote... i might have to wonder if you're my friend from school and i'm urs!!! smilies/wink.gif My friend and i did the EXACT same thing in fifth grade and we still do!!! hahahaha

[Joy]

GreyCloak, the link that I gave is not an actual link yet, but a dream..... that will hopefully get on-line one day.

If anyone would like to help me, I'd appreciate it.

[Aosama, the Wandering Star]

I have another note...
Cassandra Claire (who is hilarious) has "Pervy Hobbit Fanciers" "Percy Men Fanciers" and "Pervy Elf Fanciers" but not "Pervy Dwarf Fanciers". It seems a little odd, but since it was based on the movie and Gimli was belittled there, I think I can understand..

[greyhavener]

I love caves. Every time I go into a cave I imagine how a dwarf would make it home. Gimli is a great character. I adored the dwarves in the Hobbit, too. When I first read it, I wanted to be Queen under the Mountain. My cousin named his kid Durin which I think is very cool.

[Saxony Tarn]

Hey Lanniae, when you get that Gimli Fan Club off the ground, send me an application. Why -- well, 'cause Dwarves are just plain cool, and they played Gim' in the movie far too much like i've always GMed my Dwarves (Legolas may be the prettiest, but I've got the spiffy helmet!) that being short Viking-motif-sporting butt-kickers!

(probably also 'cause Legolas is pouting back there in the number 3 spot (after being overborne & football-passed back there by Boromir in a surprise upset) and Gimli is likely having fun taunting the poor Elf from his newly claimed perch of #2. The vision of thumbs shoved in ears and stubby fingers wiggling on both sides of bushy beard with wagging tongue and 'nyaah-nyaah' is too hilarious to keep a deadpan expression, hoo hoo hah hah mua ha ha ha ha. i have a nasty feeling that that wily Elf is planning something -- you know how long they can nurse a grudge)

Forever heft those axes on high,

saxony

(BTB i swiped the Bor' pic. from your sidebar & to my delight it was big enough to wallpaper my desktop. Well, there goes MY productivity... s.t.)

[Raefindel]

Like, does anyone recall when the Three Hunters reach Fangorn, Legolas is like, (paraphrasing) "Cool!" and Gimli replies, "Well, you're an Elf, and Elves are freaks, so of course you would like that." And then when they see the Glittering Caves, Gimli is all, "Whoa! Pretty!" and Legolas answers, "Well, you're a Dwarf, and Dwarves are freaks about that sort of thing." I thought that was so cool!!

LOL, Yes Lanniae, I loved taht part too! And I loved your paraphrasing skills, that was a kick!

[Lanniae of the Axe]

Hey, thanx Raefindel, I just have these weird dreams all the tiem where LOTR characters will talk to me and say stuff like "groovy" or "cool" or "tight" and I jsut can't get them out of my head!!!

7th Age--I think the only reasons Gimli went over the sea are his love of both Legolas and Galadriel! So I doubt she'd be TOO surprised!! I jsut hope he set her hair in crystal like he said! Watch he sticks it on a ring and asks for her hand in marriage! HOW CUTE!

Lindolirian, hey, you learned the runes too?? Cool, huh? Only problem is I read LOTR AFTER 5th grade! smilies/frown.gif See there are two parts of my life. BT (Before Tolkien) and AR (After Rings)! But yeah, we actually did get a note taken away form us while writing in runes and the teacher was upset he couldn't read it so he tried to cover it up by getting all mad at us. Hah. Stupid teacher.

Joy! I've never made a website or anything before, but a tribute to my bro Gimli would be a cool place to start! if you're willing to help me take this on, my email is mailto:lanniaetheaxe@yahoo.comlanniaetheaxe@yahoo. com</A> so talk to me! Anyone else who wants to help us w/ some sort of Gimli fan website, same thing! Talke to me!

Aosama!!! The diaries!!! I'm normally against LOTR slash but those were jsut TOO FUNNY! Me and my sister scrawl "Still not King" and "Pointy Hat Trickster" all over our sidewalk in chalk and try to avoid telling out parents what they mean!!!! I was immediately angry that there was no Pervy Dwarf Fancying, and wanted one! Either that, or they should've jsut stuck with Hobbit Fancying, no?? I want one with something about the Horn of Gondor, since Boromir's 1st. (actually 2nd. Frodo is first. He jsut HAS to be. Then Boromir then Gimli then Aragorn and then Eowyn and...forget it.)

Palantir great. Better than cable.

OMG! Greyhavener!!! I was SO totally thinking the same thing!! About the name, I mean. Your cousin is VERY cool!!! Durin!!! Eeep! I realise that it's gonna be a while before I have kids, but Dain, Eowyn, Eomer, and maybe like Samwise and Merry (for a girl) will be top choices when the time comes!!
(I also love caves, too!! Ever been to Carlsbad Caverns?)

