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VanimaEdhel
11-09-2002, 05:05 PM
I noted that Legolas, Frodo and Boromir have fanclubs and we all know that Balrogs, Gandalf, Aragorn, Arwen, Gimli, Merry, Pippin, Sauron, Saruman, Dragons, and Sam are all loved, but what about the other characters?
I propose that this be the fanclub for the Huan, Emeldir, Bill the Pony, Vala, Eru, Melian, Thingol, Beren, Luthien, Nienor, Turin, Galadriel, Celeborn, Finwe (and descendants), Olwe (" "), Elwe (" "), Beor (" "), Hador (" "), Halmir (" "), and all the other underappreciated characters...
Raefindel
11-09-2002, 05:20 PM
Don't forget IORETH'S KINSWOMAN!
Diamond18
11-09-2002, 05:37 PM
Personnaly, I'm a big fan of Queen Beruthiel's cats. And who doesn't think that Fatty Bolger would have made a great addition to the Fellowship?
Maikadilwen
11-09-2002, 05:40 PM
Heheh! I hereby make a fanclub for Fëanor's sons. All of them. smilies/wink.gif smilies/biggrin.gif
And Fëanor, Eöl and Maeglin now that we're at it. smilies/biggrin.gif
Hmmm, I think I'll include Beleg and Gwindor as well....
[ November 09, 2002: Message edited by: Maikadilwen ]
Faye Took
11-09-2002, 06:13 PM
OOO and Beregond! He's cool!
Kalimac
11-09-2002, 11:49 PM
Rae, you beat me to it smilies/smile.gif. Anyone who could listen to everything Ioreth was saying and not beg her to be quiet deserved a medal.
Other characters...hmm..I'll say Elladan and Elrohir. Sons of Elrond, they have tons of adventures, risk their lives regularly pursuing and fighting Orcs, carry Arwen's = banner to Aragorn - wouldn't you say they probably have some pretty interesting tales to tell? But noooo - it's all about their father and their sister, isn't it smilies/smile.gif. I don't think they have more than 3 lines total in the book, which is pretty poor considering their history. (Of course Arwen only has about 3 lines in the trilogy as well, but then she's a lead in "The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen" which makes up for it).
So All Hail to the Elven-Twins. I just wish they'd gotten a chance to speak up more.
Arwen1858
11-10-2002, 02:28 AM
I thought about adding Glorfindel, but he's gained so much love and popularity after not being in the movie, I'm sure he has some fanclubs out there somewhere. I want to be in a fan club for Luthien Tinuviel. She's cool! But what about Haldir? And old Barliman could use a fan club too. smilies/smile.gif Oh, and I really like Elanor Gamgee!! She
definatly needs to be more appreciated!
Arwen
alkquareiel02
11-10-2002, 07:31 AM
There are so many different characters in his books I wouldn't be able to make my mind up about which one to join(fan club that is) Glorfindel is a sweetie and deserves a fan club me thinks! smilies/biggrin.gif
dragoneyes
11-10-2002, 07:31 AM
I've not noticed anything about Rosie Cotton/Gamgee, she waited quite a whil for Sam to come back, not that ehs knew he would. That deserves somthing.
Eomer of the Rohirrim
11-10-2002, 07:57 AM
I was going to say Beregond but now I know that there's another person out there who likes him too!
I would like to add Hirgon and Hama. Both were killed viciously. Very sad.
ColletteTook
11-10-2002, 12:21 PM
I would love to honor Rosie Cotton (or Gamgee later) and express my wishes to be her.
And I just noticed this has been said so...I praise also Idril Celebrindal, for she was a strong woman.
[ November 10, 2002: Message edited by: ColletteTook ]
Belin
11-10-2002, 12:32 PM
Am I the only one who's interested in Eilinel? She's no more than a vision, really, and yet we see so much about her marriage to Gorlim in only a few lines, and his wistfulness and his desperation and his torture are so painful and sad. In fact, I think I'll include him in there too.
They're yet another perfect, if tiny, illustration of the havoc that Sauron wrecks on hearth and home.
--Belin Ibaimendi
Susan Delgado
11-10-2002, 12:59 PM
I second that, Belin. It was a very sad story.
I'd also like to add Gelmir and Gwindor, who suffered so much.
Elenna
11-10-2002, 02:21 PM
I think Glorfindel is underappreciated.
