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Sophia the Thunder Mistress 05-01-2003 09:44 PM

[img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Can't get anything past you...

Lindolirian 05-02-2003 03:30 PM

Forweg-> Fundin

Sophia the Thunder Mistress 05-02-2003 03:34 PM

Forweg-> Turin-> Tuor-> Elrond-> Balin-> Fundin

Is that too many steps?

Lindolirian 05-02-2003 03:35 PM

Nope, five steps; six people, just below the max. Good job!

Sophia the Thunder Mistress 05-03-2003 01:39 AM

Thanks, that was a nasssty poser. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Ar-Pharazon -> Mahtan

The Saucepan Man 05-03-2003 10:28 AM

Are we allowed to use Sauron and Morgoth?

If so:

Ar-Pharazon -> Sauron -> Morgoth -> Feanor -> Mahtan

I am assuming that Morgoth and Feanor were acquanited after Morgoth (Melkor) had been pardoned by Manwe. That is the impression that I have. But, if not:

Ar-Pharazon -> Sauron -> Morgoth -> Finwe -> Feanor -> Mahtan

Sophia the Thunder Mistress 05-03-2003 10:33 AM

Either of those are quite acceptable, I think...

(My solution was Ar-Pharazon-> Sauron-> Celebrimbor-> Curufin-> Nerdanel-> Mahtan, so I suppose Sauron & Morgoth are legitimate [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img])

Sophia

The Saucepan Man 05-06-2003 07:40 AM

OK, here's another:

Eowyn -> Ecthelion I

Not using Gandalf.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress 05-06-2003 03:15 PM

Eowyn->Aragorn->Saruman->Beren->Egalmoth->EcthelionI

The Saucepan Man 05-06-2003 05:29 PM

Was there ever any interaction between Aragorn and Saruman in LotR? I am not sure that Aragorn spoke when he accompanied Gandalf and Theoden to parley with Saruman at Orthanc.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress 05-06-2003 05:48 PM

My books are packed away as I'm moving out of the dorms tomorrow, but if it doesn't work the way I have it, you can always replace Aragorn with Grima and it all works... Eowyn->Grima->Saruman->Beren->Egalmoth->Ecthelion I

Sophia

The Saucepan Man 05-06-2003 06:19 PM

That's the one I had in mind, Sophia. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Good luck with the move!

Sophia the Thunder Mistress 05-06-2003 08:19 PM

Silmarien-> Gil-Galad

The Saucepan Man 05-07-2003 06:09 PM

Silmarien-> Tar-Meneldur-> Tar-Aldarion-> Gil-Galad

Sophia the Thunder Mistress 05-10-2003 10:28 AM

Splendid

The Saucepan Man 05-12-2003 06:42 PM

Thank you, Sophia.

Tar-Aldarion -> Fengel

Sophia the Thunder Mistress 05-12-2003 08:37 PM

I'll take a go at it...

Aldarion-> Gil-Galad-> Elrond-> Saruman-> Thengel-> Fengel...???

I don't really know if there was interaction between Saruman and Thengel, but I would think there was, since it was during Thengel's reign that Saruman pronounced himself Lord of Isengard and Theoden refers to Saruman's friendship with Rohan in LotR.

Sophia [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] (who is glad to be back)

The Saucepan Man 05-12-2003 09:04 PM

Welcome back, Sophia. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Hmm, you may be right about the connection between Saruman and Thengel, but there is a much less speculative connection ...

Sophia the Thunder Mistress 05-15-2003 07:16 PM

Alright then, I have to take it in an extra step though (I think that's allowable? Six steps, seven people??).

Aldarion-> Gil-Galad-> Elrond-> Merry-> Theoden-> Fengel

Sophia

The Saucepan Man 05-15-2003 07:45 PM

Theoden never knew his grandfather. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

You had it almost right before - just replace Saruman with someone else ...

Sophia the Thunder Mistress 05-15-2003 07:50 PM

Drat you Saucepansss [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] why must it be so blasted complicated! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] you mean Grandfather -> Grandson isn't close enough to be covered by the relatives clause? *sighs* alright then.

Aldarion-> Gil-Galad-> Elrond-> Gandalf-> Fengel
?

The Saucepan Man 05-15-2003 07:55 PM

Quote:

When tracing from one name to another there must have been interaction or implied interaction in the novels between the two charcters. Also, a link can me made between names if the two characters are immediately related to each other (child, parent, spouse).
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Quote:

Try not to use Gandalf, Saruman,or Sauron if it can be helped. These people have a link to just about everybody.
Oops! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] I used Sauron before. But none of these three are in this one. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

The Saucepan Man 05-19-2003 07:13 PM

Aldarion -> Gil-Galad -> Elrond -> ? -> Thengel -> Fengel

Who is the missing link?

Eruanna 05-20-2003 04:37 PM

Is the missing link Aragorn? He knew Elrond of course, but he had served Thengel in Rohan before he came to Gondor (as Thorongil)

The Saucepan Man 05-20-2003 05:38 PM

Indeed he did, Eruanna. Aragorn is the missing link (Homus Dunedainus [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] ), so you are correct. Well done. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Eruanna 05-25-2003 11:42 AM

This one is probably too easy...

Narvi to Bungo Baggins, in 6 or less steps.

Sophia the Thunder Mistress 05-25-2003 12:40 PM

Narvi-> Celebrimbor-> Curufin-> Maglor-> Elrond-> Bilbo-> Bungo.

There are seven people, but only six steps there.

Sophia

Eruanna 05-25-2003 12:45 PM

Can you substitute Curufin and Maglor with one person? (Trying to get my own back for Odd item out, here [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img] )

Sophia the Thunder Mistress 05-25-2003 02:34 PM

Narvi->Celebrimbor->Galadriel? (some of the stories say she dwelt for a time in Eregion)-> Elrond-> Bilbo-> Bungo.

Eruanna 05-25-2003 03:54 PM

That is almost the same as I was thinking. I had Narvi > Celebrimbor > Galadriel > Frodo > Bilbo > Bungo.
From UT, History of Galadriel and Celeborn:
Quote:

Galadriel and Celeborn had in their company a Noldorin craftsman named Celebrimbor.
Your go.
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[ May 25, 2003: Message edited by: Eruanna ]

Sophia the Thunder Mistress 05-25-2003 04:16 PM

Alright, next one is:

Elrohir -> Brand NOT using any of Thorin's company, including Bilbo or Gandalf.

Sophia

Eruanna 05-25-2003 04:47 PM

I think this works:

Brand > Bain > Bard the Bowman > Thranduil > Legolas > Elrond > Elrohir

Sophia the Thunder Mistress 05-25-2003 05:12 PM

Exactly how I had it, although you can go straight from Legolas to Elrohir, as they were both members of the Grey Company... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Your go!

Eruanna 05-26-2003 08:53 AM

I'd forgotten the Grey Company connection!

Here's another: Galathil to Ghân-buri-Ghân. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Lindolirian 05-28-2003 09:22 AM

Galathil-> Celeborn-> Merry-> Eomer*-> Ghân-buri-Ghân
*Just in case... [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Eruanna 05-28-2003 02:06 PM

Terrific [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Lindolirian 05-28-2003 03:23 PM

Balan-> Lothíriel

Sophia the Thunder Mistress 05-28-2003 07:31 PM

Balan (Beor)-> Finrod-> Galadriel-> Eomer-> Lothiriel

Lindolirian 05-28-2003 08:22 PM

Aye, that be it! Proceed!

Sophia the Thunder Mistress 05-30-2003 05:41 PM

Faelivrin-> Ivorwen


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