Saxony, if this gimlisonofgloin.com ever comes around YOU'LL KNOW ABOUT IT! I promise! Wanna help?? smilies/tongue.gif And you got Bory on your destop?? Cool! I got a TTT poster thing, and that lordoftherings.net screen saver too!! Way too much fun I have!

Anyways, wow, another reeeealy long post. ack. I'm gonna go hide in my cave--er, bedroom--and fondle some gems--er, jewelry. smilies/biggrin.gif

--Lanniae

[Lanniae of the Axe]

Just realised I put up my email for everyone to see. If anyone starts stalking me, I will get angry. Gimli will get angry, too, and he won't like decapitating his fans!

[Saxony Tarn]

Lanniae -- tell ya what, the cast from "Trust Me" (the fanfic i'm working on, over 90 pages now, and reasonably close to being done and soon to be posted here) will more than gladly fly over on their dragonhorse to protect you from anyone filling your e-mailbox with questionable spam. Including the Dynamic Orc-Busting Duo of Bean and Jones as Boromir and Skheel the half-Orc.

No, seriously -- you'll be hearing from me. Because Dwarves are cool, and i need some input on Náin Ralorsson, so i figure a Dwarven aficionado site is a motherlode.

s.t.

|_|) <-- inaugural drink!

BTW -- aren't the VSD a scream? Can't wait until she finishes Aragorn's final entry "It's good to be the King!"

[GreatWarg]

Hmmm... they do need an axe icon there. I always do the istari one though. Personally, Legless isn't my fav Elf. My fav seems quite out of the way, even if he is important in a way. That right, I'm thinking Elrond. Well, as you can say, Gimli is very cool, and can kick Orc butt! True, legolas probably wouldn't be expected to actually be able to lift an axe.

[Gimli Son Of Gloin]

I am going to read this thread very carefully and do a little character rating... Just hope you didn't insult me smilies/wink.gif

[Gimli Son Of Gloin]

I rated a couple of you. I am happy to announce that no one recieved a rating less than a 5 smilies/biggrin.gif

[GreatWarg]

You didn't rate my Gimli son of Gloin! smilies/frown.gif Ah well, o, and Legolas can also be used as Legal-Azz. Hehe, don't do anything to me Barrow-Wight! Gimli, rock on!

The most touching part of the books is most definitely the friendship between Legolas and Gimli. At first, they used to fight, but since Celeborn accidentaly 'insulted' Dwarves, then Legolas became friends. They'd better touch that int he movie. They kinda did, witht he boats and they're supposed to be riding the same horse in TTT (I know cuz i heard Orli broke a rib when he and Gimli both fell off of the horse and Gimli landed on top of him... HAHA LEGLESS!) but I doubt that they truly explain the intimate moments in their friendship.

[Lady_Báin]

ahhhhhh my people!!!! my dwarf name is báin smilies/biggrin.gif!!(can't remember if it's the first or last name) John Rhys-Davies was completely great in fotr (though the writers could have used a talking to). Does anyone know in which books i can find the most information about dwarf cuture?

On another note... last monday i was at a viking festival and it was sooooo cool I saw smithing (the balck-smith was short and stocky, was dare-i-say-it, Dwarf-like?), archery, combating and every craft you can think of. As well as sword-making but they were 600$ a piece smilies/eek.gif smilies/eek.gif It was so much fun!!

JOY- i don't know if i could help but if i can let me know!!

P.S. I own an axe!! smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/evil.gif smilies/biggrin.gif

[ June 20, 2002: Message edited by: Lady_Báin ]

[Feadolena Nolfare]

wheee! dwarves are cool :0) I think they really add depth to the whole Middle-Earth scene... can you imagine m-e withough dwarves? *dies*
I especially like that they are sons of Aule instead of Iluvatar, they just have the coolest history smilies/smile.gif
Another grossly overlooked group are the Druedain, who are perhaps my favouritest M-E people of all smilies/biggrin.gif
I would be glad to devote a sub-section of my site to a Dwarven Fanlisting, I already have an Elves of the Silmarillion fanlisting there. 'Twould be no problem, so if you email me at sphinxii@hotmail.com I can get it set up, given a few hours smilies/smile.gif I would create a separate account for the new fanlisting, but sadly my server is not accepting any more people. OH well, I have bandwith to spare smilies/wink.gif
Pleeeeze email me if you think there should be a dwarf fanlisting. I'll also look to see if there are existing ones.
Oh my, Fëa is feeling overly industrious today!! smilies/wink.gif

[Artilien]

I like dwarves very much. ang gimli is my favourite character in LotR. i like other races too but i think dwarves are the best

[polices]

I have always likede Gimli and I say that so shod anyone in there right minds. smilies/wink.gif smilies/tongue.gif

[GaladrieloftheOlden]

