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alonariel 02-09-2010 08:32 PM

Vote Count

Brinn:
Izzy
Zil
Form

Steve:
Zil
Izzy
Form
Fea

Wilwa:
Zil
Fea
Form
Nerwen

Nerwen:
Zil
Brinn

Nog:
Zil
Form
Izzy
Rune

Form:
Zil
Fea
Izzy
Nerwen

Lottie:
Nerwen
Fea

* * *

Izzy - 4
Zil - 6
Form - 4
Fea - 4
Nerwen - 3
Brinn - 1
Lottie - 0
Nog - 0
Rune - 1
Steve - 0
Wilwa - 0

satansaloser2005 02-09-2010 08:32 PM

Nog, I love you. Just so's you know.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Nog
Take care you don't leave four unvoted persons as then we have no lynch. (when will the numbers change Sally?)


Now. Nog is down two points per Simon.

Loslote 02-09-2010 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005 (Post 623474)
Nog, I love you. Just so's you know.

Now. Nog is down two points per Simon.

Wait - down two points? I forgot that was allowed...so he's got negative votes?

wilwarin538 02-09-2010 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005 (Post 623469)
Tic tac toe?

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_|X|_
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satansaloser2005 02-09-2010 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loslote (Post 623475)
Wait - down two points? I forgot that was allowed...so he's got negative votes?

Yup.



Wilwa, top right corner. ^_^

Isabellkya 02-09-2010 08:34 PM

I'm not voting for Loslote, and I doubt I will vote for Wilwa

If you happen to make it toMorrow Loslote. Would be nice if you addressed some more questions posed to you. As to how people have moved on your list, and why you trust people. Fallen in a vat of oil lately?


X'd since Sally's #480.

Brinniel 02-09-2010 08:35 PM

Hmm...wilwa's last post doesn't sit with me too well. Hasn't she made a similar defense as a wolf before? Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong person. But nevertheless, it's ringing my alarm bells. Her post just doesn't feel genuine to me.

++Rune

No idea what his role might be, but he hasn't really gotten a chance to play toDay and for now, I'd rather hear more from him than see him go.

EDIT: By last post, I mean #473. Major x-posting here.

Loslote 02-09-2010 08:35 PM

Sorry. Will run back and find those questions.

EDIT: xed with Brinn

Feanor of the Peredhil 02-09-2010 08:36 PM

++Steve
++Wilwa


Izzy
- 4
Zil - 6
Form - 4
Fea - 4
Nerwen - 3
Brinn - 1
Lottie - 0
Nog - -2
Rune - 2
Steve - 1
Wilwa - 1

Nerwen 02-09-2010 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nogrod (Post 623450)
Supposing I'd be a wolf (and supposing then also that Lottie would be my mate).

I'd probably have posted when I got online around 10PM (my time), said I was in a hurry, noted some "suspicious things"... then making a few nice words of you, Fea, Brinn, Izzy, Inzil etc... (to gain enough good will even if you disagreed with my negligence of talking about Lottie)... Then I'd have said it's just too late and I need to go - voting for confidence to those whom I thought were the leaders of the popular opinion. And I would be sleeping already.

Or I could have made a fervent defence of Lottie just for the sport of it.

Or you'd have tried to cut ties with her, but then perhaps tried to sow suspicion about as many other people as you could– oh, wait, you just did.:rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nogrod (Post 623450)
I've played alone as a wolf against a whole village once and that was enough for me - and there was no seer left there. I managed a few Days but it was hopeless and doomed.

Mmmn. I agree it wouldn't be fun. My point is that, supposing you were a wolf and Lottie– or, for that matter, Wilwa– your comrade, you'd know it still wasn't worth the risk of trying to save her.

Besides, there are a number of people in this village right now who have managed to win as lone wolves, sometimes with gifteds still around. And seers can be eaten at Night.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nogrod (Post 623450)
And anyway: haven't I been controversial enough for the seer to check me? Would I do that as a wolf? That would be a death sentence.

Not necessarily– but anyway I don't recall you were "controversial" at all most of this game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nogrod (Post 623450)
Just out of curiosity: were you a wolf Nerwen, how would you have played differently? ;)

Why, looking for tips? ;)

EDIT:X'd with vast hordes.

Isabellkya 02-09-2010 08:37 PM

So Nog will be lynched, unless multiple people vote for him?


X'd with Nerwen.

wilwarin538 02-09-2010 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loslote (Post 623471)
1. What? I was the first one to even mention a Wilwa-suspicion, and now I'm hoppin on a bandwaggon?

2. Nice excuse. You've used it before. Are you really going to stick with meta-reasoning as your excuse?

3. That jumps out at me as a "oh I'm innocent don't lynch me" type statement. Don't tell us, show us.

EDIT: xed since Wilwa

1. Your first post you said I looked bad but then said you still felt I was innocent and wanted to trust me.
2. I've used it before this game cause that is the reason, I'm not gonna just make one up, and since that's all people seem to have on me of course I'll defend it.
3. Show you? How exactly do you want me to do that?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brinniel (Post 623479)
Hmm...wilwa's last post doesn't sit with me too well. Hasn't she made a similar defense as a wolf before? Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong person. But nevertheless, it's ringing my alarm bells. Her post just doesn't feel genuine to me.

