Well Iquite like it.. and it was funny that I was suspected of being just about everything bad and everyone's lover :rolleyes: when it wasn't annoying...

You mean on not knowing the roles? Well, yes, it is fun, but also... how should I... psycho, to be honest. And sometimes I think it's better to know the roles, you feel more sure. To you, as players who play their 50th game, it might feel as a breath of new, fresh air in the line of "mundane" games, but for someone like me (I don't know how Brinniel&other newbies feel about it) I'd certainly preserve some games where it is known, not to confuse the newcomers too much...

Though yes, it's a good idea. Had I been the mod, I'd certainly choose not to introduce the roles :p For the mod, it must be obviously great fun. And if there are really many roles, not only as here we had them, but as in the original idea Menel had, it would be seriously gigantic fun. "You lynched your Batman!" "We lynched our what?" :D

I like the "psycho" side of things. You're right, not all games should have role naivety, because it might scare of new players. But for those that do... there's so much potential for Mods creating havoc:

• Multiple Seers
• Multiple Lovers
• False Seers
• Separate Werewolf groups
• Make everybody a wolf in separate groups, last group alive wins.
• Multiple Rangers/Hunters
• Making everybody gifted.
• No gifteds.
• Make every villager a cobbler.
• Shirriffs.
• False Shirriffs??

Not to mention new roles just to muck people about. :D

I don't know if it's not off-topic to start about it on this thread, but since you mentioned this, I wanted only to ask: what is a "false Seer"? It's a person who is told by the Mod he is a Seer and he is not, or what? :cool:

S/he's someone who is told to be a Seer and s/he will then send her/his dreams to the mod. Depending on the mod's decision the "answers" the false seer gets are either wrong eveytime or wrong a part of the time...

Not knowing the roles was great fun but I wouldn't wish to play in that way everytime.

Diamond (I think?) had a highly paranoic game a year ago (about) where we were not told the roles of those killed eg. we knew the roles there were in the beginning but didn't know which were being killed during the game...

Yes and they can dream too, but they don't get it right or don't get it right for certain.

Sorry to spoil your joy :p, but I really wasn't desperate to get rid of you. Noggie called me that night and said he could ask Menel if I could vote via Nogrod. I was not especially keen on that - since I hadn't a very good idea what was going on in the late hours nor had I thought too much about it after giving up (with the library computers) - but I agreed. (Nogrod wanted me to vote because he said people had difficulties with froming a picture about me since I'm so absent...)

edit: obviously xed with Noggie

Ah, good memories ... :p ;)

Maybe for you.
Honk.
Brute.

...four months later:

Thank you, Menel, for a very memorable game!