Sorry to break through the general wave of Gimli fans, and please don't murder me or rate me a one for this, but I really didn't like Gimli in TTT. In FotR I suppose he was alright, but I disliked the way PJ dumped him into a comic relief role. In the books I didn't give him much thought either, except for the part with Galadriel, and the one sentence when he went off to the West. smilies/smile.gif I see stalkers... smilies/eek.gif smilies/wink.gif

~Menelien

[polices]

smilies/evil.gif I don't mean anything bad by saying this, but I do speak for all of the Gimli fans out there... DEATH TO YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!DEATH TO YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! smilies/evil.gif

[Himaran]

Ah.... but we are not debating Gimli's role in the movies, but in the books. Yeah, PJ kinda messed him up a bit - but:

WHO CARES!!! smilies/eek.gif smilies/eek.gif smilies/eek.gif smilies/eek.gif

ROCK ON GIMLI!! GO DWARVES!!!!

Himaran

[polices]

I completely agree with you Himaran, I don't care if PJ messed up. I guess it can not be forgiving... DEATH TO PJ TO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! smilies/evil.gif smilies/evil.gif smilies/evil.gif smilies/evil.gif smilies/evil.gif smilies/evil.gif smilies/evil.gif smilies/evil.gif

[Meela]

Gimli is a god.

[Balin999]

As you can see by looking at my nickname I've always been a fan of the dwarfs, especially Balin and Gimli.
Until I saw the movie I was always thinking of Gimli as being tough, raw, but a really cool guy who doesn't whine around when he has split a fingernail and who is as loyal as you could wish for.
But then the movie came out, and I was very disappointed (as I have already complained about at the thread "Doing! And the "perfect idiot" award goes to...") in the movies forum.
I really didn't like the fact that they were making such a silly dumba** out of gimli just for the fun of the people who have not read the books.
So, the creators have created a picture of dwarves among the people who have seen the movies that simply isn't right.
Personally, I will always stick to the book and will think of the dwarves in a very positive way.

[ May 19, 2003: Message edited by: Balin999 ]

[One Axe to Rule them All]

Sorry i'm late for the party.
i decided to take a leave of absence for a week or two...

so now i'm back. now i've got a bit of controversey now, because in gimlisonofgloin's absence, i was very happily portraying gimli at the downies, though i wasn't there for long.
so now we ask, who is the true king under the mountain?

i'm sure popular opinion will vote for
Gimli son of gloin, but i like being gimli!

[GaladrieloftheOlden]

I don't mean anything bad by saying this, but I do speak for all of the Gimli fans out there... DEATH TO YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!DEATH TO YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well, as long as you don't mean anything bad by saying it... smilies/tongue.gif
Well, for his role in the movies, PJ can't help changing everybody's ideas. I mean, who knows, maybe out in the world somewhere there are one or two people who saw LotR exactly as PJ did. That would already make it almost worth the making. And Gimli in the books- well, I just never thought much about him except, as I said before, in Lorien and in the Lorien boats, and when he leaves for the Sea.

~Menelien

[Lanniae of the Axe]

Phew, have *I* been gone for a million ages of Middle-earth! So, what have I missed? Who's the new King Under the Mountain? Who's the new Dark Lord? What old fortresses have been rebuilt?

Haha... Just kidding. I've been off doing things for school, finals and such. Worked my butt off and became a Thespian, woo! yeah, so, though it's not a good one, I *do* have an excuse for now writing so long!

Anyways, so about that Gimli fansite, I think I might be able to produce one...but it's still in the works. you guys will be the first to know about it!

Sax- you changed your pic! I love it! Haha! I got one, too LOL!

GreatWarg- I always thought Elrond was everyone's favorite elf (well, barring the squealing teenage fangirls who think Legolas will marry them). He is mine, always has been. I seriously never even liked Elves, but Elrond is so different...maybe it's a half-elf thing. I dunno. He's just about the only elf (in the books, mind, not the movies) that isn't a racist pig! ...And actually, I meant the "Legless" comment to be -INTERRUPTION YOUNG PEOPLE SKIP THIS COMMENT- a kind of insult to his lack of *ahem* manliness. Ya know, the whole... third leg thing...and "Legless"... Yeah, so I'm perverted... :P

Gimli Son of Gloin- did you rate *me* for starting this whole affair?? *bats eyes* LOL just kidding!

Lady Bain- of course Davies is an awesome actor...for what they gave him to work with...OMG and if they make ROTK to be as LOUSY and DISAPOINTING as TTT was...well, I already considered throwing myself off a cliff--this time I'll catually do it! Who's with me!! Gimli as comic relief, indeed! *indignant snort* ...Ooh! And Bain, you own an axe? How cool! Can you send me a pic? I, sadly, am "not old enough" to own one, father says... *pout*

Feadolena- hm...Druedain? I know I'll kick myself when i find out, but could you tell me exactly who they are? And I definately think there should be a Dwarf fanlisting anywhere you can put one! I'll try to email you about it!