Probably, haven't been a wolf in a rediculously long time (possibly not even since Sally's last game).


X|_|O
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(Nog, I fixed the quote mistake, sorry about that)

Loslote 02-09-2010 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 623435)
Okay. After Form's explanation toDay I think we can treat him and Zil as semi-known innocents, unless some really spectacular revelation occurs.

Or, by extension, Nogrod (doesn't look too good to me in his own right, either).

I actually thought Lottie's Nienna-the-pseudo-Seer was a reasonable sort of theory at the time... but after the curious logical gymnastics that she used in her analysis of Glirdan, in which Form came out "pretty bad" for some reason, yet Nogrod remained pure as the driven snow... well.

Of course, if they are indeed packmates, Nogrod's now busy throwing Lottie under the bus, but what does that prove?

Form came out "semi-bad" for the same reason I noticed Wilwa, but nothing else looks bad. In fact, mostly he looks absolutely innocent, so I focused on Wilwa and moved Form back to "probably innocent".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inziladun (Post 623383)
Well, you're right in that the flip-flop came after she looked at Glirdan, but she doesn't explain in that analysis why Form looks bad again.

No, he doesn't get a free pass, even though I'm leaning toward thinking him more innocent than not. It's still odd that Nog and Rune were so quick to vote for him after the narrative in which he killed Pitch, though.

See above. Was that all, Izzy?

EDIT: xed since my last

satansaloser2005 02-09-2010 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilwarin538 (Post 623484)
O|_|X
_|X|_
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I said top right you silly thing. Unless I'm X's?

wilwarin538 02-09-2010 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005 (Post 623486)
I said top right you silly thing. Unless I'm X's?

haha, sorry I noticed it and fixed it, tic tac fail

satansaloser2005 02-09-2010 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilwarin538 (Post 623487)
haha, sorry I noticed it and fixed it, tic tac fail

Are you saying my breath smells? Watch it, little miss.


Bottom right, of course.

Loslote 02-09-2010 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilwarin538 (Post 623484)
1. Your first post you said I looked bad but then said you still felt I was innocent and wanted to trust me.
2. I've used it before this game cause that is the reason, I'm not gonna just make one up, and since that's all people seem to have on me of course I'll defend it.
3. Show you? How exactly do you want me to do that?

Probably, haven't been a wolf in a rediculously long time (possibly not even since Sally's last game).

1. No, I said I didn't want to suspect you but I did.

2. Okay, but...meta? Seriously?

3. Act innocent. Don't make us suspect you. Acting suspicious and then saying "no, no! I'm innocent!" is not going to cut it.

Pre-edit: xed since my last.

wilwarin538 02-09-2010 08:46 PM

X|_|O
_|X|X
_|_|O

I fail at this game...

and I'm sure your breath smells lovely my dear Moddess :Merisu:

satansaloser2005 02-09-2010 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilwarin538 (Post 623490)
X|_|O
_|X|X
_|_|O

I fail at this game...

and I'm sure your breath smells lovely my dear Moddess :Merisu:

Good answer, my minion.


Middle left. We're gonna have a draw. :(

Rune Son of Bjarne 02-09-2010 08:48 PM

I am here. . . sorry sorry sorry for not being here, things have been weird´today. I don't have time to read through everything. . . so if anybody wan't to give me some highlights on todays action it would be nice!

Anyways I will return shortly with a post.

Isabellkya 02-09-2010 08:48 PM

I don't like how it looks like Loslote is just going to semi-skate through toDay.
I feel like something is going on, and I'm just not getting it.
Plgh.

++Nerwen
++Inziladun



X'd with everything after #496.

wilwarin538 02-09-2010 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loslote (Post 623489)
1. No, I said I didn't want to suspect you but I did.

2. Okay, but...meta? Seriously?

3. Act innocent. Don't make us suspect you. Acting suspicious and then saying "no, no! I'm innocent!" is not going to cut it.

Pre-edit: xed since my last.

Like no one's ever used Meta before. It's not like I'm saying "Oh him and I talked on the phone and he seemed to sound innocent", that would be unfair...I'm sure people who don't even know each other in RL have tried to trust people they usually suspect in games. I don't really see it as anything unusual. Not really different then you saying Day 1 that Pitch wasn't acting agreeable, so he wasn't a wolf. I see that as Meta as well.

Me acting innocent seems to always be what gets me suspicion.

wilwarin538 02-09-2010 08:50 PM

X|_|O
O|X|X
_|X|O

Yes, I think we will, unless you let an unpopular girl win? :Merisu:

Loslote 02-09-2010 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilwarin538 (Post 623494)
Like no one's ever used Meta before. It's not like I'm saying "Oh him and I talked on the phone and he seemed to sound innocent", that would be unfair...I'm sure people who don't even know each other in RL have tried to trust people they usually suspect in games. I don't really see it as anything unusual. Not really different then you saying Day 1 that Pitch wasn't acting agreeable, so he wasn't a wolf. I see that as Meta as well.