BILL THE PONY!!!! I LOVE YOU!!!!!
VanimaEdhel
11-10-2002, 03:40 PM
Woo! People appreciate the unappreciated!
Arwen Imladris
11-10-2002, 06:18 PM
How about Amlach, Elenwe, Dior, Gorlim, Nerdanel, Ragnor, Damrod, Urthel...?
BTW, Sons of Feanor: Maedhros, Maglor, Celegorm, Caranthir, Curufin, Amrod, Amras. No offence but, how can we aprreciate them without even mentioning their names???
Arwen1858
11-11-2002, 12:39 AM
Oh, and we mustn't forget Asfoloth!!
Susan Delgado
11-11-2002, 02:23 AM
Is he Asfaloth's twin brother? smilies/smile.gif
Estelyn Telcontar
11-11-2002, 03:16 AM
I'm glad Raefindel mentioned the underappreciated kinswoman of Ioreth, but no one has mentioned Ioreth herself??? Without her, Aragorn would have had more problems getting accepted as king in Minas Tirith!
HerenIstarion
11-11-2002, 05:40 AM
Fredegar 'Fatty' Bolger for your humble servant
gollum*elf*pup
11-11-2002, 03:50 PM
BILL THE PONY!!!! I LOVE YOU!!!!!
Ditto!!! And don't forget all the other non-mentioned ponies!!! Fatty Lumpkin smilies/tongue.gif
Bêthberry
11-11-2002, 04:22 PM
Let us now praise Farmer and Mrs. Maggot, for their help when things got thick.
Bethberry
Mintyztwin
11-11-2002, 08:25 PM
Yay Bill!!! And the other horses! And we musn't forget the wild-men! Ghan-buri-Ghan!!! Or however you spell that! And yay Radagast! (If someone else already said one of his other names, I will feel REALLY stupid.) And hooray Gwaihir. (sp? once again!)
Morgul Queen
11-11-2002, 08:52 PM
...and Morwen and Rumil and Elbereth and Illuvutar and Radagast and The Blue Wizards and Thingol and Melian and Barahir and Morgoth and Khamul and The Witch King and Veanne and...(someone clocks Morgul over the head) Okay, okay *grumbles*...
Nevfeniel
11-11-2002, 09:26 PM
What about Goldberry? Or Celebrían? Or the Gaffer? Or Bergil? WHAT ABOUT THEM?!?
Morgul Queen
11-11-2002, 09:39 PM
and butterbur and paladin and diamond and Earendil and Dior and Turin...
Nevfeniel
11-11-2002, 10:22 PM
And Arod and Bard the Bowman and Déagol and Nob and the Widow Rumble and Daddy Twofoot and. . . and. . .
Arwen1858
11-11-2002, 11:51 PM
Is he Asfaloth's twin brother?
oops!! I spelled it wrong. Oh well, at least I have an excuse. I'm new to LOTR. smilies/smile.gif I can use that as an excuse for my misktakes. smilies/biggrin.gif
Arwen, Queen of Gondor
Kalimac
11-11-2002, 11:56 PM
Estelyn, I think the reason Ioreth gets left out is that she obviously appreciates herself to a high degree, which makes people less inclined to help her out smilies/smile.gif. She's still cool, though. smilies/biggrin.gif
dark_one
11-12-2002, 02:25 PM
Melkor *ducks as people throw things* Talk about underappreciated!!! If it weren't for him, there'd be no stories, but other than that he created fire, ice, mist, clouds, rain, snow, & the Misty Mountains.
Gayahithwen
11-12-2002, 02:57 PM
I don't think anyone has mentioned Gil-Galad or Maedhros yet. I always felt so sad for Maedhros, loosing his hand like that.. and Gil-Galad.. fighting for the freedom of Middle-Earth and then just die and get no appreciation at all. *hmpf!*
Heh. They're both in Silmarillion. For those of you who haven't read it - read it.
Mintyztwin
11-12-2002, 03:29 PM
Mai oie, Jean Claude, mai oie. (I'm sorry, I just slaughtered the language! smilies/frown.gif )
Yeah! I likes Maedros! I really do! He's sooo sad! I feel sooo sorry for him! And Nienna! If someone already mentioned her, I forgot! But I like her.
Lindril Arvilya
11-12-2002, 05:40 PM
Yes! Veggietales!
