I think I can take this one. Dreams use common elements in our everyday lives as representations for subconcious element. (Ie, Nilp represents Chaos, Spm represents my dad, etc....) The fact that you have not dreamed of any downers makes it clear that you do not equate any downers with elements in your evryday life. You haven't yet become wholly involved in the Downs. You should stop with your silly "life" and join us completely.

Or, to take the opposing view, it means that Esty's conscious mind is so integrated into the Downs that it remains here even while she sleeps. The subconscious mind is free from the sites influence at this time, therefore doesn't dream of it.

I'd like to resurrect an old dream & have the famous Dr. Dream analyze it for er...Oddwen. And maybe me, just a little bit... ;)

You mean that I am a father/authority figure? :eek:

Darn, that's not the image I like to cultivate at all. At least, not here on the Downs. I have enough paternal responsibilities in RL! :D

I had an odd one last night...

I made a post in here about a dream that was about Werewolf. Someone with a screenname a lot like Encaitare (though it wasn't that exactly, and I'm not sure if it was supposed to even be Encaitare or what) posted a really short, somewhat rude comment right after. So I was a bit miffed, but then TORE posted saying how that was rather rude of her, so I felt better, and decided not to post anything in reply.

I wish I could remember all of TORE's post, because it went from saying "That was rather rude" to something about holding a sword that slew something or other and then you'd be able to walk a mile in my shoes. Or something. I remembered all the posts exactly when I woke up after the dream, but then I fell back asleep and the specifics got lost. :rolleyes:

Oddwen, that's... interesting. I have never, nor do I ever plan on, working at a hospital. But a friend of mine who is an author did once put a character in her story that was named Sarah and was a nurse, and she was supposedly modelled after me.

Ha!! Yes!! That just officialy made my day!! But you didn't have to be so harsh about it!! Sheez!!

Not exactly- you just sound like my dad. He argues/lectures in much the same way you do. He's also uber-logical, and even though I disagree with him on many points, I can't argue with his reasoning. It's rather frustrating. :rolleyes:

TORE, that's what is generally known in the business as a wish-fufillment dream. :p

Diamond18: Glad to be of help without...er, meaning to be. :confused:

I sound like a very logical person in your dream. :D

Wow, that actually makes perfect sense. :eek: :D

No really, as far as my dream of Oddwen, I can definitely think of people who treat me like that. Not that Oddwen treated me badly... in my dream I mean... oh, you know what I mean. Anyway, I've never thought of 'equating' people on the 'Downs with people in real life, but maybe I should look into it more.

Doctor Dream Speaks
 

You're obviously psychic. You see, I happen to know that Diamond18 is a buxom nurse who looks like Daffy Duck. And Lalwendë isLeroy Brown (makes you wonder about that marriage to davem, now don't it?)

But seriously: hospitals are places of healing and Diamond18 is bigger (in your estimation) than she claims to be. And she's funny in a, well, daffy way. All of which makes her a healer. I haven't the foggiest on Lal. Not enough info, deary.

Seems you're still processing DWWW XXI.

It means you aren't in need of processing complex inner stuff. Either that or you're a dull lady. ;) Although Roa & Kath do have something.... :D

A mixture of very good and very sad, actually. There's a similarity in spelling between Holland and Oddwen, in a weird way, but that's what dreams are about. Basically Unbalthawen is saying you're cool but not enough for me to meet you. That might explain the 'Un'. That's my best stab. TORE, I haven't the foggiest idea what it means about you. It most likely depends on what Oddwen associates you with.

Except for one possibility, which reading Diamond's dream brought to mind. "The Only Real Estel" = the only real hope. We all know that. So whenever you're in a BDer's dream, unless they know you REAL well, there's this "deepest hope of the heart" element in it. Which makes me think about how the only dream I ever had, had TORE in it too! :eek:

Ouch. Dr. Dream has a headache after all that. Unpaid, no less. Grrr.

Not Bad, Bad Leroy Brown? :eek:

Here's a weird dream...

I was back in the high school I attended in 11th grade. BW and SpM were two of the teachers. (They weren't fighting. ;)) I got sent by one of them (I forget which) to welcome guests to the school, who turned out to be Bethberry and Mithalwen. We went to the auditorium - inexplicably connected to the kitchen of a house I lived in 10 years ago that's actually a good 3000 miles from the HS - and listened to them give a lecture. Which I couldn't hear, and when I could hear it, I couldn't understand because it was in an unidentifiable foreign language. Other Downers (sorry, I can't remember who), were also in the audience and looked very intent on listening. At the end, everyone cheered.