Me acting innocent seems to always be what gets me suspicion.

Okay, on Day 1. But by Day 2 you should have a better feel for someone! :rolleyes:

EDIT: xed with Miss Tic

satansaloser2005 02-09-2010 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilwarin538 (Post 623495)
X|_|O
O|X|X
_|X|O

Yes, I think we will, unless you let an unpopular girl win? :Merisu:


Top middle. Not a chance, my love.

alonariel 02-09-2010 08:52 PM

Izzy - 4
Zil - 7
Form - 4
Fea - 4
Nerwen - 4
Brinn - 1
Lottie - 0
Nog - -2
Rune - 2
Steve - 1
Wilwa - 1

Isabellkya 02-09-2010 08:54 PM

It seems awfully quiet for the last handful of minutes.

Inziladun 02-09-2010 08:54 PM

Getting back later than I'd planned and having to very quickly skim through.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil (Post 623447)
So... I have a theory.

As to why nobody died last night.

Cursed villager.

I think we might have another bad guy.

:(

Well, doesn't look as if a confirmation or denial of that from our Moddess is forthcoming. I see no way of knowing the truth of the matter just now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerwen (Post 623449)
Failing a sudden gifted reveal or something, I don't think I'll be voting for Lottie, Nog or Wilwa. The odds that no member of that trio is a wolf don't look good to me.

I honestly am nervous suspecting Lottie because my read of her has been terrible in the past. I do think she looks worse than the other two there.

I found something from Glirdan that might reflect positively on Steve and Nerwen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glirdan (Post 623177)
Now on to Nog's list of last minute votes for Izzy at the end of the Day.

It is highly unlikely that there is no Wolf in that group, and out of all four, Eonwe and Nerwen stand out the most for their lack of reasoning. Nerwen's vote was the last of the Day and the deciding vote on who was to be lynched. Yet Eonwe voted with a mere explanation of "he's more suspicious." Care to explain why you thought so?

Certainly wolf-on-wolf is not out of the question there, but it seems unwarranted and reckless to me, if that's what it was.

++Nerwen- for that and my reasons from before.

++Brinn- Her words before DL yesterDay, which is mostly why I wanted to save her, make me believe she's probably innocent.

Loslote 02-09-2010 08:54 PM

*sigh* Might as well...

++Brinn
++Form

EDIT: xed with Izzy and Zil

Rune Son of Bjarne 02-09-2010 08:54 PM


++Lottie
++Brinn
++Steve
++Wilwa


This is called devine intervention. . .explanation will follow tomorrow. . .hopefully

wilwarin538 02-09-2010 08:55 PM

X|O|O
O|X|X
X|X|O

I have more groups of 2 beside each other then you do, so I think I win. :p


Quote:

Okay, on Day 1. But by Day 2 you should have a better feel for someone!:rolleyes:
Well, I'll just have to keep that in mind for the future then. *makes note in notebook: no meta after Day 1*. :rolleyes:

Nerwen 02-09-2010 08:55 PM

Okay, then.

++Rune

And one last... let me see...

EDIT:x'd with everyone again.

alonariel 02-09-2010 08:56 PM

Izzy - 4
Zil - 7
Form - 5
Fea - 4
Nerwen - 5
Brinn - 4
Lottie - 1
Nog - -2
Rune - 3
Steve - 2
Wilwa - 2

satansaloser2005 02-09-2010 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilwarin538 (Post 623504)
X|O|O
O|X|X
X|X|O

I have more groups of 2 beside each other then you do, so I think I win. :p




Well, I'll just have to keep that in mind for the future then. *makes note in notebook: no meta after Day 1*. :rolleyes:

I can smite you with an epic smite. Just sayin'. Who wins again? :Merisu:

Nerwen 02-09-2010 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne (Post 623503)
This is called devine intervention. . .explanation will follow tomorrow. . .hopefully

:confused:

wilwarin538 02-09-2010 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005 (Post 623507)
I can smite you with an epic smite. Just sayin'. Who wins again? :Merisu:

Both of us, cause we are so wonderful *snuggles* :Merisu:

Loslote 02-09-2010 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilwarin538 (Post 623504)
Well, I'll just have to keep that in mind for the future then. *makes note in notebook: no meta after Day 1*. :rolleyes:

Hey, that's a good rule of thumb. Hakon, for example, has been lynched more times than I can count for using meta after Day 1...not that that has ever stopped him, so possibly not the best example.

EDIT: xed with many and have to run.

satansaloser2005 02-09-2010 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne (Post 623503)

++Lottie
++Brinn
++Steve
++Wilwa


This is called devine intervention. . .explanation will follow tomorrow. . .hopefully


Grape or tomato?

Isabellkya 02-09-2010 08:59 PM

Do I have to use my last two votes?
Ihoneslty don't know whom to vote for?

Feanor of the Peredhil 02-09-2010 08:59 PM

++Nerwen
++Zil


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