Polices- Um, well, hey, don't get *too* mad at Galadriel of the Olden! poor thing! She's entitled to her opinion, of course...not so much in some threads as in others, per se... LOL.

Galadriel- Although I can't personally imagine how anyone can't love Gimli, I do agree with you that Gimli sucked in TTT for the most part. Sure, they gave him more of a personality--one that was ALL WRONG! The sacreliege! The blasphemy! Ah, well. At least they'll probably go to Hell for it!

Himaran- thanks for breaking up the ...fight? during my absence! if I had been here it would have been...crazy. Lots of yelling. (thru a computer?) Yeah. Something. Anyway, kudos. Cuz I always feel bad when people disagree on threads that I start. smilies/frown.gif

And Polices, I must say I love your spirit. PJ every shows his bearded-hobbitted face anywhere within my axe's reach... How 'bout I hold, and you punch?

Balin999- thanks for starting a conversation I was gonna begin anyway... that PJ screwed up Gimli? Um.. Yeah, see above paragraph, you're invited to help out, too! I don't think that the people who havent' read LOTR shoudl be rewarded with all that comic releif like that. TTT is SUPPOSED to be depressing! And, if nothing else, Gimli shoudl NOT be the one to lighten it up!

Whoa, One Axe To Rule Them All, I dig your nickname! Woo! And since I know both of you equally, you're BOTH Kings Under the Mountain! Some sort of Biocracy? Hm...

Galadriel- anyone who saw the movie as PJ did has got to be sick in the head. Seriously. He did pretty okay, but...mm...no way is he THAT good. Arg. Anger! Not at you, dear, but at PJ. I hope he doesn't have any children...I hate making orphans.... Fingers axe* smilies/wink.gif

much love, sorry 'bout the long post, and thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread! Esp. Galadriel of the Olden, we need some variety of opinion, even if its a contradicting one!

--Lanniae of the Axe

[polices]

I would through myself of a cliff three times if PJ screws up in the ROTK as much as he did in TTT. smilies/mad.gif

[Leona]

I seriously always thought the elves were over-rated. I mean it's great and everything to have the history in there, but why does it all have to center around elves and men? Aren't dwarves important?

I've never been particularly fond of Gimili, or any of the dwarves for that matter, but I think if I could have more information on them I might enjoy reading about them more.

I totally agree with you guys about the fact that Gimli should not have been portrayed the way he was in TTT, but you really have to look at it from the point of view of a director. I know the book is supposed to be sad and serious, but someone who has not read the book, is not going to sit through three hours of saddness and dispare. PJ needed someone to lighten up the situation, and give it a liittle more apeal. Now that I'm thinking of it, especially for younger audiences. But what I wonder, is why couldn't Legolas have done that? I mean, Aragorn just wouldn't work, but why not Legolas? As far as I can tell his only job is to warn the fellowship of danger, and shot it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not all for out with the elves and in with teh dwarves, but I think it might have been nice if the spotlight could have been shared a little more equally.

[Leona]

Quick note: Ignore the picture, it was late.

[GaladrieloftheOlden]

Galadriel- Although I can't personally imagine how anyone can't love Gimli, I do agree with you that Gimli sucked in TTT for the most part. Sure, they gave him more of a personality--one that was ALL WRONG! The sacreliege! The blasphemy! Ah, well. At least they'll probably go to Hell for it!
Well, maybe if the role had been better, I would have liked him more... smilies/frown.gif By the way, I love the name of the thread. Funny smilies/biggrin.gif Galadriel- anyone who saw the movie as PJ did has got to be sick in the head. Seriously. He did pretty okay, but...mm...no way is he THAT good. Arg. Anger! Not at you, dear, but at PJ. I hope he doesn't have any children...I hate making orphans.... Fingers axe* Lol, yes, he has children smilies/tongue.gif I understand your homocidal impulses *nervously shoves a few bodies in the closet*, but really, his kids are really cute... they're some of the hobbit kids in FotR, and some of the Helm's Deep kids in TTT smilies/rolleyes.gif I seriously always thought the elves were over-rated. I mean it's great and everything to have the history in there, but why does it all have to center around elves and men? Aren't dwarves important? Of course. But the money part of it plays a big role too, and I doubt that there are many Gimli-boppers out there smilies/tongue.gif I love Elves, but not love like Lego-luv, or any of them at all. It's just the whole idea of that race that seems great to me, and I can't say I mind dwarves, I just don't like them much.

~Menelien

[Lanniae of the Axe]

I would through myself of a cliff three times if PJ screws up in the ROTK as much as he did in TTT.
I agree! I would do the same! ...After I made a few orphans...

I've never been particularly fond of Gimili, or any of the dwarves for that matter, but I think if I could have more information on them I might enjoy reading about them more.