I also had a dream that various moderators PMed me for being off topic and a general nuisance on the forums. I was threatened with being banned if I didn't behave myself. :eek:

How does being buxom and funny make me a healer? *scratches head*


Ha ha, yeah, my knight in shining armour. Er....


Well, it made perfect sense to me at the time. ;)

I think I figured out why it was Enca (or something like Enca's sn) who posted rudely in my dream. Her avatar says "Get lost." :p It's the only thing I can think of, since I can't think of any other reason why she'd play such a role. I have always loved that avatar, but apparently my subconcious finds it rude. :p

I dreamt about Formendacil.

My family were on holiday with him. We all had this suite in a hotel with a shared living room and separate rooms. When we got there, I think there was some kind of ancient riddle on parchment...

My family and I went out to socialise with the other hotel guests downstairs. I came up in the middle of the night, I forget why, to find three of the windows open. I can't remember whether Form was in or not, but I remember being certain that he'd somehow been transported to the 12th Century and had had amazing adventures. The air smelt different - it was heavy, almost magically scented. Furthermore, each of the three windows blew in different smelling air. I've forgotten one, I think one may have been an earthy scent, and the other was definitely rain.

These different air currents - each beautiful in its own right - were definitely related to Form's adventures in Medieval Europe. I closed each of the windows, having difficulty with the last, rainy one, before going down.

When I came up again with my family, heavy curtains were drawn across all the windows, shutting out all outside light. In fact, they may have been tapestries. I can't remember what Form was doing - I think he was shut in his room. But something magical, or Faerie, as our Dr. Dream would say, was definitely going on in our suite.

Unfortunately, I don't remember anything in detail, like what Form did, what he said, etc. It all comes down to wonderful magical feelings, really.



So... LMP? Influences: I've been reading about Medieval Europe. I've been thinking about Form a lot - I want to ask if he's sane or not.

Dr. Dream Speaks
 

I didn't see any request for interp from Celuien, so I'm not doing it without permission.

The nurse part, you nit. :p Being funny helps too. Buxom has to do with .... you don't want to know. :rolleyes:

TGWBS, I think your dream is almost completely a processing of your recent conversations with Formy and your desire for things mythical and beyond the mundane and/or present. That Formy goes and you don't, especially suggests the desire for something Formy has but you don't. You can sense it but you can't go there....

Well, anything I've posted here is fair game. ;) Analyze away, if it's not too boring a dream.

I think I've got it...overcome with jealousy over Nilp and Lhuna's adoption of Mith as their Downsian mother (funny, I've always considered her a sister!), with devastated tears I dreamt up a suitable alternative:

Diamond18 is my Mother Figure.

Nurse = motherly concern
Funny = love and ease
Buxom = umm...nourishing

And I think she's older than me...by a couple of months?

Move over, Dr. Dream. ;)

Er... can I be your big sister figure instead? You know, the older sis you look up to, who started developing before you, who always gets the boys....

(I'd better stop before other people start having strange dreams about me. I mean, tgwbs's signature is sure to warp the minds of everyone he comes across.)

So. I'm not sure if I should be admitting this in front of God and everyone, but I had a strange dream last night in which I was reading ATM2 and I came across a post by Eomer which was rather a bit close to being tawdry and, well, R-rated. In the post, Aimé visited a brothel. It was rather reminiscent of a sequence in Monty Python and the Holy Grail... the temptation of what's-his-face, the chaste knight. Only Aimé didn't take much tempting. I read it and thought, "Ha ha, Eomer's gonna get banned."

Eerily, tgwbs, I can think of something that perfectly fits this explanation...but I could be wrong.

