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Fingolfin
06-30-2001, 05:22 PM
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Anyone notice how things such as military stratedgies( evolution of weaponry ) employed by those in Ea are inline with real stratedgies throught history. Case in point you knoe those defensive circles Aragorn, Imrahil, Eomer, Gandalf, etc took were actually standard practice. For example the Scotts under the direction of William Wallace employed that same tactic when they went up againt Edward Longshanks after their victory at Sterling Bridge.

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Gwindor
06-30-2001, 07:07 PM
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Re: Military stratedgy

that makes sense. Tolkien wasn't a military strategist, so he would borrow strategies from history to make the battles seem realistic.

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Sharkū
07-01-2001, 06:26 AM
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Re: Military stratedgy

Great topic idea!
I'll just post some as they come to my mind.

How the éored of Éomer defeats the Isengarders under Uglśk is the classical rider-charge and circumvention as old as Cannae and mainly the Gothic riders who were able to surprise the Romans often with this this manouevre.

The use of the Mūmakil of Harad on the Pelennor is at once both like the use of war elefants in history and like one use of tanks in WWII warfare, the armoured spearhead assault.

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Fingolfin
07-01-2001, 09:25 AM
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Re: Military stratedgy

Also the hobbit stradgy at bridgewine was not so dissilmiler for that at the battle of Crece



I know, I know it is kinda a stretch

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Sharkū
07-01-2001, 10:55 AM
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Re: Military stratedgy

Parachuting hobbits???
<img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

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Theodred21
07-01-2001, 12:49 PM
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Re: Military stratedgy

101st Hobbit Paratroopers at your service. <img src=cool.gif ALT="8)">

...he heard Theodred's great voice cry "To me, Eorlingas!"</p>

Telchar
07-01-2001, 11:20 PM
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Re: Military stratedgy

A small glimse of military stratedgy is seen inthe opening pages of &quot;The Disaster of the Gladden Fields&quot; - especially read note 16 :-)

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GandaIf The White
07-01-2001, 11:29 PM
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Re: Military stratedgy

Tolkien did come up with his own strategy sometimes. I have never heard of a man, dressed in all white, going out and killing people with his bare hands in a snow storm?

"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."</p>

Fingolfin
07-02-2001, 08:21 AM
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Re: Military stratedgy

Not the Battle of Crete the battle of Crece with all the archers...

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Gilthalion
07-02-2001, 11:29 AM
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Re: Military stratedgy

The Bridge of Khazadum is an example of strategy.

For that matter, the defensive works that are described throughout the story, and their locations, are matters of strategic importance.

Gandalf's grand strategy to distract the Eye of Sauron from Mount Doom, even by great sacrifice before the Black Gates, is a perfect example of tactical misdirection.

Using siege engines to hurl desecrated heads into Minas Tirith is a psychological strategy. Hurling fire is another military tactic. Besieging Minas Tirith itself, is a military strategy. Attacking the gates of the town with Grond is a standard sort of tactic.

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Taimar
07-05-2001, 07:31 AM
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Re: Military strategy

Michael Martinez wrote a Suite 101 article on this very subject. It was called something like &quot;The Captains Crazy of Middle-Earth&quot;. It is probably still on his site, I don`t remember the address offhand. The article was pretty good and may be worth a look for anyone interested in this particular topic.

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Mister Underhill
07-05-2001, 12:39 PM
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Re: Military strategy

Ach!!!! A <u>true</u> ghost on the Downs!

Good to see you slip off your Ring, T, if only for a moment. <img src=wink.gif ALT=";)">

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Taimar
07-06-2001, 07:23 AM
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Re: Military strategy

<img src=smile.gif ALT=":)"> I`ve not been gone that long, surely.

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red
07-06-2001, 07:02 PM
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Re: Military strategy

You've been gone long enough to be missed! <img src=smile.gif ALT=":)">

-réd

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