Well, how much have you read, Leona dear? I mean, not to sound rude, I didn't mean it that way, but it's just you have to be LOOKING for stuff. In the case of the Dwarves, you have to be interested in them and THEN go looking for stuff about them. The word "dwarf" has to catch your eye. The Appendicies at the back of ROTK have some great info on the History of the Dwarves. Really cool. Dwarves were very noble and valiant, their quirks being a touchy pride and a tendancy towards greed, but, heck, our GIMLI never showed much of that! Woo! Of course, he is touchy, but who wouldn't be if people pulled your beard and made wise-cracks about your height!

...but you really have to look at it from the point of view of a director. I know the book is supposed to be sad and serious, but someone who has not read the book, is not going to sit through three hours of saddness and dispare.

It is PJ's obligation as a director to NOT screw it up! At least, it should be. If a director goes into a project like this TRYING to make money and not really caring about how it will make all the Tolkienites feel, he shouldn't be the one doing it, he's just lowering himself down with all the other Hollywood losers. If people don't want to/can't sit through three hours of *sadness and *despair, they SHOULDN'T BE CALLING THEMSELVES TOLKIEN FANS! Those people should try READING that much of sadness and despair! Most of 'em are just illeterate bastards who need a good book report and Harry Potter isn't old enough for them.

Guess what? I MADE my 6th-grade little sister read ALL of the books before I took her to see FOTR! Cruel? No! That's the way it should be! (I coudl have made her read Unfinished Tales as well, so she gets the Isildur background as well, but THAT probably would have been cruel)

At the very least, if PJ had been true to the books, you wouldn't have to many untrue Tolkien fans prowling the internet! (i.e. Lego-teenie-bopper-fans)

And Leona, I agree that the comic relief could have gone to someone else. Of course, if PJ KNEW anything, he would have taken the TRUE comic relief characters, Merry and Pippin, and put them in there more! Gimli, on the contrary, is VERY much a serious guy! And anyone who laughs at his slap-stick comedy is a fool. "Oh, narf, let's watch Gimli get flattened by the Wargs! Because that SOOO happened in the book. Narf." smilies/rolleyes.gif

Enough to make you sick.

Well, maybe if the role had been better, I would have liked him more...

Galadriel, just a quick question...what did you mean by that statement exactly? I'm not gonna hound you for it, and I promise I won't let Polices attack you too much, but please explain that a little more. Gimli's movie-character? Book-character?

Of course. But the money part of it plays a big role too, and I doubt that there are many Gimli-boppers out there

Hm... have you read through this whole thread? I mean, granted, there aren't millions of us out there, but, well...oh, I dunno. I have a theory, anyways, that TOLKIEN HIMSELF never liked the Dwarves. I know he loved his Elves. Personally, they make me sick a lot. *sigh*

That's why us Gimli Fans are both Proud...

...and Few. smilies/frown.gif

(That's okay, at least we're ROCKIN', right guys?) smilies/wink.gif

[One Axe to Rule them All]

Balin once said- There can only be one King Under The Mountain but i'll let it slip for now....

[Tinuviel of Denton]

Just to put in my two cents.

Not all the dwarves are all that cool. For example, Mim, in the Silmarillion. He stole treasure, killed people, and was all around not-very-nice. He got his just desserts later, however.

And just to put in a good word about Thorin. He's allowed to be stubborn and stuck up. He's royalty.

Oh, and about archery. Have any of you any idea how much strength it takes to draw a bow the size of the one Legolas uses? He's probably got a 150-200 pound pull at least, and it's not a compound bow so all the force comes from his arms. I like Gimli, but ease up on Legolas (NOT the Orlando version!!!!!), archery is not as easy as it looks.

Keep standing up for (most) Dwarves, people!

[ May 29, 2003: Message edited by: Tinuviel of Denton ]

[GaladrieloftheOlden]

And just to put in a good word about Thorin. He's allowed to be stubborn and stuck up. He's royalty. So? smilies/tongue.gif

~Menelien

[Tinuviel of Denton]

So, stuck-up-ness and stubbornness are the prerogative of royalty. They're all entitled to it. smilies/tongue.gif

[Lanniae of the Axe]

...I don't think Thorin is stubborn OR stuck-up. Well, okay, maybe a little bit. But I know some of the BEST Elves are more stuck-up and stubborn than many of the WORST Dwarves. Except for Elrond. Who's not racist, unlike all the other Elves...don't get me started about Bastard Lindir... *shudder*

But, hey! This isn't a place to talk about Elves, per se, this is Dwarf-thread! More specifically, Gimli-thread! *claps*

And on the topic of Mim...yeah, so he wasn't the best Dwarf in middle-earth. He combined the touchy pride and geediness of the average Dwarf with his own little touch of cowardice and over-the-top freaking out. Of course, you would freak out at someone, too, if they had KILLED YOUR SON. Mim, I'll say, would be my least favorite Dwarf. But he's a bitter old man with a dead son, give him a break! If some elf (or was he a man? I don't remember--someone help me out)...okay if some ARCHER shot my son, and then kept me from saivng his life, yeah, I'd be bitter and hate the world, too. Especially if all my kin had died prior to that. Now there are vagabonds wanting to take over my home. Wouldn't you be a little nasty, too? Obviously, the Silm. didn't catch Mim's best side. Then, of course, one of the more regal Dwarves probably would have died rather than give up his home, but you know, whatever. He's I guess you'd say one of the "lesser" races of Dwarves, like you got your High Elves and your...um, other Elves (Elves not beign my best subject).

