it is a tomb in a tomb

Balin's Tomb in Moria?

yes

We have this very strange news:
 

Unviere-heavens-stars stars= elin

blue wtaers reversed Nile=Elin

Look up ward at the sky

Elin

Sorry, no.
 

Try again. ;)

Forochel

it was my original answer but Elin made more sense

Nyet.
 

The straight clue is "waters". Hope that helps.

hmmm waters
plural?

i could assume it is a river....

north....for...forn....forod...formen

...elub...nuhl...niul...enuil...

but what is universe...Gulf of Lune lune=lunar

forlond lhun sounds like lune

so Forlond

Wrong.

aeron

Ocean on is kind of a high direction
Universe is great great ocean
and reversed...um...Dont know...

Still wrong.
 

Although some parts are eerily close.

which parts I wonder...

Andrast (on-drost)
An sounds like on and thaat needs to be in front

Nope.
 

Colder.

colder Ill wager my next few guesses are warm places I dont know the geography well so Im slinking around picking words that seem to fit

Ringwil?

No, not "colder" colder.
 

I meant "colder" further away from the true answer.

Not Ringwil. Two words. Take the clue step by step, and you'll get it.

Eithel Serion

Sorry.
 

Still not there.

Eithel Ivren?

Nein!
 

Use wordplay on the cryptic clue.

And . . . because I'm http://www.geocities.com/louis_martian/smilies/evil.gif . . .

nein? deustch solsst ich in deautsch this ting lesen?(cant spell in german sorry)

but was that a clue?

and I need an explanation well you wont be hearing from mer for a bit

Morsul:
 

Universe reversed
blue
waters
after
high
direction.

Bold - cryptic elements
Italics - position
Normal - straight clue

That should help. ;)

universe reversed-bigbang-nothingsness-abyss
blue-sad


passed over away- over= passed away= Dead
before
abyss sad oceans= marshes

dead marshes?

Still wrong.
 

If you check your previous posts, you'll see a correct version of universe reversed. ;)

aelin-uial?

by looking at the post that was eerily close
then this had two word
an ia(abyss) is in the second part

Very close.
 

But still no.

Universe reversed is after high direction. Think about that . . . :smokin:

I don't know thats all I could find "starts having mental breakdown" :eek: :rolleyes: :mad:

Branda-nin

an=on
da=Down away
nin=nil(nothing)-l+n

Colder.
 

You were on the right track on universe reversed on your previous answer.

ia is right?

ok high direction
up north elevate......elevate a way

Ethir Anduin

I dont have an explanation
Anduin is close to my other guess Ethir could be a high diretion I have no idea...just let it be right..... :(

Nyet!
 

High and direction are separate, remember?

Oh, and "ia" is wrong. Sorry. :o

so im basicly back to square one

high

upaway
overaway
elevatedaway

Henneth annun

nun=none=nothing=universe reversed

hen not sure...

neth=north=direction

Hehe!
 

I'm really evil, ain't I?

Your perception of universe reversed is incorrect. It is:

Universe
reversed

Use the aforementioned legend. ;)

ok reversed as a position? oh wait hmm

Grand
Great
Cosmos
heaven....menel lenem....

nen hithoelit
a lake is above something
it has two words

..........and I am utterly wrong right

Mark my words when I get this because I will eventually the next one will be a cryptic clue that cannot be solved! :mad: :p :cool:

You're correct . . .
 

. . . in assuming that you're wrong. :p

You'll have to get this first. ;) :p

nen Girith

Dah Big
 

En - Oh!

Sorry, Morsul.

Try using English -> Elvish direct; no synonyms.

jeez Id get to post mine quicker with the ten day rule

universe doesnt translate into elvish
closest thing is heaven menel

Lenem does not have a meaning nor is it anywhere to be found

so I am utterly stumped...

I admit defeat I have run out of ideas...

Universe - untranslatable?
 

Morsul, check your Ainulindalë. ;)

its the song of creation....

alen-uial is the only A that has two words and is about water...

It doesn't have to begin in "A".
 

Universe reversed is after high direction, remember? ;)