VanimaEdhel
11-12-2002, 06:18 PM
How about every random creature that they just see along the way? And how about all the Orcs and Uruk-Hai that get killed without us ever knowing their names? And Grima Wormtongue?
Mintyztwin
11-12-2002, 07:22 PM
Howzabout just everything?!! smilies/biggrin.gif
Startling conception! smilies/eek.gif smilies/wink.gif
Morgul Queen
11-12-2002, 11:21 PM
Hey, what about grishnak, or Elwing or Elros or gildor or lindir or FIGWIT........... smilies/evil.gif
Mintyztwin
11-13-2002, 08:31 AM
Who? What? *blush* I don't know who you are talking about! (Sorry!) Who is Figwit?
Eomer of the Rohirrim
11-13-2002, 09:18 AM
Jolly Cotton, dammit...
VanimaEdhel
11-13-2002, 05:23 PM
How about the other poor Elves of Mirkwood that get overlooked because every teenage girl is desperately trying to find a portal into Legolas's bedroom? I mean, like "Elf #4" that accompanied Legolas to Rivendell...
dark_one
11-17-2002, 10:26 AM
Yeah I think Maedhros deserves his own fan club! He was one of the most decent sons of Feanor!
The-Elf-Herself
11-17-2002, 11:25 AM
I've always liked Earwen, Rian, Huor, Hurin, Morwen, and Aredhel. I mean, without Earwen you have no Galadriel, Finrod Felagund, and Aegnor. Rian and Huor, the parents of Tuor; without them you have no Earendil, Elros, or Elrond. Morwen and Hurin were the parents of Turin Turambur and Nienor Niniel. Admittedly, that story had a really sad ending, but still. No Aredhel and you don't have Maeglin, one of the most interesting albeit pyschotic characters of the Silmarillion.
And yeah, let's have some respect for Ereinion Gil-galad, the last High King of the Noldor in Middle Earth! smilies/smile.gif
dragoneyes
11-17-2002, 11:53 AM
If your going to get into "if these people weren't here, then these others wouldn't be either" then it's probably easier just writing the whole of ME, they're probably all connected in some obtuse way. smilies/smile.gif
VanimaEdhel
11-17-2002, 04:43 PM
*coughGilraencough*
Morima
11-17-2002, 07:02 PM
I've not noticed anything about Rosie Cotton/Gamgee, she waited quite a whil for Sam to come back, not that ehs knew he would. That deserves somthing.
Yeah, dragoneyes, not to mention all of the children she eventually bore him! WHEW!!
Morgul Queen
11-17-2002, 09:05 PM
and lets not forget ted sandyman and lobelia and all the un-named *starts ticking things off on her fingers* elves,dwarves,hobbits,orcs,eagles(in the hobbit), men, pukel men, rangers, nazgul...
Vanya
11-18-2002, 07:20 AM
My vote is for Cirdan! The most overlooked elf for Three Ages... lord of the Falathrim in the First Age, where he took messages from Ulmo and protected a young Gil-Galad. He, along with G.G. and Elrond, led the elves against Sauron in the Second Age, even being present when Isildur cuts the Ring from Sauron's finger. In the Third Age he recieved the Istari and deemed their importance, was a member of the Wise (White Council) and kept the Havens open for elves journeying back West.
Cirdan rocks... smilies/tongue.gif
Marillanna Sarnie
11-18-2002, 05:50 PM
What about Tevildo, Prince of Cats? (Lost Tales II) He is only in the first manuscript of Beren and Luthien, and is never seen again. smilies/frown.gif
Cirdan rocks! And Bill the Pony. And Butterbur. And Sons of Elrond. And..... (hours pass)....
And dwarf #2 at the Council.
We must let the underappreciated know that they are appreciated!!
I want to give them all a hug. smilies/biggrin.gif
Morgul Queen
11-19-2002, 08:39 PM
what about The Orc of Cirith Ungol cause without him Sam would have never found Frodo!
AddictedtoRumil
11-20-2002, 02:31 PM
I think that all the extras in the film like the elves in the backround and such should be given credit because they were in the movie, they wore the costrumes, they woke up at a early hour and also Haldir was in the movie and he got like no credit! That is so wrong!
Maikadilwen
11-20-2002, 04:47 PM
11th orc from the right in the 5th row in Moria! smilies/smile.gif
Cúdae
11-24-2002, 08:08 PM
Hmm...let's see... CARANTHIR! C'mon, gotta love the guy! Despite the fact that he's called "the Dark" and he's not the nicest of Feanor's sons, he deserves some love! He just sends out this aura of charm! All right, so I'm a little strange.