Yeah, enough on the Mim rant.

I still love Gimli! He's still the best!

Oh, yeah, and about the bow-pulling thing? I'm not fully informed about the physics involved in that, and I know it takes a lot of strength to do that... but I still think it takes MUCH more strength to weild an axe. Have you ever gone camping and jsut chopped wood for an hour? You feel it in your shoulders. And your...whatever the muscles are that are in your...oh, never mind. smilies/tongue.gif Just LIFTING the dang thing takes skill. But bringing it down with warrior priscision... Plus, you got gravity against you lifting an axe. Anyway, that could be just my partial to barbaric weapons...the critical is SO much higher on an axe than on a bow (whups, nerdy RPG geek coming out). smilies/biggrin.gif

So, yeah, there's my opinion on that.

Baruk Kahazad!
--Lanniae the Axe

[GaladrieloftheOlden]

Believe me, both bow and axe are difficult. I only shoot out of a kiddie bow myself smilies/rolleyes.gif but I've tried just pulling a normal one and it was difficult... and I'm sure the elf ones were harder to. Axe- well, the swinging is easier than shooting into a mark, but it's slightly harder to get it swinging than to pull a bow, so I guess they're pretty much even. It more or less depends on which muscles are stronger...

Wow, I really didn't know there were this many Gimli fans around. smilies/eek.gif And, don't forget, there are plenty of us who really prefer Elves very well but not for any 'hotness' problems in the movies smilies/wink.gif

~Menelien

[Lanniae of the Axe]

Galadriel- one quick note and we call it a truce. Legolas could probably do 500 pull-ups, Gimli does 500 push-ups. Those are the muscles, more or less. I think. *shrugs* That's all.

Oh, and yes. Gimli fans are everywhere... We are the serial axe-murderers in your alley-ways. We are the hikers in your mountain ranges. We are the spelunkers under your mountains. We are the people who go see Imax films titled "CAVES". We are the jewelry store robbers. We are the biker dudes with forked beards. We are the people wearing shirts that say "Gold Digger", and mean it in different context. We are the people so busy *reading* LOTR we have no time to go to the BDs and...wait, crap. I screwed it up! smilies/wink.gif

Look out behind you! We're always there!

--Lanniae the Axe smilies/evil.gif

[Leona]

A note on that comic releif thing, actualy, when you go back to look at it, in my opinion at least, Legolas does a lot of the wises cracking. Example: "Do you want me to describe it for you, or would you like me to find you a box" (or something like that). I agree Gimli really shouldn't have done any of the joking at all, but don't you people get how difficult it is to direct a movie? You can't please everyone. Besides, I agree with GaladrienoftheOlden, at least in the sense that there is someone out there who liked the movies just the way they are. I'm not saying I'm one of them, but until you get together and do a LOTR film with live actors, I don't think you have much of a right to complain about the job PJ did.

[GaladrieloftheOlden]

Oh, this is going a bit of topic, but I believe we have every right to criticize him, as long as it's constructive criticism. If I just said "I don't like how PJ did Gimli" without giving any reasons, that would just be annoying. We can always keep criticizing, as long as we appreciate that PJ really put how he imagined it into the movie, and despite its shortcomings, it is still amazing. But this doesn't seem like a mayhem topic anymore, if this is what we're discussing...

~Menelien

[Lanniae of the Axe]

Leona- sure Legolas DOES some of the wise-cracking, but it's all directed AT Gimli. Like Lego is being some sort of cynical bastard and Gimli is some clumsy fool. That's not it at all.

And just because it would make it funny, I STILL dont' think PJ has the right to change it. Oh, I know he has the legal rights and all that... But, well, he says he's a Tolkien fan himself. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT. You guys are right, much of the movies are good. But then there is a lot that is wrong. I can deal with that. Just cuz I read the books before I was out of gradeschool, and many times after, I guess I'm a stickler about details. I guess I'm old-fashioned. I really think that things should be left the way they are--the original way. (i.e. I *ALWAYS* like the original versions of songs better than the re-makes, or punk covers, or whatever, just because--but that could be just me)

And, though I do not know how hard it really is to direct a movie, I still think that making it so different from the books just so other uncultured pigs (AKA the UnTolkienated AKA People who haven't read LOTR) could understand the complexity of such a marvelous work with thier teenie tiny brains, and so he could help spawn many worthless "fans" of LOTR who really jsut like Legolas and can't even spell John Ronald Reuel Tolkien right IS NO EXCUSE. *huffs and puffs about long speech*

That's basically why I started this thread. I know there's plenty of good Legolas-lovers out there! I know many, and love them to death! But I thought a Gimli-thread would at least be exempt of attracting people like those I mentioned above.