I guess it's about time to say my dream. A few RL days into Kath's game I dreamt that it was reduced to a mere show of hands. Everyone was seated in a circle, with some on the floor and some on a sofa. "Who thinks Durelin (she's the only person mentioned that I can remember) is a werewolf, raise your hands," Kath said, and a few hands were raised. I saw nothing more - nothing about Night roles and wolf conversations and actual lynchings. For that last one, I don't think my mum (real mum, not Mith) would have allowed anyone to splatter blood all over our living room, anyway. :D

Any interpretation I come up with for this is just not safe. I've already deleted two! One was about loquacious libido and the other about cheeks. :rolleyes:

Most probably. :p

Actually, I think it was slightly influenced by being jealous that so many other people kept having BDer dreams and mine seemed to have stopped. They used to be something quite particular to me.

Maybe I'm merely jealous nobody is testing me for insanity.

Not sure I would be terribly keen either, my darling, fanged fur-baby .... the cream carpet has coped with its share of red wine and black coffee spillages over the years ... but blood is a real pain to get out. Much better to do the actual slaughtering in the bathroom... yes I have been watching too much Suburban Shootout..... :D

Oddone - don't be jealous... I'd love you to be my sister, my own one is quite hideous so I will happily trade her in for someone who actually likes me. I don't have many close relatives so I am really touched to have an expanding cyber family :D

Or Encyclopedia Brown? :p

Could I adopt you as an aunt, then? I'm not at all close to any of my real aunts and you're much more fun. How could I go wrong with an aunt with such a love of choral music and Lord Peter Wimsey? ;)


I had a terrible BD dream last night. In my dream, I logged on to the 'Downs and the background, instead of being black, was a sort of swirly dark blue and green. There was a big notice on the forum's main page saying that the 'Downs was permanently closed and would never reopen. I remember crying a lot in the dream. The eerie thing is that when I woke up, I had tears in my eyes and all over my face. The dream must have gotten to me so much that I actually cried while I was asleep. It was probably the second saddest dream I've ever had, after the dream I had where my brother died.


A few weeks ago, I dreamt that I got a text message from LMP. I was in a parking lot somewhere when it came, and I remember wondering how he had gotten my phone number. The message turned out to just be notifying me that LMP had PMed me.


I had this last dream several months ago. In it, Kitanna and Firefoot had decided to join my robotics team. It was right before we were supposed to leave for Chicago for our competition and someone had decided that it would make more sense for them to come to Madison and stay here the night before, rather than just going to Chicago (which would be a lot closer in RL), so I decided that they would say at my house the night before setting off for Chicago. I think there might have been more to the dream, but that's all I remember of it now.


Anyone is free to analyse these in any way they see fit!

Now that's just plain scary. Did Encyclopedia grow up to be bad? :p :D

Doctor Dream Speaks
 

Man, I had this all typed up then forgot to save it when I decided not to post it until getting permission. Maybe I can recall it all....

high school: formative and educational
BW & SPM: authority figures
welcoming: you represent education
Bethberry & Mithalwen: familiar & honored pair
auditorium connected to kitchen: educational connected to nourishing
lecture: (do you remember who the lecturer was? A BDer?) educational again
can't hear & can't understand language: Whoa! :eek: pretty obvious.
Other Downers hearing & understanding: also obvious
cheering: agreement and acceptance

Rather sad. Here's a place with all kinds of potential and you're even a model student there (sent to welcome). Educational and nourishing but stuff is being tuaght that you can't hear most of, and when you can, it's in a language you don't know. Missing out on something really worthwhile. Reminds me of the "missing categories in the mind" theory of knowledge: There are some Barrowdowns - perhaps Tolkienian - things that your dream-self is missing out on. Deep dream.

Wow. That was rather serious. :eek:

Easy: fear of not pleasing others

I think it was either Bethberry or Mith. They disappeared on the way to the auditorium.

Interesting. Education is a big, big thing in my family.

Maybe my subconscious is telling me to post on the Books forum more often. When I first joined, I was there frequently. Now I'm slacking outside of Werewolf and RPs. :rolleyes:

when I first read that post I wasn't paying attention, so I thought you called yourself a buxom healer. My reaction was "Woah, I don't think she'd be that kind of healer."

Think about it for a while and it'll click. Just wanted to share this in case anyone thought it would be funny.


This is more of a LOTR dream, but I dreamt that a bunch of infection forms from Halo were eating Sauron. It was rather funny watching him run around with his arms flailing in the dream.

Werewolf has taken over my subconsciousness.