How about Haleth? She's never mentioned even though she was one of the strongest characters Tolkien wrote. It takes courage to see your father and brother killed then reunite and lead your people through dangerous lands as well as refuse Caranthir's (very gentlemanly) offer of land and protection.
I worship Tom Bombadil and Bill the Pony. Love the pony, respect the Bombadil.
And alas poor Celeborn, he's whipped
Lynette
VanimaEdhel
11-26-2002, 06:01 PM
I say that the entire Second Age is underappreciated. We hear all about pre-First Age, when the Vala are nearly the only ones, then about the founding of the Elf civilization, and the coming of Men...then it nearly skips ahead to the Last Alliance and the Fellowship. Even in Unfinished Tales and Lost Tales I and II, it is all the First Age...I say bring on the Second Age!
Lilly Loamsdown
12-07-2002, 03:39 PM
Your not weird Cudae. Come on everyone admit it you all LOVE Caranthir.
Of course this comes from the girl who thinks orcs are cute.
Manardariel
12-10-2002, 02:45 PM
Hey! You forgot NINIEL!! And what about Turin? And the Vanyar are definitly underapriciated(sp?) I mean they don´t do anything, that deserves SOME credit, doesn´t it??
-Imrahil-
12-10-2002, 04:45 PM
2nd Age definately.
Durelin
12-10-2002, 06:56 PM
Tom Bombadil, Fatty Lumpkin, Old Man Willow, Glorfindel (kill Arwen! no one should replace him!), I'll be thinking of more!
bombur
12-11-2002, 08:43 AM
"Uglúk, Mauhúr! eeeeeee!!!! We LOOOOOVE you!!!
Azog, Bolg!!! You are great!!!! We love you!!! eeeeeeeeeee!
eeeeeeeee!!! Shagrat, Gorbag! You are wonderful!!!
eeeeeeeee!!!! Grisnákh! Grisnákh! Touch me! I worship you!!"
Orcs of middle earth fan club adjourns its annual meeting to a 45 minute episode of singing an orcish marching song.
"Hack, slay, beat,
fight, drink and eat
We are the uruk hai
whom none dares defy
Kill, rape, slash,
brawl and then smoke some hash!!
Uruk hai
Uruk hai
Uruk hai
hack, slay, beat
fight, drink and eat
We are the Uruk hai
Whom none dares defy
Kill, rape, slash..."
And so forth
****
End of the record of the proceedings
[ December 11, 2002: Message edited by: bombur ]
Eomer of the Rohirrim
12-11-2002, 10:19 AM
I will admit to laughing heartily at that Orc chant.
Caranthir wasn't nice. Maedhros and Maglor were sort of alright but still not that good.
Give it up for Mandos folks. That guy rocks!
Gorwingel
12-26-2002, 01:55 AM
Bill the Pony is the greatest!
Butterbur is also a good one, Rosie Cotton, I need to go back to the book and look up some others (I have only read the LOTR, so I do not know any of the other charaters from the other books smilies/rolleyes.gif )
Gorwingel
12-26-2002, 02:01 AM
Oh, How could I forget my favorite...
Nazgul Number 3 smilies/wink.gif
doug*platypus
12-26-2002, 06:38 AM
NO MORE BOMBURS !
And who doesn't think that Fatty Bolger would have made a great addition to the Fellowship?
ME ! The short jokes in TTT Movie were more than enough, if you want fat jokes read The Hobbit!
Anborn is classic, I really like him. It's not everyone who can manage to say "squirrel" five times in one paragraph!! Squirrel has got to be the funniest word ever! Squirrel squirrel squirrel! It sounds like a squirrel!
Tolkien created SO many characters!
Nianna Telmnar
12-26-2002, 08:05 AM
speaking of under appriciated elves. Gildor Inglorien and his wandering high elves. Now i haven't read the Silm yet, so I don't know if he has a bigger story. But in FOTR he helped the hobbits get out of the shire and gave a really good quote:
"Do not meddle in the affaires of wizards...etc"
Oh and lets not forget the one they keep screwing up;
"Don't you leave him Samwise Gamgee!"
(sigh, i think these quotes were him and his elves...could be wrong. apologize if i am)
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