Also, Gimli's just a cool character and I love him! There's no one better than the G-man! Woohoo!

--Lanniae the Axe

PS: Sorry about my above heated rant. Perhaps I will go find an "Anti TTT movie" thread that is still hot... if any of you know of one, please idrect me to it, and we can keep this one on the subject of Gimli. He gets jealous quite easily, see, and hates sharing his threads... smilies/tongue.gif

[GaladrieloftheOlden]

Like Lego is being some sort of cynical bastard and Gimli is some clumsy fool. That's not it at all. You're right. Though I have an intense liking of cynical bastards, often acting like one myself smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/wink.gif Gimli was a clumsy fool in the movies, and now people who never read the books or only read them after the movies will have that mental image of him stuck there... it shouldn't be that way.

~Menelien

[Lanniae of the Axe]

You're right, Menelien. That's NOT how it should be. Then again, we don't want anyone who HASN'T read the books (heck, even some people who read the books AFTER they saw the movies) to even be joining our ranks as Tolkienites anyway, right?

And yes, I'll have to agree that I, too, am often a cynical bastard. Or just a mean one. One of the two... smilies/tongue.gif

and now people who never read the books or only read them after the movies will have that mental image of him stuck there

You're right! smilies/eek.gif It's all about the image! So even if you DO have people who HAVE read the books, if they read 'em AFTER seeing the movies, they can't POSSIBLY EVER be CONSIDERED Tolkienites because...well, they just can't! They have a warped perception to begin with! Ah! That's SCARY!

OMG! Must go tell ALL my friends to READ THE BOOKS FIRST. I mean, it wasn't like I never let them go about it before, but, well, I'm gonna be more insistant from now on.

Okay, crap, Gimli thread, Gimli thread. *repeat to self* Gimli thread, Gimli thread.

There is only one Gimli son of Gloin, and he does not share his threads!

--Lanniae

[polices]

OK, I'm all cooled down now I don't really have much to say and I am just returning this to the top. BYE! smilies/tongue.gif smilies/wink.gif smilies/biggrin.gif smilies/mad.gif smilies/eek.gif smilies/confused.gif smilies/rolleyes.gif

[Eowyn Skywalker]

Goody! I've found other Gimli fans...
Jeez, I can't believe that me and a friend are not the only people who write in dwarf runes... I've wrote over fifty pages, actually... we have a binder full of runes.
Gimli rocks! I can't believe that I'm not the only person out there who likes him... hey, I even can imitate him... and not to badly either...
Gimli rocks, and so do runes...
-Eowyn Skywalker

[Sirithheruwen]

Dwarves?! I love dwarves! They're so cool! And what do you mean nobody likes Gimli? Gimli's hot! He has a beard, and that makes him hot. Period. ;) Although, I have to admit, my favorite dwarf is Thorin Oakenshield, mostly for his kingly-ness and his stubborn-ness! ;)

So, next time you find yourself thinking that no one loves dwarves, just think of your little friend Siri, here on the 'Downs.

~*Siri*~

[Kransha]

Oh, huzzah! A Dwarf thread. Again, Huzzah! Hail and well met ye dwarf-lovers.

I am indeed a supporter of Gimli and all his relative dwarfishness. I come, but to point out an extremity which, I believe, has never been given to dwarven credit. An offhand remark in the movie, another addition to movie-Gimli's comic aura, was generally: Our beloved dwarf making a remark to Eowyn about Dwarven reproduction and lack of females. This may have been a strangely accurate point.

I put it to you, fellow dwarf-lovers, that during the making of the dwarves, there were 7 dwarves laid down in Arda's many subterranean empires, 13 dwarves overall. Explicitly, Illuvatar himself "commanded Aule to lay the fathers of the Dwarves severally in deep places, each with his mate, save Durin the eldest who had none." (Tolkein Letter #212). This means that there were 6 females, since there were seven males. So Durin had no mate. How exactly did the descendants of Durin become...well, the descendants of Durin?

Again, I put to you my theory. Perhaps, either the dwarves are even more learned in the magicks of the world than Olorin himself, making dwarves, or they have perfected the art of pulling dwarves from the ground like rabbits! Either way, we should all bow our unworthy heads to the incredible magic/genius/scientific knowledge accumulation/social skills of the mighty Durin and all dwarves.

[Morgul Queen]

...if you rule out the Nazgirls ("OMG!!!1! ORLI IS SOOOO HOTT!!!1!!11") and count those who actually like the story for the story, not Orlando, the Gimli fans outweigh the Legolas fans 12:1. At least at my college anyways...