I had a dream that it was my school's spring celebration and my class had to make plays in groups of four, the title being "werewolf". All I remeber about the show is that there were people dressed up as lions dancing and in the ww-plays the wws wore a black wolf-suits. They were actually nearly cute. Unfortunately I can't remember anything of the actual ww-playes, except that I got to be a tree in an other group's play...

And I thought I played a lot of video games! ;) I've never dreamed about them, not that I remember at least.

I'm gonna be a Dr. Dream Wanna-be and make something up here. :cool:

Let's see, two of your enemies, one from LotR and the other from Halo, are attacking each other.

Clearly, you have two problems that you should use against each other to overcome. Divide and Conquer type of thing, I guess. Any RL problems that might sync with this idea?

I think Sauron is pathetic, and in my dream he was running in circles with his arms waving in the air, screaming like a girl.

I once read something about Mordor vs. the Flood, and I pretty much imagined the result being a distorted Sauron inside a flood blob. I guess this is where the dream came from. The dream was funny nonetheless.

Dr. Dream Speaks
 

This needs no interpretation. I think I'd cry too. :(

You secretly wanted to hear from me. :D

I'm not sure what robotics means compared to anything else; you'd have to tell me more about it. I don't know how your Downs relationship with Kit & FF differs (or not) from others', but this seems pretty straightforward to me too: you wanted to connect with these two - - - bring them right into your own house - - - which in dreams is akin to bringing someone right inside yourself.

Oh Doctor Dream, I beseech you...

In my dream, I drove soberly for four companions very remarkably less so. Upon my discovery of a herd of deer in the middle of the road I was on, with headlights half-blinding me in my rear view, a bear arrived.

And then Tollin came. I almost think that Anguirel came out of the woods, but I cannot remember. I forgot most of the dream when I woke up.

Dr. Dream.....
 

You sobre, driving: you in control
four friends, drunk: aspects of you that are not in control of you
driving: you going through life
herd of deer: obstacle that poses threat to your life but is not intrinsically dangerous
half-blinding headlights from behind: something in the past that is obscuring your vision
bear: potential threat

Was the bear after the deer? You?

Dear Dr. Dream...
 

Now that you're around, could you explain me this very weird old dream of mine I saw in February...

The bear massacred the deer in front of me while my drunken companions expressed confusion at our lack of motion.

Well that's rather a critical detail to leave out!

*LMP glares @ Fea*

Now, the headlight in the rearview mirror could be blocked by merely putting a hand in the way. Did you do that? Whether you did or not, the situation from the past still is powerful enough to cause your perceptions of what's before you to be altered.

But the bear is seen massacring the deer regardless of the glare of headlights. The killer is animal, the victims are animal. What does the driver think of this?

Here's the important thing: whatever terrible thing that is going on, represented by the deer massacre, has caused your life (you driving the car) to stop moving forward. There's confusion, but it's subdued. Enough. That's all I can come up with. Have fun with it.

*************

room = self
downs = pleasure
cleaning = responsibility
clean + room = taking care of yourself
Paavo = someone else takes care of you for you
30 = ?

How do you see paavo?
How do you see Ang?

Presumably that most of the dream actually happened the night before I dreamt it is also an important fact, then? :rolleyes: ;)

I was merely amused that Tollin made a cameo.

In RL I flicked the rear view over a bit so that I couldn't see behind me with it, but I also wasn't blinded. In the dream, I did nothing.

This driver gets vaguely queasy at the thought of violence, especially toward anyone or anything unable to help itself, and does not tolerate it in her presence.

Interesting what the interpretation of a mostly literal situation is. :)

Maybe your dream is telling you that violent death is natural and you can't move forward until you eat meat. ;) :p

So did you have a dream at all, or were you just messing with me? It doesn't matter since dream interpretation is just a bunch of playing around anyway.

I did drive for four guys Saturday night. I did get glare blinded. The rest occured only in the dream I had when I finally got home.

My first Barrow-Downs dream in a long time
 

I just dream that I was back in a hostel in Rio where I was sitting at a desk. On this desk I find a note to me from Gothmog, this note looks just like those witch you get when you buy internet time. It has some big capital letter (normally a code) and some smaller, normal ones right beneath them (normally saying how much time you have bought). This time however it says that I have been banned from the BD for using obscene language! It even have 21 examples of me doing so. I really don't know how there can be so much writing in just to small lines. . . .

Then I remember beeing verry ubset, not beeing told this before.