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NightKnight 03-18-2004 12:36 PM

Nope.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 03-19-2004 07:41 AM

Taur im Duinath

The constellation is Taurus, and by removing a superpower (U.S.) from it we get Taur. Instant Message abbreviated gives us I.M.; the shortened river is [An]duin and the m-less subject is [M]ath, the final answer being a forest.

NightKnight 03-19-2004 08:54 AM

Perfect, Mr. Squatter. Your turn. :)

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 03-19-2004 10:32 AM

Let's see how you get on with this one:

Flower involved in rite

Nilpaurion Felagund 03-24-2004 12:31 AM

A stab in the dark...
 
Ummm...simbelmynë?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 03-25-2004 07:38 AM

I'm going to be difficult with this one and demand the full solution. As it happens, Simbelmynë is a long way from the right answer anyway.

Clue: double meanings are pivotal to the solution.

Turambar 03-26-2004 02:02 PM

Thinking out loud . . .

"Flower" could mean the name of a flower (rose, iris, daisy, to name some short ones), or the name of a river (Aros, Celos, etc., again starting with shorter names).

As a cryptic clue, "involved in" might mean that one word is inside another, as where "Soldier involved in familar area" becomes "LOGICAL" ("GI" in "local").

"Rite" - can't think of any short synonyms or examples.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 03-30-2004 07:14 AM

Well said. Do you have an answer to my question?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 04-06-2004 06:27 AM

Any takers? It's easier than it looks.

Turambar 04-06-2004 02:59 PM

I'm sure I'll kick myself when the answer is guessed, but I don't see it.

Is there a "straight clue" in there ? :confused:

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 04-06-2004 03:36 PM

In a way the entire clue is straight. Then again, in another sense the clue is entirely cryptic. At its heart there is a double meaning and yes, you will kick yourself.

Finwe 04-06-2004 06:32 PM

Let's see... Nenuial?

(Flower) --> (One who flows) --> Nin, nen

involved in --> is a part of/ along with

(Rite) --> Ritual --> uial

That gives you Nenuial.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 04-07-2004 08:59 AM

You're going in the right direction, but that's not the answer. There are no anagrams in this clue, and one need know only English to get the answer.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 05-11-2004 11:03 AM

Surely someone must have worked this one out by now.

Since I'm stalling the game at the moment I'll post the solution if nobody gets it by the end of the week.

Son of Númenor 05-11-2004 01:32 PM

Squatter, your cryptic clue has had me staring at my computer screen for many hours these past few days, & I have had naught to show for it but dry eyes & a headache. I hope I, or, at least someone, will be able to do you the service of solving it before the week's end.

-Númenor

The Saucepan Man 05-11-2004 07:07 PM

I'll have a go ...
 
Is it Celebrant?

A celebrant might be said to be someone involved in a celebration or rite, and it is also a flower (ie something that flows) in Middle-earth.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 05-14-2004 08:04 AM

Gaudeamus igitur: we have a winner.

Nice one, Saucepan.

The Saucepan Man 05-15-2004 07:27 PM

Cheers Squatter. :)

Next up:

Grave beauty seen in pointless comforting words.

The Saucepan Man 05-21-2004 06:52 PM

Yet again, great silent empty vistas open up ...

... anyone?

Fingolfin II 05-21-2004 08:51 PM

Is it Arwen? She was very beautiful and when Aragorn died, he comforted her with words? It's a feeble guess.......but you never know.

The Saucepan Man 05-24-2004 08:32 AM

Nope
 
That's not it, I'm afraid. You're thinking too literally. For a refresher on the types of elements which might make up a cryptic clue, have a look at my post #7 on the first page of this thread. That might help ...

Morsul the Dark 05-31-2004 07:54 AM

ok heresa gues
 
im gonna say gandalf here's why
G is the first letter of the clue
G is the first letter in Gandalf
Denetor basicly thought all his words were pointless "Pointless comforting words"
Denetor...or Theoden...called him Stormcrow...which is a sad name..sad has a synonym.."Grave"
Faramir still admiired him "Beauty"

I dont suppose im right?

The Saucepan Man 05-31-2004 06:56 PM

Good effort Morsul, but unfortunately your supposition is correct. It's not the right answer.

OK, time for a hint. To find the answer, you need to think of some comforting words and make them pointless. :p ;)

Morsul the Dark 05-31-2004 07:47 PM

well i dont get the hint really but heres my second guess
using ur hint i came up with this (its over=pointless its over but so much was lost)......so

Aragorn?
he brings comfort with an army...
from the GRAVE.....
which is beautiful because it helps end the siege of Minas Tirith.....
r hint is annoying me lol it makes little sense to me

The Saucepan Man 05-31-2004 08:13 PM

Nope, I'm afraid not.

The hint will make more sense if you look at the guidelines on cryptic clues on the first page. "Pointless" should not be taken in its literal sense.

By the way, Morsul, since this site is devoted to the works of one who was a master of his language (and many others besides), we prefer not to use "chatspeak" here, so it's best to avoid using it. :)

Morsul the Dark 05-31-2004 08:18 PM

im sorry ill try not to use chat speech....just so used to it...grr...i give up on that one

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 06-02-2004 01:01 PM

By removing North from never mind, we get Evermind; a grave beauty.

The Saucepan Man 06-02-2004 05:52 PM

At last ...
 
Quite so, Squatter. Pray proceed. :)

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 06-03-2004 07:15 AM

So without further ado...
 
Two greetings heard from barrier.

Morsul the Dark 06-06-2004 08:16 PM

is it Isengard?

two (two hobbits)
barrier (fortress)
two greetings heard- wogh=tree eard+b=treebeard

merry and pippin welcomed the others
Treebeard took Isengard Down
and Isendgard was a fortress which is in close relation to the word barrier

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 06-07-2004 04:56 AM

Sorry
 
The real answer's much simpler than that.

The Saucepan Man 06-07-2004 05:55 PM

OK, I'll have a go ...
 
Not sure about this one, but "Hi" and "Hey" are two greetings. Put together, they sound like (are heard as) "High Hay", the hedge around the eastern border of Buckland.

So I'll say High Hay.

Any good?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 06-08-2004 04:29 AM

Perfect
 
Which is just good enough to make you the next up. :smokin:

The Saucepan Man 06-10-2004 04:12 AM

OK, here's a tricksy one ...
 
Head-line writer produces article for exiled king. :p

Morsul the Dark 06-10-2004 12:52 PM

Is this one Gandalf hehe
Head-Line writer someone who brings news
Gandalf was always bringing news
Produces article for exiled king
Gandalf crowned Aragorn
Gandalf

Nilpaurion Felagund 06-18-2004 02:00 AM

How about a clue to your cryptic clue?

Morsul the Dark 06-21-2004 02:48 PM

Ten day rule
 
it's been eleven days since the question has been asked so by my understanding i may ask one

"Son of God bent on seeing a mouse"

NightKnight 06-22-2004 07:56 AM

Actually, it's not your turn, since people have been guessing within the 10 days. I think the rule applies when there is no confirmation of an answer or no new question has been asked within 10 days.

The Saucepan Man 06-22-2004 09:36 AM

Miffed though I am that my question has been superseded (as I quite like it), bumping and asking for clues don't count to delay the 10 day rule. So I'm happy to let Morsul's question stand. I will simply repeat mine next time it's my turn. :D

NightKnight 06-22-2004 12:24 PM

Oh. I'm sorry then.


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