J R-D's awesome though! He talked to us at the prem, and Hwin was putting on fake accents just to make him keep talking. He has such an amazing voice *sighs* Besides, OB looks like he's never seen food in his life! *holds up sign stating how to make a sandwich*

[Eriathiel]

By the way, before we get onto dwarves, I also think that Bloom and Wood are TOTALLY gorgeous! Anyway, about dwarves, me and my friend love Gimli! He is so funny and brave and is always ready to rush to the aid of his friends! Loved him in the movie and I love his character in the books. I do think that dwarves have been ignored because in LOTR there's only 1 dwarf (Gimli) whereas in the hobbit (which I read before LOTR) there are hundreds of 'em, which for me :cool: :cool: makes them more important in LOTR! Sorry this turned out longer than I expected! To sum up, Dwarves are COOL! :cool:

[Saraphim]

DWARVES ROCK! (no pun intended.) Gimli is so cool. He's my favorite character (after Faramir, but he's a totally different type of guy) and makes me smile every time I see him. He's just the coolest ever! JRD was a really good Gimli, and made his character real for me. He was one of the few who didn't ruin my mental image.

[Lindolirian]

Well folks, they've made a spiffy White Tree of Gondor. Now, who here (who doesn't have a job or AP tests to study for) will take up the challenge for an axe icon? The Dwarves must be represented! :rolleyes: Yeah, yeah... whateva.

[Eowyn Skywalker]

Hey, maybe I'll try to make an axe icon! Dwarves rule, and must be represented on the Barrow-downs with their own icon!

Besides, icons are fun to make.

I like the dwarves, and they need something to represent them here, though there are so few people who like the dwarven kind.

LONG LIVE GIMLI!

-Eowyn Skywalker

[Eowyn Skywalker]

Gimli rules, and I have made him an icon to rule them all... erk, I mean represent the dwarves.

What do you think?

http://img48.photobucket.com/albums/v146/Ennaani/Avatars/Axe_icon.jpg

One axe icon to rule them all...

-Eowyn Skywalker

[Tulkas the Mighty]

That is totally awesome! It's even more detailed than our new White Tree! Have you sent it to BW yet to get it as an official icon?

[Eowyn Skywalker]

No, I don't know who to send it to. Would you know, Tulkas?

I'm glad that you like it. And in the White Tree thread, two other people agreed that my icon was good, and that we needed a dwarven icon.

So, who would I send it to?

-Eowyn Skywalker

[Orophin]

It is true that dwarves are not present much in the lord of the rings. I think that this is because of the active roles that they had in the hobbit where you really didn't meet any elves. However dwarves are awsome, especailly Gimli. He is the solem dependable made of rock member of the fellowship. He is always there to chop some orc necks or make fun of elves. One little fact that I would like to point out is that he did beat Legolas in the orc killing contest at Helm's Deep. It was close but he won none the less. I do not like one race over another but I think that elves get the glory for the most part.

[Kitanna]

Gimli is the greatest! That's really all there is to it. In the books he's awesome, in the movies he's awesome. Yet with the coming of the movies he's been underplayed and seems like more of a sidekick then a dwarven warrior. But hey I love him all the same.
I keep telling my friends how I want Gimli as a doorguard in my house. So he can use his ax to cut down intruders. If only it were possible...

That being said, Gimli, brave and loyal. And he needs a much bigger fan base in my opinion.

[Spottedfyre]

I'm glad to have found more Gimli fans! I don't care what everyone else says; Dwarves are friggin smexy, especially Gimli. *sighs* When will people learn?

[Gollum the Great]

YES

Gimli ROCKS

[Laurinquë]

Yes, Gimli is pretty amazing. Personally think that he should have been a more prominent character in LotR. Might have been cool to see more things from his point of view.


Oh, and the axe is really cool Eowyn Skywalker.

[Groin Redbeard]

http://img48.photobucket.com/albums/v146/Ennaani/Avatars/Axe_icon.jpg This is amazing! I'm going to see if I can find an administer to make it an icon.

I'm not so much a Gimli fan as I am a dwarf fan in general. I lover their steadfast ways, the loyalty that they have for one another, and the deep sense of patriotism. Gimli is by far the greatest character in the Fellowship, and I was a bit disappointed by PJ's downsizing of his character in the movies to a more comical relief role, but he still comes across as a tough with a black & white view of right and wrong!:D

[Thinlómien]

I don't really think there's just a few of us. I mean, who could resist Gimli's good heart, pessimism and sense of humour? :D He's just awesome. In general, I'm not particularly attached to Dwarves, but Gimli (alongside Balin and Thorin) makes an exception. I'm wondering... if there was a poll, which one would be liked more, Gimli or Legolas? Because I couldn't decide between them - they're both lovely - and I think quite a lot of other people would have hard time making their choices as well...

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

Gimli totally kicks Legolas's erm.. butt! Yeah! Gimli is awesome! Dwarves are cool in general, but Gimli is cute says Laurinque!